From rGeoffrey at PlatypiVentures.com  Sun Jun  5 07:15:46 2005
From: rGeoffrey at PlatypiVentures.com (R. Geoffrey Avery)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:15:46 -0400
Subject: [yapc] See the Argonauts two days before YAPC
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050604140659.02f48ec0@mail.PlatypiVentures.com>

There is still time to sign up to go to see the Toronto Argonauts on 
Saturday before YAPC 
(http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?TorontoArgonauts).  And as an added 
bonus we will be in the right place to see the Greek entry in the Symphony 
of Fire international fireworks competition 
(http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?SymphonyOfFire).

If you want to join us for this pre conference event please let me know 
soon as it is about time to buy the tickets.

- Geoff

PS.  There are still lightning talks available 
(http://www.justanotherperlhacker.org/lightning/) for Toronto, Portland, 
and Braga.



From drew at drewtaylor.com  Mon Jun  6 07:47:15 2005
From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:47:15 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Looking for roommate
Message-ID: <36acc6652b5c2d65a809797d2e122e2b@drewtaylor.com>

Hi all,
I've made my reservations at 89 Chestnut for a single, but I'm 
wondering if anyone would like a roommate to help split the cost. If 
anyone is interested, please let me know. Nonsmokers please. :-)

Drew


From rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org  Mon Jun  6 19:56:12 2005
From: rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:56:12 -0400
Subject: [yapc]  Looking for roommate
Message-ID: <20050607025610.GA676@manxome.org>


...I'm in the same boat as Drew, except that I actually reserved a
double.  (My prospective roommate had to withdraw.)

Drew, let me know if you want to cancel your reservation and split mine.
Alternately, other non-psychotic non-smokers are welcome to let me know
if you want to split the rom.

-- 
rjbs
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From uri at stemsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 20:33:14 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:33:14 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Looking for roommate
In-Reply-To: <20050607025610.GA676@manxome.org> (Ricardo SIGNES's message of
	"Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:56:12 -0400")
References: <20050607025610.GA676@manxome.org>
Message-ID: <x7wtp66dtx.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "RS" == Ricardo SIGNES <rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org> writes:

  RS> if you want to split the rom.

how much rom do you have? 1GB? enough to share?

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 21:02:41 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:02:41 -0400
Subject: [yapc] socialist news
Message-ID: <x764wq6cgu.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


hi all yapc bound folks,

i am here to report on the lastest news of socialist activities at
yapc. these are beyond the cruise/dinner/auction and the fun sounding
scavenger hunt!

we are working on an arrival dinner on sunday night, june 26. it looks
like it will be a chinese place in chinatown which is near the
hotel. check out this kiwki page for more info:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner

be sure to select your choice of the two places at:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?ArrivalChoice

and don't forget to rsvp at:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?ArrivalRSVP

we do need accurate head counts so we can make a proper
reservation. both places can host over 100 people so get in on the fun!

also i have been working on a movie night but having no luck in booking
a theater. but we can just do impromptu groups as they happen. check out
the local theater info at:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?MovieNight

so you are hereby ordered to have more fun at yapc::toronto. email the
list with your ideas about movies, dinner and such.

we will probably be doing various lunch/dinner trips to chinatown as i
have heard about some good places. dim sum for lunch anyone? more to
follow here and on the kwiki.

Uri (Exalted YAPC Socialist Czar)

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Search or Offer Perl Jobs  ----------------------------  http://jobs.perl.org

From autarch at urth.org  Mon Jun  6 21:14:42 2005
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:14:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] VegFoodBOF
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0506062314040.6542@urth.org>

I'll be organizing this.

Sign up here: http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?VegFoodBOF

The time will probably depend on other events.  I can safely say not 
Tuesday night (cruise night).  Other than that, it's up in the air.


-dave

/*===================================================
VegGuide.Org                        www.BookIRead.com
Your guide to all that's veg.       My book blog
===================================================*/

From kcivey at cpcug.org  Mon Jun  6 21:22:11 2005
From: kcivey at cpcug.org (Keith Ivey)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:22:11 -0400
Subject: [yapc] socialist news
In-Reply-To: <x764wq6cgu.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x764wq6cgu.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <42A520F3.1050107@cpcug.org>

Uri Guttman wrote:

> check out this kiwki page for more info:

"Kiwki"?  A special Kwiki variant for gnat, perhaps?

-- 
Keith C. Ivey <kcivey at cpcug.org>
Washington, DC

From drew at drewtaylor.com  Mon Jun  6 22:17:55 2005
From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:17:55 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Looking for roommate
In-Reply-To: <20050607025610.GA676@manxome.org>
References: <20050607025610.GA676@manxome.org>
Message-ID: <faab20783cc2409ed0ef75f004d91767@drewtaylor.com>

On Jun 6, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
>
> ...I'm in the same boat as Drew, except that I actually reserved a
> double.  (My prospective roommate had to withdraw.)

Thanks for the offer, but I found a roommate already.

> Alternately, other non-psychotic non-smokers are welcome to let me know
> if you want to split the rom.

I'm going on faith that he's non-psychotic too. :-)

Drew


From phil at five-lawrences.com  Tue Jun  7 10:38:21 2005
From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:38:21 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Sunday ride from Philly area?
Message-ID: <42A5DB8D.1020506@five-lawrences.com>

I live in the Philly area (Bethlehem, PA, actually).  Is anyone passing 
through the region with a spare seat on their way to YAPC?  I can meet 
you wherever is convenient.

Thanks,
Phil

From drew at drewtaylor.com  Tue Jun  7 13:07:16 2005
From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:07:16 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Note taking during the conference
Message-ID: <b82631f269523baa2942750cff1c58db@drewtaylor.com>

Now that I have a powerbook and have been introduced to the wonders of 
SubEthaEdit & the iSight, I wonder how these tools could be used to do 
more effective note taking/archiving of talks. Will the talks be 
recorded on video for later DL by attendees? Would an iSight from the 
front row work well enough as far as light & sound go?

On the note taking front, anyone have experience on using SubEtha on a 
large scale? Is there a practical/hardcoded limit to the number of 
participants? Do all the macheads out there know about SubEthaEdit? If 
you don't, quickly go to http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/ and 
download it. As a programming IDE, it's not the greatest (it does have 
the basic emacs keybindings) but it's fabulous for group document 
editing. There are so many talks I want to attend, but since I'm going 
alone this year I can't possibly get notes from them all. Thus I want 
to tap into the group collective to help me record as much knowledge as 
possible. Think wiki's but in real-time.

I've been using SubEtha + iChatAV + iSight to do pair programming with 
a client who is in Italy for the summer and the combination is quite 
astounding. We're nearly as productive 5000 miles apart as we were 3 
feet apart.

Drew


From rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org  Tue Jun  7 14:09:16 2005
From: rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:09:16 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Note taking during the conference
In-Reply-To: <b82631f269523baa2942750cff1c58db@drewtaylor.com>
References: <b82631f269523baa2942750cff1c58db@drewtaylor.com>
Message-ID: <20050607210916.GK676@manxome.org>

* Drew Taylor <drew at drewtaylor.com> [2005-06-07T16:07:16]
> Now that I have a powerbook and have been introduced to the wonders of 
> SubEthaEdit & the iSight, I wonder how these tools could be used to do 
> more effective note taking/archiving of talks. Will the talks be 
> recorded on video for later DL by attendees? Would an iSight from the 
> front row work well enough as far as light & sound go?

An iSight in the front row may produce tolerable footage, and possibly
even decent sound.  I imagine that you'll have trouble getting the
entire presentation area in frame.

It's more important to note, though, that many presenters give their
talks as part of their way of making a living, and won't want you making
records.  Please be sure to ask permission of the presenter, first.

> On the note taking front, anyone have experience on using SubEtha on a 
> large scale?

It was used extensively at the last two OSCONs and the last YAPC, at
least.  I never saw it explode.

> I've been using SubEtha + iChatAV + iSight to do pair programming with 
> a client who is in Italy for the summer and the combination is quite 
> astounding. We're nearly as productive 5000 miles apart as we were 3 
> feet apart.

A common setup that emerged was iChat/Rendezvous status messages
announcing your location, and SEE/Rendezvous announcing your
note-taking.

-- 
rjbs
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From nothingmuch at woobling.org  Tue Jun  7 16:45:37 2005
From: nothingmuch at woobling.org (Yuval Kogman)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:45:37 +0300
Subject: [yapc] Note taking during the conference
In-Reply-To: <b82631f269523baa2942750cff1c58db@drewtaylor.com>
References: <b82631f269523baa2942750cff1c58db@drewtaylor.com>
Message-ID: <20050607234537.GA6636@woobling.org>

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 16:07:16 -0400, Drew Taylor wrote:

> On the note taking front, anyone have experience on using SubEtha on a 
> large scale? Is there a practical/hardcoded limit to the number of 
> participants?

With around 5 active participants in a document, my head nearly
exploded, a while ago.

If we do take notes with SEE, perhaps they should be centralized by
a one preselected person per talk, with people iChatting messages to
the person for corrections, and the person writing stuff down.

Anyone is free to correct typos/wordos, or to clarify grammar, but
actual content should go through one person, IMHO.

-- 
 ()  Yuval Kogman <nothingmuch at woobling.org> 0xEBD27418  perl hacker &
 /\  kung foo master: /me tips over a cow: neeyah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 22:10:04 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:10:04 -0400
Subject: [yapc] socialist maps for your perusing
Message-ID: <x74qc694r7.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


i have just spend the last hour or so making google maps from the 89
chestnut hotel to the various socialist locations. the cruise, arrival
dinner and movies pages have all been updated with these maps.

if someone knows how to merge them or to make a google map with our
locations as the pushpins, feel free to hack away. my maps are all hotel
to one point each. but they show the walking/driving path and distances
with nice graphics.

uri the navigator czar

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From magog at the-wire.com  Fri Jun 10 00:58:27 2005
From: magog at the-wire.com (Michael Graham)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:58:27 -0400
Subject: [yapc] socialist maps for your perusing
In-Reply-To: <x74qc694r7.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x74qc694r7.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <20050610035648.B669.MAGOG@the-wire.com>


> i have just spend the last hour or so making google maps from the 89
> chestnut hotel to the various socialist locations. the cruise, arrival
> dinner and movies pages have all been updated with these maps.

This is awesome, Uri!  This has been on our todo list for *ages*.

Thank you!

Michael


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YAPC::NA 2005 Toronto - http://www.yapc.org/America/ - na-help at yapc.org
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From uri at stemsystems.com  Sat Jun 11 22:03:17 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:03:17 -0400
Subject: [yapc] scavenger hunt
Message-ID: <x7ekb8rwtm.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


the scavenger hunt page has been updated. check it out at 

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?ScavengerHunt

also indicate your interest (no obligation) to join the hunt and your
past experiences at scavenger hunts at:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?HuntParticipants

and post fun potential team names at:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?TeamNames

thanx,

uri

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From kjh28 at cornell.edu  Mon Jun 13 14:46:31 2005
From: kjh28 at cornell.edu (Kevin J. Huddleston)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:46:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [yapc] unsubscribe fiivib address=<kjh28@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <46084.24.97.71.2.1118699191.squirrel@24.97.71.2>




From kcivey at cpcug.org  Mon Jun 13 18:49:03 2005
From: kcivey at cpcug.org (Keith Ivey)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:49:03 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Uri rules
Message-ID: <42AE378F.6030501@cpcug.org>

I keep seeing this subject line on the SpamAssassin users list and 
thinking I'm reading the YAPC list by mistake.

-- 
Keith C. Ivey <kcivey at cpcug.org>
Washington, DC

From murrayj at ca.ibm.com  Wed Jun 15 06:51:58 2005
From: murrayj at ca.ibm.com (Jason Murray)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:51:58 -0400
Subject: [yapc] The Star Wars Concert
In-Reply-To: <x74qc694r7.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <OFEFE3575B.BEAEC01C-ON85257021.004BD431-85257021.004C2B56@ca.ibm.com>

FYI ...

Erich Kunzel and members of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra will take you 
to a musical galaxy far, far away for these world premiere performances of 
the most powerful music from all six Star Wars films, featuring Special 
Guest narrator Anthony Daniels, who has played C-3PO in all six films. The 
concert also features dramatic choruses from the films, performed by the 
Mississauga Choral Society.

Tue. Jun. 28 at 8:00 p.m. 
$90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

Wed. Jun. 29 at 8:00 p.m.   
$90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

http://tso.ca/season/ticket/calendar_perform.cfm?ID=352


Thanks,

Jason Murray
IBM Global Services
Ph: 416.478.6239
MurrayJ at ca.ibm.com
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From rdice at pobox.com  Wed Jun 15 06:51:15 2005
From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:51:15 -0400
Subject: [yapc] The Star Wars Concert
In-Reply-To: <OFEFE3575B.BEAEC01C-ON85257021.004BD431-85257021.004C2B56@ca.ibm.com>
References: <OFEFE3575B.BEAEC01C-ON85257021.004BD431-85257021.004C2B56@ca.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <1118843475.42b032534539c@webmail.tht.net>

> Erich Kunzel and members of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra will take you 
> to a musical galaxy far, far away for these world premiere performances of 
> the most powerful music from all six Star Wars films, featuring Special 
> Guest narrator Anthony Daniels, who has played C-3PO in all six films. The 
> concert also features dramatic choruses from the films, performed by the 
> Mississauga Choral Society.

Very interesting, thanks.

> Tue. Jun. 28 at 8:00 p.m. 
> $90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

This is when the banquet/cruise is happening.

> Wed. Jun. 29 at 8:00 p.m.   
> $90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

More do-able for most people I think. :-)

> http://tso.ca/season/ticket/calendar_perform.cfm?ID=352

Cheers,
Richard


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From uri at stemsystems.com  Wed Jun 15 07:02:09 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:02:09 -0400
Subject: [yapc] The Star Wars Concert
In-Reply-To: <1118843475.42b032534539c@webmail.tht.net> (Richard Dice's
	message of "Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:51:15 -0400")
References: <OFEFE3575B.BEAEC01C-ON85257021.004BD431-85257021.004C2B56@ca.ibm.com>
	<1118843475.42b032534539c@webmail.tht.net>
Message-ID: <x7slzjiuqm.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "RD" == Richard Dice <rdice at pobox.com> writes:

  >> Erich Kunzel and members of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra will take you 
  >> to a musical galaxy far, far away for these world premiere performances of 
  >> the most powerful music from all six Star Wars films, featuring Special 
  >> Guest narrator Anthony Daniels, who has played C-3PO in all six films. The 
  >> concert also features dramatic choruses from the films, performed by the 
  >> Mississauga Choral Society.

  RD> Very interesting, thanks.

  >> Tue. Jun. 28 at 8:00 p.m. 
  >> $90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

  RD> This is when the banquet/cruise is happening.

  >> Wed. Jun. 29 at 8:00 p.m.   
  >> $90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

  RD> More do-able for most people I think. :-)

  >> http://tso.ca/season/ticket/calendar_perform.cfm?ID=352

as socialist czar, i order jason to add this to the wiki pages! but i
won't attend since i don't like the star wars music that much. :)

uri

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From murrayj at ca.ibm.com  Wed Jun 15 08:03:26 2005
From: murrayj at ca.ibm.com (Jason Murray)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:03:26 -0400
Subject: [yapc] The Star Wars Concert
In-Reply-To: <x7slzjiuqm.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <OFC79204CA.595068B3-ON85257021.0052B289-85257021.0052B6A8@ca.ibm.com>

Done

http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?StarWars

Thanks,

Jason Murray
IBM Global Services
Ph: 416.478.6239
MurrayJ at ca.ibm.com




Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> 
06/15/2005 10:02 AM

To
Richard Dice <rdice at pobox.com>
cc
Jason Murray/Toronto/IBM at IBMCA, yapc at mail.pm.org
Subject
Re: [yapc] The Star Wars Concert






>>>>> "RD" == Richard Dice <rdice at pobox.com> writes:

  >> Erich Kunzel and members of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra will take 
you 
  >> to a musical galaxy far, far away for these world premiere 
performances of 
  >> the most powerful music from all six Star Wars films, featuring 
Special 
  >> Guest narrator Anthony Daniels, who has played C-3PO in all six 
films. The 
  >> concert also features dramatic choruses from the films, performed by 
the 
  >> Mississauga Choral Society.

  RD> Very interesting, thanks.

  >> Tue. Jun. 28 at 8:00 p.m. 
  >> $90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

  RD> This is when the banquet/cruise is happening.

  >> Wed. Jun. 29 at 8:00 p.m. 
  >> $90, $80, $60, $40, $30, $25 (cdn)

  RD> More do-able for most people I think. :-)

  >> http://tso.ca/season/ticket/calendar_perform.cfm?ID=352

as socialist czar, i order jason to add this to the wiki pages! but i
won't attend since i don't like the star wars music that much. :)

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Wed Jun 15 12:27:52 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:27:52 -0400
Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner final info
Message-ID: <x71x73zah3.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


the votes are in and the winner is:

Rol San
232 Spadina Ave.
(416)977-1128

we have a reservation in the name 'yapc' (i didn't bother to explain
it!) for 7pm, Sunday June 26th.

the wiki page has a map and reviews. be sure to signup if you want to
join us:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?ArrivalRSVP

stragglers will be ok too as they have plenty of seats. i will get an
updated head count to them next week.

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Wed Jun 15 21:39:47 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:39:47 -0400
Subject: [yapc] arrival times
Message-ID: <x73briud7w.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


i noticed a few more entries in the arrival times page:

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?ArrivalTimes

but 6 of us is a lot less than the 300+ already registered. :)

so signup on that page if you want to meet up at the airport, do
something before the conference, share a cab ride to the hotel/dorms,
etc.

in particular, i am looking to share a cab ride to/from the airport and
89 chestnut. i arrive on sunday at 2:05 (and have to pass through
customs) and leave on wed at noon. if you want to share a cab in either
direction let me know.

thanx,

uri

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From tom at legrady.ca  Sun Jun 19 14:04:33 2005
From: tom at legrady.ca (Tom Legrady)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:04:33 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Next Sunday may be an interesting time in Toronto
In-Reply-To: <x73briud7w.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x73briud7w.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <37535E1D-0289-4592-ACF5-C327E0FA0DD4@legrady.ca>

Has anyone mentioned that Sunday, June 26 is the Gay Pride parade,  
and will be a hectic time on the parade route - Bloor from Church to  
Yonge, down Yonge to Gerrard, and back to Church, and anywhere within  
a few miles.

Toronto's Gay Pride parade is one of the largest ... #2 or #3, I  
believe ( S.F. is #1, of course; NY is #2 I think? ) anyway ... one  
million people will b jammed into a small area just a few blocks  
north of the hotel. Go out the front door, turn right to Dundas, and  
right to Yonge, then go left till you hit a wall of noise.

The party extends late into the night.

If you're not familiar with Gay Pride, you don't need to be  
interested in the same sex to enjoy the parade. Like Mardi Gras,  
there are people in outrageous costumes. There are handsome guys and  
gorgeous gals, and plain people, dancing, playing music, and having  
fun. And Canada 'decency' laws requiring women to cover their tops  
were struck down ten years ago as sexist ( thank you, Gwen Jacobs) so  
don't be surprised by what you see.



Tom

From uri at stemsystems.com  Sun Jun 19 20:28:53 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:28:53 -0400
Subject: [yapc] movie info update
Message-ID: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


hi to all monger flicksters,

i checked the movie schedules of the nearby plexes and the three popular
geek flix batman, smith and wars are all playing after 10pm. this means
we could easily migrate over to the varsity theaters after the arrival
dinner rol san (which starts at 7). i have updated the movie page with
this info and a map from the restaurant to the varsity at manulife
center.

	http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?MovieNight

of course you can go to theaters at any time you want but it is much
merrier movie monitoring midst a mammoth monger mob. maybe at 10pm on
sunday night, we would be able to almost fill a theater and then the
heckling begins. make it so!

topic: do you want to crash bruce, brad or darth? discuss amongst
yourselves!

i will not have seen any of them by yapc time so i will just follow the
democratically chosen cash donation to the media megoliths. show off
your perl-fu by rigging the voting system better than the republicans
did! as always, bribes are encouraged and welcome.

uri, your connection to hollywood.

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From rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org  Mon Jun 20 04:18:41 2005
From: rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:18:41 -0400
Subject: [yapc] movie info update
In-Reply-To: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org>

* Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-19T23:28:53]
> geek flix batman, smith and wars are all playing after 10pm. this means
> we could easily migrate over to the varsity theaters after the arrival
> dinner rol san (which starts at 7). i have updated the movie page with
> this info and a map from the restaurant to the varsity at manulife
> center.

...and probably Land of the Dead?

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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Mon Jun 20 04:22:59 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:22:59 +0100
Subject: [yapc] movie info update
In-Reply-To: <20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org>
References: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org>
Message-ID: <20050620112259.GA8145@natura.di.uminho.pt>

* Ricardo SIGNES (rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org) wrote:
> * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-19T23:28:53]
> > geek flix batman, smith and wars are all playing after 10pm. this means
> > we could easily migrate over to the varsity theaters after the arrival
> > dinner rol san (which starts at 7). i have updated the movie page with
> > this info and a map from the restaurant to the varsity at manulife
> > center.
> 
> ...and probably Land of the Dead?

Oh, that would rock :-)

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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Mon Jun 20 06:33:38 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:33:38 +0100
Subject: [yapc] Power Plugs
Message-ID: <20050620133338.GB8145@natura.di.uminho.pt>

I was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_plugs to see what
kind of adaptor I'll be needing.

It seems you guys use "Type B (American 3-pin)" power plug.

Can anyone confirm this, please? :-)

TIA,

jac

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From dan.scott at ca.ibm.com  Mon Jun 20 06:35:55 2005
From: dan.scott at ca.ibm.com (Dan Scott)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:35:55 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Power Plugs
In-Reply-To: <20050620133338.GB8145@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <OF52B1E6A1.A7492BF4-ON85257026.004A7D69-85257026.004AB018@ca.ibm.com>

yapc-bounces at pm.org wrote on 06/20/2005 09:33:38 AM:

> I was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_plugs to see what
> kind of adaptor I'll be needing.
> 
> It seems you guys use "Type B (American 3-pin)" power plug.
> 
> Can anyone confirm this, please? :-)

Confirmed!

I'll try to remember to bring the universal power receptacle converter I 
bought
for 20 euros on on my last flight so that someone else can get some use 
out of it :)

Dan

From PATRICK.ANDERSON at bankofamerica.com  Mon Jun 20 06:54:11 2005
From: PATRICK.ANDERSON at bankofamerica.com (ANDERSON, PATRICK)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:11 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Next Sunday may be an interesting time in Toronto
Message-ID: <5428D633F4014E4EBB589EE17A86BAEC05AD3EE8@usalbwmxmp23.ny.fbf1.com>

On Sunday, June 19, 2005 5:05 PM, Tom Legrady wrote:
> Has anyone mentioned that Sunday, June 26 is the Gay Pride parade

I think we all need to show up with camel T-shirts that bear the
text "Geek Pride".

From uri at stemsystems.com  Mon Jun 20 08:36:00 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:36:00 -0400
Subject: [yapc] movie info update
In-Reply-To: <20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org> (Ricardo SIGNES's message
	of "Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:18:41 -0400")
References: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org>
Message-ID: <x7mzpl59cv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "RS" == Ricardo SIGNES <rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org> writes:

  RS> * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-19T23:28:53]
  >> geek flix batman, smith and wars are all playing after 10pm. this means
  >> we could easily migrate over to the varsity theaters after the arrival
  >> dinner rol san (which starts at 7). i have updated the movie page with
  >> this info and a map from the restaurant to the varsity at manulife
  >> center.

  RS> ...and probably Land of the Dead?

i must be out of touch. what is it? where will it be playing yapc week?

i know war of the worlds opens on wed (last day) of yapc but i don't
have the schedule for local showings yet.

uri

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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Mon Jun 20 08:44:11 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:44:11 +0100
Subject: [yapc] movie info update
In-Reply-To: <x7mzpl59cv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org>
	<x7mzpl59cv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <20050620154410.GA12897@natura.di.uminho.pt>

* Uri Guttman (uri at stemsystems.com) wrote:
> >>>>> "RS" == Ricardo SIGNES <rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org> writes:
> 
>   RS> * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-19T23:28:53]
>   >> geek flix batman, smith and wars are all playing after 10pm. this means
>   >> we could easily migrate over to the varsity theaters after the arrival
>   >> dinner rol san (which starts at 7). i have updated the movie page with
>   >> this info and a map from the restaurant to the varsity at manulife
>   >> center.
> 
>   RS> ...and probably Land of the Dead?
> 
> i must be out of touch. what is it? where will it be playing yapc week?

It's the new movie by George Romero: http://imdb.com/title/tt0418819

> i know war of the worlds opens on wed (last day) of yapc but i don't
> have the schedule for local showings yet.
> 
> uri
> 
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From uri at stemsystems.com  Mon Jun 20 08:46:16 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:46:16 -0400
Subject: [yapc] movie info update
In-Reply-To: <20050620154410.GA12897@natura.di.uminho.pt> 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?=28Jos=E9?= Castro's message of "Mon,
	20 Jun 2005 16:44:11 +0100")
References: <x7ekaxaeq2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050620111841.GK12890@manxome.org> <x7mzpl59cv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050620154410.GA12897@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <x7acll58vr.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro <jac at natura.di.uminho.pt> writes:

  JC> * Uri Guttman (uri at stemsystems.com) wrote:
  >> >>>>> "RS" == Ricardo SIGNES <rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org> writes:
  >> 
  RS> * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-19T23:28:53]
  >> >> geek flix batman, smith and wars are all playing after 10pm. this means
  >> >> we could easily migrate over to the varsity theaters after the arrival
  >> >> dinner rol san (which starts at 7). i have updated the movie page with
  >> >> this info and a map from the restaurant to the varsity at manulife
  >> >> center.
  >> 
  RS> ...and probably Land of the Dead?
  >> 
  >> i must be out of touch. what is it? where will it be playing yapc week?

  JC> It's the new movie by George Romero: http://imdb.com/title/tt0418819

sounds like his. not to my interest but if you get schedule info, post
it to the wiki. i need to add another theater there too (players).

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Mon Jun 20 09:51:40 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:51:40 -0400
Subject: [yapc] more movie info
Message-ID: <x7r7ex3rab.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


QiangJamesLi has updated the movie page with info on the paramount
(famous players) plex. it is much closer to the chinese place and hotel
and it is also showing all the big hits. it even lists batman on IMAX at
10pm so that is my choice for sunday night! it is also shoing crash and
howl's moving castle (the latest from the guy who made monomoke). i
updated the page with the schedule for these and changed the map to go
from the restaurant to the paramount. it is much closer than the varsity.

http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?MovieNight

so i will definitely be going to batman on the imax at 10pm sunday
night. feel free to tag along!

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Mon Jun 20 11:00:21 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:00:21 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
Message-ID: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz for
a url but it isn't responding. so if anyone local to toronto can find
out how to contact a manager there, please do and get me contact
info. maybe we could actually grab the imax for ourselves if i try a
last second offer of a sellout. :) as that time slot (10pm on sunday)
shouldn't be too popular. if we can't get the whole place, i would
suggest buying tickets at the box office before the arrival dinner. it
isn't far from the hotel and not that out of the way to rol san. that
will be my plan too.

uri

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Mon Jun 20 12:25:11 2005
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 20 Jun 2005 12:25:11 -0700
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <86is08sueg.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> writes:

Uri> i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
Uri> advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz for
Uri> a url but it isn't responding. so if anyone local to toronto can find
Uri> out how to contact a manager there, please do and get me contact
Uri> info. maybe we could actually grab the imax for ourselves if i try a
Uri> last second offer of a sellout. :) as that time slot (10pm on sunday)
Uri> shouldn't be too popular. if we can't get the whole place, i would
Uri> suggest buying tickets at the box office before the arrival dinner. it
Uri> isn't far from the hotel and not that out of the way to rol san. that
Uri> will be my plan too.

I saw Batman on Imax here in Buffalo over the weekend.

The movie was great (a far better prequel than Star Wars 3).

However, the Imax is really wasted for this.  Because the film is
widescreen, only the middle third (quarter?) of the Imax screen gets
used, so it's about like looking at the movie on a normal projection,
provided your film jock knows how to get the focus right.

It's not like the releases (I've heard) of mainstream movies that are
recut to fit the Imax aspect ratio.  Too bad I wasn't able to see one
of those.

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Tue Jun 21 11:41:52 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:41:52 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com> (Rex Roof's message
	of "Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:36:20 -0400")
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<86is08sueg.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x7y893y2kv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "RR" == Rex Roof <rexroof at gmail.com> writes:

  RR> On 20 Jun 2005 12:25:11 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn at stonehenge.com> wrote:
  >> I saw Batman on Imax here in Buffalo over the weekend.
  >> 
  >> The movie was great (a far better prequel than Star Wars 3).
  >> 
  >> However, the Imax is really wasted for this.  Because the film is
  >> widescreen, only the middle third (quarter?) of the Imax screen gets
  >> used, so it's about like looking at the movie on a normal projection,
  >> provided your film jock knows how to get the focus right.
  >> 
  >> It's not like the releases (I've heard) of mainstream movies that are
  >> recut to fit the Imax aspect ratio.  Too bad I wasn't able to see one
  >> of those.

  RR> I saw the matrix sequel in imax and it was a full imax movie.
  RR> I'm sort of surprised that batman isn't full imax, too, if they're
  RR> bothering to show it in the theater.

when i called the paramount number (on the wiki page), the recording
first plugs the batman/imax and i think it mentioned the image being
specially done for the screen. maybe some imax places are just showing
the basic 35mm film on a larger screen and others paid more for the imax
format film.

if someone wants to call that number and transcribe the info, it would
be cool if you put that on the wiki or emailed it to this list.

uri

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Jun 21 12:18:17 2005
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 21 Jun 2005 12:18:17 -0700
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<86is08sueg.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86vf47r01y.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Rex" == Rex Roof <rexroof at gmail.com> writes:

Rex> I saw the matrix sequel in imax and it was a full imax movie.
Rex> I'm sort of surprised that batman isn't full imax, too, if they're
Rex> bothering to show it in the theater.

Wikipedia says (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imax>) that these movies
are "DMR".  So they're technically "Imax DMR", but not really "Imax".

And when you mean "full Imax movie", did it fill the Imax screen from
top to bottom (just like the imax previews), or just the middle third
of the screen (letterboxed)?  I'd be surprised if they recut a Matrix
movie using Pan-and-Scan so that it was square instead of 2.35:1.
Especially when Pan-and-Scan for television is 1.85:1.  I can't
imagine how much the editor has to work to get that into 1:1. :)

Especially when the IMDB
<http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0234215/alternateversions> says:

  The 16mm print of the film (sent to college campuses, etc.) features
  some scenes in letterboxed widescreen form and some scenes in
  Academy ratio (i.e. full-frame). In at least one scene, this format
  revealed more than the directors intended (see goofs).

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Jun 21 12:21:14 2005
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 21 Jun 2005 12:21:14 -0700
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <86vf47r01y.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<86is08sueg.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com>
	<86vf47r01y.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
Message-ID: <86oe9zqzx1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <merlyn at stonehenge.com> writes:

Randal> And when you mean "full Imax movie", did it fill the Imax screen from
Randal> top to bottom (just like the imax previews), or just the middle third
Randal> of the screen (letterboxed)?  I'd be surprised if they recut a Matrix
Randal> movie using Pan-and-Scan so that it was square instead of 2.35:1.
Randal> Especially when Pan-and-Scan for television is 1.85:1.  I can't
Randal> imagine how much the editor has to work to get that into 1:1. :)

OK, looking closer, it's not 1:1, but rather 69.6:48.5, or a very narrow
1.44:1.  But that's still taller and narrower than normal television.

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Jun 21 12:23:05 2005
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 21 Jun 2005 12:23:05 -0700
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <x7y893y2kv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<86is08sueg.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com>
	<x7y893y2kv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <86k6knqzty.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> writes:

Uri> when i called the paramount number (on the wiki page), the
Uri> recording first plugs the batman/imax and i think it mentioned
Uri> the image being specially done for the screen. maybe some imax
Uri> places are just showing the basic 35mm film on a larger screen
Uri> and others paid more for the imax format film.

Well, it's not the 35mm film on a larger screen.  If it's like what I
saw for Batman, it's the 35mm cut of the film reprinted onto Imax
film.  That still only uses the middle third of the screen.  So
they're right in saying "it's a special Imax print", but they're
projecting a lot of black. :)

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Jun 21 12:51:33 2005
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 21 Jun 2005 12:51:33 -0700
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <6afb69aa05062112466b98f15b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<86is08sueg.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<6afb69aa05062111363fe3724e@mail.gmail.com>
	<x7y893y2kv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com> <86k6knqzty.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<6afb69aa05062112466b98f15b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86ekavqyii.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Rex" == Rex Roof <rexroof at gmail.com> writes:

Rex> the matrix movies were DMR.  so they were the full imax screen, while
Rex> not being filmed in true imax.  but it was damned impressive.

Really?  You must have some very small and badly operated movie
screens where you normally go.  I really didn't get enough out of
seeing Batman Begins in DMR to justify driving the extra 8 miles for
me, over what I would normally get from the big house at my local
theatre at home.

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From drew at drewtaylor.com  Tue Jun 21 14:00:23 2005
From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:00:23 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <26303f4f1b984ba1a7ea1da8684d1fc2@drewtaylor.com>

On Jun 20, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:

>
> i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
> advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz 
> for
>
I'm up for Batman on imax as long as the tickets are reasonably priced, 
ie very little extra vs a regular theater.

Only 5 days till I see Toronto!!! :-)

Drew


From rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org  Tue Jun 21 14:04:42 2005
From: rjbs-perl-yapc at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:04:42 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
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Message-ID: <20050621210442.GR12890@manxome.org>

* Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-20T14:00:21]
> i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
> advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz for

I just thought I'd voice my thoughts that: while Batman was a good
movie, I think it's too popular for us to be able to get the whole
auditorium and be able to heckle it.  Also, I think SW3 should be more
fun to heckle in general.  I'm not really excited about seeing Batman
again /without/ yelling at the screen... it was good, but once in two
weeks is enough.

-- 
rjbs
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From dha at panix.com  Tue Jun 21 14:12:33 2005
From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
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	<20050621210442.GR12890@manxome.org>
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:04:42PM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
> * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-20T14:00:21]
> > i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
> > advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz for
> 
> I just thought I'd voice my thoughts that: while Batman was a good
> movie, I think it's too popular for us to be able to get the whole
> auditorium and be able to heckle it.  Also, I think SW3 should be more
> fun to heckle in general.

This is the basis on which I'd suggest Mr. & Mrs. Smith. My current
opinion on it is "Hm. there may be enough explosions to make up for the
script." Hecklification would up its worthwhileatude for me.

Also, I like making up words.

dha

-- 
David H. Adler - <dha at panix.com> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
I'm not a tramp... I'm an Episcopalian!
	- subbes

From uri at stemsystems.com  Tue Jun 21 14:29:41 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:29:41 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com> (David H. Adler's message of
	"Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400")
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050621210442.GR12890@manxome.org>
	<20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com>
Message-ID: <x77jgnxut6.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "DHA" == David H Adler <dha at panix.com> writes:

  DHA> On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:04:42PM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
  >> * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-20T14:00:21]
  >> > i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
  >> > advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz for
  >> 
  >> I just thought I'd voice my thoughts that: while Batman was a good
  >> movie, I think it's too popular for us to be able to get the whole
  >> auditorium and be able to heckle it.  Also, I think SW3 should be more
  >> fun to heckle in general.

  DHA> This is the basis on which I'd suggest Mr. & Mrs. Smith. My current
  DHA> opinion on it is "Hm. there may be enough explosions to make up for the
  DHA> script." Hecklification would up its worthwhileatude for me.

as of yet the movie outings are totally impromptu and we have no theater
reservation (and it is unlikely to happen on such short notice). so feel
free to pick your fave flick from whichever plex you want to choose. i
am just stating my view of wanting the imax since i like big screens,
raked seating, smaller crowds, better seats. :)

as for the chances of our getting the whole place, given the time slot i
would think it would be pretty good. but i can't reach a manager there
so i can't do anything. as i asked before, if someone locally can just
go there and accost/kidnap their PHB and get them in touch with me, then
i can see what we can do.

  DHA> Also, I like making up words.

that's why they call you the 'addler'!

uri

-- 
Uri Guttman  ------  uri at stemsystems.com  -------- http://www.stemsystems.com
--Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding-
Search or Offer Perl Jobs  ----------------------------  http://jobs.perl.org

From drew at drewtaylor.com  Tue Jun 21 14:54:36 2005
From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:54:36 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050621210442.GR12890@manxome.org>
	<20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com>
Message-ID: <6f5d59442e0826abd5678064a3c7d5a7@drewtaylor.com>

On Jun 21, 2005, at 5:12 PM, David H. Adler wrote:
>
> This is the basis on which I'd suggest Mr. & Mrs. Smith. My current
> opinion on it is "Hm. there may be enough explosions to make up for the
> script." Hecklification would up its worthwhileatude for me.
>
It also has Angelina Jolie, which IMHO would make up for a whole 
multitude of deficiencies. ;-)

Drew


From dan at sidhe.org  Tue Jun 21 15:21:27 2005
From: dan at sidhe.org (Dan Sugalski)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:21:27 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050621210442.GR12890@manxome.org> <20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com>
Message-ID: <a06230918bede42aa7789@[192.168.0.8]>

At 5:12 PM -0400 6/21/05, David H. Adler wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:04:42PM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
>>  * Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com> [2005-06-20T14:00:21]
>>  > i called the paramount famous players and they are selling tix in
>>  > advance for batman on the imax. the recording gave famousplayers.biz for
>>
>>  I just thought I'd voice my thoughts that: while Batman was a good
>>  movie, I think it's too popular for us to be able to get the whole
>>  auditorium and be able to heckle it.  Also, I think SW3 should be more
>>  fun to heckle in general.
>
>This is the basis on which I'd suggest Mr. & Mrs. Smith. My current
>opinion on it is "Hm. there may be enough explosions to make up for the
>script." Hecklification would up its worthwhileatude for me.

Having seen Mr. & Mrs. Smith, I can say it has a significantly 
negative suckatude rating, to the point where the explosions actually 
get in the way, odd though that may seem. (As opposed to, say, SW3, 
which desperately needed Joel and the 'bots, and may go down as the 
highest-budget remake of "Manos: Hands of fate" in history...)
-- 
				Dan

--------------------------------------it's like this-------------------
Dan Sugalski                          even samurai
dan at sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even
                                       teddy bears get drunk

From dha at panix.com  Tue Jun 21 15:40:56 2005
From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:40:56 -0400
Subject: [yapc] batman on imax
In-Reply-To: <a06230918bede42aa7789@[192.168.0.8]>
References: <x73brc52oa.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<20050621210442.GR12890@manxome.org>
	<20050621211233.GA28559@panix.com>
	<a06230918bede42aa7789@[192.168.0.8]>
Message-ID: <20050621224056.GA15827@panix.com>

On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 06:21:27PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> (As opposed to, say, SW3, which desperately needed Joel and the 'bots,
> and may go down as the highest-budget remake of "Manos: Hands of fate"
> in history...)

Ooh. Harsh.

dha
-- 
David H. Adler - <dha at panix.com> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
At the very least, if there is no law, rule or regulation against using
the public airwaves to knowingly present news that is false and
distorted, it's time the FCC or the Congress write one. - Steve Wilson

From chip at pobox.com  Tue Jun 21 21:24:28 2005
From: chip at pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:24:28 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Anybody have a half a hotel room for Saturday night?
Message-ID: <20050622042428.GJ14929@tytlal.topaz.cx>

I've had a last-minute change of travel plans -- for reasons quite
significant, which I'll be very pleased to share at YAPC, but not just
yet -- and I'm probably going to be arriving on Saturday, but my hotel
reservation (shared with my bro) starts on Sunday.

If anyone has an extra bed for Saturday night, that'd be Really Neat.
Happy to split the price, of course.

Thanks.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg <chip at pobox.com>

From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Thu Jun 23 08:13:24 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:13:24 +0100
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
Message-ID: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>

I still haven't been able to find an adaptor.

I'm in the hopes of buying one in Toronto, assuming I won't find one
before...

If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)

Thank you very much :-)

jac

PS: As a note, what we use in Portugal looks like
http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/C_plug.jpg or
http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/F_plug.jpg

--
Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
      http://jose-castro.org/

From autarch at urth.org  Thu Jun 23 08:28:30 2005
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:28:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0506231024220.29263@urth.org>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Jos? Castro wrote:

> If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
> the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
> during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)

If you want to order one and have it shipped to me overnight I'd be happy 
to bring it with me.  I leave on Saturday.


http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F009%5F001%5F004%5F000&product%5Fid=273%2D1451

That just looks like it adapts the plug, but if it's _only_ for a laptop 
your transformer should handle North American voltages.  Otherwise you'd 
need a transformer too, which would be freaking heavy and big.


-dave

/*===================================================
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Your guide to all that's veg.       My book blog
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From gblackburn at mac.com  Thu Jun 23 08:33:24 2005
From: gblackburn at mac.com (Gary Blackburn)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:33:24 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <9FF83DF4-DDCC-49EE-BA8F-134BBBD6213F@mac.com>


On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Jos? Castro wrote:

> I still haven't been able to find an adaptor.
>
> I'm in the hopes of buying one in Toronto, assuming I won't find one
> before...
>
> If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
> the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
> during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)

I have an adaptor that looks very much like it would work with the  
"C" type plug (it's from a clock radio I bought in Japan, though I  
suspect it was built for US/European export since the plug is the  
round type, and it came with an American style blade adaptor in the  
box.) It's not a transformer or anything, just an adaptor.

Unfortunately I won't be arriving until Sunday, and the overnight  
charges to Toronto are probably higher than the cost of the plug itself.

But, I'll throw it in my bag and if you need it just let me know.

---
Gary Blackburn
gblackburn at mac.com


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From indy at indigostar.com  Thu Jun 23 08:34:19 2005
From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:34:19 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <00bf01c57809$18958ca0$6e00a8c0@roadhog>

Most airports have shops that sell them.  Look for it at your departure airport.  Toronto Airport would be a possibility too.

In Canada it will be easy to find adaptors for plugging Canadian applicances into foreign sockets, but harder the other way around.

Indy Singh
IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jos? Castro" <jac at natura.di.uminho.pt>
To: <yapc at mail.pm.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)


>I still haven't been able to find an adaptor.
>
> I'm in the hopes of buying one in Toronto, assuming I won't find one
> before...
>
> If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
> the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
> during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)
>
> Thank you very much :-)
>
> jac
>
> PS: As a note, what we use in Portugal looks like
> http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/C_plug.jpg or
> http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/F_plug.jpg
>
> --
> Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
>      http://jose-castro.org/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc 


From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Thu Jun 23 08:45:08 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:45:08 +0100
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <00bf01c57809$18958ca0$6e00a8c0@roadhog>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<00bf01c57809$18958ca0$6e00a8c0@roadhog>
Message-ID: <20050623154508.GO28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>

* Indy Singh (indy at indigostar.com) wrote:
> Most airports have shops that sell them.  Look for it at your departure 
> airport.  Toronto Airport would be a possibility too.

Airports, good idea!

I suppose buying cheap stuff at airports won't do much harm...

Unlike buying more expensive things...

Such as a digital camera that really looks like a bargain but IRL
isn't...

Damned Brazilian airports...

Thanks for the suggestion, Indy :-)

jac

> In Canada it will be easy to find adaptors for plugging Canadian 
> applicances into foreign sockets, but harder the other way around.
> 
> Indy Singh
> IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jos? Castro" <jac at natura.di.uminho.pt>
> To: <yapc at mail.pm.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:13 AM
> Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
> 
> 
> >I still haven't been able to find an adaptor.
> >
> >I'm in the hopes of buying one in Toronto, assuming I won't find one
> >before...
> >
> >If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
> >the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
> >during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)
> >
> >Thank you very much :-)
> >
> >jac
> >
> >PS: As a note, what we use in Portugal looks like
> >http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/C_plug.jpg or
> >http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/F_plug.jpg
> >
> >--
> >Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
> >     http://jose-castro.org/
> >_______________________________________________
> >yapc mailing list
> >yapc at pm.org
> >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc 
--
Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
      http://jose-castro.org/

From drew at drewtaylor.com  Thu Jun 23 08:45:57 2005
From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:45:57 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623154508.GO28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<00bf01c57809$18958ca0$6e00a8c0@roadhog>
	<20050623154508.GO28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <90092f788653e4937995ef6fd9d43664@drewtaylor.com>

On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Jos? Castro wrote:

> * Indy Singh (indy at indigostar.com) wrote:
>> Most airports have shops that sell them.  Look for it at your 
>> departure
>> airport.  Toronto Airport would be a possibility too.
>
> Airports, good idea!
>
> I suppose buying cheap stuff at airports won't do much harm...

Keep in mind that at most airports in North America I've been to, 
"cheap" only refers to quality. NOT price. :-)

Drew

From dan at sidhe.org  Thu Jun 23 08:50:53 2005
From: dan at sidhe.org (Dan Sugalski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:50:53 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623154508.GO28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<00bf01c57809$18958ca0$6e00a8c0@roadhog>
	<20050623154508.GO28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <a06230924bee08a0e967f@[192.168.0.8]>

At 4:45 PM +0100 6/23/05, Jos? Castro wrote:
>* Indy Singh (indy at indigostar.com) wrote:
>>  Most airports have shops that sell them.  Look for it at your departure
>>  airport.  Toronto Airport would be a possibility too.
>
>Airports, good idea!

Also check and see what plug you need. Most 
laptop adapters I've seen have a detachable power 
cord that plugs into the transformer brick, with 
the national power plug on one end and on the 
other's a universal two-lobed plug and socket 
thing. I know Radio Shack in the US sells a 
universal adapter kit for these things that has a 
set of plugs on one end and that generic 
two-lobed thing on the other. If that's the case 
you may have a lot more options, since you may be 
able to trade spare cords or plugs with someone.
-- 
				Dan

--------------------------------------it's like this-------------------
Dan Sugalski                          even samurai
dan at sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even
                                       teddy bears get drunk

From waltman at pobox.com  Thu Jun 23 09:18:13 2005
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:18:13 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <a06230924bee08a0e967f@[192.168.0.8]>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<00bf01c57809$18958ca0$6e00a8c0@roadhog>
	<20050623154508.GO28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<a06230924bee08a0e967f@[192.168.0.8]>
Message-ID: <20050623161813.GX11380@waltman.dnsalias.org>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:50:53AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Also check and see what plug you need. Most 
> laptop adapters I've seen have a detachable power 
> cord that plugs into the transformer brick, with 
> the national power plug on one end and on the 
> other's a universal two-lobed plug and socket 
> thing. I know Radio Shack in the US sells a 
> universal adapter kit for these things that has a 
> set of plugs on one end and that generic 
> two-lobed thing on the other. If that's the case 
> you may have a lot more options, since you may be 
> able to trade spare cords or plugs with someone.

My powerbook's power brick says it can handle 100-240 volts, so it
should be able to handle either North American or European power.
Chances are whatever laptop you have is similar.  In that case all you
need is an adaptor to fit the different shaped plugs.  I've got a set
which I'll be happy to bring with me.  I'm arriving Saturday evening,
though I'm going to the Argonauts game so I probably won't be at the
hotel much until later in the evening.

If you can't wait that long, well, Toronto's a big, international
city, and I doubt you'd have much trouble finding them in any radio
shack or travel store downtown.

Walt
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From indy at indigostar.com  Thu Jun 23 09:22:31 2005
From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:22:31 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <014301c5780f$d3d48510$6e00a8c0@roadhog>

I called Radio Shack to confirm that they do sell a variety of such 
adaptors.  These stores are located all over downtown.
They have now been renamed to "The Source by Circuit City".  The nearest 
one is:

The Source (formally Radio Shack) 416 979 7776
Mon-Fri: 10:00 AM-09:00 PM, Sat: 09:30 AM-07:00 PM, Sun: 12:00 PM-06:00 
PM
Location Toronto Eaton Center Mall, which is 2 minutes from the 
conference site.

Indy Singh
IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jos? Castro" <jac at natura.di.uminho.pt>
To: <yapc at mail.pm.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)


>I still haven't been able to find an adaptor.
>
> I'm in the hopes of buying one in Toronto, assuming I won't find one
> before...
>
> If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
> the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
> during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)
>
> Thank you very much :-)
>
> jac
>
> PS: As a note, what we use in Portugal looks like
> http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/C_plug.jpg or
> http://braga.yapceurope.org/images/F_plug.jpg
>
> --
> Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
>      http://jose-castro.org/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc 


From jf647 at mac.com  Thu Jun 23 09:23:56 2005
From: jf647 at mac.com (James FitzGibbon)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:23:56 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
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Jos? Castro wrote:

>I still haven't been able to find an adaptor.
>
>I'm in the hopes of buying one in Toronto, assuming I won't find one
>before...
>
>  
>
Will this work?

http://www.targus.com/ca/product_details.asp?sku=PA025C

This is available at a local "Future Shop" store near the hotel (I 
called and confirmed that they have 5 in stock) for $30 CDN + tax.  
There's a web discount down to $25 that you might be able to finagle 
them into too....

Store info:

*Downtown Toronto*
351 - 353 Yonge Street
Toronto, Ontario
M5B 1S1
(416) 971-5377

*Store Hours*
Monday - Friday : 10 am - 9 pm
Saturday : 10 am - 9 pm
Sunday : 11 am - 5 pm

Regards

-- 
j.

From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Thu Jun 23 09:36:43 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:36:43 +0100
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
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* Walt Mankowski (waltman at pobox.com) wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:50:53AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > Also check and see what plug you need. Most 
> > laptop adapters I've seen have a detachable power 
> > cord that plugs into the transformer brick, with 
> > the national power plug on one end and on the 
> > other's a universal two-lobed plug and socket 
> > thing. I know Radio Shack in the US sells a 
> > universal adapter kit for these things that has a 
> > set of plugs on one end and that generic 
> > two-lobed thing on the other. If that's the case 
> > you may have a lot more options, since you may be 
> > able to trade spare cords or plugs with someone.
> 
> My powerbook's power brick says it can handle 100-240 volts, so it
> should be able to handle either North American or European power.
> Chances are whatever laptop you have is similar.

Yep.

> In that case all you
> need is an adaptor to fit the different shaped plugs.  I've got a set
> which I'll be happy to bring with me.

Please do.

> I'm arriving Saturday evening,
> though I'm going to the Argonauts game so I probably won't be at the
> hotel much until later in the evening.

Well wouldn't you know... I'm going to the Argonauts game too! I guess
we'll meet up there :-)

Regards,

jac

--
Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
      http://jose-castro.org/

From cees at crtconsulting.ca  Thu Jun 23 09:30:38 2005
From: cees at crtconsulting.ca (Cees Hek)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:30:38 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0506231024220.29263@urth.org>
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
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Dave Rolsky wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Jos? Castro wrote:
> 
>> If anyone knows where I can buy one once I get there, I'd appreciate
>> the information, as it would help me in the process of slide-creation
>> during the weekend O:-) (I'm arriving tomorrow... I hope)
> 
> That just looks like it adapts the plug, but if it's _only_ for a laptop
> your transformer should handle North American voltages.  Otherwise you'd
> need a transformer too, which would be freaking heavy and big.

I think most laptops will handle a range of voltages.  But if someone
does need a transformer, I might be able to get my hands on one that
converts from 110 up to 220 or 240 (I can't remember where it is so I
have to search for it).  I used to use it for my lego electric trainset
which was purchased in holland when I was but a young pup (it was a bit
overkill, as it converted 110V up to 220V, only to then bring it back
down to 12V for the lego trainset).

The only caveat is that I may not be at the conference, as my wife is
due with our second a couple of days after the conference.  So I am
hopping this one is early like our first was, but my time is running out
fast :(.  Luckily I only live a couple hours away from the conference so
I can still decide last minute.  So if I do go, I will bring it in case
it is needed...

Cheers,

Cees

ps Fulko currently has my old laptop which has an Australian plug with a
North American adapter on it.  I don't think he can use the laptop for
what he needed it for, so that adapter could be up for grabs as well.
And I happen to have a multi-country to Australian adapter which could
plug into my australian to N.A. adapter to allow it to work for anyone :)


From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 09:47:19 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:47:19 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623161813.GX11380@waltman.dnsalias.org> (Walt Mankowski's
	message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:18:13 -0400")
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>>>>> "WM" == Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com> writes:

  WM> On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:50:53AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
  >> Also check and see what plug you need. Most 
  >> laptop adapters I've seen have a detachable power 
  >> cord that plugs into the transformer brick, with 
  >> the national power plug on one end and on the 
  >> other's a universal two-lobed plug and socket 
  >> thing. I know Radio Shack in the US sells a 
  >> universal adapter kit for these things that has a 
  >> set of plugs on one end and that generic 
  >> two-lobed thing on the other. If that's the case 
  >> you may have a lot more options, since you may be 
  >> able to trade spare cords or plugs with someone.

  WM> My powerbook's power brick says it can handle 100-240 volts, so it
  WM> should be able to handle either North American or European power.
  WM> Chances are whatever laptop you have is similar.  In that case all you
  WM> need is an adaptor to fit the different shaped plugs.  I've got a set
  WM> which I'll be happy to bring with me.  I'm arriving Saturday evening,
  WM> though I'm going to the Argonauts game so I probably won't be at the
  WM> hotel much until later in the evening.

and i have two sets of those universal plugs. radio shack sells them and
i bet most any decent electronics shop anywhere does too. these are
unpowered and just allow any plug and any socket via several plug
thingies. it is a set (of 4 i think) and not one piece.

another place to look for them are travel book/map stores. avoid the
airport ones as they will be crummier and more expensive. the standard
universal kit is made well but i have seen cheaper and crummier subsets
(one socket type to one plug type) too.

when i went to yapc::paris i was able to use my laptop with the
appropriate plug adapter as it has the standard universal voltage power
brick. but my wife's hairdryer needed a transformer type which i got in
the states. we plugged in the (stupid) round prongs and it worked but it
had no grip on the prongs (which are very inflixible :( ) so it fell out
of the socket (which was high on the wall) and it snapped off a prong of
the transformer thereby transforming it into a heavy lump of
uselessness.  i can't see anyway to repair such a broken prong as it was
molded into the body with a metal core. NA plugs have simpler flexible
blades which can bend and also get tightly gripped in the socket. so we
had to traipse all over paris onw afternoon trying to find a voltage
transformer. took a couple of wild goose trips (famous big department
store didn't have them but some other large store did) but we replaced
it and paid a lot more too.

so should i bring my plug conversion kits for any other euros? i arrive
sunday afternoon.

uri

-- 
Uri Guttman  ------  uri at stemsystems.com  -------- http://www.stemsystems.com
--Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding-
Search or Offer Perl Jobs  ----------------------------  http://jobs.perl.org

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 09:51:50 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:50 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <42BAE21C.4080205@mac.com> (James FitzGibbon's message of "Thu,
	23 Jun 2005 12:23:56 -0400")
References: <20050623151324.GN28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<42BAE21C.4080205@mac.com>
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>>>>> "JF" == James FitzGibbon <jf647 at mac.com> writes:

  JF> http://www.targus.com/ca/product_details.asp?sku=PA025C

that looks like a nice kit but note it is only connectors and plugs and
not voltage conversion. mine are just the power plugs. a neat trick is
you can connect all the plugs together into a single chain and then bag
them. then they won't rattle around and such and are easier to keep in a
drawer.

uri

-- 
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From waltman at pobox.com  Thu Jun 23 09:53:57 2005
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:53:57 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:47:19PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> when i went to yapc::paris i was able to use my laptop with the
> appropriate plug adapter as it has the standard universal voltage power
> brick. but my wife's hairdryer needed a transformer type which i got in
> the states. we plugged in the (stupid) round prongs and it worked but it
> had no grip on the prongs (which are very inflixible :( ) so it fell out
> of the socket (which was high on the wall) and it snapped off a prong of
> the transformer thereby transforming it into a heavy lump of
> uselessness.  i can't see anyway to repair such a broken prong as it was
> molded into the body with a metal core. NA plugs have simpler flexible
> blades which can bend and also get tightly gripped in the socket. so we
> had to traipse all over paris onw afternoon trying to find a voltage
> transformer. took a couple of wild goose trips (famous big department
> store didn't have them but some other large store did) but we replaced
> it and paid a lot more too.

At some point did you consider just buying a cheap 240V hairdryer?  Or
just letting her hair dry in what hear was a miserable heat wave?

Just wondering, that's all.... :)

Also many hotels in Europe that cater to North American travelers have
a 120V plug in their bathrooms just for situations like this.  OTOH, I
don't think I've ever seen a European plug in an American hotel
bathroom.  (Or maybe I just don't stay at those hotels in the
states...)

Walt
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From dan at sidhe.org  Thu Jun 23 09:58:35 2005
From: dan at sidhe.org (Dan Sugalski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:58:35 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Saturday evening train arrivals?
Message-ID: <a06230925bee099fa51b2@[192.168.0.8]>

Is anyone else taking the train into Toronto saturday night? The 
train's scheduled to get in about 7:45, customs willing, and I figure 
if there's anyone else we can get together and share a cab to the 
hotel.
-- 
				Dan

--------------------------------------it's like this-------------------
Dan Sugalski                          even samurai
dan at sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even
                                       teddy bears get drunk

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:07:59 2005
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:07:59 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623165357.GY11380@waltman.dnsalias.org> (Walt Mankowski's
	message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:53:57 -0400")
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>>>>> "WM" == Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com> writes:

  WM> At some point did you consider just buying a cheap 240V hairdryer?  Or
  WM> just letting her hair dry in what hear was a miserable heat wave?

we were there just before the heat wave but you aren't married so you
don't know how wives can be regarding hair dryers! :)

  WM> Also many hotels in Europe that cater to North American travelers have
  WM> a 120V plug in their bathrooms just for situations like this.  OTOH, I
  WM> don't think I've ever seen a European plug in an American hotel
  WM> bathroom.  (Or maybe I just don't stay at those hotels in the
  WM> states...)

we were very smart about our stay there. we rented a full apartment for
less than most of the yapc'ers paid for lousy hotel rooms (750 EU for
the week). we had cross ventilation at night and cool air. we actually
needed to use light blankets. and we also had a kitchen, bathtub, living
room and it came with a free cable modem net connection and the
boyfriend of the apartment dweller helped get my laptop online. it was
great surfing to find info about paris while IN paris. :)

but there was no 120 sockets for sure there.

btw voltage transformers come in different styles for power
reasons. there are low power ones for charging stuff and clocks and the
like. they can be on all the time and use little current. and then there
are the big bricks for hairdryers and other power hungry things. make
sure you check the power and time ratings when you buy voltage
converters.

uri

-- 
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--Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding-
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From sgriffit at gennum.com  Thu Jun 23 10:55:31 2005
From: sgriffit at gennum.com (Shaun Griffith)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:55:31 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.475.1119543794.16830.yapc@pm.org>
Message-ID: <00b301c5781c$c006dda0$c417005a@headoffice.gennum.com>

I've recently bought a Targus "complete" travel adapter set from Staples,
for about CDN$40. It's at home, or I could tell you if it has the North
American adapter.

-Shaun


From sgriffit at gennum.com  Thu Jun 23 11:48:03 2005
From: sgriffit at gennum.com (Shaun Griffith)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:48:03 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Saturday evening train arrivals?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.477.1119549339.16830.yapc@pm.org>
Message-ID: <00b601c57824$16990510$c417005a@headoffice.gennum.com>

Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Is anyone else taking the train into Toronto saturday night? The
> train's scheduled to get in about 7:45, customs willing, and I figure
> if there's anyone else we can get together and share a cab to the
> hotel.

Are you coming in at Union Station? Is walking an option? It's only about a
mile.



From waltman at pobox.com  Thu Jun 23 11:52:14 2005
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:52:14 -0400
Subject: [yapc] More on Power Plugs (and adaptors)
In-Reply-To: <20050623163643.GT28659@natura.di.uminho.pt>
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote:
> > In that case all you
> > need is an adaptor to fit the different shaped plugs.  I've got a set
> > which I'll be happy to bring with me.
> 
> Please do.

Oh, and if you get in early enough and want to take a walk to shake
off the jet lag, you should wander over to Active Surplus at 347 Queen
St. West, just a 10 minute or so walk from the hotel.  If they have
the adaptops you're looking for, they'll undoubtedly be dirt cheap.
And even if they don't, you'll probably find half a dozen other things
you need to buy. :)

> Well wouldn't you know... I'm going to the Argonauts game too! I guess
> we'll meet up there :-)

Excellent!

Walt
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From dan at sidhe.org  Thu Jun 23 12:04:33 2005
From: dan at sidhe.org (Dan Sugalski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:04:33 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Saturday evening train arrivals?
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At 2:48 PM -0400 6/23/05, Shaun Griffith wrote:
>Dan Sugalski wrote:
>>  Is anyone else taking the train into Toronto saturday night? The
>>  train's scheduled to get in about 7:45, customs willing, and I figure
>>  if there's anyone else we can get together and share a cab to the
>>  hotel.
>
>Are you coming in at Union Station? Is walking an option? It's only about a
>mile.

I'm coming into union station, yeah. Mapquest says .91 miles, which 
isn't at all far, but I figure at sometime approaching 8 PM after 
being on the train for 12 hours I may not be in the best condition to 
be hauling a suitcase a mile or so. Call me a wuss, but I figure it's 
worth planning to be lazy. :)
-- 
				Dan

--------------------------------------it's like this-------------------
Dan Sugalski                          even samurai
dan at sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even
                                       teddy bears get drunk

From robindarby at mac.com  Thu Jun 23 12:13:29 2005
From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:29 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Saturday evening train arrivals?
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On 23 Jun 2005, at 15:04, Dan Sugalski wrote:

> At 2:48 PM -0400 6/23/05, Shaun Griffith wrote:
>
>> Dan Sugalski wrote:
>>
>>>  Is anyone else taking the train into Toronto saturday night? The
>>>  train's scheduled to get in about 7:45, customs willing, and I  
>>> figure
>>>  if there's anyone else we can get together and share a cab to the
>>>  hotel.
>>>
>>
>> Are you coming in at Union Station? Is walking an option? It's  
>> only about a
>> mile.
>>
>
> I'm coming into union station, yeah. Mapquest says .91 miles, which
> isn't at all far, but I figure at sometime approaching 8 PM after
> being on the train for 12 hours I may not be in the best condition to
> be hauling a suitcase a mile or so. Call me a wuss, but I figure it's
> worth planning to be lazy. :)
> -- 
>                 Dan

FYI you could also get the tube thingy (yellow, er, 'Yonge- 
University' line) to 'St. Patrick' (slightly confusing since all tube- 
trains go north bound from there), $2.5 well spent in my book :)

Thanks
     Robin...


From dan at sidhe.org  Thu Jun 23 12:34:29 2005
From: dan at sidhe.org (Dan Sugalski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:34:29 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Saturday evening train arrivals?
In-Reply-To: <9BCAC458-0CA7-496A-815C-F08E81C5C53C@mac.com>
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At 3:13 PM -0400 6/23/05, Robin Darby wrote:
>On 23 Jun 2005, at 15:04, Dan Sugalski wrote:
>
>>At 2:48 PM -0400 6/23/05, Shaun Griffith wrote:
>>
>>>Dan Sugalski wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Is anyone else taking the train into Toronto saturday night? The
>>>>  train's scheduled to get in about 7:45, customs willing, and I figure
>>>>  if there's anyone else we can get together and share a cab to the
>>>>  hotel.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Are you coming in at Union Station? Is walking an option? It's only about a
>>>mile.
>>>
>>
>>I'm coming into union station, yeah. Mapquest says .91 miles, which
>>isn't at all far, but I figure at sometime approaching 8 PM after
>>being on the train for 12 hours I may not be in the best condition to
>>be hauling a suitcase a mile or so. Call me a wuss, but I figure it's
>>worth planning to be lazy. :)
>
>FYI you could also get the tube thingy (yellow, er, 
>'Yonge-University' line) to 'St. Patrick' (slightly confusing since 
>all tube-trains go north bound from there), $2.5 well spent in my 
>book :)

Which looks like quite the plan -- thanks. Now I can be lazy *and* 
cheap. Woohoo! :)
-- 
				Dan

--------------------------------------it's like this-------------------
Dan Sugalski                          even samurai
dan at sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even
                                       teddy bears get drunk

From waltman at pobox.com  Thu Jun 23 13:11:05 2005
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:11:05 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Saturday evening train arrivals?
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 03:34:29PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> At 3:13 PM -0400 6/23/05, Robin Darby wrote:
> >On 23 Jun 2005, at 15:04, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> >
> >>At 2:48 PM -0400 6/23/05, Shaun Griffith wrote:
> >>
> >>>Dan Sugalski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  Is anyone else taking the train into Toronto saturday night? The
> >>>>  train's scheduled to get in about 7:45, customs willing, and I figure
> >>>>  if there's anyone else we can get together and share a cab to the
> >>>>  hotel.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Are you coming in at Union Station? Is walking an option? It's only about a
> >>>mile.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I'm coming into union station, yeah. Mapquest says .91 miles, which
> >>isn't at all far, but I figure at sometime approaching 8 PM after
> >>being on the train for 12 hours I may not be in the best condition to
> >>be hauling a suitcase a mile or so. Call me a wuss, but I figure it's
> >>worth planning to be lazy. :)
> >
> >FYI you could also get the tube thingy (yellow, er, 
> >'Yonge-University' line) to 'St. Patrick' (slightly confusing since 
> >all tube-trains go north bound from there), $2.5 well spent in my 
> >book :)
> 
> Which looks like quite the plan -- thanks. Now I can be lazy *and* 
> cheap. Woohoo! :)

Of course, for 2 people going 0.91 miles, the cab fare might end up
running less than $2.50 a person... :)

Walt
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From Parker at siam.org  Sun Jun 26 10:40:35 2005
From: Parker at siam.org (Jim Parker)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:40:35 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Need a laser printer for auction cards
Message-ID: <04FCAACB98219E418827A2D6AA25938E31938C@sus302.siam.org>


Howdy, folks.

We need cards to identify bidders in the auction.

This will make it easier to use Geoff's program 
and record the big spenders.

I have the paper, and the ability to make the 
numbers, but need access to something like a 
laser printer to print out 250 or 300 sheets. 
Preferably today (Sunday) or during 
a break in the conference before Tuesday night. 
Anyone have the resource? In Toronto?

I'm in room 549 of 89 Chestnut.

Thanks,

Jim Parker
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From oneill.bob at grantstreet.com  Mon Jun 27 04:57:11 2005
From: oneill.bob at grantstreet.com (Bob O'Neill)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:57:11 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Job BOF
Message-ID: <42BFE997.5060603@grantstreet.com>

I added a Job BOF to the Wiki to follow the Tuesday talks.

If you are looking for a job or you work for a company who is looking
for talent, come to this BOF to network and exchange resumes. This is
the safe harbor for shameless self promoting and recruiting, without the
awkwardness of involving people who aren't interested.

Organizers: can we use one of the lecture rooms at 5pm on Tuesday or
are they locked down at 4:45?

-Bob



From Parker at siam.org  Mon Jun 27 10:26:05 2005
From: Parker at siam.org (Jim Parker)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:26:05 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Need a laser printer for auction cards
Message-ID: <04FCAACB98219E418827A2D6AA25938E31938E@sus302.siam.org>

This problem appears to be solved.

Thanks,

Jim Parker


-----Original Message-----
From: yapc-bounces at pm.org on behalf of Jim Parker
Sent: Sun 6/26/2005 1:40 PM
To: yapc at mail.pm.org
Subject: [yapc] Need a laser printer for auction cards
 

Howdy, folks.

We need cards to identify bidders in the auction.

This will make it easier to use Geoff's program 
and record the big spenders.

I have the paper, and the ability to make the 
numbers, but need access to something like a 
laser printer to print out 250 or 300 sheets. 
Preferably today (Sunday) or during 
a break in the conference before Tuesday night. 
Anyone have the resource? In Toronto?

I'm in room 549 of 89 Chestnut.

Thanks,

Jim Parker

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From magog at the-wire.com  Mon Jun 27 11:36:36 2005
From: magog at the-wire.com (Michael Graham)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:36:36 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Job BOF
In-Reply-To: <42BFE997.5060603@grantstreet.com>
References: <42BFE997.5060603@grantstreet.com>
Message-ID: <20050627143627.65EF.MAGOG@the-wire.com>


> Organizers: can we use one of the lecture rooms at 5pm on Tuesday or
> are they locked down at 4:45?

Technically, we only have the rooms until 4:45.  You might be able to
stay in them later, but there's no guarantee that they will be
available after the talks end.

As an alternate idea, each floor on the hotel does have some common
rooms (accessible to people staying in rooms on that floor) - you
might try one of those.


Michael


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