<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Can't believe no one has mentioned Emacs!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Andrew</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Long time Emacs user!<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 26/06/2017, at 9:00 AM, Sam Crawley <<a href="mailto:sam@crawley.nz">sam@crawley.nz</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Another vote for Eclipse + EPIC.<br><br></div>I don't actually use many of the "big" IDE features (e.g. debugger), but a few of the smaller ones I find invaluable. Syntax checking is a big one (although there can be some limitations if you have a complex library setup), as well as making it easy to navigation through large projects. I know vim and others *can* be set up to do this, but Eclipse does it all by default, plus I'm used to it.<br><br></div>Never really had performance issues with it (on Linux).<br><br></div>Sam.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 June 2017 at 08:48, Steve Piner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Steve.Piner@signify.co.nz" target="_blank">Steve.Piner@signify.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I like Eclipse with EPIC for Perl work. Key features for me: easy
reformat with PerlTidy, Perl::Critic annotation, and the debugger.
Function completion is nice when it works, but it doesn't seem to
work that often.<br>
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<p>I have seen Eclipse become unresponsive from time to time, and it
is quite heavy on the memory. I still prefer it over the text
editors I've tried (Atom, Code).<br>
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<p>Steve<br>
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<div class="m_1025713751083412475moz-cite-prefix">On 24/06/17 11:25, Florent Mara wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">After Komodo and Kate, I am now using Sublime.
<div>Komodo does a lot but changes regularly and one of the
updates broke the mini-map so I moved onto Kate and never
looked back. <br>
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<div>Kate / Sublime are 'powerful text editors' for me. Probably
not too dissimilar to notepad++. Sublime seems to be very
configurable - providing you have the time - and has Perl
specific plugins available. </div>
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<div>IntelliJ is used quite a lot around me for Perl or others.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Dan
Horne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dan.horne@redbone.co.nz" target="_blank">dan.horne@redbone.co.nz</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm one of those rare people who prefers an
IDE. At my current workplace I use Notepad++, but that's
because I'm not allowed to install software myself, and
development isn't my primary job anymore. I love Komodo
and the debugger. Stepping through code, setting
breakpoints and inspecting variables is much more
preferable to the way I work than scattering print
statements. I have identified bugs in CPAN modules because
I step through all code, and not having to sprinkle print
in other's code is a bonus.
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<div>The downsides: it's not cheap. ActiveState keeps
changing the UI and this throws me with each update.
Once I find a way of navigating and working I don't want
to change. I've actually downgraded to v7 because that's
the UI I prefer and I see no reason to upgrade again.</div>
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<div>The upsides for me, besides the debugger integration.
It's multi-language, multi-platform (I use Linux, Mac
and Windows) and I can add macros that can be invoked
with keystrokes such as formatting my code with Perl
Tidy. It integrates with source control, can save
remotely (via SSH), identifies syntax errors in real
time. As I said, I prefer to use an old version, but
there are a host of newer features in the latest version
(<a href="https://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/features" target="_blank">https://www.activestate.com/k<wbr>omodo-ide/features</a>)</div>
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<div>I won't include screenshots - you see them in the
ActiveState site, and you can download a trial from
there.</div>
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<div>P.S. On a side note, I used Xarka's OptiPerl 15 years
ago when I was working in the UK. It's Windows only, and
I doubt it's been updated since then. But it will have
all the features you'd probably ever want, including
realtime syntax checking, and debugging. Plus it's only
US$39 for a personal licence. <a href="http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html" target="_blank">http://www.xarka.com/<wbr>optiperl/features.html</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On 23 June 2017 at
21:35, Peter Kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:perlmonger@pck.co.nz" target="_blank">perlmonger@pck.co.nz</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi mongers,
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<div>Could we have a round-the-room about IDEs?<br>
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<div>But as I sit here this balmy winter
night, I find myself reading through <a href="http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1137488" target="_blank">http://www.perlmonks.o<wbr>rg/?node_id=1137488</a> which
talks about integrated debugging in an IDE.<br>
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<div>I do my Perl coding mostly in Windows
this month for bizarre reasons, such as that
I can't get Linux to drive my 4K monitor on
my hardware. I use Notepad++, which
highlights most keywords nicely and offers
variable auto-completion. But it doesn't
have Perl debugger integration.</div>
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<div>I see from that comment that Eclipe is
supposed to be the answer to the maiden's
prayer. I haven't forgiven it yet for being
a dog more than a decade ago.</div>
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<div>Padre appears to be a dead duck - there
is no activity on the IRC archives, or
mailing list, and it won't compile from
CPAN.</div>
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<div>I note a mention of the topic from Grant
in his list message of <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:27:27</span></div>
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<div>Would it be annoying if I asked people to
share a screen-shot of their IDE? </div>
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<div>On an unrelated note, is there any easy
way to localise (deep-copy) an array of
hashes?<span class="m_1025713751083412475m_-961985844657098028HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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