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<p>Emacs? Is that the thing with all the brackets? 8-)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Cliff</p>
<p>PS I've used Eclipse with various languages. That's the big thing
for me - just one IDE to learn across various languages. Then
again I've used command line debuggers at times. But I'm not a big
coder.<br>
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<p>C.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/06/17 14:26, Andrew Maguire
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<div>Can't believe no one has mentioned Emacs!</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Long time Emacs user!<br>
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On 26/06/2017, at 9:00 AM, Sam Crawley <<a
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<div>Another vote for Eclipse + EPIC.<br>
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I don't actually use many of the "big" IDE features
(e.g. debugger), but a few of the smaller ones I find
invaluable. Syntax checking is a big one (although there
can be some limitations if you have a complex library
setup), as well as making it easy to navigation through
large projects. I know vim and others *can* be set up to
do this, but Eclipse does it all by default, plus I'm
used to it.<br>
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Never really had performance issues with it (on Linux).<br>
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Sam.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 June 2017 at 08:48, Steve
Piner <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:Steve.Piner@signify.co.nz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Steve.Piner@signify.co.nz</a>></span>
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<p>I like Eclipse with EPIC for Perl work. Key
features for me: easy reformat with PerlTidy,
Perl::Critic annotation, and the debugger. Function
completion is nice when it works, but it doesn't
seem to work that often.<br>
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moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.epic-ide.org/</a></p>
<p>I have seen Eclipse become unresponsive from time
to time, and it is quite heavy on the memory. I
still prefer it over the text editors I've tried
(Atom, Code).<br>
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<p>Steve<br>
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<div class="m_1025713751083412475moz-cite-prefix">On
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<div dir="ltr">After Komodo and Kate, I am now
using Sublime.
<div>Komodo does a lot but changes regularly
and one of the updates broke the mini-map so
I moved onto Kate and never looked back. <br>
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<div>Kate / Sublime are 'powerful text
editors' for me. Probably not too dissimilar
to notepad++. Sublime seems to be very
configurable - providing you have the time -
and has Perl specific plugins available. </div>
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<div>IntelliJ is used quite a lot around me
for Perl or others. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 24, 2017
at 4:37 AM, Dan Horne <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:dan.horne@redbone.co.nz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dan.horne@redbone.co.nz</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm one of those rare
people who prefers an IDE. At my current
workplace I use Notepad++, but that's
because I'm not allowed to install
software myself, and development isn't
my primary job anymore. I love Komodo
and the debugger. Stepping through code,
setting breakpoints and inspecting
variables is much more preferable to the
way I work than scattering print
statements. I have identified bugs in
CPAN modules because I step through all
code, and not having to sprinkle print
in other's code is a bonus.
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<div>The downsides: it's not cheap.
ActiveState keeps changing the UI and
this throws me with each update. Once
I find a way of navigating and working
I don't want to change. I've actually
downgraded to v7 because that's the UI
I prefer and I see no reason to
upgrade again.</div>
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<div>The upsides for me, besides the
debugger integration. It's
multi-language, multi-platform (I use
Linux, Mac and Windows) and I can add
macros that can be invoked with
keystrokes such as formatting my code
with Perl Tidy. It integrates with
source control, can save remotely (via
SSH), identifies syntax errors in real
time. As I said, I prefer to use an
old version, but there are a host of
newer features in the latest version (<a
href="https://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/features" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.activestate.com/k<wbr>omodo-ide/features</a>)</div>
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<div>I won't include screenshots - you
see them in the ActiveState site, and
you can download a trial from there.</div>
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<div>Dan</div>
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<div>P.S. On a side note, I used Xarka's
OptiPerl 15 years ago when I was
working in the UK. It's Windows only,
and I doubt it's been updated since
then. But it will have all the
features you'd probably ever want,
including realtime syntax checking,
and debugging. Plus it's only US$39
for a personal licence. <a
href="http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.xarka.com/<wbr>optiperl/features.html</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On 23
June 2017 at 21:35, Peter Kelly <span
dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:perlmonger@pck.co.nz"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">perlmonger@pck.co.nz</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi mongers,
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<div>Could we have a
round-the-room about IDEs?<br>
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<div>But as I sit here this
balmy winter night, I find
myself reading through <a
href="http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1137488" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.perlmonks.o<wbr>rg/?node_id=1137488</a> which
talks about integrated
debugging in an IDE.<br>
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<div>I do my Perl coding
mostly in Windows this
month for bizarre reasons,
such as that I can't get
Linux to drive my 4K
monitor on my hardware. I
use Notepad++, which
highlights most keywords
nicely and offers variable
auto-completion. But it
doesn't have Perl debugger
integration.</div>
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<div>I see from that comment
that Eclipe is supposed to
be the answer to the
maiden's prayer. I
haven't forgiven it yet
for being a dog more than
a decade ago.</div>
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<div>Padre appears to be a
dead duck - there is no
activity on the IRC
archives, or mailing list,
and it won't compile from
CPAN.</div>
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<div>I note a mention of the
topic from Grant in his
list message of <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:27:27</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></div>
<div>Would it be annoying if
I asked people to share a
screen-shot of their IDE?
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is there any easy way to
localise (deep-copy) an
array of hashes?<span
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