From grant at mclean.net.nz  Tue Sep  2 15:17:11 2014
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 10:17:11 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
Message-ID: <1409696231.3264.19.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>

Hi Mongers

The next meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers will be next Tuesday the 9th
of September:

    6:00pm Tuesday 9 September 2014
    Level 3, Catalyst House
    150 Willis Street
    Wellington

Raf is going to do his Moose Testing talk at the October meeting so we
don't have any talks scheduled for this month yet.  Let me know if you'd
like to speak.

In other news ...

NZ's annual Python conference 'Kiwi Pycon' is being held in Wellington
this year from Fri Sep 12th to Sun the 14th (just over a week away).  At
$100 a ticket it's a bargain and they have even cheaper prices for
students.

On Friday evening (the 12th) there will be a 'Codewars' event at the
conference.  This is a fun, team-based programming competition (Python
not compulsory) and since they asked me to organise it, I'm reusing the
'HackOff' format previously used at Wellington.pm and LCA.  More details
here:

  http://kiwi.pycon.org/events/codewars/

Hopefully we'll see some of you at Pycon and Codewars.

Cheers
Grant



From florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz  Wed Sep  3 19:09:43 2014
From: florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz (Florent Mara)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:09:43 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Round-up of last night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <1407891298.5476.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
References: <1407891298.5476.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
Message-ID: <CAEoGj=iqW8Rq=KkwyWm-ZYde0D4emj_bsAsXz2oNiF+uWagG5g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mongers,
Seeing the email for next week's meeting reminded me about not commenting
on last month's meeting.
First, many thanks for having a talk about Moose ... and for waiting for me
to be present. Much appreciated.

As I had jetlag induced 'slow(-er) brain' during the talk, I abstained from
asking potentially silly questions and was hoping to got through the slides
once they had become available online.

Anyhow, I took away the following from the talk
-> my project may not yet make enough use of Moose/object orientation in
Perl. I may even be largely using Moose wrong as I rarely define or use
objects properties. Moose is merely used to make method access simpler.
-> I was familiar with (and not keen on ...) AspectJ in Java. It was quite
a disappointment to see the construct available through MooseX::Aspect. But
I am re-assured to often read that it is good for logging and debugging ...
and not for, say, core feature implementation.
-> Attempts to use Moo failed. (and I didn't look into it, just added 2
more letters to the package call)
-> Several code snippets called a package for Moose best practice (?) or
maybe I was day dreaming. If it was, I can't seem to find any such package
on CPAN. A pointer would be much appreciated.

That is all I can remember and I am looking forward to next week's talkj.

Cheers,
Florent

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Grant McLean <grant at mclean.net.nz> wrote:

> Hi Mongers
>
> Thank you to Raf and Olly for two interesting talks last night.  I'll
> put slides up on the web site if/when I receive them.
>
> Further to Raf's Moose talk, the 'Moose Manual' ships with Moose but is
> also available online:
>
>   https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Moose/lib/Moose/Manual.pod
>
> Further to Olly's talk/discussion, I referenced the API for the Lucy
> search tool which is described here:
>
>   https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Lucy/lib/Lucy.pod
>
> There's also documentation for the Lucy::Search::Hits results iterator
> class, but it doesn't do much more than provide a ->next() method that
> returns either a hashref describing the next document or undef at the
> end of the resultset.
>
> The next meeting will be on September the 9th.  Raf has volunteered to
> talk about Test::Routine and I'd be delighted to hear from anyone else
> who wishes to speak.
>
> Cheers
> Grant
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm
>



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From grant at mclean.net.nz  Mon Sep  8 20:17:40 2014
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:17:40 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Reminder: meeting tonight
Message-ID: <1410232660.3452.34.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>

Hi Mongers

The September meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers is on this evening at
the usual place and time:

    http://wellington.pm.org/

I have not been inundated with offers to speak so we'll have to wing it.
I thought I could continue on the Moose theme from last month and
resurrect a talk I did about Moose Roles.  Other contributions are
welcome.

See you there.
Grant


From tai at pplus.co.nz  Mon Sep  8 21:02:52 2014
From: tai at pplus.co.nz (Tai Paul)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:02:52 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <1409696231.3264.19.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
References: <1409696231.3264.19.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
Message-ID: <001001cfcbe2$edaf4d90$c90de8b0$@co.nz>

Hello Mongers,

Although I'm not available tonight I'm happy to do a talk for the
October/November meeting.  The talk would not be specifically on Perl and
would be aimed at your general approach to programming which I imagine you
may find enlightening.

Amongst one of many things I spent time learning on my life's journey was
about how to debug the brain.  If you've ever found yourself hitting
programmer's block, or analysis paralysis then you might find this talk will
cause you to lift your ability as a programmer. 

I'd be happy to do an introductory talk titled something like 'Debugging the
Brain' or 'Fixing The "Real" Computer' or perhaps 'Tuning Where it Really
Counts'.

Think about it this way.  Before a bug can make it into a program that
you've written, or a deadline is missed, or you over promise and under
deliver, or even under promise and over deliver, ... you must have thought
something.  Now just talking about bugs, if you regularly face the same
types of bugs, or the same number of bugs, or you experience that same and
familiar feeling of uncertainty whilst writing your program then there's a
bug in your mental process.
 
In the session you would hear about some models of thinking and how you can
track down these bugs (perhaps you can call them thoughts or habits or
beliefs or limiting decisions) and you can learn one (of many) techniques to
change it, possibly even eliminate it forever.

If this sounds like something that would, if not life changing, be something
you'd like to know more about then let me know by reply and I'll put
something together.

Thanks for considering this thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wellington-pm [mailto:wellington-pm-bounces+tai=pplus.co.nz at pm.org] On
Behalf Of Grant McLean
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:17 a.m.
To: Wellington Perl Mongers
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday

Hi Mongers

The next meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers will be next Tuesday the 9th of
September:

    6:00pm Tuesday 9 September 2014
    Level 3, Catalyst House
    150 Willis Street
    Wellington

Raf is going to do his Moose Testing talk at the October meeting so we don't
have any talks scheduled for this month yet.  Let me know if you'd like to
speak.

In other news ...

NZ's annual Python conference 'Kiwi Pycon' is being held in Wellington this
year from Fri Sep 12th to Sun the 14th (just over a week away).  At
$100 a ticket it's a bargain and they have even cheaper prices for students.

On Friday evening (the 12th) there will be a 'Codewars' event at the
conference.  This is a fun, team-based programming competition (Python not
compulsory) and since they asked me to organise it, I'm reusing the
'HackOff' format previously used at Wellington.pm and LCA.  More details
here:

  http://kiwi.pycon.org/events/codewars/

Hopefully we'll see some of you at Pycon and Codewars.

Cheers
Grant


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http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm


From grant at mclean.net.nz  Mon Sep  8 21:16:29 2014
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:16:29 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <001001cfcbe2$edaf4d90$c90de8b0$@co.nz>
References: <1409696231.3264.19.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
	<001001cfcbe2$edaf4d90$c90de8b0$@co.nz>
Message-ID: <1410236189.3452.36.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>

Hi Tai

Sounds great - if you can be ready for October I can fit you in :-)

Cheers
Grant

On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 16:02 +1200, Tai Paul wrote:
> Hello Mongers,
> 
> Although I'm not available tonight I'm happy to do a talk for the
> October/November meeting.  The talk would not be specifically on Perl and
> would be aimed at your general approach to programming which I imagine you
> may find enlightening.
> 
> Amongst one of many things I spent time learning on my life's journey was
> about how to debug the brain.  If you've ever found yourself hitting
> programmer's block, or analysis paralysis then you might find this talk will
> cause you to lift your ability as a programmer. 
> 
> I'd be happy to do an introductory talk titled something like 'Debugging the
> Brain' or 'Fixing The "Real" Computer' or perhaps 'Tuning Where it Really
> Counts'.
> 
> Think about it this way.  Before a bug can make it into a program that
> you've written, or a deadline is missed, or you over promise and under
> deliver, or even under promise and over deliver, ... you must have thought
> something.  Now just talking about bugs, if you regularly face the same
> types of bugs, or the same number of bugs, or you experience that same and
> familiar feeling of uncertainty whilst writing your program then there's a
> bug in your mental process.
>  
> In the session you would hear about some models of thinking and how you can
> track down these bugs (perhaps you can call them thoughts or habits or
> beliefs or limiting decisions) and you can learn one (of many) techniques to
> change it, possibly even eliminate it forever.
> 
> If this sounds like something that would, if not life changing, be something
> you'd like to know more about then let me know by reply and I'll put
> something together.
> 
> Thanks for considering this thought.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wellington-pm [mailto:wellington-pm-bounces+tai=pplus.co.nz at pm.org] On
> Behalf Of Grant McLean
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:17 a.m.
> To: Wellington Perl Mongers
> Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
> 
> Hi Mongers
> 
> The next meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers will be next Tuesday the 9th of
> September:
> 
>     6:00pm Tuesday 9 September 2014
>     Level 3, Catalyst House
>     150 Willis Street
>     Wellington
> 
> Raf is going to do his Moose Testing talk at the October meeting so we don't
> have any talks scheduled for this month yet.  Let me know if you'd like to
> speak.
> 
> In other news ...
> 
> NZ's annual Python conference 'Kiwi Pycon' is being held in Wellington this
> year from Fri Sep 12th to Sun the 14th (just over a week away).  At
> $100 a ticket it's a bargain and they have even cheaper prices for students.
> 
> On Friday evening (the 12th) there will be a 'Codewars' event at the
> conference.  This is a fun, team-based programming competition (Python not
> compulsory) and since they asked me to organise it, I'm reusing the
> 'HackOff' format previously used at Wellington.pm and LCA.  More details
> here:
> 
>   http://kiwi.pycon.org/events/codewars/
> 
> Hopefully we'll see some of you at Pycon and Codewars.
> 
> Cheers
> Grant
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wellington-pm mailing list
> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wellington-pm mailing list
> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm



From tai at pplus.co.nz  Mon Sep  8 21:25:50 2014
From: tai at pplus.co.nz (Tai Paul)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:25:50 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <1410236189.3452.36.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
References: <1409696231.3264.19.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>	<001001cfcbe2$edaf4d90$c90de8b0$@co.nz>
	<1410236189.3452.36.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
Message-ID: <001101cfcbe6$233f6eb0$69be4c10$@co.nz>

Roger that.  Pencil me in.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wellington-pm [mailto:wellington-pm-bounces+tai=pplus.co.nz at pm.org] On
Behalf Of Grant McLean
Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2014 4:16 p.m.
To: wellington-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday

Hi Tai

Sounds great - if you can be ready for October I can fit you in :-)

Cheers
Grant

On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 16:02 +1200, Tai Paul wrote:
> Hello Mongers,
> 
> Although I'm not available tonight I'm happy to do a talk for the 
> October/November meeting.  The talk would not be specifically on Perl 
> and would be aimed at your general approach to programming which I 
> imagine you may find enlightening.
> 
> Amongst one of many things I spent time learning on my life's journey 
> was about how to debug the brain.  If you've ever found yourself 
> hitting programmer's block, or analysis paralysis then you might find 
> this talk will cause you to lift your ability as a programmer.
> 
> I'd be happy to do an introductory talk titled something like 
> 'Debugging the Brain' or 'Fixing The "Real" Computer' or perhaps 
> 'Tuning Where it Really Counts'.
> 
> Think about it this way.  Before a bug can make it into a program that 
> you've written, or a deadline is missed, or you over promise and under 
> deliver, or even under promise and over deliver, ... you must have 
> thought something.  Now just talking about bugs, if you regularly face 
> the same types of bugs, or the same number of bugs, or you experience 
> that same and familiar feeling of uncertainty whilst writing your 
> program then there's a bug in your mental process.
>  
> In the session you would hear about some models of thinking and how 
> you can track down these bugs (perhaps you can call them thoughts or 
> habits or beliefs or limiting decisions) and you can learn one (of 
> many) techniques to change it, possibly even eliminate it forever.
> 
> If this sounds like something that would, if not life changing, be 
> something you'd like to know more about then let me know by reply and 
> I'll put something together.
> 
> Thanks for considering this thought.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wellington-pm 
> [mailto:wellington-pm-bounces+tai=pplus.co.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of 
> Grant McLean
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:17 a.m.
> To: Wellington Perl Mongers
> Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
> 
> Hi Mongers
> 
> The next meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers will be next Tuesday the 
> 9th of
> September:
> 
>     6:00pm Tuesday 9 September 2014
>     Level 3, Catalyst House
>     150 Willis Street
>     Wellington
> 
> Raf is going to do his Moose Testing talk at the October meeting so we 
> don't have any talks scheduled for this month yet.  Let me know if 
> you'd like to speak.
> 
> In other news ...
> 
> NZ's annual Python conference 'Kiwi Pycon' is being held in Wellington 
> this year from Fri Sep 12th to Sun the 14th (just over a week away).  
> At
> $100 a ticket it's a bargain and they have even cheaper prices for
students.
> 
> On Friday evening (the 12th) there will be a 'Codewars' event at the 
> conference.  This is a fun, team-based programming competition (Python 
> not
> compulsory) and since they asked me to organise it, I'm reusing the 
> 'HackOff' format previously used at Wellington.pm and LCA.  More 
> details
> here:
> 
>   http://kiwi.pycon.org/events/codewars/
> 
> Hopefully we'll see some of you at Pycon and Codewars.
> 
> Cheers
> Grant
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wellington-pm mailing list
> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wellington-pm mailing list
> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm


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From douglas at halo.gen.nz  Sun Sep 14 19:00:11 2014
From: douglas at halo.gen.nz (Douglas Bagnall)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:00:11 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] an RNN talk
Message-ID: <5416482B.1050009@halo.gen.nz>


I have a talk called "Some things you can do with a recurrent neural
network" that I really ought to practice before January. Would Perl
Mongers be interested in that?

The Perl angle is that one of the things you can do with a recurrent
neural network is generate perl scripts.

Douglas

From grant at mclean.net.nz  Sun Sep 14 19:09:45 2014
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:09:45 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] an RNN talk
In-Reply-To: <5416482B.1050009@halo.gen.nz>
References: <5416482B.1050009@halo.gen.nz>
Message-ID: <1410746985.4078.4.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>

I'm definitely interested, Perl connection or not :-)

I think our timetable is full for the October meeting but we can fit you
in in November.

Cheers
Grant

On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 14:00 +1200, Douglas Bagnall wrote:
> I have a talk called "Some things you can do with a recurrent neural
> network" that I really ought to practice before January. Would Perl
> Mongers be interested in that?
> 
> The Perl angle is that one of the things you can do with a recurrent
> neural network is generate perl scripts.
> 
> Douglas
> _______________________________________________
> Wellington-pm mailing list
> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm



From douglas at halo.gen.nz  Sun Sep 14 22:02:45 2014
From: douglas at halo.gen.nz (Douglas Bagnall)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:02:45 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] an RNN talk
In-Reply-To: <1410746985.4078.4.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
References: <5416482B.1050009@halo.gen.nz>
	<1410746985.4078.4.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
Message-ID: <541672F5.3010301@halo.gen.nz>

Good. November it is.

Douglas

On 15/09/14 14:09, Grant McLean wrote:
> I'm definitely interested, Perl connection or not :-)
> 
> I think our timetable is full for the October meeting but we can fit you
> in in November.
> 
> Cheers
> Grant
> 
> On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 14:00 +1200, Douglas Bagnall wrote:
>> I have a talk called "Some things you can do with a recurrent neural
>> network" that I really ought to practice before January. Would Perl
>> Mongers be interested in that?
>>
>> The Perl angle is that one of the things you can do with a recurrent
>> neural network is generate perl scripts.
>>
>> Douglas
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wellington-pm mailing list
>> Wellington-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wellington-pm mailing list
> Wellington-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm
>