From grant at mclean.net.nz Wed Apr 1 14:46:59 2009 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:46:59 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next week Message-ID: <1238622419.4948.7.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Hi Mongers As you may recall, the question was raised as to whether we wanted to run with our normal schedule and meet the Tuesday immediately after Easter or move the meeting a week. The decision hung on the question of who was going to do a talk and when would suit them. I'm delighted to announce that Martyn Smith has volunteered to talk about a Perl shell he's been building. Martyn can't make it on the 14th so the meeting is now scheduled for the 7th (which is next Tuesday). There will be at least one other speaker. Will it be you? Let me know if you'd like to volunteer. Short talks welcome too. Reply to me to book a slot Usual time and place: 6:00pm Tuesday 7 April 2008 Level 3, Catalyst House 150 Willis Street Wellington http://wellington.pm.org/ Cheers Grant From lrw at clear.net.nz Thu Apr 2 21:28:59 2009 From: lrw at clear.net.nz (Lesley Longhurst) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:28:59 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] System admin jobs at Opus Message-ID: <49D5908B.7000205@clear.net.nz> Just a heads-up in case anyone's looking for work, we're advertising for a senior Linux admin. We currently manage about 100 Debian servers, and use Perl to do a goodly chunk of it. We're also looking for a second person who need not be quite so senior as described in the ad. Sorry for the horrible URL. :-( http://recruitment.opusinternational.com/detail.aspx?jobId=73016&CoId=1942&rq=2 -- Lesley Longhurst (previously Walker) Linux Systems Administrator Opus International Consultants Ltd Email lesley.longhurst at opus.co.nz Tel +64 4 471 7002, Fax +64 4 473 3017 http://www.opus.co.nz Level 9 Majestic Centre, 100 Willis Street, PO Box 12 343 Wellington, New Zealand From grant at mclean.net.nz Sun Apr 5 16:02:51 2009 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:02:51 +1200 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting tomorrow evening Message-ID: <1238972571.25615.18.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Hi Mongers Just a quick reminder ... the April meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers is tomorrow evening at the usual place and time: 6:00pm Tuesday 7 April 2008 Level 3, Catalyst House 150 Willis Street Wellington http://wellington.pm.org/ * Martyn Smith will be talking about a Perl shell he's been building. * Grant McLean will be talking about his recent adventures with encodings and building a CPAN distribution. Possibly another short topic too if he gets organised in time. Cheers Grant From grant at mclean.net.nz Tue Apr 7 15:25:31 2009 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:25:31 +1200 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Roundup of Last Night's Meeting Message-ID: <1239143131.1710.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Hi Mongers Thanks to Martyn for an interesting talk and thanks to everyone for the 'robust peer review' that both talks received. The slides from my talk are up on the web site now: http://wellington.pm.org/archive/ No doubt Martyn will be posting the URL of his Perl shell repo shortly. The next meeting will be on Tuesday the 12th of May. If you volunteer to speak, then you'll have over a month to get yourself organised. Cheers Grant From martyn at catalyst.net.nz Tue Apr 7 15:27:32 2009 From: martyn at catalyst.net.nz (Martyn Smith) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:27:32 +1200 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Roundup of Last Night's Meeting In-Reply-To: <1239143131.1710.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <1239143131.1710.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <20090407222732.GH5812@flange.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> I'm stupidly busy at the moment, but worst case when public holidays start on Friday I'll sort it all out and post some links here :-) (HONEST!) On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:25:31AM +1200, Grant McLean wrote: > Hi Mongers > > Thanks to Martyn for an interesting talk and thanks to everyone for the > 'robust peer review' that both talks received. > > The slides from my talk are up on the web site now: > > http://wellington.pm.org/archive/ > > No doubt Martyn will be posting the URL of his Perl shell repo shortly. > > The next meeting will be on Tuesday the 12th of May. If you volunteer > to speak, then you'll have over a month to get yourself organised. > > Cheers > Grant > > _______________________________________________ > Wellington-pm mailing list > Wellington-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm > -- Martyn Smith Senior Developer Catalyst IT http://www.catalyst.net.nz DDI: +64 4 802 0420 Mail: martyn at catalyst.net.nz From martyn at catalyst.net.nz Fri Apr 10 20:05:44 2009 From: martyn at catalyst.net.nz (Martyn Smith) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:05:44 +1200 Subject: [Wellington-pm] pii - perl interactive interpreter Message-ID: <20090411030544.GJ4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> Okay, so I fixed up the few really obvious bugs, and made it run on 5.8 with no deps (hopefully). You can head over to http://dollyfish.net.nz/projects/pii to have a look, but all that you probably really want to do to try it is: wget -Opii 'http://git.dollyfish.net.nz/?p=pii;a=blob_plain;f=pii;hb=master' chmod +x pii Any feedback/bugs/complaints welcome :-) also, I'm going to try produce some sort of useful slide things to put on the website now :-) From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Apr 10 22:22:59 2009 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:22:59 +1000 Subject: [Wellington-pm] pii - perl interactive interpreter In-Reply-To: <20090411030544.GJ4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> (Martyn Smith's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:05:44 +1200") References: <20090411030544.GJ4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> Message-ID: <873acfwyq4.fsf@rimspace.net> Martyn Smith writes: > Okay, so I fixed up the few really obvious bugs, and made it run on > 5.8 with no deps (hopefully). Is there any reason than Devel::REPL isn't better suited to your needs? Granted, not dependency free, but is that /really/ such a critical issue? Regards, Daniel From martyn at catalyst.net.nz Fri Apr 10 23:23:32 2009 From: martyn at catalyst.net.nz (Martyn Smith) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:23:32 +1200 Subject: [Wellington-pm] pii - perl interactive interpreter In-Reply-To: <873acfwyq4.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <20090411030544.GJ4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> <873acfwyq4.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <20090411062332.GK4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> heh, if you'd come along to the meeting you'd have all the answers you need ;-) In a nutshell, I discovered Devel::REPL after I had written this, and haven't had a good look at it. Certainly the thought of copying a single script to a machine and having it work appeals :-) On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 03:22:59PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote: > Martyn Smith writes: > > > Okay, so I fixed up the few really obvious bugs, and made it run on > > 5.8 with no deps (hopefully). > > Is there any reason than Devel::REPL isn't better suited to your needs? > > Granted, not dependency free, but is that /really/ such a critical > issue? > > Regards, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > Wellington-pm mailing list > Wellington-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm > From daniel at rimspace.net Sat Apr 11 00:48:10 2009 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:48:10 +1000 Subject: [Wellington-pm] pii - perl interactive interpreter In-Reply-To: <20090411062332.GK4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> (Martyn Smith's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:23:32 +1200") References: <20090411030544.GJ4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> <873acfwyq4.fsf@rimspace.net> <20090411062332.GK4661@sear.dollyfish.net.nz> Message-ID: <87hc0vvdfp.fsf@rimspace.net> Martyn Smith writes: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 03:22:59PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> Martyn Smith writes: >> >> > Okay, so I fixed up the few really obvious bugs, and made it run on >> > 5.8 with no deps (hopefully). >> >> Is there any reason than Devel::REPL isn't better suited to your needs? >> >> Granted, not dependency free, but is that /really/ such a critical >> issue? > > if you'd come along to the meeting you'd have all the answers you need I would love to, but I don't seem to be able to get over there in time; the flight from melbourne.au is inconveniently long. ;) > In a nutshell, I discovered Devel::REPL after I had written this, and > haven't had a good look at it. > > Certainly the thought of copying a single script to a machine and > having it work appeals :-) *nod* I can understand that. Devel::REPL is heavy, but extensible, which I find attractive. It is also my general experience that if installing Perl dependencies is a significant problem for you then you just lost the biggest attraction of Perl, which is the CPAN library.[1] If getting that dependency issue is a pain you may find PAR a useful adjunct, with the ability to pack all the dependencies into a single Perl script you can copy around... :) Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] The CPAN module to do whatever you imagine may not be any *good*, but there is probably something there to think about, at least. 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