From dmitriy at dzema.name  Sat Mar  1 19:10:34 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:10:34 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code -- volunteers
	needed
References: <200803011903.42169.ewilhelm@cpan.org>
Message-ID: <1DF26D42-DFBA-4263-B81A-8126F5640EEF@dzema.name>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputing at gmail.com>
> Date: 2 марта 2008 г. 13:03:41 GMT+10:00
> To: pm_groups at pm.org
> Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code -- volunteers needed
>
> Hi all,
>
> Volunteer pledge drive!  Please forward this to your local PM groups.
>
> TPF needs volunteers to make summer of code happen this year.  It  
> sounds
> like the administrators got stretched too thin in 2005 and 2006,  
> and we
> really didn't have ourselves together in 2007.  So, I'm proposing a
> departmental structure under a TPF umbrella, which will localize the
> cat-herding effects within various large projects (so far, parrot and
> Catalyst appear to be on board with this.)  I would like to  
> demonstrate
> that we have our act together this year, so we need to get a solid  
> pool
> of administrative volunteers and mentors together before the 8th.
>
>
> Administrative needs:
>
>   (Contact ewilhelm at cpan.org or join #soc on irc.perl.org.)
>
>   * backup administrator (reduce the bus number)
>
>   * Department heads for p5p, "modules", etc
>
>   * Suggestions about department structure
>
>
> Mentors and project ideas needed:
>
> We need to get these pages populated before March 8th or it is quite
> likely to be a no-go.
>
> Potential mentors, please add yourselves and your project ideas here:
>
>   http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc2008_mentors
>   http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc2008_projects
>
>
> If you hate wikis as much as I do, please visit this handy form and I
> will batch the wiki edits on your behalf.
>
>   http://scratchcomputing.com/loveperlhatewiki.html
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
> -- 
> We who cut mere stones must always be envisioning cathedrals.
> --Quarry worker's creed
> ---------------------------------------------------
>     http://scratchcomputing.com
> ---------------------------------------------------
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From dmitriy at dzema.name  Sat Mar  1 20:46:54 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:46:54 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm]
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Получилась такая общепрограммерская  
встреча, а не Perl-орриентированная. Git,  
Law of Demeterm, логика в шаблонах и тд :)

> УРа, встреча состоялась, спасибо  
> большое всем, приятно посидели )
> напишу кратенький отчет чуть позже.
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From dmitriy at dzema.name  Mon Mar  3 05:22:00 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:22:00 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] =?utf-8?b?R1NPQyAwOCDQuCDQstC60LvQsNC0INCyINGA?=
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Всем привет.

http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc2008_projects
Народу тут набирает таски для  GSoC  
нынешнего. Если вы хотели что-то  
сделать для перла, то можно черпать  
идеи и брать на разработку то, что не  
разберут на GSOC.


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From dmitriy at dzema.name  Tue Mar 11 07:27:34 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:27:34 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] =?utf-8?b?0JLRgdGC0YDQtdGH0LAg0LIg0LzQsNGA0YI=?=
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Message-ID: <785B046E-329A-40DE-AA44-E298005A474B@dzema.name>

Всем привет.

Таки бум встречаться, или все  
работящие и занятые? Тогда и  
повременим.

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From roman.belikin at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 17:58:35 2008
From: roman.belikin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0KDQvtC80LDQvSDQmi4g0JHQtdC70LjQutC40L0=?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:58:35 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm]
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Работящие и занятые, но встречаться надо :) Предлагаю на 23 - это вск.

12.03.08, Dmitriy Dzema <dmitriy at dzema.name> написал(а):
>
> Всем привет.
>
> Таки бум встречаться, или все
> работящие и занятые? Тогда и
> повременим.
>
>
>
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From forihrd at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 21:02:04 2008
From: forihrd at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9GM0Y8=?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:02:04 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm]
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поддерживаю и постараюсь таки подготовится в этот раз.
кстате -- удивительно, но народ с нашего сайта заходит на vladivostok.pm.org )

12.03.08, Роман К. Беликин<roman.belikin at gmail.com> написал(а):
> Работящие и занятые, но встречаться надо :) Предлагаю на 23 - это вск.
>
> 12.03.08, Dmitriy Dzema <dmitriy at dzema.name> написал(а):
> > Всем привет.
> >
> > Таки бум встречаться, или все
> > работящие и занятые? Тогда и
> > повременим.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From dmitriy at dzema.name  Tue Mar 18 01:08:46 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:08:46 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Perl -- call for
	student proposals
References: <200803180055.25007.ewilhelm@cpan.org>
Message-ID: <6686282A-9AE7-4AA4-9604-9FB486EABCB5@dzema.name>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputing at gmail.com>
> Date: 18 марта 2008 г. 17:55:24 GMT+10:00
> To: "PM Groups" <pm_groups at pm.org>
> Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Perl -- call for student proposals
>
> Hi all,  Please forward this to your groups.  (Also feel free to break
> into a discussion as to whether or how students are involved in the
> perl community, what we can do to connect with more universities and
> etc.)
>
>
> The Perl Foundation is participating in Google's 2008 Summer of Code 
> (tm)
> and we have a lot of capable, willing mentors looking forward to  
> working
> with some talented, driven students.  So, we would like you to help
> find those students (and quickly -- the students must apply before
> March 24th.)
>
> This is a rare opportunity for students to get a chance to get a paid
> summer of hacking on exciting projects like Parrot, Perl 6, Moose,
> Jifty, SVK, Catalyst, or their very own Perl modules or applications.
> It also brings new talent into the community and gives the student a
> hefty "real world" experience with a knowledgable mentor.  Further,
> employers love to see this sort of demonstration of teamwork, handling
> deadlines, communication skills, resourcefulness and etc.
>
> We're looking for promising students who are interested in open source
> (or maybe you know someone who *should* be interested in open source.)
> Knowledge of Perl is optional if the project is Parrot-related.  The
> student doesn't need to be an expert in the problem domain (after all,
> learning is part of the process), but should bring a big pile of
> creativity, problem-solving skills, and determination.
>
> Students should review the page of suggested projects, but are
> encouraged to bring their own proposals (those are often the best.)
> The most important first step is getting in touch with the community
> and discussing their project idea with potential mentors.
>
>   http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc2008_projects
>
> Additional information and links can be found here.
>
>   http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc2008
>
> Google has posted some flyers if you happen to have a university
> bulletin board or hallway handy:
>
>   http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers
>
> Additional info:
>
>   http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
>   http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html
>
> (Note that google has particular requirements to do with the fact that
> they are paying the students.  The student must be able to show their
> eligibility regarding enrollment and employability.)
>
> Remember, the Perl community draws talent from many fields, so if you
> came to Perl from a non-computer-science major and still have contacts
> in that department from your university, it is probably worth
> mentioning to them.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric

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From dmitriy at dzema.name  Mon Mar 24 07:54:07 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:54:07 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] =?utf-8?b?0JrQvdC40LPQuA==?=
Message-ID: <6581560B-94CA-44C9-AAD5-CF6F42829807@dzema.name>

Напоминаю, что мы хотели сделать  
список книг, рекомендуемых к  
прочтению каждому перловику.  
Скидывайте ваши рекомендации,  
составим список. Желательно  
маленькое описание 1-2 предложениями о  
том, почему имеено эта книга бла-бла- 
бла.


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From forihrd at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 01:21:55 2008
From: forihrd at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9GM0Y8=?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:21:55 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] =?utf-8?b?0JrQvdC40LPQuA==?=
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References: <6581560B-94CA-44C9-AAD5-CF6F42829807@dzema.name>
Message-ID: <ce7d754b0803260121q33f706dam77e81e0b522cadf7@mail.gmail.com>

Привет, да. Только по мне так лучше именно в формате прочитал -- вот
краткая рецензия. А не просто -- лучшие. Лучшие именно по Perl вроде
как известны -- (lama|alpaca|cook|camel) book и про них писать,
наверное, смысла нет.

Еще одно соображение -- мои, например, рецензии будут сомнительной
объективности, скорее просто IMHO. И мнение, пока, действительно
скромное -- нет многолетнего опыта. И, соответственно, мне интересна
реакция -- у кого какие мнения по той же книге, если читали.

Из недавно прочитанного у меня 55 фактов , а сейчас читаю  UML Основы,
третье издание, по обеим книгам напишу свое в ближайшее недолго.

Илья.

On 25/03/2008, Dmitriy Dzema <dmitriy at dzema.name> wrote:
> Напоминаю, что мы хотели сделать
>  список книг, рекомендуемых к
>  прочтению каждому перловику.
>  Скидывайте ваши рекомендации,
>  составим список. Желательно
>  маленькое описание 1-2 предложениями о
>  том, почему имеено эта книга бла-бла-
>  бла.
>
>
>
>

From forihrd at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 01:24:38 2008
From: forihrd at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9GM0Y8=?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:24:38 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst
Message-ID: <ce7d754b0803260124p2e88db15q853b04a1ab6fccef@mail.gmail.com>

Привет,
работая с Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst столкнулись с неприятным
глюком -- если форму заполнить UTF, то субмит ее сделать уже никак не
получается.

Кто нибудь сталкивался?

Илья.

From dmitriy at dzema.name  Wed Mar 26 03:41:37 2008
From: dmitriy at dzema.name (Dmitriy Dzema)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:41:37 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] =?utf-8?b?0JrQvdC40LPQuA==?=
In-Reply-To: <ce7d754b0803260121q33f706dam77e81e0b522cadf7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6581560B-94CA-44C9-AAD5-CF6F42829807@dzema.name>
	<ce7d754b0803260121q33f706dam77e81e0b522cadf7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C15FA0BE-809B-44B3-8E86-3968042F10DD@dzema.name>


On 26.03.2008, at 18:21, Илья wrote:

> Лучшие именно по Perl вроде
> как известны -- (lama|alpaca|cook|camel) book и про  
> них писать,
> наверное, смысла нет.
>
Кроме них еще хорошие книжки есть,  
типа Perl Best Practices и плохие есть, типа Perl &  
XML в переводе Питера. Так что стоит, я  
думаю.

> Еще одно соображение -- мои, например,  
> рецензии будут сомнительной
> объективности, скорее просто IMHO.

О какой объективности речь? Любые  
твои рецензии, отзывы, посты в блоге,  
рассылке - это ИМХО. Если начнешь  
рассуждать за всех людей, ничем  
хорошим это не закончится, я считаю ;)

Вообще про книги ситуацию я уж евроде  
рассказывал, что если у нас будет  
некая активность в сети, то можно  
будет с орейли договариваться про  
ревью книжек и про скидки. Так что  
рецензии - вещь полезная.
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From roman.belikin at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 04:01:18 2008
From: roman.belikin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0KDQvtC80LDQvSDQmi4g0JHQtdC70LjQutC40L0=?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:01:18 +1000
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst
In-Reply-To: <ce7d754b0803260124p2e88db15q853b04a1ab6fccef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce7d754b0803260124p2e88db15q853b04a1ab6fccef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2929a2100803260401r7a977adcxa83bc0353eb0f7e6@mail.gmail.com>

Точнее сабмитить то получается, только в параметры запроса не добавляется
нажатая кнопка.

2008/3/26 Илья <forihrd at gmail.com>:

> Привет,
> работая с Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst столкнулись с неприятным
> глюком -- если форму заполнить UTF, то субмит ее сделать уже никак не
> получается.
>
> Кто нибудь сталкивался?
>
> Илья.
>
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From forihrd at gmail.com  Sun Mar 30 21:33:58 2008
From: forihrd at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9GM0Y8=?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:33:58 +1100
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm] =?utf-8?b?0Lgg0LfQtNC10YHRjCDQsNCy0YLQvtGB0YI=?=
	=?utf-8?b?0L7Qv9GJ0LjQutC4?=
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r26598 | jonathan | 2008-03-29 05:07:21 +1000 (Sat, 29 Mar 2008) | 1 line

[rakudo] Bring * (whatever) inline with STD.pm by making it a term.
Also make it an l-value so we can do * = 42; style things (will be
useful once we get list assignment, I guess).

From andy at shitov.ru  Sun Mar 30 21:38:16 2008
From: andy at shitov.ru (Andrew Shitov)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:38:16 +0400
Subject: [Vladivostok.pm]
 =?utf-8?b?0Lgg0LfQtNC10YHRjCDQsNCy0YLQvtGB0YI=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0L7Qv9GJ0LjQutC4?=
In-Reply-To: <ce7d754b0803302133m6649a605xed4cb054b602e8c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce7d754b0803302133m6649a605xed4cb054b602e8c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1796897810.20080331083816@shitov.ru>

> r26598 | jonathan | 2008-03-29 05:07:21 +1000 (Sat, 29 Mar 2008) | 1 line

> [rakudo] Bring * (whatever) inline with STD.pm by making it a term.
> Also make it an l-value so we can do * = 42; style things (will be
> useful once we get list assignment, I guess).


Вероятно, нужно знать и откуда это взялось:
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.compiler/2008/03/msg1773.html


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