[Vienna-pm] Robot Turtles - a board game to teach programming
r.angerer at 123people.com
Tue Sep 17 05:25:02 PDT 2013
I own Robo Rally and I have to say, that its even difficult for grown
ups to master. Robot Turtles seems like a brilliant version or Robo
Rally that you could really play with kids.
Love it - want one. Count me in if pricing is possible around €30.
On 09/17/2013 12:34 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Robot Turtles is a board game you play with your favorite 3-8 year
> old. It sneakily teaches programming fundamentals.
> I am intrigued by this. Partly because someone (can't find the attribution)
> commented that for an adult, children's games seem to partition either into
> pure chance (E has at least one like this) or where the adult is subtly
> trying to loose*. So this looks like fun, even without the ulterior motive**
> So, anyway, I believe that I want to purchase one. ONE. Problem is that
> with the international shipping, purchasing one is not very cost effective.
> (ie $60)
> There is a "3-pack", which is $120 including shipping, and a "Deca-pack",
> which is $340. These look viable, as they bring the unit cost down to
> something like the price of a regular new board game (eg Settlers of Catan
> or Monopoly ship from amazon.de for about 30 EUR)
> One niggle here is that I can read that if I were to ship stuff to the UK,
> tax and import duty are both payable. It's 20% VAT on anything over £15, and
> "phone us up, because we make it way too complicated with 14000 categories"%
> (typically 5-9%) import duty for anything over £135
> 1) I don't know how to find the relevant numbers for Austria
> 2) If I assume that VAT is unavoidably going to be charged, at 20%, but only
> on the games, not the shipping, then the price actually isn't terrible:
> 3-pack: $80 * 1.2 + $40 = $136 = EUR 101.78 = EUR 33.93 each
> 10-pack: $240 * 1.2 + $100 = $388 = EUR 290.38 = EUR 29.04 each
> 3) So, is anyone else interested?
> 4) What is the threshold for paying duty? And the rate?
> The UK rates work out that (I think) duty has to reach 23% before the
> 10-pack is more expensive than the below-threshold 3-pack.
> 5) What is the charge that gets made by the delivery firm for collecting
> the duty?
> Nicholas Clark
> * Somehow my grandmother was even able to loose at Snakes and Ladders, which
> is strange give that it is a game of pure chance. This takes *real* skill.
> ** Programming is a useful skill. E needs to go to work, so that I can
> continue to have ice cream. :-)
> Vienna-pm mailing list
> Vienna-pm at pm.org
123people internet services gmbh
Jakob-Haringer-Strasse 8, Techno5
r.angerer at 123people.com
More information about the Vienna-pm