From darren at DarrenDuncan.net  Sat Mar  8 01:58:35 2008
From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:58:35 -0800
Subject: [VPM] Tuesday March 11 VLUG Meeting : Programming!
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This message is forwarded from the Victoria Linux Users Group mailing 
list. -- Darren Duncan

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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:28:58 -0800
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From: "Larry Gagnon" <lggagnon at uniserve.com>
Subject: [Discuss] Tuesday March 11 VLUG Meeting : Programming!
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Just a reminder to all members and friends that the monthly VLUG 
meeting is this Tuesday, March 11th. We will meet at UVic, Cornett 
Bldg, Rm B108, 7PM, but it is likely we will move to rooom A125 from 
there (if free. We are awaiting formal UVic approval to use Room A125 
for future meetings).

John Blomfield will give a talk entitled: "Writing Programs for 
Linux". The first half of the talk will discuss the basic differences 
between programming languages, interpreters and compilers, with some 
simple examples. GUI's, widgets, IDE's and software installation will 
be discussed briefly. In the second half of the talk John will 
demonstrate the use of the IDE KDevelop and Qt Designer, first on 
some simple programs and then progressing to multi-file projects. 
Discussion will include C++, Qt and STL libraries.

This should prove to be an interesting and educational talk for 
beginners and advanced Linux users. Tell all your friends about us 
and hope to see you there.

Larry Gagnon
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From Peter at PSDT.com  Mon Mar 10 10:04:12 2008
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:04:12 -0700
Subject: [VPM] March meeting?
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080310100139.0225e910@mail.webquarry.com>

Can I see a show of hands for who would be interested in a March 
Victoria Perl Mongers meeting please?  I could present:

	Parsing with Parse::RecDescent

	New features in 5.10

Probably both, since they're about an hour each.  The meeting would be 
on the 18th if it takes place but only if there's sufficient expression 
of interest.
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/



From mock at obscurity.org  Mon Mar 10 11:05:52 2008
From: mock at obscurity.org (mock)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:05:52 +0000
Subject: [VPM] March meeting?
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:04:12AM -0700, Peter Scott wrote:
> Can I see a show of hands for who would be interested in a March 
> Victoria Perl Mongers meeting please?  I could present:
> 
> 	Parsing with Parse::RecDescent
> 
> 	New features in 5.10
> 
> Probably both, since they're about an hour each.  The meeting would be 
> on the 18th if it takes place but only if there's sufficient expression 
> of interest.
> -- 
> 

I can't do it this month.  Got to be in Vancouver for a conference.

I'd be interested in next month though...

From darren at DarrenDuncan.net  Mon Mar 10 12:52:19 2008
From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:52:19 -0700
Subject: [VPM] March meeting?
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References: <6.2.3.4.2.20080310100139.0225e910@mail.webquarry.com>
Message-ID: <p06240800c3fb416c6047@[192.168.1.100]>

At 10:04 AM -0700 3/10/08, Peter Scott wrote:
>Can I see a show of hands for who would be interested in a March
>Victoria Perl Mongers meeting please?  I could present:
>
>	Parsing with Parse::RecDescent
>
>	New features in 5.10
>
>Probably both, since they're about an hour each.  The meeting would be
>on the 18th if it takes place but only if there's sufficient expression
>of interest.

Both of those topics would interest me.  And the 18th would probably 
work for me, but I can also wait for a month to accommodate mock et 
al.  Assuming we can't just meet on a different day this month. -- 
Darren Duncan

From Peter at PSDT.com  Wed Mar 12 17:28:54 2008
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:28:54 -0700
Subject: [VPM] Testing module alert
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080312172828.03002540@mail.webquarry.com>

I just discovered problems with the very new Test::Tester module and 
the quite new Test::Builder module in the Test::Simple 
distribution.  The check_test() function does not work right in 
Test::Tester any more (don't know why it passed its tests) and this 
causes, for instance, Test::Output to fail its tests (horribly).  Quite 
probably many other modules would be affected, albeit only in their tests.

I have alerted the module authors and rolled back using the following 
CPAN shell commands:

  install M/MS/MSCHWERN/Test-Simple-0.74.tar.gz
  install F/FD/FDALY/Test-Tester-0.106.tar.gz

I suggest waiting for a version of Test::Tester with a version number > 
0.107 and a version of Test::Simple with a version number > 0.79_01.
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/



From darren at DarrenDuncan.net  Wed Mar 12 17:36:23 2008
From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:36:23 -0700
Subject: [VPM] Testing module alert
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References: <6.2.3.4.2.20080312172828.03002540@mail.webquarry.com>
Message-ID: <p06240802c3fe27010d47@[192.168.1.100]>

At 5:28 PM -0700 3/12/08, Peter Scott wrote:
>I just discovered problems with the very new Test::Tester module and
>the quite new Test::Builder module in the Test::Simple
>distribution.  The check_test() function does not work right in
>Test::Tester any more (don't know why it passed its tests) and this
>causes, for instance, Test::Output to fail its tests (horribly).  Quite
>probably many other modules would be affected, albeit only in their tests.
>
>I have alerted the module authors and rolled back using the following
>CPAN shell commands:
>
>   install M/MS/MSCHWERN/Test-Simple-0.74.tar.gz
>   install F/FD/FDALY/Test-Tester-0.106.tar.gz
>
>I suggest waiting for a version of Test::Tester with a version number >
>0.107 and a version of Test::Simple with a version number > 0.79_01.

Is Victoria.pm the mailing list that you intended to contact with 
that post, in contrast to a more general CPAN list?

In any event, I've always been using Test::More for my own modules, 
which is bundled with Perl, and it is plenty simple enough.

-- Darren Duncan

From Peter at PSDT.com  Wed Mar 12 18:05:42 2008
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:05:42 -0700
Subject: [VPM] Testing module alert
In-Reply-To: <p06240802c3fe27010d47@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20080312172828.03002540@mail.webquarry.com>
	<p06240802c3fe27010d47@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080312180339.02fd9070@mail.webquarry.com>

At 05:36 PM 3/12/2008, Darren Duncan wrote:
>At 5:28 PM -0700 3/12/08, Peter Scott wrote:
> >I just discovered problems with the very new Test::Tester module and
> >the quite new Test::Builder module in the Test::Simple
> >distribution.  The check_test() function does not work right in
> >Test::Tester any more (don't know why it passed its tests) and this
> >causes, for instance, Test::Output to fail its tests (horribly).  Quite
> >probably many other modules would be affected, albeit only in their tests.
> >
> >I have alerted the module authors and rolled back using the following
> >CPAN shell commands:
> >
> >   install M/MS/MSCHWERN/Test-Simple-0.74.tar.gz
> >   install F/FD/FDALY/Test-Tester-0.106.tar.gz
> >
> >I suggest waiting for a version of Test::Tester with a version number >
> >0.107 and a version of Test::Simple with a version number > 0.79_01.
>
>Is Victoria.pm the mailing list that you intended to contact with
>that post, in contrast to a more general CPAN list?

I may have been too hasty.  Even though I verified this behaviour on 
two different machines, I am now no longer able to reproduce it, i.e., 
the newer versions of Test::Simple and Test::Tester work just fine with 
Test::Output.  I am trying to figure out why I saw what I did.

>In any event, I've always been using Test::More for my own modules,
>which is bundled with Perl, and it is plenty simple enough.

Test::More is part of the Test::Simple distribution.  And Test::Output 
is extremely handy if you want to test things output to stdout or 
stderr.  Without that you have to much around with IO::Scalar or similar.

-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/