I propose for July 19 to present my OSCON talk, "Extreme Perl Makeover", never before seen by human eyes. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2005/view/e_sess/6533 There will be room for another hour's topic. Suggestions? -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ http://www.perlmedic.com/