From Peter at PSDT.com Mon Nov 10 17:27:50 2003 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] November meeting Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031110152731.019e9e88@shell2.webquarry.com> Hi. We need a topic for a November meeting. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ *** New! *** http://www.perlmedic.com/ From abez at abez.ca Mon Nov 10 17:24:23 2003 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] November meeting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20031110152731.019e9e88@shell2.webquarry.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20031110152731.019e9e88@shell2.webquarry.com> Message-ID: Supposedly I have to get some presentation done about perl and games. So a little on SDL and how perl can be used in games. It might be really high level -- more so focussed on the patterns of games and perl rather than exactly how to do it. abram On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Peter Scott wrote: > Hi. We need a topic for a November meeting. Does anyone have any suggestions? > -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez@abez.ca) ------------------------------------------ abez From darren at DarrenDuncan.net Mon Nov 10 18:12:15 2003 From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] November meeting In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20031110152731.019e9e88@shell2.webquarry.com> Message-ID: At 3:24 PM -0800 11/10/03, abez wrote: >Supposedly I have to get some presentation done about perl and games. > >So a little on SDL and how perl can be used in games. It might be really >high level -- more so focussed on the patterns of games and perl rather >than exactly how to do it. > >abram I wouldn't see the high-levelness as a problem; rather, as a good thing. The fact is, in order to do the work properly, one must understand the high level context of what they are doing before they are really ready to absorb the low level details. So if you're ready then go for it! -- Darren Duncan From Peter at PSDT.com Tue Nov 11 13:46:29 2003 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Victoria Perl Mongers meeting Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031111114358.01850270@shell2.webquarry.com> Victoria.pm will meet next on Monday, November 24, 7pm, at UVic. Abram is reserving the room and I shall announce it by email the day before the meeting. Abram will present on "Perl and Games". I'm looking forward to that; the little I've read on the topic to date has been entertaining and educational. Other topics to be covered as time permits; make requests for anything particular. I shall give away the O'Reilly User Friendly book "Evil Geniuses in a Nutshell" by the usual method. (Courtesy copy to VLUG members by permission of the list manager. Victoria.pm's home page is .) -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ *** New! *** http://www.perlmedic.com/ From Peter at PSDT.com Tue Nov 18 16:30:04 2003 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Meeting on 24th Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031118142751.018ec828@shell2.webquarry.com> I have a family emergency and don't know whether I'll be at the meeting or even in touch via email; regardless, I need to not have any action items associated with it. I need someone to step forward to coordinate reserving the room (Abram usually does that) and make the announcement to victoria-pm@pm.org, copy discuss@vlug.org. If you could work that out among yourselves, please. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ *** New! *** http://www.perlmedic.com/ From nathanaelkuipers at hotmail.com Wed Nov 19 09:44:46 2003 From: nathanaelkuipers at hotmail.com (nathanael kuipers) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Meeting on 24th Message-ID: Actually, something has come up for me a well on that date. Not mission critical like Peter's, but since one of our main people cannot attend, perhaps we could postpone until the following week? -nathanael _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From Peter at PSDT.com Wed Nov 19 11:34:04 2003 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Meeting on 24th In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031119093308.019b4250@shell2.webquarry.com> At 07:44 AM 11/19/2003 -0800, nathanael kuipers wrote: >Actually, something has come up for me a well on that date. Not >mission critical like Peter's, but since one of our main people cannot >attend, perhaps we could postpone until the following week? I didn't say I couldn't attend, just that I may not. I may have to go out of town on a moment's notice. If I don't, then I *will* be out of town the following week anyway. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ *** New! *** http://www.perlmedic.com/ From darren at DarrenDuncan.net Wed Nov 19 20:07:07 2003 From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Meeting on 24th Message-ID: >At 07:44 AM 11/19/2003 -0800, nathanael kuipers wrote: >>Actually, something has come up for me a well on that date. Not mission critical like Peter's, but since one of our main people cannot attend, perhaps we could postpone until the following week? Peter Scott said: >I didn't say I couldn't attend, just that I may not. I may have to go out of town on a moment's notice. If I don't, then I *will* be out of town the following week anyway. Something else we could do is pospone by one or two days, but keep it in the same week. How does tuesday sound? I think Thursday is busy for me, but I'm not sure. On that note, is there anyone here who can make it on monday but not later in the same week? And is there anyone not on this list who has been told about the monday and wanted to come? -- Darren Duncan From abez at abez.ca Wed Nov 19 21:49:45 2003 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Meeting on 24th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unforunately monday is the only night I am available. abram On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Darren Duncan wrote: > >At 07:44 AM 11/19/2003 -0800, nathanael kuipers wrote: > >>Actually, something has come up for me a well on that date. Not mission critical like Peter's, but since one of our main people cannot attend, perhaps we could postpone until the following week? > > Peter Scott said: > >I didn't say I couldn't attend, just that I may not. I may have to go out of town on a moment's notice. If I don't, then I *will* be out of town the following week anyway. > > Something else we could do is pospone by one or two days, but keep it in the same week. How does tuesday sound? I think Thursday is busy for me, but I'm not sure. On that note, is there anyone here who can make it on monday but not later in the same week? And is there anyone not on this list who has been told about the monday and wanted to come? -- Darren Duncan > -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez@abez.ca) ------------------------------------------ abez From abez at abez.ca Thu Nov 20 17:57:21 2003 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] UVic Room Booking Confirmation (fwd) Message-ID: -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez@abez.ca) ------------------------------------------ abez ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:35 -0800 PST From: SRSAR50 To: "abez@UVic.CA" Subject: UVic Room Booking Confirmation Janet House 721-7587 Non-Academic Bookings Office of the Administrative Registrar Mr Abram Hindle 20 Nov 03 206-1670 FORT ST No. 03-5909 VICTORIA BC V8R 1H9 This is your confirmation that the University facilities you requested have been approved and reserved. Contact: 721-9066 Event: COMPUTER SCIENCE COURSE UNION Mon 24NOV03 7:00pm- 9:00pm Cntr for Innovative Teach 120 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please pick up the key prior to 3:30 p.m. and return on Monday. The University reserves the right to change or cancel any booking. From Peter at PSDT.com Thu Nov 20 17:36:26 2003 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Meeting Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031120153539.019b0548@shell2.webquarry.com> I now know that I will be gone for a funeral instead of at a meeting next week. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ *** New! *** http://www.perlmedic.com/ From abez at abez.ca Sat Nov 22 16:37:30 2003 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] [Csgrad] [Csannounce] Lecture: Game Development In Perl (Nov.24/CIT120/7:00pm) (fwd) Message-ID: With help from the CSCU: Victoria Perl Mongers Presents: Game Development In Perl Monday November 24, CIT 120, 7:00 PM Abram Hindle of Victoria Perl Mongers will be presenting a lecture entitled "Game Development in Perl". Abstract: Game development is a difficult and demanding process; many independent game developers get stuck. They are either stopped by technical issues, complexity issues, garbage collection, or time and resource allocation issues. Dynamically typed and interpreted languages such as Perl would be great for programming the high level features of games and other multimedia software as they are often fast and easy for developers to work in. These languages are often overlooked in the name of performance. It doesn't have to be this way. This talk will focus on the use of Perl in the existing game development process ; patterns of perl usage in games ; argument for the use of Perl in games ; tools for game development and Perl ; survey of games using Perl. This talk will be reasonably high level virtually avoiding Perl code. The talk does not require much Perl knowledge. From abez at abez.ca Sat Nov 22 16:47:47 2003 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Check it out! Message-ID: sub fastuniq { my %l; @l{@_} = @_; values %l } Neat little function -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez@abez.ca) ------------------------------------------ abez From nathanaelkuipers at hotmail.com Mon Nov 24 13:19:11 2003 From: nathanaelkuipers at hotmail.com (nathanael kuipers) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] Peter Scott on perl.com Message-ID: Hey how about that. Peter has coined a technical term. :) http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/11/21/slurp.html Cheers, Nathanael _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From abez at abez.ca Tue Nov 25 00:32:04 2003 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:11:28 2004 Subject: [VPM] My slides and example code Message-ID: http://abez.ca/supernaut/vpm.games.nov2003.tgz Those are my slides and example code. Nathan please download and post that file to our webspace. Thank you. abram -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez@abez.ca) ------------------------------------------ abez