From include at npf.pt.freebsd.org  Mon Oct  3 10:22:08 2005
From: include at npf.pt.freebsd.org (Francisco Cabrita)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:22:08 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] [off-topic]: novo verbo "restart"
Message-ID: <200510031822.10829.include@npf.pt.freebsd.org>

<desabafo>
Ok pode ser um desabafo, mas hoje vi(*) ser inventado um novo verbo para o 
mundo do Linux :D

Eu n?o restarto
tu restartas
tu restartas
tu restartas
...
...
...
</desabafo>

vi(*) - n?o era eu o autor dos restarts.


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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Tue Oct  4 02:26:40 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:26:40 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] (forw) [janet@apress.com: Apress User Group Newsletter
	Here - Please Distribute]
Message-ID: <20051004092640.GA29763@natura.di.uminho.pt>

A Apress pede que se passe isto aos pm groups.

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----- End forwarded message -----
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      http://jose-castro.org/

From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Thu Oct  6 03:55:04 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:55:04 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Reuni=E3o=2C_este_S=E1bado=3F?=
Message-ID: <20051006105504.GA17261@natura.di.uminho.pt>

Que me dizem? Depois do almo?o (? noite n?o posso).

14:30, Esta??o Viana? :-)

Abra?os,

jac

--
Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
      http://jose-castro.org/

From francisco at nortenet.pt  Thu Oct  6 04:26:30 2005
From: francisco at nortenet.pt (Francisco Alves Cabrita)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:26:30 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Reuni=E3o?=,
	este =?iso-8859-1?q?S=E1bado=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <20051006105504.GA17261@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20051006105504.GA17261@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <200510061226.33302.francisco@nortenet.pt>

I will be there :D pra comer um Sunday de Choc :D

Abracius grandius
Franciscus


Em Quinta 06 Outubro 2005 11:55, o Jos? Castro escreveu:
> Que me dizem? Depois do almo?o (? noite n?o posso).
>
> 14:30, Esta??o Viana? :-)
>
> Abra?os,
>
> jac
>
> --
> Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
>       http://jose-castro.org/
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From balinha at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 11:35:08 2005
From: balinha at gmail.com (Ricardo Balinha)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:35:08 +0100
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[Viana-pm]_Reuni=E3o,_este_S=E1bado=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <200510061226.33302.francisco@nortenet.pt>
References: <20051006105504.GA17261@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<200510061226.33302.francisco@nortenet.pt>
Message-ID: <a62af69c0510071135m169fdab3i97652b79dc62d597@mail.gmail.com>

Biba, por acaso a mim dava-me muito mais jeito ? noite
porque a essa hora h? muita coisa para fazer, mas se por acaso
ainda conseguir ir eu ligo.
J? agora, qual ? o vosso numero?
O meu ? 919742626 para n?o estranharem:)
1abra?o
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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Fri Oct  7 14:57:52 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:57:52 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] =?iso-8859-1?B?UmV1bmnjbywg?=
	=?iso-8859-1?Q?este_S=E1bado=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <a62af69c0510071135m169fdab3i97652b79dc62d597@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051006105504.GA17261@natura.di.uminho.pt>
	<200510061226.33302.francisco@nortenet.pt>
	<a62af69c0510071135m169fdab3i97652b79dc62d597@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051007215752.GA21034@natura.di.uminho.pt>

* Ricardo Balinha (balinha at gmail.com) wrote:
> Biba, por acaso a mim dava-me muito mais jeito ? noite

Eu ? noite n?o estou em Viana :-\

> porque a essa hora h? muita coisa para fazer, mas se por acaso
> ainda conseguir ir eu ligo.

Tenta ir, e logo se v? :-)

> J? agora, qual ? o vosso numero?
> O meu ? 919742626 para n?o estranharem:)

O meu ? o 93 755 2015

> 1abra?o

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      http://jose-castro.org/

From francisco at nortenet.pt  Sat Oct  8 10:31:23 2005
From: francisco at nortenet.pt (Francisco Alves Cabrita)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 18:31:23 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] CFs de FreeBSD
Message-ID: <200510081831.26677.francisco@nortenet.pt>

Viva,, como falado aqui v?o os links e alguns contactos

CFs "stands for" "Como Fazer" tcc Howto :D
http://npf.pt.freebsd.org/modulo.php?nomemenuitem=Ver&fonte=/doc/pesquisa.php&t=v&id=todos

especificamente o que falamos
http://npf.pt.freebsd.org/doc/CFs/jails.pdf

entretanto os interessados deem uma volta pela p?gina e vejam se interessa :D. 
tb temos uma ML claro.



Contactos:

Francisco Cabrita tcc include
Jabber:	francisco.cabrita at jabber.org ( perferencialmente)
msn: 	francisco at nortenet.pt
Skype:	francisco.cabrita

Filipe Rocha tcc RIP
ripnix at msn.com

Abra?o grande
Francisco


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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Sat Oct  8 10:39:04 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 18:39:04 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] CFs de FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <200510081831.26677.francisco@nortenet.pt>
References: <200510081831.26677.francisco@nortenet.pt>
Message-ID: <20051008173904.GA2989@natura.di.uminho.pt>

* Francisco Alves Cabrita (francisco at nortenet.pt) wrote:
> Viva,, como falado aqui v?o os links e alguns contactos
> 
> CFs "stands for" "Como Fazer" tcc Howto :D

E 'tcc' "stands for" 'tamb?m conhecido como' :-)

> http://npf.pt.freebsd.org/modulo.php?nomemenuitem=Ver&fonte=/doc/pesquisa.php&t=v&id=todos
> 
> especificamente o que falamos
> http://npf.pt.freebsd.org/doc/CFs/jails.pdf
> 
> entretanto os interessados deem uma volta pela p?gina e vejam se interessa :D. 
> tb temos uma ML claro.
> 
> 
> 
> Contactos:
> 
> Francisco Cabrita tcc include
> Jabber:	francisco.cabrita at jabber.org ( perferencialmente)
> msn: 	francisco at nortenet.pt
> Skype:	francisco.cabrita
> 
> Filipe Rocha tcc RIP
> ripnix at msn.com
> 
> Abra?o grande
> Francisco
> 
> 



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> Viana-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/viana-pm

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      http://jose-castro.org/

From braceta at sapo.pt  Sat Oct  8 11:40:32 2005
From: braceta at sapo.pt (Luis Azevedo)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:40:32 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] Contacto..
Message-ID: <A806BB46-63AE-428D-8F0D-AA705F139F76@sapo.pt>

Para quem quiser adicionar, c? vai:

Msn: braceta at zmail.pt
Skype: braceta


Abra?o.

Luis Azevedo (Braceta)
braceta at sapo.pt




From balinha at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 13:52:12 2005
From: balinha at gmail.com (Ricardo Balinha)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 20:52:12 +0000
Subject: [Viana-pm] CFs de FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <200510081831.26677.francisco@nortenet.pt>
References: <200510081831.26677.francisco@nortenet.pt>
Message-ID: <a62af69c0510081352k2b4604ceof7140a1e380ea3f8@mail.gmail.com>

Os meus contactos:
jabber: balinha at jabber.org
msn: ricardobalinha at hotmail.com
skype: ricardobalinha
icq: 178236888

Telefone de casa? Morada?
hehehe
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From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Mon Oct 10 02:20:37 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:20:37 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] Contacto..
In-Reply-To: <A806BB46-63AE-428D-8F0D-AA705F139F76@sapo.pt>
References: <A806BB46-63AE-428D-8F0D-AA705F139F76@sapo.pt>
Message-ID: <20051010092037.GB25649@natura.di.uminho.pt>

Os meus:

msn: jac at portugalmail.pt
jabber: jac at im.ptinovacao.pt
yahoo: jac_portugalmail
icq: 176916653
aim: cogurov
skype: cogurov

* Luis Azevedo (braceta at sapo.pt) wrote:
> Para quem quiser adicionar, c=E1 vai:
> 
> Msn: braceta at zmail.pt
> Skype: braceta
> 
> 
> Abra=E7o.
> 
> Luis Azevedo (Braceta)
> braceta at sapo.pt
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Viana-pm mailing list
> Viana-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/viana-pm
--
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      http://jose-castro.org/

From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Mon Oct 10 06:35:50 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:35:50 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Altera=E7=F5es_na_p=E1gina?=
Message-ID: <20051010133550.GE25649@natura.di.uminho.pt>

Viva :-)

Altera??es na p?gina:

- A "pr?xima reuni?o" passou a "?ltima reuni?o"
- Inseri uma "pr?xima reuni?o" "a anunciar"
- Na FAQ, temos agora uma sec??o sobre Social Meetings

Por favor vejam, leiam, critiquem, comentem, corrijam, etc :-)

Abra?os,

jac

--
Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
      http://jose-castro.org/

From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt  Tue Oct 25 08:26:59 2005
From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:26:59 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] Livros
Message-ID: <20051025152659.GE21553@natura.di.uminho.pt>

Biba! :-)

Na semana passada estive na Euro Oscon e falei pessoalmente com a
pessoa da O'Reilly que nos pode arranjar livros.

Ela arranja-nos livros, mas temos que dar algo em troca... reviews no
nosso site.

Disse-lhe que as reviews seriam, em princ?pio, em Portugu?s; ela n?o
levantou objec??es mas pediu que reviews tivessem tamb?m algo do
g?nero estrelinhas (livro com 1 estrelinha - mau, livro com 4
estrelinhas - bom, etc).

Assim sendo, pergunto-vos se est?o com disposi??o de ler livros :-)

Basicamente, quem quiser:

 - Diz qual ? o livro (da O'Reilly) que quer ler
 - Eu passo-lhe a informa??o
 - Ela envia o livro
 - A pessoa l? o livro
 - A pessoa escreve a review
 - Mete-se a review no site

Quanto a tempos: acho que n?o h? obriga??o nenhuma relativamente a
tempos, mas seria giro se eles n?o tivessem que esperar anos pela
review ;-) Al?m do mais, a forma como nos comportarmos com os livros
que nos enviarem ditar? se receberemos mais livros ou n?o.

H? ainda um outro ponto que ainda n?o discutimos... os livros s?o
oferecidos ao grupo, pelo que teremos que decidir o que fazer com eles
depois da pessoa os ler. H? grupos que possuem uma biblioteca
conjunta, h? grupos onde o livro passa a pertencer ? pessoa, h? grupos
onde o livro fica permanentemente com a pessoa que o l? mas esta se
compromete a emprest?-lo a quem o requisitar...

Enfim, teremos que decidir o que fazer. N?o precisamos decidir j?, ?
?bvio, mas quis explicar aqui isto para que toda a gente saiba que, a
seu tempo, decidiremos qualquer coisa em conjunto :-)

E sim, suponho que possamos ter mais que uma pessoa a fazer reviews do
mesmo livro :-)

E ent?o? Que me dizem de vossa justi?a? :-)

Querem livros? :-)

jac

--
Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
      http://jose-castro.org/

From albie at alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt  Tue Oct 25 08:44:34 2005
From: albie at alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alberto_Sim=F5es?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:44:34 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] Livros
In-Reply-To: <20051025152659.GE21553@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20051025152659.GE21553@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <435E52E2.5060906@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt>

EU, EU, EU... um qualquer :-)

Jos? Castro wrote:
> Biba! :-)
> 
> Na semana passada estive na Euro Oscon e falei pessoalmente com a
> pessoa da O'Reilly que nos pode arranjar livros.
> 
> Ela arranja-nos livros, mas temos que dar algo em troca... reviews no
> nosso site.
> 
> Disse-lhe que as reviews seriam, em princ?pio, em Portugu?s; ela n?o
> levantou objec??es mas pediu que reviews tivessem tamb?m algo do
> g?nero estrelinhas (livro com 1 estrelinha - mau, livro com 4
> estrelinhas - bom, etc).
> 
> Assim sendo, pergunto-vos se est?o com disposi??o de ler livros :-)
> 
> Basicamente, quem quiser:
> 
>  - Diz qual ? o livro (da O'Reilly) que quer ler
>  - Eu passo-lhe a informa??o
>  - Ela envia o livro
>  - A pessoa l? o livro
>  - A pessoa escreve a review
>  - Mete-se a review no site
> 
> Quanto a tempos: acho que n?o h? obriga??o nenhuma relativamente a
> tempos, mas seria giro se eles n?o tivessem que esperar anos pela
> review ;-) Al?m do mais, a forma como nos comportarmos com os livros
> que nos enviarem ditar? se receberemos mais livros ou n?o.
> 
> H? ainda um outro ponto que ainda n?o discutimos... os livros s?o
> oferecidos ao grupo, pelo que teremos que decidir o que fazer com eles
> depois da pessoa os ler. H? grupos que possuem uma biblioteca
> conjunta, h? grupos onde o livro passa a pertencer ? pessoa, h? grupos
> onde o livro fica permanentemente com a pessoa que o l? mas esta se
> compromete a emprest?-lo a quem o requisitar...
> 
> Enfim, teremos que decidir o que fazer. N?o precisamos decidir j?, ?
> ?bvio, mas quis explicar aqui isto para que toda a gente saiba que, a
> seu tempo, decidiremos qualquer coisa em conjunto :-)
> 
> E sim, suponho que possamos ter mais que uma pessoa a fazer reviews do
> mesmo livro :-)
> 
> E ent?o? Que me dizem de vossa justi?a? :-)
> 
> Querem livros? :-)
> 
> jac
> 
> --
> Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
>       http://jose-castro.org/
> _______________________________________________
> Viana-pm mailing list
> Viana-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/viana-pm

-- 
Alberto Sim?es - Departamento de Inform?tica - Universidade do Minho
                  Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal


                  As tradu??es s?o como as mulheres.
                  Quando s?o fieis, n?o s?o boas.
                  Quando s?o boas, n?o s?o fieis.

From francisco at nortenet.pt  Tue Oct 25 10:45:01 2005
From: francisco at nortenet.pt (Francisco Alves Cabrita)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:45:01 +0100
Subject: [Viana-pm] Livros
In-Reply-To: <20051025152659.GE21553@natura.di.uminho.pt>
References: <20051025152659.GE21553@natura.di.uminho.pt>
Message-ID: <200510251845.05902.francisco@nortenet.pt>

Biba pa ti tb :)

Em Ter?a 25 Outubro 2005 16:26, o Jos? Castro escreveu:
> Biba! :-)
>
> Na semana passada estive na Euro Oscon e falei pessoalmente com a
> pessoa da O'Reilly que nos pode arranjar livros.
C?O

>
> Ela arranja-nos livros, mas temos que dar algo em troca... reviews no
> nosso site.
FIXE

>
> Disse-lhe que as reviews seriam, em princ?pio, em Portugu?s; ela n?o
> levantou objec??es mas pediu que reviews tivessem tamb?m algo do
> g?nero estrelinhas (livro com 1 estrelinha - mau, livro com 4
> estrelinhas - bom, etc).
F?CIL

>
> Assim sendo, pergunto-vos se est?o com disposi??o de ler livros :-)
SIM

>
> Basicamente, quem quiser:
>
>  - Diz qual ? o livro (da O'Reilly) que quer ler
>  - Eu passo-lhe a informa??o
>  - Ela envia o livro
>  - A pessoa l? o livro
>  - A pessoa escreve a review
>  - Mete-se a review no site
PORREIRO
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlsysadm/

>
> Quanto a tempos: acho que n?o h? obriga??o nenhuma relativamente a
> tempos, mas seria giro se eles n?o tivessem que esperar anos pela
> review ;-) Al?m do mais, a forma como nos comportarmos com os livros
> que nos enviarem ditar? se receberemos mais livros ou n?o.
POIS

>
> H? ainda um outro ponto que ainda n?o discutimos... os livros s?o
> oferecidos ao grupo, pelo que teremos que decidir o que fazer com eles
> depois da pessoa os ler. H? grupos que possuem uma biblioteca
> conjunta, h? grupos onde o livro passa a pertencer ? pessoa, h? grupos
> onde o livro fica permanentemente com a pessoa que o l? mas esta se
> compromete a emprest?-lo a quem o requisitar...
MEU, mas EMPRESTO em troca de uma PINT no Irish.

>
> Enfim, teremos que decidir o que fazer. N?o precisamos decidir j?, ?
> ?bvio, mas quis explicar aqui isto para que toda a gente saiba que, a
> seu tempo, decidiremos qualquer coisa em conjunto :-)
HUMM, OK :)

>
> E sim, suponho que possamos ter mais que uma pessoa a fazer reviews do
> mesmo livro :-)
HUMM, que tal review de review. (isto demora mais tempo)

>
> E ent?o? Que me dizem de vossa justi?a? :-)
NADA :D

>
> Querem livros? :-)
SIM, repito:
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlsysadm/

>
> jac
Fac (you) ehhe

>
> --
> Jose Alves de Castro <cog at cpan.org>
>       http://jose-castro.org/
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> Viana-pm mailing list
> Viana-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/viana-pm
PUB

Francisco Alves Cabrita <include at npf.pt.freebsd.org>
	http://npf.pt.freebsd.org/~include/

TOMA tb tenho :D

PS: hoje tou de mau humor heheeh
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