From nick at unfortu.net  Fri Jul 19 16:16:58 2002
From: nick at unfortu.net (Nicholas Clark)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:10:56 2004
Subject: Perl 5.8.0 is released
Message-ID: <20020719211656.GC303@Bagpuss.unfortu.net>

In case you've not read use.perl, slashdot, the london.pm list or anything
else carrying the news, Perl 5.8.0 is out.

It has now escaped to various CPAN mirrors (although not ftp.demon.net last
time I checked.)

However, the fine folks at flirble.org have it on their mirror (located in
Soho, and well connected), accessible via both http and ftp:

    http://cpan.m.flirble.org/src/perl-5.8.0.tar.gz
    ftp://cpan.m.flirble.org/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.0.tar.gz

You can use IPv6 to get it, or IPv4 if you really must. :-)

$ host -t aaaa cpan.m.flirble.org
cpan.m.flirble.org      CNAME   philes.flirble.org
philes.flirble.org      AAAA    2001:6F8:604:0:0:0:0:1
$ host cpan.m.flirble.org
cpan.m.flirble.org      CNAME   philes.flirble.org
philes.flirble.org      A       194.70.3.50

The release announcement is at http://dev.perl.org/perl5/ in English, Chinese
(both simplified and traditional) Japanese and Korean.

[Time to test how well your browser displays 16 bit fonts]

Nicholas Clark

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From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
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Subject: Perl 5.8.0

    There was the faint sound of footsteps.
    "Chap with a whip got as far as the big sharp spikes last week,"
    said the low priest.
    There was a sound like the flushing of a very old dry lavatory.
    The footsteps stopped.  The High Priest smiled to himself.
    "Right," he said.  "See your two pebbles and raise you two pebbles."
    The low priest threw down his cards.  "Double Onion," he said.
    The High Priest looked down suspiciously.
    The low priest consulted a scrap of paper.  "That's three hundred
    thousand, nine hundred and sixty-four pebbles you owe me," he said.
    There was the sound of footsteps.  The priests exchanged glances.
    "Haven't had one for poisoned-dart alley for quite some time,"
    said the High Priest.
    "Five says he makes it", said the low priest.  "You're on."
    There was a faint clatter of metal points on stone.
    "It's a shame to take your pebbles."
    There were footsteps again.
    -- Terry Pratchett, "Reaper Man"

This is the Perl 5.8.0.

The official announcement (for use.perl.org, for dev.perl.org/perl5,
comp.lang.perl.announce, etc.) will go out soon as enough mirrors
have picked up the tar.gz.  I'll ask the mirror sites to expedite
their mirrors.  (Yes, please, don't use.perl this yet.)

If your CPAN does not have it yet, you can pick up the release as the
snapshot 17638: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/snap/perl@17638.tgz
(note that this, as snapshots do, unpacks as directory perl/,
not as perl-5.8.0/)

As discussed, the plan is to have a Perl 5.8.1, but not before Perl
5.9.0.  I'll take some time off from p5p, to cool down my "Thanks,
applied" reflexes, and to have a life, but most importantly, to let
Hugo to grab the helm.

My thanks go to:

- Hugo van der Sanden for lacking enough self preservation
  instincts to refuse the Perl 5.9 pumpkinship
  (The pumpking is dead! Long live the pumpking!)

- perl5-porters without whom no Perl release would ever be done

- Perl users on non-mainstream platforms who helped to get Perl
  running from the tiniest PDAs to the most hulking big iron

- Nokia Research Center, Helsinki University of Technology
  Computing Center, and Center for Scientific Computing and FUNET
  for giving me resources to develop and maintain Perl

and last but foremost, my lovely wife Elaine will hopefully be glad to
have me back after two years of virtual widowhood.

<ahnold img="http://www.iki.fi/jhi/vacation.jpg">I need a vacation.</ahnold>

-- 
$jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/
        # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
        # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

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-- 
Chris Benson

From chrisb at jesmond.demon.co.uk  Fri Jul 19 17:03:38 2002
From: chrisb at jesmond.demon.co.uk (Chris Benson)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:10:56 2004
Subject: Perl 5.8.0 is released
In-Reply-To: <20020719211656.GC303@Bagpuss.unfortu.net>
References: <20020719211656.GC303@Bagpuss.unfortu.net>
Message-ID: <20020719230338.A5707@gamma.home>

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:16:58PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> In case you've not read use.perl, slashdot, the london.pm list or anything
> else carrying the news, Perl 5.8.0 is out.
> 
> It has now escaped to various CPAN mirrors (although not ftp.demon.net last
> time I checked.)
> 
> However, the fine folks at flirble.org have it on their mirror (located in
> Soho, and well connected), accessible via both http and ftp:
> 
>     http://cpan.m.flirble.org/src/perl-5.8.0.tar.gz
>     ftp://cpan.m.flirble.org/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.0.tar.gz

and it compiles:-

This is perl, v5.8.0 built for ppc-linux

And there appears to be endless documentation.  

And perldelta mentions Nick twice ;-)

And thread.pm is not built by a
	sh Configure -des
build -- so I'll have to do it again ... sometime.

Lots of good stuff in there.

[It's also get a real message instead of the usual spam ... does anyone
have and questions? comments? suggestions? ... or even start meeting
again?]
-- 
Chris Benson

From nick at unfortu.net  Fri Jul 19 17:52:50 2002
From: nick at unfortu.net (Nicholas Clark)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:10:56 2004
Subject: Perl 5.8.0 is released
In-Reply-To: <20020719230338.A5707@gamma.home>
References: <20020719211656.GC303@Bagpuss.unfortu.net> <20020719230338.A5707@gamma.home>
Message-ID: <20020719225248.GH303@Bagpuss.unfortu.net>

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 11:03:38PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:

> and it compiles:-
> 
> This is perl, v5.8.0 built for ppc-linux

Well, I have a test account on:

Linux mirth.unixbeard.net 2.4.15-pre4-ben0 #1 Thu Nov 15 12:16:13 GMT 2001 ppc unknown unknown GNU/Linux

so I've been testing it on ppc-linux as well as other things, and I know
Michael Schwern (Mr perl-qa) is building on ppc-linux, so I'd be worried if
it didn't. :-)

Your challenge (should you choose to accept it) is to find an obscure
platform which it doesn't compile on. (Someone's tested SunOS 4, and it only
fails 4 tests, mostly POSIX signals. IIRC netbsd-sparc, ia64-linux and
arm-linux are all in the OKs)

> And there appears to be endless documentation.  
> 
> And perldelta mentions Nick twice ;-)

The Changes file mentions me a few times. But it mentions this jhi bloke
a lot more times. :-)

> And thread.pm is not built by a
> 	sh Configure -des
> build -- so I'll have to do it again ... sometime.

Threads are not the default. -des gets you all the defaults.
-des -Dusethreads would get you threads.
You can install both threads and non-threads at the same time, as long as
you (well root) makes sure that each /usr/local/bin/perl is given a 
different name, as things like threads (and whether you build with 64 bit
integers rather than 32) are reflected in changes to the "architecture" name.
In plain English, that means that each variant of perl keeps its modules
compiled from C source and other private data in a separate directory.

> Lots of good stuff in there.

The documentation for 5.8.0 is probably better than that for 5.6.1 or 5.005,
so even if you're using an older version, it's probably worth checking the
new docs.

> [It's also get a real message instead of the usual spam ... does anyone
> have and questions? comments? suggestions? ... or even start meeting
> again?]

Er, pass.

Nicholas Clark
-- 
Even better than the real thing:	http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/

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-- 
Chris Benson