<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 6:06 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zoffix@zoffix.com" target="_blank">zoffix@zoffix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
Quoting Abuzar <<a href="mailto:abuzar@abuzar.com" target="_blank">abuzar@abuzar.com</a>>:<br>
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Last update was Feb 16, 2016, one year ago.<br>
Side ticker says they're still meeting every week.<br>
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Here's the release announcement:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=npjOSLCR2hE</a><br>
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MoarVM is what the kids use these days: <a href="http://moarvm.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://moarvm.com/</a><br>
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Next release coming up in less than 24 hours ;)<br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Yes, I know, and it's quite sad. I feel that between Rakudo, Moarvm, and Parrot, priority should've gone to parrot.<br><br>I see solving the social and decision-making problems during the course of parrot's development as an integral part of developing Perl. It's as much about developing culture as it is about developing language, technology, and platform (from what I'm understanding, social and decision-making challenges were contributing factors towards dysfunctional development).<br><br>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">The particular way in which Moarvm took over from Parrot, from the articles that I read online, it left a bad impression in me. It didn't sound nice, it made me feel uncomfortable and lose trust in the development team.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<br>Having many languages use the same free/open/collaborative virtual machine and inter-operate with each other and/or libraries written on different platforms is a very important goal that shouldn't have been abandoned (reading some part of the moarvm docs, I understand that it was intentionally abandoned). I feel like what folks were trying to accomplish with parrot is the natural direction that the mindset of programming in Perl takes. Not having that, feels like something crucial is missing from the perl experience, and specifically the Perl 6 development era in Perl's journey.<br><br>This whole JS thing has filled some of that gap, and the way it's being done is very corporate and puke-worthy. This is the task that should've been done with Perl, and specifically Parrot. If it had played out that way, I think we'd be seeing a different landscape in tech. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I feel that if a compromise had to be made between resourcing Perl 6 or the Parrot project, then it should've been Parrot, because the world needs Parrot a lot more than it needs Perl 6.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Abuzar </div></div>