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Hi Jordan,<br>
<br>
Strawberry Professional includes Catalyst and all common
dependencies. It's a bit bigger and still alpha, but basically it is
Strawberry standard underneath. I would be tempted to try that for a
very quick start. <br>
<br>
However, starting from a standard Strawberry install, Catalyst
should (in theory) install with the usual:<br>
<br>
cpan Task::CatInABox<br>
<br>
Beware that some modules do not install cleanly under Windows. They
do run under Windows fine - at least, we've been using them fine in
production for a few years now. I don't use Strawberry myself, as I
compile Perl without fork for performance, and anyway threading is
pointless under Windows/IIS. But effectively I use the same compiler
and processes, and I probably will switch now that a 64-bit
Strawberry is out. <br>
<br>
We've got Catalyst, OpenSSL, XML::LibXML, and all sorts of fun stuff
working well under Windows Server 2003/IIS. Email me if you need
more pointers. <br>
<br>
--S<br>
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On 9/21/2010 3:06 PM, Dave Doyle wrote:
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<div>Hey Jordan,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Actually, I have no actual experience with Strawberry Perl or
Catalyst on windows. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have setup a CGI::App system using ActiveState Perl and
Apache2 on windows back in the day. My knowledge is severely
outdated now. My suggestion of Strawberry was purely from
reading.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>From what I understand, Strawberry Perl is superior to
ActiveState in that it has the full stack of tools needed to
compile modules (as opposed to precompiled PPM packages, of
which ActiveState maintains and incomplete archive of CPAN). If
I recall, ActiveState wasn't able to package some things because
of licensing (Crypt::SSLeay I think). I've not played with it
though. I've only ever deployed Catalyst on Linux/Solaris but
we're using the latest and greatest 5.8.x series to get the
Moosey goodness. I'm afraid you'd have to experiment. I've no
idea how to get Strawberry Perl to play nice with IIS if that's
your server (we used the ISAPI plugin to IIS from Activestate)
so you may want to try Apache2. I don't know what other
alternatives you have at the moment.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>D</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM, J Z Tam
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jztam@yahoo.com">jztam@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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<td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Dave, <br>
IIRC, you had mentioned that on WindoZe server OS,
it would be easier/doable to set up Catalyst using
Strawberry Perl. If so, which versions of each are
working for you?<br>
Thanks in advance. <br>
Jordan<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Tue, 9/21/10, Dave Doyle <i><<a
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wrote:<br>
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<br>
From: Dave Doyle <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com"
target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tpm] Why perl lost steam...<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Martin@Cleaver.org">"Martin@Cleaver.org"</a> <<a
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href="mailto:Martin@cleaver.org" target="_blank">Martin@cleaver.org</a>><br>
Cc: "Toronto Perl Mongers" <<a
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Received: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:14 AM
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<div class="h5"><br>
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<div>While I do believe Perl has lost steam in
the publics eye, I don't buy the hype. CPAN
is growing faster and faster (it's a curve).
This year's YAPC had about 70% of folk
going to their first or second YAPC. The
ecosystem itself is doing just fine.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That being said, I've looked and Django
and Rails and they ain't my thing (neither
is Catalyst for that matter). But there are
other options like Mojolicious and Dancer
and as far as I'm concerned CGI::App still
gets the stuff done. I think Dancer would
be an excellent way for newbies to get
started in webdev in Perl.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Martin@Cleaver.org">Martin@Cleaver.org</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a
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wrote:<br>
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I'd contend that building a Web app in
Groovy on Grails is where beginners should
start.<br>
<br>
Grails is one (not several competing) Web
Framework, Groovy is Java and J2EE
compliant, yet a scripting language with
closures and implicit parallel programming
support. Together they give you scripting
access to all the J2EE components
developed over the past decade while
hiding the crappy verboseness of XML and
Java.<br>
<br>
Building a Web App? As much I know and
like Perl I wouldn't start a new Web App
in one.
<div><br>
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+1 416-786-6752 (GMT-5)<br>
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<div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:36 AM,
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> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at
4:39 PM, Bill Stephenson <<a
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> wrote:<br>
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<div>>> It would seem that
right now, when "Web Apps" are
really coming into<br>
>> their own, CGI scripts
written in Perl would be the
place that<br>
>> "Beginners" would start
looking.<br>
>><br>
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But CGI is sooo '90s, and even Web
apps are passe now; it's all
smartphones.<br>
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