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    Hi Jordan,<br>
    <br>
    Strawberry Professional includes Catalyst and all common
    dependencies. It's a bit bigger and still alpha, but basically it is
    Strawberry standard underneath. I would be tempted to try that for a
    very quick start. <br>
    <br>
    However, starting from a standard Strawberry install, Catalyst
    should (in theory) install with the usual:<br>
    <br>
    cpan Task::CatInABox<br>
    <br>
    Beware that some modules do not install cleanly under Windows. They
    do run under Windows fine - at least, we've been using them fine in
    production for a few years now. I don't use Strawberry myself, as I
    compile Perl without fork for performance, and anyway threading is
    pointless under Windows/IIS. But effectively I use the same compiler
    and processes, and I probably will switch now that a 64-bit
    Strawberry is out. <br>
    <br>
    We've got Catalyst, OpenSSL, XML::LibXML, and all sorts of fun stuff
    working well under Windows Server 2003/IIS. Email me if you need
    more pointers. <br>
    <br>
    --S<br>
    --<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stuart@morungos.com">stuart@morungos.com</a><br>
    twitter.com/morungos<br>
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    On 9/21/2010 3:06 PM, Dave Doyle wrote:
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      <div>Hey Jordan,</div>
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      <div>Actually, I have no actual experience with Strawberry Perl or
        Catalyst on windows. &nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I have setup a CGI::App system using ActiveState Perl and
        Apache2 on windows back in the day. &nbsp;My knowledge is severely
        outdated now. &nbsp;My suggestion of Strawberry was purely from
        reading.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>From what I understand, Strawberry Perl is superior to
        ActiveState in that it has the full stack of tools needed to
        compile modules (as opposed to precompiled PPM packages, of
        which ActiveState maintains and incomplete archive of CPAN). &nbsp;If
        I recall, ActiveState wasn't able to package some things because
        of licensing (Crypt::SSLeay I think). I've not played with it
        though. &nbsp;I've only ever deployed Catalyst on Linux/Solaris but
        we're using the latest and greatest 5.8.x series to get the
        Moosey goodness. &nbsp;I'm afraid you'd have to experiment. &nbsp;I've no
        idea how to get Strawberry Perl to play nice with IIS if that's
        your server (we used the ISAPI plugin to IIS from Activestate)
        so you may want to try Apache2. &nbsp;I don't know what other
        alternatives you have at the moment.</div>
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      <div>D</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div><br>
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      --<br clear="all">
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM, J Z Tam
        <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:jztam@yahoo.com">jztam@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Dave,&nbsp; <br>
                  IIRC,&nbsp; you had mentioned that on WindoZe server OS,&nbsp;
                  it would be easier/doable to set up Catalyst using
                  Strawberry Perl.&nbsp; If&nbsp; so, which versions of each are
                  working for you?<br>
                  Thanks in advance. <br>
                  Jordan<br>
                  <br>
                  --- On <b>Tue, 9/21/10, Dave Doyle <i>&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <br>
                    From: Dave Doyle &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                    Subject: Re: [tpm] Why perl lost steam...<br>
                    To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Martin@Cleaver.org">"Martin@Cleaver.org"</a> &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:Martin@cleaver.org" target="_blank">Martin@cleaver.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    Cc: "Toronto Perl Mongers" &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tpm@to.pm.org"
                      target="_blank">tpm@to.pm.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    Received: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:14 AM
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                          <div>While I do believe Perl has lost steam in
                            the publics eye, I don't buy the hype. &nbsp;CPAN
                            is growing faster and faster (it's a curve).
                            &nbsp;This year's YAPC had about 70% of folk
                            going to their first or second YAPC. &nbsp;The
                            ecosystem itself is doing just fine.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>That being said, I've looked and Django
                            and Rails and they ain't my thing (neither
                            is Catalyst for that matter). &nbsp;But there are
                            other options like Mojolicious and Dancer
                            and as far as I'm concerned CGI::App still
                            gets the stuff done. &nbsp;I think Dancer would
                            be an excellent way for newbies to get
                            started in webdev in Perl.</div>
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                          --<br clear="all">
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                            href="http://mc/compose?to=dave.s.doyle@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a><br>
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                          <br>
                          <div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM,
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Martin@Cleaver.org">Martin@Cleaver.org</a> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                                href="http://mc/compose?to=Martin@cleaver.org"
                                target="_blank">Martin@cleaver.org</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              I'd contend that building a Web app in
                              Groovy on Grails is where beginners should
                              start.<br>
                              <br>
                              Grails is one (not several competing) Web
                              Framework, Groovy is Java and J2EE
                              compliant, yet a scripting language with
                              closures and implicit parallel programming
                              support. Together they give you scripting
                              access to all the J2EE components
                              developed over the past decade while
                              hiding the crappy verboseness of XML and
                              Java.<br>
                              <br>
                              Building a Web App? As much I know and
                              like Perl I wouldn't start a new Web App
                              in one.
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                                M.<br clear="all">
                                --<br>
                                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Martin@Cleaver.org">Martin@Cleaver.org</a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                                  href="http://twitter.com/mrjcleaver"
                                  target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mrjcleaver</a><br>
                                +1 416-786-6752 (GMT-5)<br>
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                                  <div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:36 AM,
                                    <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="nofollow"
                                        href="http://mc/compose?to=arocker@vex.net"
                                        target="_blank">arocker@vex.net</a>&gt;</span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>&gt;<br>
                                        &gt; On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at
                                        4:39 PM, Bill Stephenson &lt;<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          rel="nofollow"
                                          href="http://mc/compose?to=bills@ezinvoice.com"
                                          target="_blank">bills@ezinvoice.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                        &gt; wrote:<br>
                                        <br>
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                                      <div>&gt;&gt; It would seem that
                                        right now, when "Web Apps" are
                                        really coming into<br>
                                        &gt;&gt; their own, CGI scripts
                                        written in Perl would be the
                                        place that<br>
                                        &gt;&gt; "Beginners" would start
                                        looking.<br>
                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      But CGI is sooo '90s, and even Web
                                      apps are passe now; it's all
                                      smartphones.<br>
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