From liam at holoweb.net  Mon Nov 16 14:43:58 2015
From: liam at holoweb.net (Liam R E Quin)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 17:43:58 -0500
Subject: [tpm] Solutions and kibitzers
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:45:20 -0400
arocker at Vex.Net wrote:

> It seemed to be a simple problem, parsing some sort of *ML stream, and
> wc's output on the script was  25  88 526. (6 of those 25 lines do the
> actual work.)
> 
> To my surprise, I've received all sorts of abuse for not using an XML
> parser module. (To which the poster may or may not have had easy access.)

If they had Perl they had an XML parser.

The problem with handling XML as text is that people often don't account for what seem like corner cases.

Some examples:

1. these are all the same in XML:
  <boy socks='black'></boy>
  <boy
      socks="black"
  />

  <boy  socks = "black"></boy
  >

  <boy socks="bl&#x61;ck"  />

  The following variant may or may not be the same, but is still legal:

  <boy socks='black'><!-- . . . . --></boy>

  Did you account for all of them?

2. text entities,
   <!DOCTYPE boy [
     <!ENTITY socks "black">
   ]>

   <boy socks="&socks;">

3. UTF-8 is common on Unix systems but other encodings are legal, and are signaled with
   an XML encoding declaration; did you handle them?

A five-minute hack that isn't for production is one thing; a program or production is another.

Many (not all) things you might use Perl for with XML are better done with XSLT and/or XQuery.

Liam

-- 
Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/
Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/

From liam at holoweb.net  Mon Nov 16 14:44:56 2015
From: liam at holoweb.net (Liam R E Quin)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 17:44:56 -0500
Subject: [tpm] Solutions and kibitzers
In-Reply-To: <54e9f21b309f77df7093d30ac3547e21.squirrel@mail.vex.net>
References: <54e9f21b309f77df7093d30ac3547e21.squirrel@mail.vex.net>
Message-ID: <20151116174456.70620d35@holoweb.net>

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:45:20 -0400
arocker at Vex.Net wrote:

> Would anyone care to read the discussion and comment?

Hah, and I didn't notice this mail was dated 2013, sorry for the noise!

Liam


-- 
Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/
Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/

From dave.s.doyle at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 16:05:46 2015
From: dave.s.doyle at gmail.com (Dave Doyle)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:05:46 -0500
Subject: [tpm] Google hangout for tonights meegin
Message-ID: <CAAyyWE8VMmO82Ch++4BKHis=fharY=rmX5zTHNfL_JCcrp=tYg@mail.gmail.com>

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYctoGZukvR2BmWI-yFW1XN2tlSnMzDL3gxlrKJp1laB9HnX8w?hl=en&authuser=0
--
dave.s.doyle at gmail.com
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From arocker at Vex.Net  Thu Nov 26 06:16:30 2015
From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:16:30 -0500
Subject: [tpm] A link to the lectures I mentioned last night at TPM
Message-ID: <2b456ad29e86a012c3cd64e3c16b53a2.squirrel@mail.vybenetworks.com>

https://www.hpematter.com/event/chua-lectures-first-12-part-series-hp-labs