From arocker at Vex.Net Tue Jun 4 07:04:26 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:04:26 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother Message-ID: <52be743b9b5ca7886ae8cc32fa5a77c4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> >> We have the efficient and talented Michelle Warren bookable for >> either of the next 2 events. June 27 or July 25. I expect she'd like some sort of a decision soon. I'm likely to be away for July, though I can lend the passcard to someone responsible, if it's needed. Fulko may be away for September, so possibly the "Lightning Talks" would be better in October? Stuart's spreadsheet still awaits further entries. The visit Jordan suggested to a "maker" site should be before November, for obvious reasons, but needs a couple of months notice. I'd expected more responses. If they don't happen, does that indicate enough apathy that we're wasting our time? From rdice at pobox.com Tue Jun 4 07:11:34 2013 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:11:34 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother In-Reply-To: <52be743b9b5ca7886ae8cc32fa5a77c4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <52be743b9b5ca7886ae8cc32fa5a77c4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: For what it's worth, I have recently confirmed with Damian Conway that he will be in Toronto the week of August 3-9, and he will present at least one public talk in that time period. So maybe this would do for either a July or an August meeting topic... Cheers... On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM, wrote: > > >> We have the efficient and talented Michelle Warren bookable for > >> either of the next 2 events. June 27 or July 25. > > I expect she'd like some sort of a decision soon. > > I'm likely to be away for July, though I can lend the passcard to someone > responsible, if it's needed. Fulko may be away for September, so possibly > the "Lightning Talks" would be better in October? > > Stuart's spreadsheet still awaits further entries. > > The visit Jordan suggested to a "maker" site should be before November, > for obvious reasons, but needs a couple of months notice. > > I'd expected more responses. If they don't happen, does that indicate > enough apathy that we're wasting our time? > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Tue Jun 4 07:51:18 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:51:18 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother In-Reply-To: <52be743b9b5ca7886ae8cc32fa5a77c4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <52be743b9b5ca7886ae8cc32fa5a77c4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: <897DE07E-8EFA-4715-8E3C-096F86C1677D@stok.ca> On 2013-06-04, at 10:04 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > >>> We have the efficient and talented Michelle Warren bookable for >>> either of the next 2 events. June 27 or July 25. > > I expect she'd like some sort of a decision soon. If we were to have her this month then how many people would be interested in attending? I would show up for that. If there are more than 6 people then we should get her booked. If that doesn't work we could have a YAPC::NA debrief this month and get Michelle in in July. Maybe we can use Damian's early August talk as our late late July event. > I'm likely to be away for July, though I can lend the passcard to someone > responsible, if it's needed. Fulko may be away for September, so possibly > the "Lightning Talks" would be better in October? If Fulko's away in September then we can use a stand-in emcee, I'll volunteer needed and if nobody else does. > Stuart's spreadsheet still awaits further entries. > > The visit Jordan suggested to a "maker" site should be before November, > for obvious reasons, but needs a couple of months notice. > > I'd expected more responses. If they don't happen, does that indicate > enough apathy that we're wasting our time That looks to me like we have three out of the next 4 months covered, we just need to get a talk together for the "real" August meeting. Can anyone interested in hearing Michelle please send something to the list so we can get a virtual show of hands? Can Alan or Stuart re-post a link to Stuart's spreadsheet so it is easier for people to look at it? Mike -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From jztam at yahoo.com Tue Jun 4 07:59:21 2013 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother In-Reply-To: <897DE07E-8EFA-4715-8E3C-096F86C1677D@stok.ca> Message-ID: <1370357961.88236.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Pasted as requested.? /jordan From: Stuart Watt Subject: [tpm] Future meeting suggestions To: "Toronto PerlMongers" Received: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:25 AM Hi all Following up on Alan's idea, can I suggest something like a shared spreadsheet for talk suggestions? It's so much easier to converge on a schedule when we have a common view. I've started the ball rolling, but I'm happy to add more. If everyone adds an item or two we'll have an agenda in no time. I can do Grails for this month if really necessary, but I have a deadline or two, so it'll be better in a future month.? URL:?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar5vAAGHtrjadFBkbWphMmJzS1BfQUNXVmFzV0RZblE&usp=sharing Do feel free to shoot me if you think this is a totally stupid idea All the bestStuart --- On Tue, 6/4/13, Mike Stok wrote: From: Mike Stok Subject: Re: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother To: arocker at Vex.Net Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Tuesday, June 4, 2013, 10:51 AM On 2013-06-04, at 10:04 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > >>>???We have the efficient and talented Michelle Warren? bookable for >>> either of the next 2 events.? June 27 or July 25. > > I expect she'd like some sort of a decision soon. If we were to have her this month then how many people would be interested in attending? I would show up for that. If there are more than 6 people then we should get her booked. If that doesn't work we could have a YAPC::NA debrief this month and get Michelle in in July. Maybe we can use Damian's early August talk as our late late July event. > I'm likely to be away for July, though I can lend the passcard to someone > responsible, if it's needed. Fulko may be away for September, so possibly > the "Lightning Talks" would be better in October? If Fulko's away in September then we can use a stand-in emcee, I'll volunteer needed and if nobody else does. > Stuart's spreadsheet still awaits further entries. > > The visit Jordan suggested to a "maker" site should be before November, > for obvious reasons, but needs a couple of months notice. > > I'd expected more responses. If they don't happen, does that indicate > enough apathy that we're wasting our time That looks to me like we have three out of the next 4 months covered, we just need to get a talk together for the "real" August meeting. Can anyone interested in hearing Michelle please send something to the list so we can get a virtual show of hands? Can Alan or Stuart re-post a link to Stuart's spreadsheet so it is easier for people to look at it? Mike -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Tue Jun 4 09:08:13 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:08:13 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother In-Reply-To: <1370357961.88236.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1370357961.88236.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jordan, Does anyone else have problems editing the spreadsheet (I'll admit I'm using Safari, not Chrome, but I want to keep as much Google herpes off my laptop as possible...) Mike On 2013-06-04, at 10:59 AM, J Z Tam wrote: > > Pasted as requested. /jordan > > From: Stuart Watt > Subject: [tpm] Future meeting suggestions > To: "Toronto PerlMongers" > Received: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:25 AM > > Hi all > > Following up on Alan's idea, can I suggest something like a shared spreadsheet for talk suggestions? It's so much easier to converge on a schedule when we have a common view. I've started the ball rolling, but I'm happy to add more. If everyone adds an item or two we'll have an agenda in no time. I can do Grails for this month if really necessary, but I have a deadline or two, so it'll be better in a future month. > > URL: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar5vAAGHtrjadFBkbWphMmJzS1BfQUNXVmFzV0RZblE&usp=sharing > > Do feel free to shoot me if you think this is a totally stupid idea > > All the best > Stuart > > --- On Tue, 6/4/13, Mike Stok wrote: > > From: Mike Stok > Subject: Re: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother > To: arocker at Vex.Net > Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org > Received: Tuesday, June 4, 2013, 10:51 AM > > > On 2013-06-04, at 10:04 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > > > >>> We have the efficient and talented Michelle Warren bookable for > >>> either of the next 2 events. June 27 or July 25. > > > > I expect she'd like some sort of a decision soon. > > If we were to have her this month then how many people would be interested in attending? I would show up for that. If there are more than 6 people then we should get her booked. If that doesn't work we could have a YAPC::NA debrief this month and get Michelle in in July. > > Maybe we can use Damian's early August talk as our late late July event. > > > I'm likely to be away for July, though I can lend the passcard to someone > > responsible, if it's needed. Fulko may be away for September, so possibly > > the "Lightning Talks" would be better in October? > > If Fulko's away in September then we can use a stand-in emcee, I'll volunteer needed and if nobody else does. > > > Stuart's spreadsheet still awaits further entries. > > > > The visit Jordan suggested to a "maker" site should be before November, > > for obvious reasons, but needs a couple of months notice. > > > > I'd expected more responses. If they don't happen, does that indicate > > enough apathy that we're wasting our time > > That looks to me like we have three out of the next 4 months covered, we just need to get a talk together for the "real" August meeting. > > Can anyone interested in hearing Michelle please send something to the list so we can get a virtual show of hands? > > Can Alan or Stuart re-post a link to Stuart's spreadsheet so it is easier for people to look at it? > > Mike > > -- > > Mike Stok > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Tue Jun 4 09:22:57 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:22:57 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother In-Reply-To: References: <1370357961.88236.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2F1074CA-3BB9-4607-B07C-C04D48379A86@stok.ca> The spreadsheet is now editable :-) Mike On 2013-06-04, at 12:08 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > Thanks Jordan, > > Does anyone else have problems editing the spreadsheet (I'll admit I'm using Safari, not Chrome, but I want to keep as much Google herpes off my laptop as possible...) > > Mike > > On 2013-06-04, at 10:59 AM, J Z Tam wrote: > >> >> Pasted as requested. /jordan >> >> From: Stuart Watt >> Subject: [tpm] Future meeting suggestions >> To: "Toronto PerlMongers" >> Received: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:25 AM >> >> Hi all >> >> Following up on Alan's idea, can I suggest something like a shared spreadsheet for talk suggestions? It's so much easier to converge on a schedule when we have a common view. I've started the ball rolling, but I'm happy to add more. If everyone adds an item or two we'll have an agenda in no time. I can do Grails for this month if really necessary, but I have a deadline or two, so it'll be better in a future month. >> >> URL: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar5vAAGHtrjadFBkbWphMmJzS1BfQUNXVmFzV0RZblE&usp=sharing >> >> Do feel free to shoot me if you think this is a totally stupid idea >> >> All the best >> Stuart >> >> --- On Tue, 6/4/13, Mike Stok wrote: >> >> From: Mike Stok >> Subject: Re: [tpm] Get organised or don't bother >> To: arocker at Vex.Net >> Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org >> Received: Tuesday, June 4, 2013, 10:51 AM >> >> >> On 2013-06-04, at 10:04 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: >> >> > >> >>> We have the efficient and talented Michelle Warren bookable for >> >>> either of the next 2 events. June 27 or July 25. >> > >> > I expect she'd like some sort of a decision soon. >> >> If we were to have her this month then how many people would be interested in attending? I would show up for that. If there are more than 6 people then we should get her booked. If that doesn't work we could have a YAPC::NA debrief this month and get Michelle in in July. >> >> Maybe we can use Damian's early August talk as our late late July event. >> >> > I'm likely to be away for July, though I can lend the passcard to someone >> > responsible, if it's needed. Fulko may be away for September, so possibly >> > the "Lightning Talks" would be better in October? >> >> If Fulko's away in September then we can use a stand-in emcee, I'll volunteer needed and if nobody else does. >> >> > Stuart's spreadsheet still awaits further entries. >> > >> > The visit Jordan suggested to a "maker" site should be before November, >> > for obvious reasons, but needs a couple of months notice. >> > >> > I'd expected more responses. If they don't happen, does that indicate >> > enough apathy that we're wasting our time >> >> That looks to me like we have three out of the next 4 months covered, we just need to get a talk together for the "real" August meeting. >> >> Can anyone interested in hearing Michelle please send something to the list so we can get a virtual show of hands? >> >> Can Alan or Stuart re-post a link to Stuart's spreadsheet so it is easier for people to look at it? >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> >> Mike Stok >> http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ >> >> The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -- > > Mike Stok > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arocker at Vex.Net Tue Jun 4 13:51:08 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:51:08 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A book worth serious consideration Message-ID: <9d47e6f55e57136b28c87f949efba4a0.squirrel@mail.vex.net> The Creative Destruction of Medicine. How the Digital Revolution Will Create Better Health Care Eric Topol http://www.pbgtoolkit.com/book.php?isbn=9780465025503 In the Toronto Public Library http://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/detail.jsp?Entt=RDM2873327&R=2873327 US-centric, but the problems he describes are universal. I'm not sure I agree with some of his optimism, particularly the enthusiasm for electronic patient records. They strike me as the medical equivalent of the "Totally Integrated Management Information System", a buzz-phrase only a few of you will be old enough to remember, which remains a chimera to this day. (In the mythical, rather than biological sense.) Opinions sought from anyone qualified, (even than as a victim of the sickness industry.) From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Jun 7 08:42:06 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:42:06 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? Message-ID: For this month, and the next 3 or 4? From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 08:42:54 2013 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:42:54 -0400 Subject: [tpm] PAR::Packer and cygwin Message-ID: After a lot of fighting... I've made some progress on my battle of using PAR to package my app on various OSs. [I've gotten something built on Solaris and now I just have to find out how to make a proper pkgadd package out of it.] But my question of the day is really the MS Windows / Cygwin environment. I hope you (or anyone else) can help... When I run my Cygwin/PAR application under a DOS shell (with PATH also pointing to c:\cygwin\bin) it now actually starts my app, but it immediately dies with: Can't locate File/Temp.pm in @INC ... Is it because of slash versus backslash? Is it because @INC contains entries like /usr/lib/perl5... Is it because the @INC entries are rooted at '/' and Windows doesn't understand that and Cygwin modules aren't kicking in? Any clues? Fulko PS: For those not privy to my earlier background discussions: - I can't use Strawberry Perl because some of the modules I need don't work under it, only works under Cygwin Perl. - I'm trying to make a single executable for distribution (that's what PAR is for) - It needs to be invokable from DOS (srvany) and not from within CYGWIN's terminal window -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indy at indigostar.com Fri Jun 7 09:39:31 2013 From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:39:31 -0400 Subject: [tpm] PAR::Packer and cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9648826D25704EF389A719B19DF52E8F@indy> Open a shell and use ls and/or find to locate where File/Temp.pm is located. Likely the C:\ will be represented as /c/. Add that path to your @INC variable with a begin or use lib statement. However your application is not going to be portable to another machine where this folder and file does not exist. Perhaps you need to make sure that the file is packaged into the application to start with. Perhaps add an explicit ?use File::Temp;? statement. Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com From: Fulko Hew Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:42 AM To: Stuart Watt Cc: TPM Subject: [tpm] PAR::Packer and cygwin After a lot of fighting... I've made some progress on my battle of using PAR to package my app on various OSs. [I've gotten something built on Solaris and now I just have to find out how to make a proper pkgadd package out of it.] But my question of the day is really the MS Windows / Cygwin environment. I hope you (or anyone else) can help... When I run my Cygwin/PAR application under a DOS shell (with PATH also pointing to c:\cygwin\bin) it now actually starts my app, but it immediately dies with: Can't locate File/Temp.pm in @INC ... Is it because of slash versus backslash? Is it because @INC contains entries like /usr/lib/perl5... Is it because the @INC entries are rooted at '/' and Windows doesn't understand that and Cygwin modules aren't kicking in? Any clues? 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There are some suggestions at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar5vAAGHtrjadFBkbWphMmJzS1BfQUNXVmFzV0RZblE#gid=0 Who from the group has gone to YAPC::NA and could give a review? If there is someone or sometwo then we can easily do the YAPC::NA debrief this month. Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 10:28:31 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:28:31 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <764E75C3-9BA3-4CD8-BBAE-8FCEBEF6213A@gmail.com> On 2013-06-07, at 12:47 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > > On 2013-06-07, at 11:42 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > >> For this month, and the next 3 or 4? > > There are some suggestions at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar5vAAGHtrjadFBkbWphMmJzS1BfQUNXVmFzV0RZblE#gid=0 > > Who from the group has gone to YAPC::NA and could give a review? If there is someone or sometwo then we can easily do the YAPC::NA debrief this month. Matt and I were both at YAPC::NA. I'm happy to talk about it. Even if Matt's not available, I can fill an evening easily. :) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From mike at stok.ca Fri Jun 7 10:51:15 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:51:15 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A38DEE-54B8-4C14-AB9C-79D3BEAB1223@stok.ca> Thanks Olaf, I'll update the web site and note that Matt is "possible". Mike On 2013-06-07, at 12:47 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > > On 2013-06-07, at 11:42 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > >> For this month, and the next 3 or 4? > > There are some suggestions at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar5vAAGHtrjadFBkbWphMmJzS1BfQUNXVmFzV0RZblE#gid=0 > > Who from the group has gone to YAPC::NA and could give a review? If there is someone or sometwo then we can easily do the YAPC::NA debrief this month. > > Mike > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -- > > Mike Stok > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > > > -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Jun 7 12:33:35 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:33:35 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? In-Reply-To: <40A38DEE-54B8-4C14-AB9C-79D3BEAB1223@stok.ca> References: <40A38DEE-54B8-4C14-AB9C-79D3BEAB1223@stok.ca> Message-ID: <2c13f8b2d1edfdfd3b225e1fcc1bcd3b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> > > I'll update the web site and note that Matt is "possible". > That's good; at least we have one month settled. What about the lady who might be available for July? Outside speakers are good; they keep us from getting bored listening to each other. Can we guarantee an audience to make it worthwhile for her and not embarrassing for us? There's also Jordan's suggestion of a visit to a "Maker" site, but that needs clear notice at least a couple of months in advance. Is there somebody available to relieve Mike of the organising duties, (and me of being the whine-merchant). From jztam at yahoo.com Fri Jun 7 13:22:12 2013 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] July 25th, 2013 TPM Meeting In-Reply-To: <2c13f8b2d1edfdfd3b225e1fcc1bcd3b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: <1370636532.22584.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> July 25th 2013 Meeting.? Outside Speaker::Topic Selection. ? Dear TPM, If my respected fellow mongeren could reply to the list about what YOU would like to hear and participate about, please chime in.? Michelle is very agile and quick on her feet about topic selection, but we will all have a better experience if we tailor the gig to our liking. ? To aid us getting there, I've Cc:'d Michelle on this particular thread, so feel free to ask for anything you have seen here: ??? http://www.michellewarren.ca/ ? Hey Michelle, ?? Be suggestively assertive and efficient. Thanks. ? /jordan wrote: --- On Fri, 6/7/13, arocker at Vex.Net From: arocker at Vex.Net Subject: Re: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? To: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Friday, June 7, 2013, 3:33 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jztam at yahoo.com Fri Jun 7 13:28:02 2013 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? In-Reply-To: <2c13f8b2d1edfdfd3b225e1fcc1bcd3b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: <1370636882.56659.YahooMailClassic@web120906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Correction: Regarding the "maker shop" field trip to http://site3.ca???? Even a few days notice, ... say the Monday of the week, is enough notice for the Makers themselves.? If I get a group of 4 or more interested people, we could possibly book the field trip for a different Thursday of the month. Thursday happens to be THEIR open house weeknight is all. The only reason I was hype about last month was due to their unadvertized 'special guest'. ;-) --- On Fri, 6/7/13, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: From: arocker at Vex.Net Subject: Re: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? To: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Friday, June 7, 2013, 3:33 PM > > I'll update the web site and note that Matt is "possible". > That's good; at least we have one month settled. What about the lady who might be available for July? Outside speakers are good; they keep us from getting bored listening to each other. Can we guarantee an audience to make it worthwhile for her and not embarrassing for us? There's also Jordan's suggestion of a visit to a "Maker" site, but that needs clear notice at least a couple of months in advance. 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Well done! > > [I've gotten something built on Solaris and now I just have to find out > how to make a proper pkgadd package out of it.] > > But my question of the day is really the MS Windows / Cygwin environment. > I hope you (or anyone else) can help? > A few notes below. > > When I run my Cygwin/PAR application under a DOS shell > (with PATH also pointing to c:\cygwin\bin) it now actually > starts my app, but it immediately dies with: > > Can't locate File/Temp.pm in @INC ... > > Is it because of slash versus backslash? As a rule, all the versions of Windows that matter understand forward slashes anyway. So the syntax is just fine. On Windows, I used / for everything. The only issue is that when you get a pathname back from Perl, it might contain \ characters, so I used a *lot* of s{\\}{/}g in my file access logic when I wanted stuff to be portable. > Is it because @INC contains entries like /usr/lib/perl5? Very possible. I think cygwin does some funny path hacking, and maps stuff like /usr/... to some other place on the file system. As a rule, cygwin binaries need to be run under cygwin to overcome this. So you can probably par stuff up, but they will still only run on a cygwin runtime, not a straight Windows command line. > Is it because the @INC entries are rooted at '/' and Windows > doesn't understand that and Cygwin modules aren't kicking in? Which is part of the issue above. So yes, even if you build a par, it'll only run under a cygwin runtime. What you might be able to do is use something like the NSIS installer to package up a cygwin runtime and the par file. That's a lot of work, and from what I recall there were some license oddities in cygwin which made that problematic. However, I did find this (at: http://www.ghettocode.net/perl/PARPackerHowTo) So you (a) this might be fun, and (b) the second build of Perl might be an issue. > 2. Don't use this on a system with Cygwin. > - If you can get this working, you're god damn awesome. > Cygwin takes the liberty of installing a second build > of Perl in $PATH and completely fucks up your lib path. > Uninstalling Cygwin is not really an adventure in > awesome. Just don't do it. > > Any clues? > > Fulko > > PS: For those not privy to my earlier background discussions: > > - I can't use Strawberry Perl because some of the modules I need > don't work under it, only works under Cygwin Perl. > > - I'm trying to make a single executable for distribution > (that's what PAR is for) > > - It needs to be invokable from DOS (srvany) and not from within > CYGWIN's terminal window I will personally and publicly call you "god damn awesome" if you manage this. -- Stuart Watt stuart at morungos.com / -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can pretty much speak about any topic as they relate to those two areas. ?If you?d like further information or more details, just let me know. ?Thanks and I?m looking forward to meeting you,Michelle ? ?From: J Z Tam [mailto:jztam at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:22 PM To: toronto-pm at pm.org; michelle at michellewarren.ca Subject: July 25th, 2013 TPM Meeting ?July 25th 2013 Meeting.? Outside Speaker::Topic Selection. ?Dear TPM,If my respected fellow mongeren could reply to the list about what YOU would like to hear and participate about, please chime in.? Michelle is very agile and quick on her feet about topic selection, but we will all have a better experience if we tailor the gig to our liking.?To aid us getting there, I've Cc:'d Michelle on this particular thread, so feel free to ask for anything you have seen here:??? http://www.michellewarren.ca/?Hey Michelle, ?? Be suggestively assertive and efficient. Thanks.?/jordan wrote: --- On Fri, 6/7/13, arocker at Vex.Net From: arocker at Vex.Net Subject: Re: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? To: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Friday, June 7, 2013, 3:33 PM ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From michelle at michellewarren.ca Mon Jun 10 18:16:34 2013 From: michelle at michellewarren.ca (Michelle Warren) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:16:34 -0400 Subject: [tpm] July 25th, 2013 TPM Meeting In-Reply-To: <1370636532.22584.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <2c13f8b2d1edfdfd3b225e1fcc1bcd3b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> <1370636532.22584.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001e01ce6641$52126e10$f6374a30$@ca> Hi Jordan and everyone, Some topics for your consideration: Using LinkedIn in your career search Effectively communicating in the workplace Building your brand with social media My presentations revolve around career/job search and communications (writing, conversations or presentations). I can pretty much speak about any topic as they relate to those two areas. If you'd like further information or more details, just let me know. Thanks and I'm looking forward to meeting you, Michelle From: J Z Tam [mailto:jztam at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:22 PM To: toronto-pm at pm.org; michelle at michellewarren.ca Subject: July 25th, 2013 TPM Meeting July 25th 2013 Meeting. Outside Speaker::Topic Selection. Dear TPM, If my respected fellow mongeren could reply to the list about what YOU would like to hear and participate about, please chime in. Michelle is very agile and quick on her feet about topic selection, but we will all have a better experience if we tailor the gig to our liking. To aid us getting there, I've Cc:'d Michelle on this particular thread, so feel free to ask for anything you have seen here: http://www.michellewarren.ca/ Hey Michelle, Be suggestively assertive and efficient. Thanks. /jordan wrote: --- On Fri, 6/7/13, arocker at Vex.Net From: arocker at Vex.Net Subject: Re: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? 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On the windows server everything works as expected but on Apache, the javascript variables are not being initialized and the application "crashes" when going from the second page to the third. If this question is out of line, I apologize for taking up space. And if someone has time to consult I would be forever grateful. Thanks! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher R. Jones, P.Eng. 14 Oneida Avenue Toronto, ON M5J 2E3 Tel. 416-203-7465 Fax. 416-946-1005 From fifteen3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 20 11:46:47 2013 From: fifteen3 at gmail.com (Carlo Costantini) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:47 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Javascript question In-Reply-To: <20130620183808.22B6A2E8A82@xx1.develooper.com> References: <20130620183808.22B6A2E8A82@xx1.develooper.com> Message-ID: <78D5AA0DD161464EBAA63A1147C152E8@gmail.com> Chris, Can you clarify. Which Apache implementation of Javascript are you referring to? Are you running Javascript on the server to generate web pages? Or do you have web pages that have javascript in them that isn't working? Does the browser crash or the server? On Thursday, 20 June, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > This is the wrong forum to be asking but I thought someone in the > audience may be very familiar with Javascript. My question is has > the Apache implementation of Javascript been changed in recent > versions of Apache. I ask because I have a web site that works with > the Windows IIS. I have moved it to a linux server with Apache and > the javascript is not behaving the same. On the windows server > everything works as expected but on Apache, the javascript variables > are not being initialized and the application "crashes" when going > from the second page to the third. > > If this question is out of line, I apologize for taking up > space. And if someone has time to consult I would be forever grateful. > > Thanks! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Christopher R. Jones, P.Eng. > 14 Oneida Avenue > Toronto, ON > M5J 2E3 > Tel. 416-203-7465 > Fax. 416-946-1005 > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org (mailto:toronto-pm at pm.org) > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm From cj at enersave.ca Fri Jun 21 10:35:57 2013 From: cj at enersave.ca (Chris Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:35:57 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Javascript question In-Reply-To: <78D5AA0DD161464EBAA63A1147C152E8@gmail.com> References: <20130620183808.22B6A2E8A82@xx1.develooper.com> <78D5AA0DD161464EBAA63A1147C152E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20130621173631.1F41B11EE1B@xx1.develooper.com> Hello I apologize for posting this query to the mongers group. In the end I found my issue which was poor file management. Again, my apologies. At 02:46 PM 6/20/2013, Carlo Costantini wrote: >Chris, > >Can you clarify. > >Which Apache implementation of Javascript are you referring to? > >Are you running Javascript on the server to generate web pages? > >Or do you have web pages that have javascript in them that isn't working? > >Does the browser crash or the server? > > > > >On Thursday, 20 June, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > > > This is the wrong forum to be asking but I thought someone in the > > audience may be very familiar with Javascript. My question is has > > the Apache implementation of Javascript been changed in recent > > versions of Apache. I ask because I have a web site that works with > > the Windows IIS. I have moved it to a linux server with Apache and > > the javascript is not behaving the same. On the windows server > > everything works as expected but on Apache, the javascript variables > > are not being initialized and the application "crashes" when going > > from the second page to the third. > > > > If this question is out of line, I apologize for taking up > > space. And if someone has time to consult I would be forever grateful. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Christopher R. Jones, P.Eng. > > 14 Oneida Avenue > > Toronto, ON > > M5J 2E3 > > Tel. 416-203-7465 > > Fax. 416-946-1005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > toronto-pm mailing list > > toronto-pm at pm.org (mailto:toronto-pm at pm.org) > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher R. Jones, P.Eng. 14 Oneida Avenue Toronto, ON M5J 2E3 Tel. 416-203-7465 Fax. 416-946-1005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At very least it's good to be aware of how the Javascript is used (client-side, mostly) in comparison with Perl (or other languages, server-side), especially if you are going to use the two in combination. My apologies if you were aware of all this already, its just that the question lead me (possibly others) to believe otherwise. Cheers, -Bobby On 13-06-21 01:35 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > Hello > I apologize for posting this query to the mongers group. In the end I > found my issue which was poor file management. Again, my apologies. > > At 02:46 PM 6/20/2013, Carlo Costantini wrote: >> Chris, >> >> Can you clarify. >> >> Which Apache implementation of Javascript are you referring to? >> >> Are you running Javascript on the server to generate web pages? >> >> Or do you have web pages that have javascript in them that isn't working? >> >> Does the browser crash or the server? >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, 20 June, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >> >> > This is the wrong forum to be asking but I thought someone in the >> > audience may be very familiar with Javascript. My question is has >> > the Apache implementation of Javascript been changed in recent >> > versions of Apache. I ask because I have a web site that works with >> > the Windows IIS. I have moved it to a linux server with Apache and >> > the javascript is not behaving the same. On the windows server >> > everything works as expected but on Apache, the javascript variables >> > are not being initialized and the application "crashes" when going >> > from the second page to the third. >> > >> > If this question is out of line, I apologize for taking up >> > space. And if someone has time to consult I would be forever grateful. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > Christopher R. Jones, P.Eng. >> > 14 Oneida Avenue >> > Toronto, ON >> > M5J 2E3 >> > Tel. 416-203-7465 >> > Fax. 416-946-1005 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > toronto-pm mailing list >> > toronto-pm at pm.org (mailto:toronto-pm at pm.org ) >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Christopher R. Jones, P.Eng. > 14 Oneida Avenue > Toronto, ON > M5J 2E3 > Tel. 416-203-7465 > Fax. 416-946-1005 > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- https://twitter.com/jbobbylopez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Sun Jun 23 10:51:38 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:51:38 -0400 Subject: [tpm] July 25th, 2013 TPM Meeting In-Reply-To: <001e01ce6641$52126e10$f6374a30$@ca> References: <2c13f8b2d1edfdfd3b225e1fcc1bcd3b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> <1370636532.22584.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001e01ce6641$52126e10$f6374a30$@ca> Message-ID: I would be interested in communications, particularly cultural differences in the level of explicitness an humour allowed (say between European and North American styles). I am also interested in the idea of an individual's brand. MIke On 2013-06-10, at 9:16 PM, Michelle Warren wrote: > Hi Jordan and everyone, > > Some topics for your consideration: > > Using LinkedIn in your career search > Effectively communicating in the workplace > Building your brand with social media > > My presentations revolve around career/job search and communications (writing, conversations or presentations). I can pretty much speak about any topic as they relate to those two areas. > > If you?d like further information or more details, just let me know. > > Thanks and I?m looking forward to meeting you, > Michelle > > > From: J Z Tam [mailto:jztam at yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:22 PM > To: toronto-pm at pm.org; michelle at michellewarren.ca > Subject: July 25th, 2013 TPM Meeting > > July 25th 2013 Meeting. Outside Speaker::Topic Selection. > > Dear TPM, > If my respected fellow mongeren could reply to the list about what YOU would like to hear and participate about, please chime in. Michelle is very agile and quick on her feet about topic selection, but we will all have a better experience if we tailor the gig to our liking. > > To aid us getting there, I've Cc:'d Michelle on this particular thread, so feel free to ask for anything you have seen here: > http://www.michellewarren.ca/ > > Hey Michelle, > Be suggestively assertive and efficient. Thanks. > > /jordan > > wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 6/7/13, arocker at Vex.Net From: arocker at Vex.Net > Subject: Re: [tpm] Do we have a schedule? > To: toronto-pm at pm.org > Received: Friday, June 7, 2013, 3:33 PM > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Matt however might be able to say something or other =) On 6/23/2013 2:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > We currently have Olaf and maybe Mark slated to talk about YAPC::NA. > Anyone else I need to add to the roster? > > Mike > > -- > > Mike Stok > > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mark Jubenville ioncache at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Sun Jun 23 19:22:25 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:22:25 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Anyone else up for presenting on Thursday? In-Reply-To: <51C78D19.8070809@gmail.com> References: <51C78D19.8070809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1EFA8E20-01A6-44F9-9B3E-33FC25020AF9@stok.ca> On 2013-06-23, at 8:04 PM, Mark Jubenville wrote: > Alas it is not me who will be speaking as I wasn't able to go this year. > > Matt however might be able to say something or other =) > > On 6/23/2013 2:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: >> We currently have Olaf and maybe Mark slated to talk about YAPC::NA. Anyone else I need to add to the roster? >> >> Mike Good catch. The problem is you guys look so alike I get you confused. Sorry Mark (and Matt). Mike -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ioncache at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 04:41:55 2013 From: ioncache at gmail.com (Mark Jubenville) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:41:55 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Anyone else up for presenting on Thursday? In-Reply-To: <1EFA8E20-01A6-44F9-9B3E-33FC25020AF9@stok.ca> References: <51C78D19.8070809@gmail.com> <1EFA8E20-01A6-44F9-9B3E-33FC25020AF9@stok.ca> Message-ID: <51C83083.5040803@gmail.com> It's so true, just like brothers we are. On 6/23/2013 10:22 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > > On 2013-06-23, at 8:04 PM, Mark Jubenville > wrote: > >> Alas it is not me who will be speaking as I wasn't able to go this year. >> >> Matt however might be able to say something or other =) >> >> On 6/23/2013 2:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: >>> We currently have Olaf and maybe Mark slated to talk about YAPC::NA. >>> Anyone else I need to add to the roster? >>> >>> Mike > > Good catch. The problem is you guys look so alike I get you confused. > Sorry Mark (and Matt). > > Mike > > -- > > Mike Stok > > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > > > -- Mark Jubenville ioncache at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you haven't been to a meeting before, this is a good chance to come out and meet some new people. The format will be pretty informal, so you can interrupt me at any point to ask questions, disagree with me etc. I know the attendance at the meetings has been a bit up and down, so if you've been on the fence about attending lately, please do come out for a couple of hours. As part of the evening, I suspect we can have a discussion on the agenda for future meetings and what we can do to keep things interesting for people. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From antoniosun at lavabit.com Mon Jun 24 07:57:11 2013 From: antoniosun at lavabit.com (Antonio Sun) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:57:11 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice write up Olaf, very convincing. I was on the fence actually, but decided to attend this time to check out YAPC. Your message really make me happy about my choice. Thanks. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > I'm going to be talking about YAPC::NA 2013 at this week's meeting. I > believe Matt may be doing the same. If you haven't been to one of these > before, it may sound boring but that's actually not the case. I'll have > slides prepared and I'll be going over some of the interesting things that > I learned while over there. If you didn't make it to YAPC this year, > you'll get the benefit of some cool tips you may not otherwise have picked > up on. Also, it may give you an idea about which of the talk videos that > have already been posted you may want to go back and see (or not see). > Actually, all of the stuff I went to was well worth it, so I won't have > any "don't bother with this talk" caveats. > > If you haven't been to a meeting before, this is a good chance to come out > and meet some new people. The format will be pretty informal, so you can > interrupt me at any point to ask questions, disagree with me etc. > > I know the attendance at the meetings has been a bit up and down, so if > you've been on the fence about attending lately, please do come out for a > couple of hours. As part of the evening, I suspect we can have a > discussion on the agenda for future meetings and what we can do to keep > things interesting for people. > > Olaf > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf.alders at gmail.com > > http://www.wundercounter.com > http://twitter.com/wundercounter > > 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) > 416 944 8306 (direct) > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toddr at cpanel.net Mon Jun 24 08:00:10 2013 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:00:10 -0500 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > I'm going to be talking about YAPC::NA 2013 at this week's meeting. I believe Matt may be doing the same. If you haven't been to one of these before, it may sound boring but that's actually not the case. I'll have slides prepared and I'll be going over some of the interesting things that I learned while over there. If you didn't make it to YAPC this year, you'll get the benefit of some cool tips you may not otherwise have picked up on. Also, it may give you an idea about which of the talk videos that have already been posted you may want to go back and see (or not see). Actually, all of the stuff I went to was well worth it, so I won't have any "don't bother with this talk" caveats. > > If you haven't been to a meeting before, this is a good chance to come out and meet some new people. The format will be pretty informal, so you can interrupt me at any point to ask questions, disagree with me etc. > > I know the attendance at the meetings has been a bit up and down, so if you've been on the fence about attending lately, please do come out for a couple of hours. As part of the evening, I suspect we can have a discussion on the agenda for future meetings and what we can do to keep things interesting for people. > I'll attend if you do a G+ hangout for it. Todd From olaf.alders at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 08:03:33 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:03:33 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> Message-ID: On 2013-06-24, at 11:00 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I'll attend if you do a G+ hangout for it. > > Todd Nice. :) We've been meaning to try something like this. I guess this would be a good month to test drive a G+ hangout. Bandwidth in the rooms is good, right? What's the best way to go about this? Just share the screen and audio via the hangout? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From olaf.alders at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 08:04:34 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:04:34 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <661EFE9C-6BE2-4CEB-B845-DE5CEB60DD54@gmail.com> On 2013-06-24, at 10:57 AM, Antonio Sun wrote: > Nice write up Olaf, very convincing. I was on the fence actually, but decided to attend this time to check out YAPC. Your message really make me happy about my choice. Thanks. Hi Antonio, That's great! I look forward to seeing you there. :) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From toddr at cpanel.net Mon Jun 24 08:08:46 2013 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:08:46 -0500 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> Message-ID: On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2013-06-24, at 11:00 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > >> I'll attend if you do a G+ hangout for it. >> >> Todd > > Nice. :) We've been meaning to try something like this. I guess this would be a good month to test drive a G+ hangout. Bandwidth in the rooms is good, right? What's the best way to go about this? Just share the screen and audio via the hangout? > Yep. I'd also suggest setting up a G+ event with proper time zoned time. Make sure you use advanced to specify the location as a Hangout. This will create the link used for the event. Once you've done this, I'd be interested in promoting the hangout to a wider audience. Non-geocentric perl monger meetings has been an interest to me for a while. Todd From antoniosun at lavabit.com Mon Jun 24 08:58:11 2013 From: antoniosun at lavabit.com (Antonio Sun) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:58:11 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > Nice. :) We've been meaning to try something like this. I guess this > would be a good month to test drive a G+ hangout. Bandwidth in the rooms > is good, right? What's the best way to go about this? Just share the > screen and audio via the hangout? > > > > Yep. I'd also suggest setting up a G+ event with proper time zoned time. > Make sure you use advanced to specify the location as a Hangout. This will > create the link used for the event. Once you've done this, I'd be > interested in promoting the hangout to a wider audience. Non-geocentric > perl monger meetings has been an interest to me for a while. > +1 for G+ hangout. I had two or three sessions with my team using G+ hangout, and the experience was positive. I was actually amazed how well the G+ hangout was doing. But I don't know how well the G+ hangout will be for such event, because the speak would be away from the laptop most of the time doing presentation. I guess it'd required a laptop with a pretty good mic that could clearly pick up sounds from 2 meters away (or maybe we need a wired/wireless mic?). Also I don't know if it is possible to share the screen for the slides. 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Once you've done this, I'd be interested >> in promoting the hangout to a wider audience. Non-geocentric perl monger >> meetings has been an interest to me for a while. > > > +1 for G+ hangout. > > I had two or three sessions with my team using G+ hangout, and the > experience was positive. I was actually amazed how well the G+ hangout was > doing. But I don't know how well the G+ hangout will be for such event, > because the speak would be away from the laptop most of the time doing > presentation. I guess it'd required a laptop with a pretty good mic that > could clearly pick up sounds from 2 meters away (or maybe we need a > wired/wireless mic?). Been there... done that... My kit bag, has the microphone and the 'long' cable I used when I still had the time to record/publish our meetings. Its available for use. And regarding the wireless approach... I tried that too... with an in-expensive wireless mic. It didn't work, because the neighborhood is just too RF noisy. ... and I wasn't going to go out and buy an expensive setup; so I just went back to the 'wired' approach. From olaf.alders at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 10:31:56 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:31:56 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> Message-ID: On 2013-06-24, at 12:09 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Antonio Sun wrote: >> >> +1 for G+ hangout. >> >> I had two or three sessions with my team using G+ hangout, and the >> experience was positive. I was actually amazed how well the G+ hangout was >> doing. But I don't know how well the G+ hangout will be for such event, >> because the speak would be away from the laptop most of the time doing >> presentation. I guess it'd required a laptop with a pretty good mic that >> could clearly pick up sounds from 2 meters away (or maybe we need a >> wired/wireless mic?). > > Been there... done that... > > My kit bag, has the microphone and the 'long' cable I used when I still > had the time to record/publish our meetings. > Its available for use. > > And regarding the wireless approach... > > I tried that too... with an in-expensive wireless mic. > It didn't work, because the neighborhood is just too RF noisy. > ... and I wasn't going to go out and buy an expensive setup; > so I just went back to the 'wired' approach. I think the wired mic would work, or I can just sit at my laptop for the presentation like Matt and I did last time. :) I also have a USB Yeti Pro mic I could bring, which would mic the speaker as well as the room, so that may not be a bad thing. It has an omnidirectional setting. Do we need small speakers so that folks on G+ can communicate via audio to the room? Should I bring an extra monitor so that we can show the hangout screen to everyone in the room without having to project it? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From toddr at cpanel.net Mon Jun 24 11:51:13 2013 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:51:13 -0500 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> Message-ID: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > I think the wired mic would work, or I can just sit at my laptop for the presentation like Matt and I did last time. :) I also have a USB Yeti Pro mic I could bring, which would mic the speaker as well as the room, so that may not be a bad thing. It has an omnidirectional setting. The Mic on a webcam works fine. If you wanna get fancy, I highly recommend the wireless USB mic xTag by Revolabs (http://goo.gl/TiQqN) . It's worked out great for recording presentations. We used it to record mst when he dropped in to give a Moo talk at cPanel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzyvPqkNKYY > Do we need small speakers so that folks on G+ can communicate via audio to the room? I find the laptop speakers work fine for this. > Should I bring an extra monitor so that we can show the hangout screen to everyone in the room without having to project it? Wouldn't that just be the projector ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Todd From olaf.alders at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 12:02:10 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:02:10 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> Message-ID: <697053AC-CB81-4079-8F4C-46258505F44C@gmail.com> On 2013-06-24, at 2:51 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > >> I think the wired mic would work, or I can just sit at my laptop for the presentation like Matt and I did last time. :) I also have a USB Yeti Pro mic I could bring, which would mic the speaker as well as the room, so that may not be a bad thing. It has an omnidirectional setting. > The Mic on a webcam works fine. If you wanna get fancy, I highly recommend the wireless USB mic xTag by Revolabs (http://goo.gl/TiQqN) . It's worked out great for recording presentations. We used it to record mst when he dropped in to give a Moo talk at cPanel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzyvPqkNKYY > >> Do we need small speakers so that folks on G+ can communicate via audio to the room? > I find the laptop speakers work fine for this. Not sure if the speakers on my MacBook Pro are quite strong enough, but it's worth trying. > >> Should I bring an extra monitor so that we can show the hangout screen to everyone in the room without having to project it? > Wouldn't that just be the projector ? Indeed. What was I thinking? I'll have to test this out in advance in order to get it right. Can't be fiddling with it 10 minutes before we start. -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From olaf.alders at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 19:38:01 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:38:01 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Join our TPM Google Hangout this Thursday! Message-ID: Hey Everyone, I've set up the Hangout. You can find the URL here: https://plus.google.com/events/cs97gme5t4n2n47qva5u3ir7l0k?authkey=CJujs4-vhOOQWA You can share it, invite others etc. It will be an interesting experiment. I *think* I set it up correctly, but please do let me know if that's not the case. I've already invited everyone from TPM who is already in my circles, but that's actually not very many. Just figured I'd start with a small group while I make sure this is all set up correctly. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From ioncache at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 19:38:57 2013 From: ioncache at gmail.com (Mark Jubenville) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:38:57 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: <05EACBEF-CA5F-409A-8B3D-4823D93C8E70@cpanel.net> References: <5DDD41C7-5BC1-443C-B19B-82AAFF5C9DE3@cpanel.net> <05EACBEF-CA5F-409A-8B3D-4823D93C8E70@cpanel.net> Message-ID: <51C902C1.6050202@gmail.com> I believe OBS http://obsproject.com/ can stream directly to YouTube these days. From what people on twitch.tv have told me it's the best streaming software these days. On 6/24/2013 2:53 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Antonio Sun wrote: > >> Also I don't know if it is possible to share the screen for the slides. > You can share screens or individual windows in Hangouts. > >> Just thinking out loud so that we may be better prepared. > If you wanna get fancy, what we really need to test is streaming to YouTube, which I believe is generally available now. > > Todd > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mark Jubenville ioncache at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From what people on twitch.tv have told me it's the best streaming software these days. > > > > On +6/24/2013 2:53 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >>> ... >> >> If you wanna get fancy, what we really need to test is streaming to YouTube, which I believe is generally available now. > Is it really necessary to stream directly to YouTube? G+ hangout already can do live streaming, and can provide a YouTube video when the session ends, right? Yes that's all I'm referring to. You'd need the youtube part if we fill up the hangout, which I believe maxes out at 8 participants. Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoniosun at lavabit.com Wed Jun 26 14:56:42 2013 From: antoniosun at lavabit.com (Antonio Sun) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:56:42 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > I'm going to be talking about YAPC::NA 2013 at this week's meeting. It's tomorrow, right? http://to.pm.org/meetings/39/ says it is 29 June 2013. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 15:06:46 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:06:46 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC Post Mortem this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <339A4B1E-38E0-40B1-A96B-32647A0E0D15@gmail.com> On 2013-06-26, at 5:56 PM, Antonio Sun wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > I'm going to be talking about YAPC::NA 2013 at this week's meeting. > > It's tomorrow, right? > > http://to.pm.org/meetings/39/ says it is 29 June 2013. It is. Corrected now. Thanks! https://github.com/toronto-perl-mongers/tpm-website/commit/710d519eb409cb1f91521f47a5539b335fa4a4d7 -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From legrady at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 16:52:34 2013 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:52:34 -0400 Subject: [tpm] It's All Alex MacKinnon's fault Message-ID: So he got me a job in February. So they shut down the Ontario office. So now we're both looking, but he's in Kitchener, so who care's about him. If you know of any jobs for Perl hotshots, ignore him, send it to me. Especially if it's financial, I have 8 years recent experience with stockbrokers. I like science and engineering subject areas too, but I don't reject other fields. Oh, and Ingy Dot Net gave a shout-out at YAPC to my tiny efforts to treat Perl + Perl5i as a language of it's own at RosettaCode - http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Perl5i. Only two bits so far, but more to come. See ya Thursday night. Tom Legrady -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbl at jbldata.com Thu Jun 27 15:50:29 2013 From: jbl at jbldata.com (J. Bobby Lopez) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:50:29 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Join our TPM Google Hangout this Thursday! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51CCC1B5.7030806@jbldata.com> Won't be there in person, but I'm going to give the Google+ route a try. So far all I see is fireworks. On 13-06-24 10:38 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I've set up the Hangout. You can find the URL here: https://plus.google.com/events/cs97gme5t4n2n47qva5u3ir7l0k?authkey=CJujs4-vhOOQWA You can share it, invite others etc. It will be an interesting experiment. I *think* I set it up correctly, but please do let me know if that's not the case. I've already invited everyone from TPM who is already in my circles, but that's actually not very many. Just figured I'd start with a small group while I make sure this is all set up correctly. > > Olaf > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf.alders at gmail.com > > http://www.wundercounter.com > http://twitter.com/wundercounter > > 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) > 416 944 8306 (direct) > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- https://twitter.com/jbobbylopez From legrady at gmail.com Thu Jun 27 21:04:26 2013 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:04:26 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Mark Message-ID: You're paying a Yorkville surcharge. --- $6 after 6 pm on Charles St. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our June TPM event last night was simul-broadcast on Google Hangout (think WebEx) and was righteous by all accounts.? Rockstars, take your bows now. ;-) Q: Do you have any qualms about being broadcast on Thursday July 25th on Google.Hangout? Just thought I'd confirm this with you beforehand.? Please replyAll. Thanks in advance. /jordan On 13-06-24 10:38 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I've set up the Hangout.? You can find the URL here: https://plus.google.com/events/cs97gme5t4n2n47qva5u3ir7l0k?authkey=CJujs4-vhOOQWA? You can share it, invite others etc.? It will be an interesting experiment.? I *think* I set it up correctly, but please do let me know if that's not the case.? I've already invited everyone from TPM who is already in my circles, but that's actually not very many.? 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URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Jun 28 15:17:22 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:17:22 -0400 Subject: [tpm] 2013: Moving forward Message-ID: <6CDA653F-3D68-46DD-9123-9FEB88E56DE7@gmail.com> For those of you who weren't able to attend last night either in person or virtually, I just wanted to mention that the Google Hangout worked out quite well and there was a unanimous decision to continue with the Hangouts moving forward. We also made some decisions about talks for the rest of 2013. I ran everything past Jordan this morning and his request was for me to post all the dates on the web site and then let people provide feedback on those, just to make sure everyone is on board with the plan. So, I'll update the website and then let you all know when that has been done. Essentially here is the lineup: July: Michelle Warren (Hangout will depend on whether Michelle is comfortable with this format) August: Damian is here. No regular talk. Richard will let us know if/when this talk is confirmed. September: (Hangout Event) lightning talks. So far we have the following speakers, but are still looking for more. * Abram * Mark * Matt * Olaf * Mike * Tom * Alex * Dave I should note that Abram will be giving his lightning talk via Google Hangout. So, keeping this in mind, you won't need to be physically present to present a talk. October: (Hangout Event) Tom Legrady speaks about perl5i Olaf speaks on how to install the new MetaCPAN VM November: (Hangout Event) Group hacking on the MetaCPAN VM we installed in October (Olaf) December: social event One thing we discussed was doing a bit more hacking together -- like we did for the web site. There was some feeling that there was not enough prep going into the website night last year. So, for the November hacking session we'll actually do some prep as part of the October meeting. Tom will present and then after that we can get our MetaCPAN VMs set up. That then gives us all a month to play with the VMs and then do some serious hacking for the November meeting. * I'm going to set up a TPM twitter account * I think we can manage our TODO items as Github issues * If anyone would like to do a book review, get in touch with me and I'll see if O'Reilly will get you a free review copy. This could be presented in person at a following meeting * Dave is going to look into setting up a web based IRC something on the TPM site * Mark is going to look into making the site more responsive. Maybe just a bootstrap update will fix some things. * After the lightning talks in September we will plan meetings for the first 6 months of 2014 before we head to the social part of the evening. So, we will have a roadmap of talks to the end of June 2014 by the end of September 2014. I think we can be flexible and there are bound to be conflicts, cancellations etc, but it's important that we are prepared in general as that will make dealing with the hiccups easier. Probably a very simple reason that we've had some low attendance is because the talks aren't always planned far enough in advance for people to plan to attend. The simple fix to this is to plan the talks well in advance. As of yesterday, this has been addressed. Getting the word out may be easier via a Meetup group. Dave has bravely volunteered to set this up for us. Talks in general don't have to focus on Perl or even be Perl-related if they're generally of interest. So, keep this in mind if you know people who may want to speak to us. There is some talk of a "Maker" night. This does not need to fall on a regular meeting night and could even be done in addition to a regular meeting in a given month. To quote Jordan: > "Impromptu meetups that do NOT occur on the Last Thursdays, are of a slightly tangential nature have received warm receptions. Please state your intent ahead of time, so we can plan for a great gig. We just want a firm headcount for planning purposes, so +/- a couple of people is cool. Ideas include: hackerspace field trip, smaller barcamps, non-Perl tech, etc" If you'd like to speak on any given night, September still has some slots, so that would be the obvious place to start. Thinking of speaking? * You don't have to be an expert on a subject in order to speak about it * You don't have to be physically present to speak * There is no minimum length. If you want to give a 5 minute talk, we can probably fit that into most of the already planned evenings I think this covers the bulk of what we discussed. Let me know if I missed anything? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From olaf.alders at gmail.com Sun Jun 30 20:58:28 2013 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:58:28 -0400 Subject: [tpm] July Talk Message-ID: <04A8C1E8-BA9A-49B0-90DC-11AE8B76D2C8@gmail.com> I'm just updating the list of upcoming talks. Can someone remind me which talk will be the one which Michelle gives in July? Thanks, Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct)