From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Feb 8 05:36:40 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:36:40 -0500 Subject: [tpm] XKD is mocking us again Message-ID: <2011b573dda9be94d616cc0fe14ad023.squirrel@mail.vex.net> http://xkcd.com/1171/ From rdice at pobox.com Fri Feb 8 05:39:26 2013 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:39:26 -0500 Subject: [tpm] XKD is mocking us again In-Reply-To: <2011b573dda9be94d616cc0fe14ad023.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <2011b573dda9be94d616cc0fe14ad023.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: It's sort of a mash-up joke between Perl & regular expressions, and regular expressions and jwz: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski Attributed - Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. - alt.religion.emacs (lost; recovered ) On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM, wrote: > > http://xkcd.com/1171/ > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cj at enersave.ca Sat Feb 9 15:39:54 2013 From: cj at enersave.ca (Chris Jones) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:39:54 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Challenging Pure Pearl Object - Multi-D Message-ID: <20130209233953.9817811F720@xx1.develooper.com> I am at a cross roads in my career. I have a brilliant idea and I know exactly how I want to do it and I want to do it in pure object oriented Pearl, the correct way the first time. First my abstract for a paper I know exactly how to write if only I completely understood pure Pearl Objects. I have been doing exactly the same thing since 1995 with, wait for it: dos C. With a limited understanding of pointers never mind objects. I knew pointers were the key to understanding memory which was somehow important. I quickly learned how important. Sometimes it took days to learn how one misplaced pointer could screw things up, eventually. And then it took days to figure out how to fix it. Then I worked for a guy who understood that pointers were not 2 dimensional, nor 3 dimensional. In fact multi-dimensional. Cool, I know I can use this someday and let it lie. We continued to use our same 2 dimensional model to represent a quasi 3 dimensional model. It was very effective, and very fast and has made my a good portion over my career. I know have a way to solve a problem that bothered my since I started making money with this model. It isn't as accurate as some people would like. Who cares, it has made me a fair amount of money and has made other people a lot more. I know what the next step is and I want to "control it". All I need is to become an expert in Pearl fast, very fast. The best way to become an expert on anything is to write a paper, present some nice pictures at a conference and you are off the races. That is what I did in 2001. I co-authored other papers but let the other person do the conference thing - ever two years or so since then. So he gets the benefit, because he completely understand and uses this model and the tools I developed. Here is my abstract: A Perl Object Oriented Program to model a multi-dimension matrix. We have developed Perl Object, Multi-D, control a 2-d matrix model to represent the same 3-d system. It is as simple as that. I know all the math, I know the complete structure of the Object. I know all the inputs and outputs to each object within the object right down to the base object and how it all interrelates to product the same output object. I also know the complete structure of the output object and how all its tiny little objects represent all the tiny little objects in the input Object. So in essence, I have a fairly good understanding of the object. And I have it all laid out and named and what each object represents in 10 files. Text files all object oriented. I need the Object Multi-D to first read these files to create itself. Does this sound like an exciting, challenging pure Pearl Object? I need a co-author. I have been to the Mongers meeting with another Pearl problem about this same Object which I already knew but didn't know what to do with it that might get someone interested. Can I come to another Mongers meet, this time with a nice slide show with pictures and matrixes and solvers and structures and all that stuff. The curve is just about to start because I started it, the same as I did in 2001. >> Christopher Jones, P.Eng. Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street Toronto, ON M5E1W7 Tel. 416-203-7465 Fax. 416-946-1005 email cj at enersave.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cj at enersave.ca Sat Feb 9 15:55:52 2013 From: cj at enersave.ca (Chris Jones) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:55:52 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Clarification- Challenging Pure Pearl Object - Multi-D Message-ID: <20130209235551.A111411F864@xx1.develooper.com> Honestly I am only looking for a co-author. Someone like me who has a fair idea of how to do Object correctly but isn't an expert on it or anything else related to anything else. I don't care how much anyone knows about anything else, just a fair idea of how pure Pearl objects can work correctly to be extremely fast and efficient. I forgot to mention there is a very fast efficient gaussian solver I need to write. I have a fast solver in C with you guessed, pointers. It's a nightmare because the solver is in unity offset matrices and C gives you 0 offset pointers to work with. But it works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am at a cross roads in my career. I have a brilliant idea and I know exactly how I want to do it and I want to do it in pure object oriented Pearl, the correct way the first time. First my abstract for a paper I know exactly how to write if only I completely understood pure Pearl Objects. I have been doing exactly the same thing since 1995 with, wait for it: dos C. With a limited understanding of pointers never mind objects. I knew pointers were the key to understanding memory which was somehow important. I quickly learned how important. Sometimes it took days to learn how one misplaced pointer could screw things up, eventually. And then it took days to figure out how to fix it. Then I worked for a guy who understood that pointers were not 2 dimensional, nor 3 dimensional. In fact multi-dimensional. Cool, I know I can use this someday and let it lie. We continued to use our same 2 dimensional model to represent a quasi 3 dimensional model. It was very effective, and very fast and has made my a good portion over my career. I know have a way to solve a problem that bothered my since I started making money with this model. It isn't as accurate as some people would like. Who cares, it has made me a fair amount of money and has made other people a lot more. I know what the next step is and I want to "control it". All I need is to become an expert in Pearl fast, very fast. The best way to become an expert on anything is to write a paper, present some nice pictures at a conference and you are off the races. That is what I did in 2001. I co-authored other papers but let the other person do the conference thing - ever two years or so since then. So he gets the benefit, because he completely understand and uses this model and the tools I developed. Here is my abstract: A Perl Object Oriented Program to model a multi-dimension matrix. We have developed Perl Object, Multi-D, control a 2-d matrix model to represent the same 3-d system. It is as simple as that. I know all the math, I know the complete structure of the Object. I know all the inputs and outputs to each object within the object right down to the base object and how it all interrelates to product the same output object. I also know the complete structure of the output object and how all its tiny little objects represent all the tiny little objects in the input Object. So in essence, I have a fairly good understanding of the object. And I have it all laid out and named and what each object represents in 10 files. Text files all object oriented. I need the Object Multi-D to first read these files to create itself. Does this sound like an exciting, challenging pure Pearl Object? I need a co-author. I have been to the Mongers meeting with another Pearl problem about this same Object which I already knew but didn't know what to do with it that might get someone interested. Can I come to another Mongers meet, this time with a nice slide show with pictures and matrixes and solvers and structures and all that stuff. The curve is just about to start because I started it, the same as I did in 2001. >> Christopher Jones, P.Eng. Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street Toronto, ON M5E1W7 Tel. 416-203-7465 Fax. 416-946-1005 email cj at enersave.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mike at stok.ca Sun Feb 10 11:37:44 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:37:44 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Fwd: [Boston.pm] Perl renaissance References: <6BA7B169-E86C-4C2A-917F-8FEF0537A175@acm.org> Message-ID: <6A0F2020-A8D0-4473-926F-1291D7B5FF96@stok.ca> Begin forwarded message: > From: Federico Lucifredi > Subject: [Boston.pm] Perl renaissance > Date: 10 February, 2013 1:24:26 PM EST > To: Boston Perl Mongers > > Hello Boston PM > > Perl renaissance, Paul fenwick's talk at Linux.conf.au is now online. Worth watching while you wait for the governor to get your street plowed this weekend: > > http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/mp4/The_Perl_Renaissance.mp4 > > > Best -F > > > > _________________________________________ > -- "'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge" - Richard Fish > (Federico L. Lucifredi) - flucifredi at acm.org - GnuPG 0x4A73884C > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-pm mailing list > Boston-pm at mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arocker at Vex.Net Mon Feb 11 06:27:13 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:27:13 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Fwd: [Boston.pm] Perl renaissance In-Reply-To: <6A0F2020-A8D0-4473-926F-1291D7B5FF96@stok.ca> References: <6BA7B169-E86C-4C2A-917F-8FEF0537A175@acm.org> <6A0F2020-A8D0-4473-926F-1291D7B5FF96@stok.ca> Message-ID: <8ec6e86d25d4bd851535dfc653b949bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Thanks for posting that, Mike. Is it my imagination, or is Conwayism contagious? From toddr at cpanel.net Mon Feb 11 07:07:10 2013 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:07:10 -0600 Subject: [tpm] Fwd: [Boston.pm] Perl renaissance In-Reply-To: <8ec6e86d25d4bd851535dfc653b949bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <6BA7B169-E86C-4C2A-917F-8FEF0537A175@acm.org> <6A0F2020-A8D0-4473-926F-1291D7B5FF96@stok.ca> <8ec6e86d25d4bd851535dfc653b949bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:27 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > Thanks for posting that, Mike. > > Is it my imagination, or is Conwayism contagious? It is, but I think I heard they have a topical cream for that already. From arocker at Vex.Net Mon Feb 11 08:08:52 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:08:52 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Chris's suggestion Message-ID: <22ac3d634d96e00953b7994a48d039bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Nobody else has responded yet, so I'd like to suggest that we take advantage of his interest in presenting for the February meeting. What do you think? From fulko.hew at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 08:10:44 2013 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:10:44 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Chris's suggestion In-Reply-To: <22ac3d634d96e00953b7994a48d039bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <22ac3d634d96e00953b7994a48d039bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > > Nobody else has responded yet, so I'd like to suggest that we take > advantage of his interest in presenting for the February meeting. > > What do you think? > Sure -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <97f3e5125f7772fb8b3e9c5b0bdfabd4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <97f3e5125f7772fb8b3e9c5b0bdfabd4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: They took out the "wait(5);" statement they put in when they originally wrote the code, which was originally placed inside of a "foreach" loop so that one day they could remove it, speed up performance by 3 orders of magnitude, and then look like a genius to their boss and justify all of the "code optimization" (i.e. reading blogs) they've been doing for the past 18 months. Or am I the only one who does this? On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, wrote: > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/11/top_coder_trumpets_competition_results/ > > A lot of computational biology is. > > It would be interesting to know what they did to achieve 3 orders of > magnitude speedup. 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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Richard Dice wrote: > They took out the "wait(5);" statement they put in when they originally > wrote the code, which was originally placed inside of a "foreach" loop so > that one day they could remove it, speed up performance by 3 orders of > magnitude, and then look like a genius to their boss and justify all of the > "code optimization" (i.e. reading blogs) they've been doing for the past 18 > months. > > Or am I the only one who does this? > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, wrote: > >> >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/11/top_coder_trumpets_competition_results/ >> >> A lot of computational biology is. >> >> It would be interesting to know what they did to achieve 3 orders of >> magnitude speedup. 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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Richard Dice wrote: > They took out the "wait(5);" statement they put in when they originally > wrote the code, which was originally placed inside of a "foreach" loop so > that one day they could remove it, speed up performance by 3 orders of > magnitude, and then look like a genius to their boss and justify all of the > "code optimization" (i.e. reading blogs) they've been doing for the past 18 > months. > > Or am I the only one who does this? > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, wrote: > >> >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/11/top_coder_trumpets_competition_results/ >> >> A lot of computational biology is. >> >> It would be interesting to know what they did to achieve 3 orders of >> magnitude speedup. (A non-trivial achievement.) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >> > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattp at cpan.org Mon Feb 11 10:14:27 2013 From: mattp at cpan.org (Matthew Phillips) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:14:27 -0500 Subject: [tpm] I wonder if this was Perl? In-Reply-To: <97f3e5125f7772fb8b3e9c5b0bdfabd4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <97f3e5125f7772fb8b3e9c5b0bdfabd4.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: Perl isn't a topcoder language choice, only java/c++/c#/vb. Competition solutions are public as well iirc, feel free to look. Matt On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, wrote: > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/11/top_coder_trumpets_competition_results/ > > A lot of computational biology is. > > It would be interesting to know what they did to achieve 3 orders of > magnitude speedup. (A non-trivial achievement.) > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cj at enersave.ca Wed Feb 13 15:36:42 2013 From: cj at enersave.ca (Chris Jones) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:36:42 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Chris's suggestion In-Reply-To: References: <22ac3d634d96e00953b7994a48d039bc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: <20130213233659.0F505121762@xx1.develooper.com> I am ready to go. What is the date? At 11:10 AM 11/02/2013, Fulko Hew wrote: >On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:08 AM, ><arocker at vex.net> wrote: > >Nobody else has responded yet, so I'd like to suggest that we take >advantage of his interest in presenting for the February meeting. > >What do you think? > > >Sure > > >_______________________________________________ >toronto-pm mailing list >toronto-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >> Christopher Jones, P.Eng. Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street Toronto, ON M5E1W7 Tel. 416-203-7465 Fax. 416-946-1005 email cj at enersave.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mattp at cpan.org Fri Feb 15 08:36:00 2013 From: mattp at cpan.org (Matthew Phillips) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:36:00 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Test module output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You need to redirect stderr. prove -rl t &> foo Matt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM, wrote: > > Does anyone know where "Test::" output is written? > > I tried to redirect it to a file, so I could compare successive tests, but > don't seem able to capture it. > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just don't uncompress them in the same place (like I just did) because they will overwrite your .t files :-) --S On 2013-02-15, at 12:21 PM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: >> You need to redirect stderr. >> >> prove -rl t &> foo >> > > Perfect. Brain-fade is obviously in operation. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm From mattp at cpan.org Fri Feb 15 10:07:47 2013 From: mattp at cpan.org (Matthew Phillips) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:07:47 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Test module output In-Reply-To: References: <04790ab0838d8262ff0951395da4cb66.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: Looking at prove opts, there is also -m, --merge Merge test scripts' STDERR with their STDOUT. Cheers, Matt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Stuart Watt wrote: > This is an interesting problem. I've seen and used progressive tests in > Test::Perl::Critic. It would be a big win if this existed as a more general > purpose module. > > Another option that may be useful. You can also do: > > prove -v --archive myarchive.tgz ? > > which builds a tgz of the individual TAP outputs. Just don't uncompress > them in the same place (like I just did) because they will overwrite your > .t files :-) > > --S > > On 2013-02-15, at 12:21 PM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > >> You need to redirect stderr. > >> > >> prove -rl t &> foo > >> > > > > Perfect. Brain-fade is obviously in operation. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > toronto-pm mailing list > > toronto-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike On 2013-02-18, at 9:04 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > The 28th is perfect for me. > > At 07:46 PM 13/02/2013, Fulko Hew wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >> I am ready to go. What is the date? >> >> >> T'would be Feb 28th. >> >> At 11:10 AM 11/02/2013, Fulko Hew wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >> Nobody else has responded yet, so I'd like to suggest that we take >> advantage of his interest in presenting for the February meeting. >> What do you think? > >> > Christopher Jones, P.Eng. > Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street > Toronto, ON M5E1W7 > Tel. 416-203-7465 > Fax. 416-946-1005 > email cj at enersave.ca > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have some clients that work in Perl that are consistently growing and looking for new people. Do you think that anyone that gets this could let others know that they can feel free to get in touch at their convenience? Thank you and once again, my apologies for using these means to reach out. * * *Graeme Cowlen* *Hireglyphics Recruiting Corporation* 433-366 ADELAIDE ST E, TORONTO, M5A 3X9 *Mobile - 647 - 463 - 6139* *http://ca.linkedin.com/in/graemecowlen* * * *www.hireglyphics.com* * * On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, wrote: > Send toronto-pm mailing list submissions to > toronto-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > toronto-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > toronto-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of toronto-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Tradmark Nonsense (arocker at Vex.Net) > 2. s/Tradmark/Trademark (arocker at Vex.Net) > 3. Jim Harris (Jim Harris) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:48:46 -0500 > From: arocker at Vex.Net > To: "Toronto PerlMongers" > Subject: [tpm] Tradmark Nonsense > Message-ID: <6ce249b992819311933b82b677a23ecf.squirrel at mail.vex.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > > I hope the Perl community never gets involved in anything as monumentally > silly as this: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/19/python_versus_veber_trademark/ > > (E.g.suing Mr. Perl, > > http://blogs.forward.com/the-jew-and-the-carrot/166087/holocaust-survivor-reinvents-himself-at-/ > the Kosher grocer.) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:01:08 -0500 > From: arocker at Vex.Net > To: "Toronto PerlMongers" > Subject: [tpm] s/Tradmark/Trademark > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 04:43:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Jim Harris > To: lyris confirm 6602675C , > magog , toronto pm , k > horwood > , adminHUC , jonathan > bennett > , thecastros , > raymond castro , dzeller > > Subject: [tpm] Jim Harris > Message-ID: > <1361364215.23469.YahooMailNeo at web121606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > http://www.moellermultimedia.com/ymjgjauz/ayxcn81ienmtc.kxbgszjn?asdn5somhja48ipbed8iri5 > > > > > > > Jim Harris > > > > > 2/20/2013 1:43:33 PM > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/toronto-pm/attachments/20130220/7c71e8dd/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > ------------------------------ > > End of toronto-pm Digest, Vol 71, Issue 10 > ****************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I figure I had to do the needful, and write a blog post about the arrival of our new bundle of joy, so here it is : http://www.jbldata.com/please-join-us-in-welcoming-the-newest-member-of-our-family/ From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Feb 23 09:30:28 2013 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:30:28 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Hello Perlers, The Phoebe has arrived In-Reply-To: <5128F894.6040804@jbldata.com> References: <5128F894.6040804@jbldata.com> Message-ID: <5128FCB4.3060907@stemsystems.com> On 02/23/2013 12:12 PM, J. Bobby Lopez wrote: > My daughter, Phoebe Isabelle Lopez was born on Jan 28th, 2013! > > I figure I had to do the needful, and write a blog post about the > arrival of our new bundle of joy, so here it is : > http://www.jbldata.com/please-join-us-in-welcoming-the-newest-member-of-our-family/ > you didn't name her 'pearl'? :) perl was actually named pearl first after larry's mother-in-law iirc. but another lang had that name already so he dropped the a. congrats! get her coding soon! uri From faisal at akber.net Sat Feb 23 17:47:23 2013 From: faisal at akber.net (Syed Faisal Akber) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:47:23 Subject: [tpm] Hello Perlers, The Phoebe has arrived In-Reply-To: <5128F894.6040804@jbldata.com> Message-ID: <20130223174725.D009C2E8A84@xx1.develooper.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbl at jbldata.com Sun Feb 24 09:16:40 2013 From: jbl at jbldata.com (J. Bobby Lopez) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:16:40 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Hello Perlers, The Phoebe has arrived In-Reply-To: <20130224123807.079ea40c@telaviv1.shlomifish.org> References: <5128F894.6040804@jbldata.com> <20130224123807.079ea40c@telaviv1.shlomifish.org> Message-ID: <512A4AF8.2080903@jbldata.com> I had thoughts on naming her something 'perl' related, but had to compromise with my wife ;) So starting the name with P had to suffice ;) The name 'Phoebe' has a lot of meaning to us. For one, as you said Shlomi, it's the name of one of our favourite character on Friends. It's also the name of the region where my mother was born, Miss Phoebe, Port Mourant, Guyana. We've thought about several names, most of them were not very common, such as Dilana, Mistique, etc. But Phoebe seemed to be most well rounded. We were considering the number of syllables in the name, trying to make it easy to say and flow. Two syllables like 'Bobby' seemed to become a priority. We also wanted the full name to flow well, like Cellar Door: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellar_Door, so we made sure that the vowels in the first, middle, and last names complimented each other, so that you could essentially say the full name without skipping a beat. For example I would sometimes pronounce it "PhoebIsabelLopez" (Febeezabellopez). This shortly ended up becoming "Fizzy" as a nickname :) We also wanted the name to be easy to play with in written form, to do things like using the 'P' in Lopez to write Phoebe going downward (like in a crossword puzzle). It's actually very difficult to pick a name that will seem to work well in the long run. You can easily get into a rut trying to think of all the reasons why a name _will not_ work. Luckily we had settled on the decision before she was born :) Isabelle could have just as easily been 'Isabella' as my 4yr old nice likes to pronounce it. But we chose that one because it was the name of another favourite character, and it also allowed us to be a bit playful with the name. For example 'Phoebe is a Belle" as in http://www.thefreedictionary.com/belle Anyway, thanks for asking, it's actually nice to be able to share the reasoning behind the name! On 13-02-24 05:38 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Bobby, > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:12:52 -0500 > "J. Bobby Lopez" wrote: > >> My daughter, Phoebe Isabelle Lopez was born on Jan 28th, 2013! >> >> I figure I had to do the needful, and write a blog post about the >> arrival of our new bundle of joy, so here it is : >> http://www.jbldata.com/please-join-us-in-welcoming-the-newest-member-of-our-family/ >> > Mazal Tov! :-) > > Just out of curiosity - why was she called "Phoebe"? As opposed to Uri, I think > it's a lovely name, and naturally reminds me of > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_Buffay from the T.V. show Friends. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > From arocker at Vex.Net Sun Feb 24 09:48:05 2013 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:48:05 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Hello Perlers, The Phoebe has arrived In-Reply-To: <512A4AF8.2080903@jbldata.com> References: <5128F894.6040804@jbldata.com> <20130224123807.079ea40c@telaviv1.shlomifish.org> <512A4AF8.2080903@jbldata.com> Message-ID: > > It's actually very difficult to pick a name that will seem to work well > in the long run. Picking names is a tricky business. The wrong choice of name, (or even order of initials), can condemn a child to a lifetime of derision from peers, drill sergeants, and miscellaneous spectators. (Ask me about my surname....) There's nominative determinism to consider; http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf108/sf108p14.htm If the Offens name their daughter Sue, she's bound for a life in law. It's also hard to know when you have it right; my parents picked my 4-letter first name because they thought it would be hard to misspell. Wrong! From shlomif at shlomifish.org Sun Feb 24 12:31:48 2013 From: shlomif at shlomifish.org (Shlomi Fish) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:31:48 +0200 Subject: [tpm] Hello Perlers, The Phoebe has arrived In-Reply-To: <512A4AF8.2080903@jbldata.com> References: <5128F894.6040804@jbldata.com> <20130224123807.079ea40c@telaviv1.shlomifish.org> <512A4AF8.2080903@jbldata.com> Message-ID: <20130224223148.36009ef4@telaviv1.shlomifish.org> Hi Bobby, On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:16:40 -0500 "J. Bobby Lopez" wrote: > I had thoughts on naming her something 'perl' related, but had to > compromise with my wife ;) So starting the name with P had to suffice ;) > > The name 'Phoebe' has a lot of meaning to us. For one, as you said > Shlomi, it's the name of one of our favourite character on Friends. > I'm glad you like Friends too and that you also like the character of Phoebe. Thanks for the other roundup of etymology. Names of people are fascinating things, and my name (as well as my IRC derived nickname "rindolf" or "Rin" for short) also have a complex history, etymology and philology, which are reflected in fragments in my F.A.Q.: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/ As a boy (child, teenager, etc.) I hated my name and was constantly teased for it, but as an adult, I was able to take it to my advantage. I hope that the young Miss Phoebe Lopez will be an awesome person during all ages, whatever her abilities, strengths, weaknesses and trade-offs will be. Regards, Shlomi Fish > It's also the name of the region where my mother was born, Miss Phoebe, > Port Mourant, Guyana. > > We've thought about several names, most of them were not very common, > such as Dilana, Mistique, etc. But Phoebe seemed to be most well rounded. > > We were considering the number of syllables in the name, trying to make > it easy to say and flow. Two syllables like 'Bobby' seemed to become a > priority. > > We also wanted the full name to flow well, like Cellar Door: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellar_Door, so we made sure that the > vowels in the first, middle, and last names complimented each other, so > that you could essentially say the full name without skipping a beat. > For example I would sometimes pronounce it "PhoebIsabelLopez" > (Febeezabellopez). This shortly ended up becoming "Fizzy" as a nickname :) > > We also wanted the name to be easy to play with in written form, to do > things like using the 'P' in Lopez to write Phoebe going downward (like > in a crossword puzzle). > > It's actually very difficult to pick a name that will seem to work well > in the long run. You can easily get into a rut trying to think of all > the reasons why a name _will not_ work. Luckily we had settled on the > decision before she was born :) > > Isabelle could have just as easily been 'Isabella' as my 4yr old nice > likes to pronounce it. But we chose that one because it was the name > of another favourite character, and it also allowed us to be a bit > playful with the name. For example 'Phoebe is a Belle" as in > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/belle > > Anyway, thanks for asking, it's actually nice to be able to share the > reasoning behind the name! > > > > On 13-02-24 05:38 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi Bobby, > > > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:12:52 -0500 > > "J. Bobby Lopez" wrote: > > > >> My daughter, Phoebe Isabelle Lopez was born on Jan 28th, 2013! > >> > >> I figure I had to do the needful, and write a blog post about the > >> arrival of our new bundle of joy, so here it is : > >> http://www.jbldata.com/please-join-us-in-welcoming-the-newest-member-of-our-family/ > >> > > Mazal Tov! :-) > > > > Just out of curiosity - why was she called "Phoebe"? As opposed to Uri, I > > think it's a lovely name, and naturally reminds me of > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_Buffay from the T.V. show Friends. > > > > Regards, > > > > Shlomi Fish > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ UNIX Fortune Cookies - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/ Larry Wall gets the colon. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . From mike at stok.ca Tue Feb 26 10:05:36 2013 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:05:36 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Meeting: Thu 28 Feb 2013 Message-ID: This month's meeting is a challenge to write some code. Meetings are held at 2 Bloor St. West on the last Thursday of each month. http://to.pm.org/meetings/35/ Topic Challenging Pure Perl Object - Multi-D Venue Global Knowledge (Classroom B) Time 18:45 Challenging Pure Perl Object - Multi-D Christopher Jones A Perl Object Oriented Program to model a multi-dimension matrix. We have developed Perl Object, Multi-D, control a 2-d matrix model to represent the same 3-d system. It is as simple as that. I know all the math, I know the complete structure of the Object. I know all the inputs and outputs to each object within the object right down to the base object and how it all interrelates to product the same output object. I also know the complete structure of the output object and how all its tiny little objects represent all the tiny little objects in the input Object. So in essence, I have a fairly good understanding of the object. And I have it all laid out and named and what each object represents in 10 files. Text files all object oriented. I need the Object Multi-D to first read these files to create itself. -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdice at pobox.com Tue Feb 26 11:32:40 2013 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:32:40 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Damian Conway in Toronto this summer? Perhaps... Message-ID: Hi everybody, I've been chatting with Damian Conway lately and we have mutual hopes that he can come here for a few days during the summer to do his regular shtick: present a few public talks, provide a few paid classes. We won't know for sure if this can be done until he sorts out his North American summer travel schedule, which is driven by bigger customers. 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I usually turn up in the lobby around 6:30 PM. > > There is a projector in the room, and internet connectivity. > > The more you have prepared ahead of time the better, even if some of it doesn't get used. That allows you to have a contingency for when people run out of steam. > > Mike > > On 2013-02-27, at 8:10 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > >> I am still planning on coming tomorrow evening. I am a bit fuzzy on what time and where. Also, how much should I try to prepare ahead of time? I have my idea and a bunch of files that are to be used to create the Perl class structure. I think it is a great project. It seems fairly daunting at the moment. It would be great if I could present something via a projector? >> >> >> >> >> At 11:17 AM 18/02/2013, Mike Stok wrote: >>> Who can update the web site to say that we have something set for this month? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 2013-02-18, at 9:04 AM, Chris Jones wrote: >>> >>>> The 28th is perfect for me. >>>> >>>> At 07:46 PM 13/02/2013, Fulko Hew wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >>>>> I am ready to go. What is the date? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> T'would be Feb 28th. >>>>> >>>>> At 11:10 AM 11/02/2013, Fulko Hew wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>>>> Nobody else has responded yet, so I'd like to suggest that we take >>>>> advantage of his interest in presenting for the February meeting. >>>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> >> >>>> Christopher Jones, P.Eng. >>>> Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street >>>> Toronto, ON M5E1W7 >>>> Tel. 416-203-7465 >>>> Fax. 416-946-1005 >>>> email cj at enersave.ca >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> toronto-pm mailing list >>>> toronto-pm at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Mike Stok >>> http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ >>> >>> The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> toronto-pm mailing list >>> toronto-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >> >> >> >> Christopher Jones, P.Eng. >> Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street >> Toronto, ON M5E1W7 >> Tel. 416-203-7465 >> Fax. 416-946-1005 >> email cj at enersave.ca >> > > -- > > Mike Stok > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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