From legrady at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 13:51:35 2012 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 16:51:35 -0400 Subject: [tpm] tablet programming Message-ID: A friend is working on an art installation involving tablets. There will be two large monitors showing video, and a number of tablets on which visitors can view individual pieces. The rough idea is that the program looks in the video directory and sees there are N videos available to present, and it displays a grid of options. Maybe there's a jpeg to go with each video, to populate the grid, or maybe just a few words of text. During the show, the count is static, but maybe the next time the piece is shown, some video clips are added or removed. Visitors can select a piece to view from the grid, or, after perhaps 30 seconds, the program selects one at random to play. At the end of the video, it returns to the grid. Has anyone been working with tablets and has the know-how to implement such a system? 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From olaf.alders at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 06:31:02 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:31:02 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Postgres and Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ED23F41-41FA-451B-AC39-A6FF90DDF610@gmail.com> On 2012-07-11, at 9:25 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > Last night I spoke to Chris Browne, the prospective speaker on Postgres. > > He will be happy to come, but would like us to assemble our "Top 10 > Questions" on the topic in advance, so he can tailor the talk. What do > people want to know? > > I'll toss in two, to get the discussion going; > > 1. Where does Postgres fit in the current computing ecosystem? > 2. Which are the best books on it for a beginner? I'd personally be interested in what I need to know when switching from MySQL to Postgres. What are the main differences? What are the pitfalls? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From fulko.hew at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 06:47:22 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:47:22 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Postgres and Perl In-Reply-To: <2ED23F41-41FA-451B-AC39-A6FF90DDF610@gmail.com> References: <2ED23F41-41FA-451B-AC39-A6FF90DDF610@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2012-07-11, at 9:25 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > > > > Last night I spoke to Chris Browne, the prospective speaker on Postgres. > > > > He will be happy to come, but would like us to assemble our "Top 10 > > Questions" on the topic in advance, so he can tailor the talk. What do > > people want to know? > > > > I'll toss in two, to get the discussion going; > > > > 1. Where does Postgres fit in the current computing ecosystem? > > 2. Which are the best books on it for a beginner? > > I'd personally be interested in what I need to know when switching from > MySQL to Postgres. What are the main differences? What are the pitfalls? > I second that question! That's one of my two major issues... that, and time. b) what about portability/availability/installation on other platforms/OSs? c) on MySql a login is a login and a database is a database... on Oracle, a login _is_ a database... how does Postgres associate things? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janes.rob at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 05:24:44 2012 From: janes.rob at gmail.com (Rob Janes) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:24:44 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Postgres and Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: how about ... 3. show me a proc written in perl. explain. might not be for beginners. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:25 AM, wrote: > > Last night I spoke to Chris Browne, the prospective speaker on Postgres. > > He will be happy to come, but would like us to assemble our "Top 10 > Questions" on the topic in advance, so he can tailor the talk. What do > people want to know? > > I'll toss in two, to get the discussion going; > > 1. Where does Postgres fit in the current computing ecosystem? > 2. Which are the best books on it for a beginner? > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fulko.hew at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 08:41:15 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:41:15 -0400 Subject: [tpm] will a pre-built (for Solaris 10) perl distribution work on Solaris 8? Message-ID: As the subject line asks... Does anyone know if a Perl distribution built for Solaris 10 will install and work on Solaris 8? I've got people who have some systems still running on Solaris 8, but its Perl is really really old (5.00503) and they need something 'a little newer' to be able to run my app. They'd prefer to install a binary distribution; especially since their Solaris 8 machine might not have all of the development tools required to build a newer Perl. Comments anyone ? Fulko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at morungos.com Mon Jul 16 09:06:44 2012 From: stuart at morungos.com (Stuart Watt) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:06:44 -0400 Subject: [tpm] will a pre-built (for Solaris 10) perl distribution work on Solaris 8? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9D098E25-8AE1-44E1-A3A3-492F7DE93263@morungos.com> I'm thinking, "Good luck!" First off, surely Solaris 8 is dead by now? It can't still actually be supported? That's going to make things harder. I'd say it's extremely unlikely that a Solaris 10 binary will run on Solaris 8 - the likely blocker will be libc, which is almost always only forwards compatible. You'd be better building on a Solaris 8 (or earlier) box and deploying, or attempting to cross-compile. The first is going to be much the easiest option. Cross-compiling is, allegedly, possible. See: http://perlcross.berlios.de/ for the Perl side, and http://www.site.uottawa.ca/~jparr090/crosscompile.shtml for info on how to get Linux to build versions of gcc for cross-compiling. Putting them together sounds possible, but won't be for the faint-hearted. Finally, it just occurred to me that there might be an ActivePerl Solaris build old enough - I think there is (see: http://docs.activestate.com/activeperl/5.10/install.html, which indicates a 5.10.x for Sparc, and should be good for 2.6+) but you need to pay to get it. All the best Stuart On 2012-07-16, at 11:41 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > As the subject line asks... > > Does anyone know if a Perl distribution built for Solaris 10 > will install and work on Solaris 8? > > I've got people who have some systems still running on Solaris 8, > but its Perl is really really old (5.00503) and they need something > 'a little newer' to be able to run my app. > > They'd prefer to install a binary distribution; > especially since their Solaris 8 machine might not have all > of the development tools required to build a newer Perl. > > Comments anyone ? > > Fulko > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The binary is designed to allow installation in any directory, it uses just one directory, does not scatter files in other directory. It does not require root permission for installation. Here are the steps: Download one of the installation tarballs from indigostar.com. Untar in your home directory cd into the perl2exe directory run ./setup The Perl binary will be in ~/perl2exe/perl5/bin Add this directory to your PATH environment variable I am assuming that the hardware is SPARC. If the hardware is Intel and you can get a copy of Solaris 8 installation disks then you have the option to install Solaris in a virtual machine for testing and development. Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com From: Fulko Hew Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:41 AM To: TPM Subject: [tpm] will a pre-built (for Solaris 10) perl distribution work onSolaris 8? As the subject line asks... Does anyone know if a Perl distribution built for Solaris 10 will install and work on Solaris 8? I've got people who have some systems still running on Solaris 8, but its Perl is really really old (5.00503) and they need something 'a little newer' to be able to run my app. They'd prefer to install a binary distribution; especially since their Solaris 8 machine might not have all of the development tools required to build a newer Perl. Comments anyone ? Fulko -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arocker at Vex.Net Mon Jul 16 09:20:34 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:20:34 -0400 Subject: [tpm] will a pre-built (for Solaris 10) perl distribution work on Solaris 8? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Does anyone know if a Perl distribution built for Solaris 10 > will install and work on Solaris 8? > I can't answer the question myself, but perlbrew https://nxadm.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/get-the-latest-perl-release-with-perlbrew/ might make the research a little easier. From fulko.hew at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 10:39:10 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:39:10 -0400 Subject: [tpm] will a pre-built (for Solaris 10) perl distribution work on Solaris 8? In-Reply-To: <9D098E25-8AE1-44E1-A3A3-492F7DE93263@morungos.com> References: <9D098E25-8AE1-44E1-A3A3-492F7DE93263@morungos.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Stuart Watt wrote: > I'm thinking, "Good luck!" > Funny... thats exactly what I said to the guy who said we needed to support some Solaris 8 boxes! First off, surely Solaris 8 is dead by now? It can't still actually be > supported? > Solaris 8 might be dead and not actively supported, but sadly that doesn't stop people from still having them in production. ... snip ... > Finally, it just occurred to me that there might be an ActivePerl Solaris > build old enough - I think there is (see: > http://docs.activestate.com/activeperl/5.10/install.html, which indicates > a 5.10.x for Sparc, and should be good for 2.6+) but you need to pay to get > it. > 'pay for it!' That's when people pipe up and say 'See... Perl is old and unsupportable, you should have used Java'. And the fact that the box would have an un-usable/old version of Java would be lost on them too! Indy's suggestion is the best/easiest to start with. BTW Indy: I haven't forgotten... I'm still trying to get approval to buy your software. Finally, perlbrew may be an answer too, but first I have to get access to the box so that I can work on it. 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The reality is: compiling the most recent Perl for Solaris 8 should not be a problem. It will work, and it will be stable. Putting a new binary on an old system - unless it was compiled for that old system - is usually inviting trouble in for a nice cup of tea. It doesn't matter a damn whether it's Java, Perl, or even PHP. And Java is the precisely the same. If you compiled a Java app today, no way would it run on a 2000-era Java runtime, unless you fiddled the defaults to make it extra backwards compatible. I'm already getting hassle for deploying with OpenJDK 6 when it still is supported, because it is supposed to be dropped within the next 18 months or so by Debian. All the best Stuart From yam at nerd.cx Tue Jul 17 11:25:33 2012 From: yam at nerd.cx (William Witteman) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:25:33 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Old Perl Books Message-ID: <20120717182532.GC18638@yam.witteman.ca> I am moving, and I have a few old Perl books to pass on to someone. Perl 5 Pocket Reference, 3rd Ed Programming Perl 3rd Ed Learning Perl 2nd Ed Perl and XML Perl Cookbook Also, a copy of Kernigan and Pike's "The UNIX Programming Environment" and Hacking the XBox Anyone interested? -- yours, William From fulko.hew at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 11:30:42 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:30:42 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Old Perl Books In-Reply-To: <20120717182532.GC18638@yam.witteman.ca> References: <20120717182532.GC18638@yam.witteman.ca> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, William Witteman wrote: > I am moving, and I have a few old Perl books to pass on to someone. > > Perl 5 Pocket Reference, 3rd Ed > Programming Perl 3rd Ed > Learning Perl 2nd Ed > Perl and XML > Perl Cookbook > > Also, a copy of Kernigan and Pike's "The UNIX Programming Environment" > and Hacking the XBox > > Anyone interested? > I'd be intersted in 'Perl and XML' and "The UNIX Programming Environment" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you William > yours, > > William > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:30:42 -0400 > From: Fulko Hew > To: William Witteman > Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org > Subject: Re: [tpm] Old Perl Books > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, William Witteman wrote: > >> I am moving, and I have a few old Perl books to pass on to someone. >> >> Perl 5 Pocket Reference, 3rd Ed >> Programming Perl 3rd Ed >> Learning Perl 2nd Ed >> Perl and XML >> Perl Cookbook >> >> Also, a copy of Kernigan and Pike's "The UNIX Programming Environment" >> and Hacking the XBox >> >> Anyone interested? >> > > I'd be intersted in 'Perl and XML' and "The UNIX Programming Environment" > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > ------------------------------ > > End of toronto-pm Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > ***************************************** From fulko.hew at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 06:06:14 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:06:14 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Old Perl Books In-Reply-To: <20120717200751.GA19386@yam.witteman.ca> References: <20120717182532.GC18638@yam.witteman.ca> <20120717200751.GA19386@yam.witteman.ca> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:07 PM, William Witteman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 02:30:42PM -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > >I'd be intersted in 'Perl and XML' and "The UNIX Programming Environment" > > Yay! I'm in the east end of the city, Gerrard and Greenwood area - do > you think you could come by some time and pick them up? > Boo! I'm all the way the other way, in Burlington. Is there any way you (or someone else) could get them to next week's TPM meeting? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jztam at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 06:41:23 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Old Perl Books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1342618883.34163.YahooMailClassic@web125701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am minutes away,? on Highfield just above Gerrard? ;-)??? Let's sort this out and I'll bring the whole gaggle to the next meeting. /jordan --- On Wed, 7/18/12, Fulko Hew wrote: From: Fulko Hew Subject: Re: [tpm] Old Perl Books To: "William Witteman" Cc: "Toronto PerlMongers" Received: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 9:06 AM On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:07 PM, William Witteman wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 02:30:42PM -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: >I'd be intersted in? 'Perl and XML' and "The UNIX Programming Environment" Yay! ?I'm in the east end of the city, Gerrard and Greenwood area - do you think you could come by some time and pick them up? Boo!? I'm all the way the other way, in Burlington. Is there any way you (or someone else) could get them to next week's TPM meeting? ? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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'Perl and XML' and "The UNIX Programming Environment" Yay! ?I'm in the east end of the city, Gerrard and Greenwood area - do you think you could come by some time and pick them up? Boo!? I'm all the way the other way, in Burlington. Is there any way you (or someone else) could get them to next week's TPM meeting? ? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jztam at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 10:04:53 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Call for speakers/topics for July 26th. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1342631093.75152.YahooMailClassic@web125701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dear mongeren, ? IIRC,? we had Alex.B reviewing his experience at YAPC.? 1.? Are there any mongers that will attend next Thursday willing to debrief us about their experiences at YAPC? 2.? Postgres.? Could someone reach out to Chris.Browne to ask if he's available for next Thursday..? that thread needs a little nudge towards revivication? ;-) 3. Any other topics at the tip of your tongues for next week?? Please do not be shy.? Yeah sure, the meek shall inherit the earth, but they get waaay less dates. jk. /jordan --- On Wed, 7/11/12, Fulko Hew wrote: From: Fulko Hew Subject: Re: [tpm] Postgres and Perl To: "Toronto PerlMongers" Received: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 9:47 AM On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: On 2012-07-11, at 9:25 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > Last night I spoke to Chris Browne, the prospective speaker on Postgres. > > He will be happy to come, but would like us to assemble our "Top 10 > Questions" on the topic in advance, so he can tailor the talk. What do > people want to know? > > I'll toss in two, to get the discussion going; > > 1. Where does Postgres fit in the current computing ecosystem? > 2. Which are the best books on it for a beginner? I'd personally be interested in what I need to know when switching from MySQL to Postgres. ?What are the main differences? ?What are the pitfalls? I second that question! That's one of my two major issues... that, and time. b) what about portability/availability/installation on other platforms/OSs? c) on MySql a login is a login and a database is a database... ?? on Oracle, a login _is_ a database... ?? how does Postgres associate things? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could someone reach out to Chris.Browne to ask if he's > available for next Thursday.. that thread needs a little nudge towards > revivication ;-) > 3. Any other topics at the tip of your tongues for next week? Please do > not be shy. Yeah sure, the meek shall inherit the earth, but they get > waaay less dates. jk. > /jordan > > --- On *Wed, 7/11/12, Fulko Hew * wrote: > > > From: Fulko Hew > Subject: Re: [tpm] Postgres and Perl > To: "Toronto PerlMongers" > Received: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 9:47 AM > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Olaf Alders > > wrote: > > > On 2012-07-11, at 9:25 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > > > > Last night I spoke to Chris Browne, the prospective speaker on Postgres. > > > > He will be happy to come, but would like us to assemble our "Top 10 > > Questions" on the topic in advance, so he can tailor the talk. What do > > people want to know? > > > > I'll toss in two, to get the discussion going; > > > > 1. Where does Postgres fit in the current computing ecosystem? > > 2. Which are the best books on it for a beginner? > > I'd personally be interested in what I need to know when switching from > MySQL to Postgres. What are the main differences? What are the pitfalls? > > > I second that question! > > That's one of my two major issues... that, and time. > > b) what about portability/availability/installation on other platforms/OSs? > > c) on MySql a login is a login and a database is a database... > on Oracle, a login _is_ a database... > how does Postgres associate things? > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -- Alex Beamish Toronto, Ontario aka talexb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Books from William.W I will bring dead trees. Please selforganize and pick out only what you did dibbsed. The rest are up for grabs by the attendees, protocolling the public libarry rules... you get it for a month... bring it back the next month or two months hence, so other mongerers can have a read. Typing of which, did we want to bring all our previously memorized books to this meeting for sharesies? Just asking. For the adventurous and bohemian amongst us - please just bring a bag-o-books to share out amongst the collective. I'm dibbsing 7LI7W if someone is done with theirs. /jordan From stuart at morungos.com Fri Jul 27 07:49:40 2012 From: stuart at morungos.com (Stuart Watt) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:49:40 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Perl and inclusiveness Message-ID: Based on yesterday's discussion, here is a useful perspective, Skud's OSCON keynote from 2009 - http://infotrope.net/2009/07/25/standing-out-in-the-crowd-my-oscon-keynote/ I especially like the quote: "So, what can we learn from this? Well, one thing I?ve learnt is that if anyone says, ?Women just aren?t interested in technology? or ?Women aren?t interested in open source,? it?s just not true. Women are interested, willing, able, and competent. They?re just not contributing to existing, dare I say ?mainstream?, open source projects." The comments are important too. So maybe we do have a problem. Maybe we do need to find ways to change our culture. I've seen truly appalling behaviour on some mailing lists (not all) -- not explicit sexism in many cases, but certainly a somewhat brutish attitude that makes interaction unpleasant. It feels like territorial behaviour in animals, actually. It makes *me* feel uncomfortable, so it's not exactly welcoming. I've also been to blame for not calling people out for acting like that. Anyway, there are some good suggestions and things to think about. All the best Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jztam at yahoo.com Fri Jul 27 13:00:37 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] YAPC::PIR acknowledgments; Upcoming talks. Message-ID: <1343419237.9928.YahooMailClassic@web120906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hey mongeren, Just a quick Thank You to our very own Alex.B, Matt.P, and Olaf.A for giving the rest of us, a fun and candid account(s) of their time spent in Wisconsin last month. I'll post Upcoming talks topics later tonight or Sunday... left that paper at home. /jordan