[Thousand-oaks-pm] In anticipation of Perl 6 Hackathon
Todd Presta
toddpresta at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jul 13 15:37:30 PDT 2009
I think the database interface and XML would be the trickiest. I would have to perform more research, but it may be possible to interface to a SQLite dynamic library via Native Call Interface. There is information for Parrot for NCI, but I do not know of the connection between Perl 6 and NCI at this point. Maybe an NCI layer in Parrot has to be part of the Perl 6 build?
Anyway, here's a link for the Parrot NCI:
http://docs.parrot.org/parrot/latest/html/docs/pdds/draft/pdd16_native_call.pod.html
If okay with everyone, I would like to investigate the database interface layer, primarily searching for existing projects, and/or determining the feasibility of rolling an adapter ourselves.
I assume this project will be targeting a *nix deployment?
-- Todd Presta
-- http://www.asciiville.com
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Aran Deltac <bluefeet at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Aran Deltac <bluefeet at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] In anticipation of Perl 6 Hackathon
To: "Jonathan Brown" <jbrown at reachlocal.com>
Cc: "shawn faison" <faison09 at gmail.com>, "Todd Presta" <toddpresta at sbcglobal.net>, thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:08 AM
I like that, sounds great.
I think we'll find that there are,
say, 10 different pieces to this, then when we start digging in we'll
find that... uh, there is no DBI in perl 6 - crap! Gotta figure out a
way to access some sort of DB (maybe there is some sort of BDB support
in perl 6...), or we'd end up being totally side-tracked by writing an
LWP-like library for perl6 so that we could then pull feeds from these
services. Oh, and does perl 6 have any XML support yet? Has anyone
written an XML module for perl 6?
My bet is that just getting a barely functional aggregator and web
site going will take a LOT more effort in perl 6 since there isn't a
CPAN for perl 6, yet.
That aside, I think the this is a great
idea Shawn/Jon. We should do it. We can already identify a few pieces
that could be developed independently. First, I'd like to know what
tools we have available to us in perl 6, and know how they work:
- XML parsing.
- Database access.
- LWP or similar tools.
- mod_perl6
The
only one we have for sure is the last one, mod_perl6, but someone needs
to understand how it works. The rest needs to be looked in to.
We'll each grab one of these research items, and then report to the
rest of us as to the current standing of the feature, or if they even
exist yet? Then we can take the next steps and actually develop
something.
Does this sound like a good approach to you guys?
I'm wingin it. If you guys would rather just jump right in and do this more organically that's fine with me as well.
Aran
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Brown <jbrown at reachlocal.com> wrote:
Guys,
One idea I had, which is kind of a merger of Shawn's 3
and 4, to some extent, is: Build a website and accompanying backend that will
parse feeds of / use APIs of twitter/facebook/Daylife/wherever and agregate
content about a specific topic. I like this one because 1) it shows Perl 6
can be used to build the kind of web apps that are popular today (no cgi!), 2)
it's not just the web app, because we'll need backend components and db layer to
store all the parsed content, 3) since we store the content instead of jsut
access live APIs, we can build a "universal" search on top that merges the
results of different sources together, and 4) it should be realtively well
suited to development by mutliple people, as someone can always just pick a new
data source and write an importer for it, or build some other feature that uses
the same data set for something. It's basically a pseudo real-time search
app. Finally, for the actual implementation of it we show off, we could
have it center on Perl 6 / Rakudo / Parrot content.
Jon
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[mailto:thousand-oaks-pm-bounces+jbrown=reachlocal.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
shawn faison
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:26 PM
To:
Todd Presta
Cc: thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re:
[Thousand-oaks-pm] In anticipation of Perl 6 Hackathon
Hey Mongers,
Ive pondered a few ideas for our hackathon in no
particular order such as:
1. An IRC bot
2. A chat
client
3. A widget that parses a twitter feed and does some smart
operations on it.
4. Something using the Facebook api, Flickr api,
or Daylife api. Daylife is pretty cool , it aggregates all types of blogs and
news feeds. You can grab news based on location , time , weather and other
options.
5. A basic multiplayer roleplaying game with a web interface or
a MUD RPG. <-- this seems to be my default way of learning a new programming
language because its just fun
We could do a server and a client for this.
Im open to doing whatever though really and does anyone else have any
ideas ?
We could publish whatever we create and have a little catchy logo on
the web page that says "Created with Perl 6! or Created with Rakudo!" at the
bottom.
Best Regards
Shawn
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Todd Presta <toddpresta at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
TO.pm
I started a repo on GitHub to push some toy
programs initially, and to log some flight time with Rakudo Perl
6.
If you are interested, it is located at:
http://github.com/asciiville/perl6-playground
http://github.com/asciiville/perl6-playground/tree/master
(first URI redirects to this one)
Has anybody on the list
pondered a Perl 6 project for a hackathon or
otherwise?
Todd
-- Todd Presta
-- http://www.asciiville.com
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