From rhull2k at earthlink.net Mon Jan 2 13:29:38 2006 From: rhull2k at earthlink.net (Robert Hull) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:29:38 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006 Message-ID: <009201c60fe3$a30deef0$6c00a8c0@perlguy> I thought I would pass this along. Maybe we could invite Mark to one of our meetings. Robert ________________________________ From: losangeles-pm-bounces at pm.org on behalf of Christopher Nielsen Sent: Wed 12/28/2005 11:19 AM To: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Subject: [LA.pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006 Hiya, This announcement caught my eye, and I thought I would pass it along. Apparently, the author of Higher Order Perl, and an outspoken member in the Perl community, Mark Jason Dominus, is putting together a speaking schedule for 2006. I really enjoyed his book, and I've heard from people in ny.pm and phila.pm that Mark's talks are pretty engaging and fun. I wonder what people think about inviting MJD out here to speak? Or how he feels about being enticed away from his native PA for the palm tree shaded sunshine of Los Angeles sometime this winter maybe :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Dominus Date: Dec 13, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Please help me with my new book! To: ny at lists.pm.org Dear New York Perl Mongers, I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. It's about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more complete information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ .) To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other people wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book what I did and why. I have about half the examples that I need. I hope that the Perl community can provide the other half. For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl Mongers groups about this. I'd like to give about one talk each month for the rest of the year. What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come speak, and that some of the group members will send me some example code ahead of time. Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and give the talk. After I go home again, I'l' write up a book chapter about the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I gave the talk. (Of course, you can also send code even if you're not part of a Perl Mongers group or if I can't visit your group. The more contributions, the better.) Guidelines for code contributions are at http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html To contribute, send code to: mjd at plover.com Questions? Send them to: mjd at plover.com Want to invite me to speak to your group? Invitations to: mjd at plover.com You get the picture. Thanks. **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe ny" to majordomo at lists.pm.org** _______________________________________________ Losangeles-pm mailing list Losangeles-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From paul at pauljacobs.net Wed Jan 4 14:10:13 2006 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:10:13 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] next weeks meeting Message-ID: <9FC70908-67E7-434B-82FA-07C936AA740F@pauljacobs.net> Hi everyone. Let's do something different this year and get some plans going ahead of time for our meeting scheduled for a week from today, 1/11/6. First off, I propose we consider meeting at somewhere less formal. The hassle of having VC be so hard to find, making someone stay after and leave the door open, watch for people, etc.. is probably worth it (which is easy for me to say now that I don't have to do it anymore :), but it's worth trying something else. Some other PM groups I've heard about _only_ meet at restaurants and bars, perhaps there is emergent behavior there worth replicating.. So first issue is -- where. If we can't agree on something good by the day before, let's default back to VC. I'll vote for the Buddha Bar (http:// maps.google.com/maps? sll=34.156136,-118.789501&sspn=0.042758,0.053473&hl=en&q=bar&btnG=Search &latlng=34156136,-118789501,10314171620174247264) personally. Second issue - who. I'd just like to take a rough count of who is planning on going to be able to warn whichever place we go to (history informs us to take the expected headcount and multiply it by rand() to get the real headcount, but i'll use it anyway). Third issue - what. Who will present (and with what probability), and what will they present. If we have the informal thing, it should probably only be one or two five-minute presentations, but you know, whatever. - Paul From paul at pauljacobs.net Wed Jan 4 14:19:40 2006 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:19:40 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] next weeks meeting In-Reply-To: <9FC70908-67E7-434B-82FA-07C936AA740F@pauljacobs.net> References: <9FC70908-67E7-434B-82FA-07C936AA740F@pauljacobs.net> Message-ID: <57E30D04-73C6-407B-90F2-C52CAB32E8C5@pauljacobs.net> I just wanted to mention, I'm not suggesting we should stop meeting at VC ever, just that every once in a while we meet somewhere else. Every 2 or 3 times, maybe. - P On Jan 4, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Paul Jacobs wrote: > Hi everyone. > > Let's do something different this year and get some plans going ahead > of time for our meeting scheduled for a week from today, 1/11/6. > > First off, I propose we consider meeting at somewhere less formal. From adeltac at valueclick.com Wed Jan 4 14:49:44 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:49:44 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] next weeks meeting Message-ID: <9906CF1545A50A489C7E0A734E43AE98049B5AAA@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> > Hi everyone. > > Let's do something different this year and get some plans going ahead > of time for our meeting scheduled for a week from today, 1/11/6. You da man. > First off, I propose we consider meeting at somewhere less formal. > The hassle of having VC be so hard to find, making someone stay after > and leave the door open, watch for people, etc.. is probably worth it > (which is easy for me to say now that I don't have to do it > anymore :), but it's worth trying something else. Some other PM > groups I've heard about _only_ meet at restaurants and bars, perhaps > there is emergent behavior there worth replicating.. Well, I don't mind letting people in and I really like having a projector for presentations. But, if we can get more people to attend by moving to a more social atmosphere then so be it. > So first issue is -- where. > If we can't agree on something good by the day before, let's > default back to VC. I'll vote for the Buddha Bar (http:// > maps.google.com/maps? > sll=34.156136,-118.789501&sspn=0.042758,0.053473&hl=en&q=bar&btnG=Search > &latlng=34156136,-118789501,10314171620174247264) personally. Sounds good to me. > Second issue - who. I'd just like to take a rough count of who is > planning on going to be able to warn whichever place we go to > (history informs us to take the expected headcount and multiply it by > rand() to get the real headcount, but i'll use it anyway). > > Third issue - what. Who will present (and with what probability), and > what will they present. If we have the informal thing, it should > probably only be one or two five-minute presentations, but you know, > whatever. I'd like to present "DBIx::Class: What Your Grandma Dun Know". Aran > - Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm From jkiser at valueclick.com Wed Jan 4 16:05:35 2006 From: jkiser at valueclick.com (James Kiser) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:05:35 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] next weeks meeting Message-ID: I'm down with whatever and it sounds like some sort of location rotation would be best. Having the projector is a definite plus for presentations. Perhaps we can just discuss via email a week or so before every meeting? -James -----Original Message----- From: thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of Aran Deltac Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:50 PM To: Paul Jacobs; thousand-oaks-pm at mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] next weeks meeting > Hi everyone. > > Let's do something different this year and get some plans going ahead > of time for our meeting scheduled for a week from today, 1/11/6. You da man. > First off, I propose we consider meeting at somewhere less formal. > The hassle of having VC be so hard to find, making someone stay after > and leave the door open, watch for people, etc.. is probably worth it > (which is easy for me to say now that I don't have to do it > anymore :), but it's worth trying something else. Some other PM > groups I've heard about _only_ meet at restaurants and bars, perhaps > there is emergent behavior there worth replicating.. Well, I don't mind letting people in and I really like having a projector for presentations. But, if we can get more people to attend by moving to a more social atmosphere then so be it. > So first issue is -- where. > If we can't agree on something good by the day before, let's > default back to VC. I'll vote for the Buddha Bar (http:// > maps.google.com/maps? > sll=34.156136,-118.789501&sspn=0.042758,0.053473&hl=en&q=bar&btnG=Search > &latlng=34156136,-118789501,10314171620174247264) personally. Sounds good to me. > Second issue - who. I'd just like to take a rough count of who is > planning on going to be able to warn whichever place we go to > (history informs us to take the expected headcount and multiply it by > rand() to get the real headcount, but i'll use it anyway). > > Third issue - what. Who will present (and with what probability), and > what will they present. If we have the informal thing, it should > probably only be one or two five-minute presentations, but you know, > whatever. I'd like to present "DBIx::Class: What Your Grandma Dun Know". Aran > - Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm _______________________________________________ Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm From jim at reclaw.com Thu Jan 5 10:28:04 2006 From: jim at reclaw.com (Jim Walker) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:28:04 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] next weeks meeting In-Reply-To: <9FC70908-67E7-434B-82FA-07C936AA740F@pauljacobs.net> References: <9FC70908-67E7-434B-82FA-07C936AA740F@pauljacobs.net> Message-ID: <43BD6534.7000109@reclaw.com> I plan to make it. any place is cool with me. -- Jim Paul Jacobs wrote: >Hi everyone. > >Let's do something different this year and get some plans going ahead >of time for our meeting scheduled for a week from today, 1/11/6. > >First off, I propose we consider meeting at somewhere less formal. >The hassle of having VC be so hard to find, making someone stay after >and leave the door open, watch for people, etc.. is probably worth it >(which is easy for me to say now that I don't have to do it >anymore :), but it's worth trying something else. Some other PM >groups I've heard about _only_ meet at restaurants and bars, perhaps >there is emergent behavior there worth replicating.. > >So first issue is -- where. > If we can't agree on something good by the day before, let's >default back to VC. I'll vote for the Buddha Bar (http:// >maps.google.com/maps? >sll=34.156136,-118.789501&sspn=0.042758,0.053473&hl=en&q=bar&btnG=Search >&latlng=34156136,-118789501,10314171620174247264) personally. > >Second issue - who. I'd just like to take a rough count of who is >planning on going to be able to warn whichever place we go to >(history informs us to take the expected headcount and multiply it by >rand() to get the real headcount, but i'll use it anyway). > >Third issue - what. Who will present (and with what probability), and >what will they present. If we have the informal thing, it should >probably only be one or two five-minute presentations, but you know, >whatever. > >- Paul > >_______________________________________________ >Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list >Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > > > > From Daniel at Sherer.org Tue Jan 10 10:48:33 2006 From: Daniel at Sherer.org (Daniel Sherer) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:48:33 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Tomorrow's (Wed, 1/11/06) meeting location? Message-ID: <2817a58f0601101048o41733995p97cd1c830c5e955d@mail.gmail.com> So, what was the final consensus? Budda Bar at 7:00pm? Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thousand-oaks-pm/attachments/20060110/8d29cc10/attachment.html From jim at reclaw.com Tue Jan 10 11:20:43 2006 From: jim at reclaw.com (Jim Walker) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:20:43 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Tomorrow's (Wed, 1/11/06) meeting location? In-Reply-To: <2817a58f0601101048o41733995p97cd1c830c5e955d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2817a58f0601101048o41733995p97cd1c830c5e955d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C4090B.80702@reclaw.com> That sounds good to me. -- Jim Daniel Sherer wrote: > So, what was the final consensus? Budda Bar at 7:00pm? > > Daniel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list >Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > From adeltac at valueclick.com Tue Jan 10 11:23:36 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:23:36 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Tomorrow's (Wed, 1/11/06) meeting location? Message-ID: <9906CF1545A50A489C7E0A734E43AE9804B86C14@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> Sure, sounds great. I'm not going to try presenting anything this time - lets do ValueClick next month, that way I (and whoever else volunteers to present hint hint) can use the projector. I'm looking forward to just having fun and interesting conversation this time. Aran _____ From: thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Sherer Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:49 AM To: thousand-oaks-pm at mail.pm.org Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Tomorrow's (Wed, 1/11/06) meeting location? So, what was the final consensus? Budda Bar at 7:00pm? Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thousand-oaks-pm/attachments/20060110/43fd4f59/attachment.html From paul at pauljacobs.net Tue Jan 10 13:31:51 2006 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:31:51 -0800 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Tomorrow's (Wed, 1/11/06) meeting location? In-Reply-To: <9906CF1545A50A489C7E0A734E43AE9804B86C14@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> References: <9906CF1545A50A489C7E0A734E43AE9804B86C14@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> Message-ID: <5D5AD1EA-E44D-4570-AB0E-BBC143B06622@pauljacobs.net> Alrighty, it's settled then. Here's the info: Wed, Jan 11, 7pm @ Buddha Bar (818) 735-0091 30105 Agoura Rd Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Here's the map: http://maps.google.com/maps? sll=34.1975,-119.176111&sspn=0.287655,0.20977&hl=en&q=buddha +bar&btnG=Search&latlng=34197500,-119176111,10314171620174247264 I just called and let them know we're coming. Just ask for PerlMongers. - Paul PS - if you got this email and aren't on the perlmongers list, it's because I thought you might be interested anyway. On Jan 10, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Aran Deltac wrote: > Sure, sounds great. I?m not going to try presenting anything this > time ? lets do ValueClick next month, that way I (and whoever else > volunteers to present hint hint) can use the projector. I?m > looking forward to just having fun and interesting conversation > this time. > > > > Aran > > > > From: thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:thousand-oaks-pm- > bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Sherer > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:49 AM > To: thousand-oaks-pm at mail.pm.org > Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Tomorrow's (Wed, 1/11/06) meeting > location? > > > > So, what was the final consensus? Budda Bar at 7:00pm? > > > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The only thing about that (and it wasn't a condition for him to present, just an offer) is that he offered to host the February meeting at his office in Oxnard. It's a few miles farther away, at least for those of us in T.O./W.L.V., but it's not that far and you can use it as an excuse to go by and see the new Fry's. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thousand-oaks-pm/attachments/20060112/5245c6b4/attachment.html