From paul at pauljacobs.net Mon Dec 6 18:25:02 2004 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Tue Dec 7 11:48:51 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] ThousandOaks.pm Regular Meetings Begin (THIS Wed.) Message-ID: <6F7883F4-47E6-11D9-BE9E-003065F5E888@pauljacobs.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone. I've been lurking on LA.pm for a while but haven't yet made it to any LA.pm events. I'm writing to let anyone interested know that Thousand-Oaks.pm is now starting back up, we'll be having regular meetings, and we'd like more members.. We'll try to intentionally avoid having LA.pm and TO.pm events at the same time to avoid conflicts. - ------------------- This Wednesday, Dec. 8th, there will be a meeting of the Thousand Oaks Perl Mongers. This will be our first regular meeting: from now on, we'll meet at 7pm on the second Wednesday of each month. The meeting is scheduled to last through 8pm. This month: - - The usual networking and perl mongery - - Planning / Discussion of upcoming Blackjack Programming Competition - - Show & Tell member projects or favorite modules - - Basic Organizational Stuff Directions are available at: http://thousand-oaks.pm.org/directions-and-contact.html - ------ Sorry for the late notice. We will stick to the 2nd Wednesday schedule, so if you can't make it this time, feel free to consider this early notice for the Jan. meeting. - - Paul Jacobs - -- "Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBtPhv8PscfQd/jB4RAjHmAJ0bl7MY8WGQdWdEYxVcIqOhIcXwfgCfbixW JC37ovvWiAlzIFcj+liMP7I= =E745 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul at pauljacobs.net Mon Dec 6 18:38:46 2004 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Tue Dec 7 11:48:53 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] announcement Message-ID: <5ABB3308-47E8-11D9-BE9E-003065F5E888@pauljacobs.net> Ok, I announced to the LA.pm mailing list, and on usePerl. I think Terrence was going to post an announcement somewhere also, I forget where. Was anyone else still planning to announce? See you all on Wed. - Paul From tbrannon at valueclick.com Tue Dec 7 18:14:43 2004 From: tbrannon at valueclick.com (Terrence Brannon) Date: Tue Dec 7 18:14:53 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] announcement Message-ID: <6225C73BA2E30E46BC43A061878B21E006265F2C@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: thousand-oaks-pm-bounces@mail.pm.org > [mailto:thousand-oaks-pm-bounces@mail.pm.org] On Behalf Of Paul Jacobs > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:39 PM > To: thousand-oaks-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] announcement > > Ok, I announced to the LA.pm mailing list, and on usePerl. > I think Terrence was going to post an announcement somewhere > also, I forget where. Here it is: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=413064 From paul at pauljacobs.net Tue Dec 7 18:20:36 2004 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Tue Dec 7 18:20:39 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] announcement In-Reply-To: <6225C73BA2E30E46BC43A061878B21E006265F2C@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> References: <6225C73BA2E30E46BC43A061878B21E006265F2C@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> Message-ID: Excellent. Thank you. Anyone else want to plan to do a presentation, or show & tell? I'm going to go over what I've got so far with the blackjack stuff. Also, I wrote basic organizational stuff without really realizing what it meant. Perhaps it would help to precompute some of what we'd want to do there. - Paul On Dec 7, 2004, at 4:14 PM, Terrence Brannon wrote: > > Here it is: > > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=413064 > > From tbrannon at valueclick.com Wed Dec 8 11:38:06 2004 From: tbrannon at valueclick.com (Terrence Brannon) Date: Wed Dec 8 11:38:14 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] announcement Message-ID: <6225C73BA2E30E46BC43A061878B21E006265F2E@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Jacobs [mailto:paul@pauljacobs.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:21 PM > To: Terrence Brannon > Cc: thousand-oaks-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] announcement > > Excellent. Thank you. > > Anyone else want to plan to do a presentation, or show & tell? I want to talk about Commands::Guarded From paul at pauljacobs.net Thu Dec 9 00:03:07 2004 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Thu Dec 9 00:03:58 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] our meeting tonight Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It was great to see four new members show up this week. We almost doubled the attendance from our practice meeting last month, and it was actually very enjoyable watching Terrence's presentation and giving mine, and talking to all of you. Thank you all for coming. I forgot to mention when everyone was there, I'd like to put up a Members page, with a listing of whatever information we each want to give out (all fields optional): nickname (if desired, to indicate common usernames, to provide an id when a member doesn't want his or her real name published, etc..), name, email, instant messenger ids, public pgp/gpg keys, phone number, ... i'm just making this up now, it's all up for debate, so I'll stop there. But my initial idea was to post all our public keys (I hope we all have public keys, tsk, tsk.. ) on the website, so we could provide public authentication of anything produced by one of our members. I'd like to do that for myself at least. Daniel and I have had some issues with importing and transporting keys, it made me want a directory. Thoughts? About that source to the blackjack tournament system that I passed out: - It's very alpha, as I said. - There are at least a couple of things I thought were already implemented but were not. To be safe, consider what I said of it's functionality to be the plan rather than necessarily the current state of the code. The two examples I've found so far are the re-generation / clearing of the players' memories, and awarding 1.5 units for a blackjack. - I'll try to get it posted on the website by Monday afternoon. I'm not totally ready to let other people play with the source yet, once I do I'll possibly have to coordinate changes, etc.. I want to clean it up first so I don't get multiple other people doing it for me in slightly different ways. I want to shore up the coding style, fill a few obvious holes. Also. I enjoyed presenting this code a lot tonight. It got me thinking about writing an article along the same lines, that basically goes over the source; and outlines the history, motivation, and plan for the contest approximately like I did at the meeting tonight. So if you have an opinion, I'm curious: Presuming I can translate/edit the presentation to written form tolerably well, is this just excessive hubris on my part, or is it a legitimately good idea for promoting the contest, the module (which would be released via CPAN by the time the article is submitted anywhere), Thousand-Oaks.pm, and (I admit) myself? Honestly. Bug reports, even trivial ones, on the way I structured the presentation are very welcome. Even patches. I reserve the right to apply them to future releases in whatever form. :) - - Paul - --- Don't think that a small group of dedicated individuals can't change the world. it's the only thing that ever has. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBt+qh8PscfQd/jB4RAnwvAJ40SkpBW7LgKXRkMlLLVyQqjJ1TNQCePu2y Py6MYLvQ7hD8mg75msdWDB8= =tQbs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Thu Dec 9 10:37:22 2004 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Thu Dec 9 10:37:35 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] our meeting last night Message-ID: Paul, I agree, the meeting went very well. Both presentations were well done and worthwhile. You were both pressed for time, but perhaps leaving us eager for more is a good thing. We'll setup a "members only" page on the thousand-oaks.pm.org website. I can't wait to try out your blackjack game API. Please pass along our thanks to your employer for hosting the meetings. Daniel Sherer - Manager EIS Health Net (818) 676-7592 This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From paul at pauljacobs.net Fri Dec 17 05:16:13 2004 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Fri Dec 17 05:17:03 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Blackjack Code Delay Message-ID: <0FB5E99B-501D-11D9-A10E-003065F5E888@pauljacobs.net> Ok, clearly this recent monday was a bad estimate for when I'd be able to have the blackjack tournament package ready. I do intend to clean up & post the code. No date to miss this time. I'll do it when I can. Sorry for any inconvenience. - Paul From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Fri Dec 17 12:30:59 2004 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Fri Dec 17 12:32:50 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] new web server Message-ID: It appears as though the umbrella organization for "Perl Mongers" is changing their hosting setup and the individual groups will be changing slightly. Essentially, we'll still get e-mail lists and some free webspace, if we want it. Or, we can obtain our own site/hosting and they'll point to it. This is probably for the best. PM.org has had numerous problems over the years making it more difficult for groups like ours to maintain our sites. Seems like they get hacked a lot. Anyway, the changes should occur over the next few weeks. No emergency. But it might effect how we distribute Paul's application framework. Daniel Sherer - Manager EIS Health Net (818) 676-7592 --- Dave Cross wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:02:49 +0000 > From: Dave Cross > To: pm_groups@pm.org > CC: > Subject: [pm_groups] pm.org hosting changes > > For several years, the pm.org server has been hosted for free by > Rackspace and we're very grateful to them for the help they've > given us. > Unfortunately, that free service will be ending very early next > year and the pm.org server will be moving elsewhere. > > As part of the move we are going to have to scale down the level of > service that we provide for Perl Monger local groups. Once the new > server is established we will provide the following for free: > > * Web sites with static content only. > * FTP and/or WebDAV access to maintain web sites. > * Mailing lists. > * DNS > > The major changes will be that no dynamic content will be allowed > and no > group leaders will have shell access to the server. We're sorry > that we > have to put this restrictions in place, but the internet is a very > different place to what is was when we set the service up many > years > ago. If you want to host your site on a less restrictive server > that you > have more control over then we are, as always, happy to point the > DNS > records at another server. This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From paul at pauljacobs.net Fri Dec 17 12:38:27 2004 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Fri Dec 17 12:38:32 2004 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] new web server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't think it'll be a big issue. I had planned to put it on CPAN, not PM. Maybe also my personal site, but more as a grouping thing than as the official release location. Thanks for the heads-up though. On Dec 17, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com wrote: > Anyway, the changes should occur over the next few weeks. No > emergency. > But it might effect how we distribute Paul's application framework.