From geekwraith at gmail.com Sat Dec 11 12:16:45 2004 From: geekwraith at gmail.com (It's me.) Date: Sat Dec 11 12:16:48 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail Message-ID: <94cc912c04121110161f8e209@mail.gmail.com> Hi, all. I've been away a long time due to mostly not working anymore. I'm working today, though, and since I have a perl problem, guess who I immediately thought of? :o) So I finally got around to subscribing with a non-work email address. If anyone's around at the moment who might be able to help, would you drop me a line so I can pester you with questions? Thanks if so, and if not, still glad to be back. :o) Rebekah From jptillman at comcast.net Sat Dec 11 17:11:16 2004 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Sat Dec 11 17:09:51 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail In-Reply-To: <94cc912c04121110161f8e209@mail.gmail.com> References: <94cc912c04121110161f8e209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41BB7E94.6070704@comcast.net> I'm around. ask away... It's me. wrote: >Hi, all. > >I've been away a long time due to mostly not working anymore. I'm >working today, though, and since I have a perl problem, guess who I >immediately thought of? :o) > >So I finally got around to subscribing with a non-work email address. >If anyone's around at the moment who might be able to help, would you >drop me a line so I can pester you with questions? > >Thanks if so, and if not, still glad to be back. :o) > >Rebekah >_______________________________________________ >Tallahassee-pm mailing list >Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > > From holguinh at homesandland.com Mon Dec 13 12:20:21 2004 From: holguinh at homesandland.com (Hector Holguin) Date: Mon Dec 13 12:20:24 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail References: <94cc912c04121110161f8e209@mail.gmail.com> <41BB7E94.6070704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01b001c4e140$68710390$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> I'm still around as well. What are the symptoms? Hector ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Tillman" To: "It's me." Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail > I'm around. ask away... > > > It's me. wrote: > >>Hi, all. >> >>I've been away a long time due to mostly not working anymore. I'm >>working today, though, and since I have a perl problem, guess who I >>immediately thought of? :o) >> >>So I finally got around to subscribing with a non-work email address. >>If anyone's around at the moment who might be able to help, would you >>drop me a line so I can pester you with questions? >> >>Thanks if so, and if not, still glad to be back. :o) >> >>Rebekah >>_______________________________________________ >>Tallahassee-pm mailing list >>Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From geekwraith at gmail.com Fri Dec 17 17:56:52 2004 From: geekwraith at gmail.com (It's me.) Date: Fri Dec 17 17:56:54 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail In-Reply-To: <002f01c4e2e3$dfba0420$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> References: <94cc912c04121110161f8e209@mail.gmail.com> <41BB7E94.6070704@comcast.net> <01b001c4e140$68710390$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> <94cc912c04121508073de2cc97@mail.gmail.com> <002f01c4e2e3$dfba0420$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> Message-ID: <94cc912c04121715567002caed@mail.gmail.com> Forgot to cc this last time... On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:23:01 -0500, Hector Holguin wrote: > Hi, Rebekah, > > Lets see what can we do about this... But, remember, I am not a sys-admin > "guru" =) and most of what I do is programming... > > From reading your message and thinking of previous experiences, I get the > feeling that the problem is actually happening on the web server before the > scripts execute. Problems in the configuration might prevent the web server > from running certain scripts, although they run fine from the console. So, > with that said, I suggest we change our focus from the scripts to the > configuration of the web server. I spent some time Wednesday on the phone with the hosting company's tech support. The guy I talked to basically went through everything that had already been tried, and then said that when they rebuilt their server they had problems too and rolled back to a previous linux kernel. I had actually noticed the problems because a php script on that server suddenly started misbehaving... turned out the regex was ignoring the (i). Anyway, it seems I'm just going to have to put together another server. Still, can't help trying... > Assuming you are using Apache on a development environment, It's a production environment. It was supposed to be a simple transfer of the site from one server to another. Ha! lol . I suggest you > check to see if it is using the suEXEC module to control setuid operations > (for more on this read: > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/1445/1/) and disable it > temporarily as follows: > > - Look for a file named 'suexec' (over here on Fedora C3 is under > /usr/sbin/) and rename it. > - Restart the web server via Plesk 7 or by running '/etc/init.d/httpd > restart' as root. I read the tutorial, being a compulsive tutorial reader, and by the way damn you for making me bookmark far too many other tutorials, and found the following: Up until Apache version 1.3.11, there was no way to be sure where a compiled Apache server is going to be looking for the suexec binary. As of 1.3.11, though, it's part of the 'compiled modules' report displayed by the '-l' switch: % /usr/local/web/apache/bin/httpd -l Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_so.c suexec: enabled; valid wrapper /usr/local/web/apache/bin/suexec I called in and had someone do that for me, and the compiled modules report didn't return any info on suexec at all. Since plesk uses its own directory structure and rewrites conf files on the fly, I'm not entirely sanguine about the accuracy of the results, but since the report was generated it's probably the right one. I wasn't about to try to walk anyone there through looking elsewhere for it or anything. I'll just have to wait till next time I go in, which might not be till after the kids are back in school. :o\ > If you can't find suEXEC or disabling it doesn't make a difference, then > we'll need more info to keep going. If you have something in mind already, what info should I try to gather, assuming I haven't already started on a new server? :o) Thanks much! Rebekah From holguinh at homesandland.com Mon Dec 20 09:25:12 2004 From: holguinh at homesandland.com (Hector Holguin) Date: Mon Dec 20 09:25:21 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail References: <94cc912c04121110161f8e209@mail.gmail.com> <41BB7E94.6070704@comcast.net> <01b001c4e140$68710390$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> <94cc912c04121508073de2cc97@mail.gmail.com> <002f01c4e2e3$dfba0420$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> <94cc912c04121715567002caed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004f01c4e6a8$19a38ea0$4b13afc6@HOLGUIN> > If you have something in mind already, what info should I try to > gather, assuming I haven't already started on a new server? :o) 1- Run one of your scripts and look for entries on the server error log. 2- Check to see if you are able to run any other Perl script from the same directory. 3- How about from a different location? 4- Check the configuration file (httpd.conf) or the Plesk 7 version of it to see if execution of cgi scripts is permitted (Options ExecCGI) on the location/directory of your scripts. There is more I could look for in the configuration file, but I don't know how deep you want to go since it is a production environment and I don't work for the company. Alternatively, you could read more about it at httpd.apache.org and go from there. Oh, btw, sorry about the tutorials. I didn't know you had tutorial issues =) Hector ----- Original Message ----- From: "It's me." To: "Hector Holguin" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] long time no mail > Forgot to cc this last time... > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:23:01 -0500, Hector Holguin > wrote: >> Hi, Rebekah, >> >> Lets see what can we do about this... But, remember, I am not a >> sys-admin >> "guru" =) and most of what I do is programming... >> >> From reading your message and thinking of previous experiences, I get the >> feeling that the problem is actually happening on the web server before >> the >> scripts execute. Problems in the configuration might prevent the web >> server >> from running certain scripts, although they run fine from the console. >> So, >> with that said, I suggest we change our focus from the scripts to the >> configuration of the web server. > > I spent some time Wednesday on the phone with the hosting company's > tech support. The guy I talked to basically went through everything > that had already been tried, and then said that when they rebuilt > their server they had problems too and rolled back to a previous linux > kernel. I had actually noticed the problems because a php script on > that server suddenly started misbehaving... turned out the regex was > ignoring the (i). Anyway, it seems I'm just going to have to put > together another server. Still, can't help trying... > >> Assuming you are using Apache on a development environment, > > It's a production environment. It was supposed to be a simple > transfer of the site from one server to another. Ha! lol > > . I suggest you >> check to see if it is using the suEXEC module to control setuid >> operations >> (for more on this read: >> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/1445/1/) and disable it >> temporarily as follows: >> >> - Look for a file named 'suexec' (over here on Fedora C3 is under >> /usr/sbin/) and rename it. >> - Restart the web server via Plesk 7 or by running '/etc/init.d/httpd >> restart' as root. > > I read the tutorial, being a compulsive tutorial reader, and by the > way damn you for making me bookmark far too many other tutorials, and > found the following: > > Up until Apache version 1.3.11, there was no way to be sure where a > compiled Apache server is going to be looking for the suexec binary. > As of 1.3.11, though, it's part of the 'compiled modules' report > displayed by the '-l' switch: > > % /usr/local/web/apache/bin/httpd -l > Compiled-in modules: > http_core.c > mod_so.c > suexec: enabled; valid wrapper /usr/local/web/apache/bin/suexec > > I called in and had someone do that for me, and the compiled modules > report didn't return any info on suexec at all. Since plesk uses its > own directory structure and rewrites conf files on the fly, I'm not > entirely sanguine about the accuracy of the results, but since the > report was generated it's probably the right one. I wasn't about to > try to walk anyone there through looking elsewhere for it or anything. > I'll just have to wait till next time I go in, which might not be > till after the kids are back in school. :o\ > >> If you can't find suEXEC or disabling it doesn't make a difference, then >> we'll need more info to keep going. > > If you have something in mind already, what info should I try to > gather, assuming I haven't already started on a new server? :o) > > Thanks much! > > Rebekah