From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Sat Nov 1 09:54:41 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PHP vs. Perl Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00E8E@exchange.fdle.gov> This article seemed apropos to our discussion in the PM meeting the other day about PHP vs. Perl: http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2002/papers/html/php/index.html jpt From jptillman at comcast.net Sat Nov 1 19:38:25 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] [Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 31] Message-ID: <1067737105.2638.235.camel@jacob.home> -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Marsee Henon > To: jtillman@bigfoot.com > Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 31 > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:52:19 -0800 > > ================================================================ > O'Reilly UG Program News--Just for User Group Leaders > October 31, 2003 > ================================================================ > -CD copies of Mac Developer Journal issue number one for your members > -Do You Have a Tip, Suggestion, or Question to Share? > -Put Up an Emerging Technology Conference Banner, Get a Free Book > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Book Info > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ***Review books are available > Copies of our books are available for your members to review-- > send me an email and please include the book order number on > your request. 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Apple is > introducing Xcode, along with Panther, and Davidson takes it for a spin > and reports on his initial findings. > http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/10/24/panther.html > > > Until next time-- > > Marsee > > > > From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Tue Nov 4 08:36:40 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] NFANP Friday November 8th at Noon. Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F1B@exchange2k.fcul.com> The North Florida Association of Network Professionals www.nfanp.org will be holding it's monthly meeting this Friday at the Ryan's Family Restaurant on Mahan starting at noon. I'll be presenting on Open Source Spam Filtering solutions, namely Mimedefang/SpamAss/Virpuls Razor. The target audience is probably going to mainly be people from Microsoft shops, so I expect a lot of time to be spent on getting a RedHat box up and going, and the vagaries of compiling sendmail. Fair warning that this will probably not be cutting edge stuff for you older Linux/Unix hacks, but I'll try and make it worthwhile for all that attend. Phillip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/tallahassee-pm/attachments/20031104/2d3651cc/attachment.htm From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Tue Nov 4 09:06:54 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] NFANP Friday November 8th at Noon. Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00E94@exchange.fdle.gov> Phillip: I'll do my best to be there this time. The last 2 meetings got pre-empted by work-related stuff, but I'd sure like to see your presentation! jpt -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Tyre [mailto:phillip.tyre@fcul.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:37 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] NFANP Friday November 8th at Noon. The North Florida Association of Network Professionals www.nfanp.org will be holding it's monthly meeting this Friday at the Ryan's Family Restaurant on Mahan starting at noon. I'll be presenting on Open Source Spam Filtering solutions, namely Mimedefang/SpamAss/Virpuls Razor. The target audience is probably going to mainly be people from Microsoft shops, so I expect a lot of time to be spent on getting a RedHat box up and going, and the vagaries of compiling sendmail. Fair warning that this will probably not be cutting edge stuff for you older Linux/Unix hacks, but I'll try and make it worthwhile for all that attend. Phillip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/tallahassee-pm/attachments/20031104/3001b352/attachment.htm From rlandbeck at uniteddatatronics.com Fri Nov 7 10:51:46 2003 From: rlandbeck at uniteddatatronics.com (Rebekah Landbeck) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] web design job Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20031107114400.0165f9b8@10.1.4.76> Ages ago, my company wanted me to build a new website for us because our current one sucks. Really sucks. The project kept being put off till I finished "this one thing", and they keep finding new urgent things for me to do, and I keep telling them that while back-end stuff is great I just don't have any graphic design expertise at all, so they've finally decided they need to get someone else to create the site. They're not offering much. They're thinking in terms of a $9/hr part time gig. If someone has real expertise and can do a cutting-edge-look dynamic site quickly, I bet there's some negotiating room, maybe a flat fee or something. Just thought I'd let you guys know, being mostly local and all, in case anyone'd be interested. :o) Rebekah Landbeck Systems Analyst United Datatronics, Inc. 850.942.9112 From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Fri Nov 7 14:05:11 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] web design job Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F34@exchange2k.fcul.com> Nagios is the program you wanted an email about. www.nagios.org -----Original Message----- From: Rebekah Landbeck [mailto:rlandbeck@uniteddatatronics.com] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:52 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] web design job Ages ago, my company wanted me to build a new website for us because our current one sucks. Really sucks. The project kept being put off till I finished "this one thing", and they keep finding new urgent things for me to do, and I keep telling them that while back-end stuff is great I just don't have any graphic design expertise at all, so they've finally decided they need to get someone else to create the site. They're not offering much. They're thinking in terms of a $9/hr part time gig. If someone has real expertise and can do a cutting-edge-look dynamic site quickly, I bet there's some negotiating room, maybe a flat fee or something. Just thought I'd let you guys know, being mostly local and all, in case anyone'd be interested. :o) Rebekah Landbeck Systems Analyst United Datatronics, Inc. 850.942.9112 _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Fri Nov 7 14:12:11 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] ISSA -RSA conference. Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F36@exchange2k.fcul.com> The November 5th date couldn't be kept due to us not having the 10 members present we needed to form the Tallahassee Chapter. If you happen to know anyone that might be interested, have them send me an email. While you are at it, there are a few people from Tallahassee planning to go to the RSA Security Conference in February. www.rsaconference.com . I'm one of them, so while I'm bending your ear with things that are not Perl, I'll mention that you can drop me a line if you are attending, and we can all get drinks one night. -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Tyre Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:56 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] ISSA Just wanted to mention that I know someone trying to form a Tallahassee chapter of the ISSA (Information Systems Security Association http://www.issa.org ). First meeting is tentatively set for November the 5th. If anyone is interested, drop me a line, and I'll give you some more info. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/tallahassee-pm/attachments/20031107/ae61a5ff/attachment.htm From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Nov 12 06:31:57 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00EBD@exchange.fdle.gov> Hello all. Sorry for the short notice, but I saw that we missed our "first Thursday of the month" already. Things have been far too complicated for me lately. Would we be able to have a PerlMonger meeting next Thursday, 6:30PM, at the Black Dog Cafe? If we get at least 4 positive responses, I would think it's okay to consider it a go. I'll be providing a presentation on Perl and its use in Web Services. How comprehensive that presentation is will depend on the time I'm able to scrounge up and the resources I can muster. I _can_ say that it will be worth the time for anyone who's interested in using Perl to do web services, SOAP, XML-RPC, or plain ol' XML. Please respond if you'll be able to make it! jpt From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Nov 12 06:39:46 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00EBE@exchange.fdle.gov> I meant next week, the 20th. The subject line should have helped, but I could definitely have been more clear. Thanks for clarifying, Scott! jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Keller, Scott > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:35 AM > To: Tillman, James > Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? > > > Jamie, > > "Next" Thursday as in the 13th (tomorrow) or the 20th? > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tillman, James > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:32 AM > To: 'tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org' > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? > > > Hello all. Sorry for the short notice, but I saw that we > missed our "first > Thursday of the month" already. Things have been far too > complicated for me > lately. > > Would we be able to have a PerlMonger meeting next Thursday, > 6:30PM, at the > Black Dog Cafe? If we get at least 4 positive responses, I > would think it's > okay to consider it a go. > > I'll be providing a presentation on Perl and its use in Web > Services. How > comprehensive that presentation is will depend on the time I'm able to > scrounge up and the resources I can muster. I _can_ say that > it will be > worth the time for anyone who's interested in using Perl to > do web services, > SOAP, XML-RPC, or plain ol' XML. > > Please respond if you'll be able to make it! > > jpt > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > From ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Nov 12 07:09:28 2003 From: ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us (Cushard, Todd) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB4C55EA@exchange.fdle.gov> I will be there! Todd Cushard -----Original Message----- From: Tillman, James Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:40 AM To: 'tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org' Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? I meant next week, the 20th. The subject line should have helped, but I could definitely have been more clear. Thanks for clarifying, Scott! jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Keller, Scott > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:35 AM > To: Tillman, James > Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? > > > Jamie, > > "Next" Thursday as in the 13th (tomorrow) or the 20th? > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tillman, James > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:32 AM > To: 'tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org' > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? > > > Hello all. Sorry for the short notice, but I saw that we > missed our "first > Thursday of the month" already. Things have been far too > complicated for me > lately. > > Would we be able to have a PerlMonger meeting next Thursday, > 6:30PM, at the > Black Dog Cafe? If we get at least 4 positive responses, I > would think it's > okay to consider it a go. > > I'll be providing a presentation on Perl and its use in Web > Services. How > comprehensive that presentation is will depend on the time I'm able to > scrounge up and the resources I can muster. I _can_ say that > it will be > worth the time for anyone who's interested in using Perl to > do web services, > SOAP, XML-RPC, or plain ol' XML. > > Please respond if you'll be able to make it! > > jpt > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Wed Nov 12 08:45:44 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F4B@exchange2k.fcul.com> Ahhhhhh! Just the presentation I want to see! I'll do my best, but I may not know for sure until a few more days. Phillip -----Original Message----- From: Tillman, James [mailto:JamesTillman@fdle.state.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:32 AM To: 'tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org' Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? Hello all. Sorry for the short notice, but I saw that we missed our "first Thursday of the month" already. Things have been far too complicated for me lately. Would we be able to have a PerlMonger meeting next Thursday, 6:30PM, at the Black Dog Cafe? If we get at least 4 positive responses, I would think it's okay to consider it a go. I'll be providing a presentation on Perl and its use in Web Services. How comprehensive that presentation is will depend on the time I'm able to scrounge up and the resources I can muster. I _can_ say that it will be worth the time for anyone who's interested in using Perl to do web services, SOAP, XML-RPC, or plain ol' XML. Please respond if you'll be able to make it! jpt _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Tue Nov 18 09:47:50 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F5C@exchange2k.fcul.com> So did we get 4 positive responses, or no? I didn't see 4 on the list, but maybe you were emailed? (Here's hoping). > Would we be able to have a PerlMonger meeting next Thursday [the 20th], > 6:30PM, at the > Black Dog Cafe? If we get at least 4 positive responses, I > would think it's > okay to consider it a go. > > I'll be providing a presentation on Perl and its use in Web > Services. How > comprehensive that presentation is will depend on the time I'm able to > scrounge up and the resources I can muster. I _can_ say that > it will be > worth the time for anyone who's interested in using Perl to > do web services, > SOAP, XML-RPC, or plain ol' XML. > > Please respond if you'll be able to make it! > > jpt > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From jtillman at bigfoot.com Tue Nov 18 18:27:47 2003 From: jtillman at bigfoot.com (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Can we meet next week? In-Reply-To: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F5C@exchange2k.fcul.com> References: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F5C@exchange2k.fcul.com> Message-ID: <1069201667.3870.1160.camel@jacob.home> Wellllll, we got 3 positive responses. Including me, that's 4 so let's go ahead and do it! jpt On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:47, Phillip Tyre wrote: > So did we get 4 positive responses, or no? I didn't see 4 on the list, > but maybe you were emailed? (Here's hoping). > > > > > > Would we be able to have a PerlMonger meeting next Thursday [the > 20th], > > 6:30PM, at the > > Black Dog Cafe? If we get at least 4 positive responses, I > > would think it's > > okay to consider it a go. > > > > I'll be providing a presentation on Perl and its use in Web > > Services. How > > comprehensive that presentation is will depend on the time I'm able to > > scrounge up and the resources I can muster. I _can_ say that > > it will be > > worth the time for anyone who's interested in using Perl to > > do web services, > > SOAP, XML-RPC, or plain ol' XML. > > > > Please respond if you'll be able to make it! > > > > jpt > > _______________________________________________ > > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Thu Nov 20 08:00:17 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Reminder: PM Meeting tonight! Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00EF0@exchange.fdle.gov> Just a reminder to everyone that we're having a PerlMonger's meeting tonight at the Black Dog Cafe, 6:30PM. I've got my presentation on Web Services ready. It will cover a pretty wide range of topics, with handouts and sample code. jpt From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Sat Nov 22 12:31:20 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Soap presentation Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F72@exchange2k.fcul.com> A big round of applause for Jamie for that excellent presentation on soap/xml. Thank you for the time and effort, I got a god bit from it. pt From jptillman at comcast.net Sun Nov 23 07:53:13 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Soap presentation In-Reply-To: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F72@exchange2k.fcul.com> References: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F72@exchange2k.fcul.com> Message-ID: <1069595591.3870.1651.camel@jacob.home> Thanks, Phillip. I especially appreciated the interaction and questions that came up during the presentation. It was nice for it to be a give-and-take session, rather than just me running my mouth. I forgot to point out something in the meeting: several sites provide "web servicy" type interfaces. Google and Oreilly's Meerkat are the most famous: http://www.google.com/apis/ (They use SOAP and WSDL. Very hip.) http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/rss/2000/05/09/meerkat_api.html (The coolest thing about Meerkat is its backend is written in Perl. It's one of the coolest news services on the net in my book) Google is a search engine web service. Meerkat is an RSS web service. The neat thing about Meerkat is that it supports querystring-based access (Attn: Mike!), XML-RPC, and SOAP access. This allows you to use it as a learning tool when you're learning Web Services. (hint, hint, hint) The Web Services in Perl book uses the Meerkat service for its examples. Pretty handy. jpt On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 13:31, Phillip Tyre wrote: > A big round of applause for Jamie for that excellent presentation on > soap/xml. > > Thank you for the time and effort, I got a god bit from it. > > pt > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Mon Nov 24 08:06:12 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Soap presentation Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F74@exchange2k.fcul.com> >From "Professional PHP Web Services" Re: UDDI * Unlike normal search engines, the discovery layer is XML-based and is exposed as a Web Service, which may also have a web interface as operators currently do to make them easy for people to use. By using a Web Service registry to look up other Web Services, software systems can dynamically look up the description for a Web Service, download it, and generate a client automatically at runtime. * Hehe, doesn't sound easy, but there you go! Unfortunately a bit of looking turns up: * July 15, 2003 - A few years ago, when Web services were envisioned as creating interconnected applications that spanned across businesses, public Universal Description, Discovery and Integration (UDDI) registries were seen as a tree on which to find the fruit-or external Web services. Now that Web services are used almost exclusively for internal development and integration, not only has the hype surrounding the public UDDI registries subsided, but the information in them hasn't grown either. "In general, the public registry is not seeing a lot of action," said Jim Sweeney, director of product development at WAND Inc., which built a third-party registry for IBM Corp. * http://www.sdtimes.com/news/082/special2.htm for the full article. I rate it worth the read. https://uddi.ibm.com/ubr/registry.html can get you to IBM's UDDI registry, but you have to register for access. -----Original Message----- From: James Tillman [mailto:jptillman@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:53 AM To: Phillip Tyre Cc: PerlMongers Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] Soap presentation Thanks, Phillip. I especially appreciated the interaction and questions that came up during the presentation. It was nice for it to be a give-and-take session, rather than just me running my mouth. I forgot to point out something in the meeting: several sites provide "web servicy" type interfaces. Google and Oreilly's Meerkat are the most famous: http://www.google.com/apis/ (They use SOAP and WSDL. Very hip.) http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/rss/2000/05/09/meerkat_api.html (The coolest thing about Meerkat is its backend is written in Perl. It's one of the coolest news services on the net in my book) Google is a search engine web service. Meerkat is an RSS web service. The neat thing about Meerkat is that it supports querystring-based access (Attn: Mike!), XML-RPC, and SOAP access. This allows you to use it as a learning tool when you're learning Web Services. (hint, hint, hint) The Web Services in Perl book uses the Meerkat service for its examples. Pretty handy. jpt On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 13:31, Phillip Tyre wrote: > A big round of applause for Jamie for that excellent presentation on > soap/xml. > > Thank you for the time and effort, I got a god bit from it. > > pt > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From phillip.tyre at fcul.com Mon Nov 24 09:57:52 2003 From: phillip.tyre at fcul.com (Phillip Tyre) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:03 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Open source in the data center, slash dot article. Message-ID: <39B5739894E97B40A427C59317BF2CD3878F77@exchange2k.fcul.com> I'm sure you guys saw it, but just incase you didn't, http://slashdot.org had a post about open source in the datacenter http://slashdot.org/articles/03/11/23/1522232.shtml?tid=187 &tid89 The meat is a presentation from Comdex http://www.localareasecurity.com/index.php?name=PagEd &page_id=3 that gives an overview of some of the OS products you might find in a datacenter. pt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/tallahassee-pm/attachments/20031124/acb98865/attachment.htm