From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Thu Apr 10 08:01:13 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (JamesTillman@fdle.state.fl.us) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:57 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00817@exchange.fdle.gov> Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next Thursday (4/17)? Would that work for you? If not, how about the following Thursday (4/24)? Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last time. See the wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need directions again. (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! jpt From ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us Thu Apr 10 08:20:52 2003 From: ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us (ToddCushard@fdle.state.fl.us) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB4C5370@exchange.fdle.gov> 4/17 is fine with me! -----Original Message----- From: Tillman, James Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:01 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next Thursday (4/17)? Would that work for you? If not, how about the following Thursday (4/24)? Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last time. See the wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need directions again. (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! jpt _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From holguinh at homesandland.com Thu Apr 10 12:11:51 2003 From: holguinh at homesandland.com (Hector A. Holguin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? References: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C00817@exchange.fdle.gov> Message-ID: <002701c2ff84$4719e300$6712afc6@hector> Thursday 4/17 is OK with me. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next Thursday (4/17)? > Would that work for you? If not, how about the following Thursday (4/24)? > > Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last time. See the > wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need directions again. > (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). > > Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! > > jpt > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Fri Apr 11 05:51:54 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (JamesTillman@fdle.state.fl.us) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C0081D@exchange.fdle.gov> It looks like a majority of us can make it on Thursday next week, so let's meet then. Anyone have a suggested time? We did 6:30PM last time, I think, but that ended up being a early for me. Anyone interested in moving it to 7:30PM? That might give some time for those of us who work late to grab a bite to eat before coming (Black Dog Cafe doesn't have much in the way of full meals). Let me know what would make things easier for you. jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Hector A. Holguin [mailto:holguinh@homesandland.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:12 PM > To: Tillman, James; tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > Thursday 4/17 is OK with me. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:01 AM > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > > Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next > Thursday (4/17)? > > Would that work for you? If not, how about the following > Thursday (4/24)? > > > > Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last > time. See the > > wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need > directions again. > > (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). > > > > Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! > > > > jpt > > _______________________________________________ > > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > From ScottKeller at fdle.state.fl.us Fri Apr 11 06:35:54 2003 From: ScottKeller at fdle.state.fl.us (ScottKeller@fdle.state.fl.us) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB04375623@exchange.fdle.gov> My preference is the earliest time that is acceptable to everyone else. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Tillman, James Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:52 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? It looks like a majority of us can make it on Thursday next week, so let's meet then. Anyone have a suggested time? We did 6:30PM last time, I think, but that ended up being a early for me. Anyone interested in moving it to 7:30PM? That might give some time for those of us who work late to grab a bite to eat before coming (Black Dog Cafe doesn't have much in the way of full meals). Let me know what would make things easier for you. jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Hector A. Holguin [mailto:holguinh@homesandland.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:12 PM > To: Tillman, James; tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > Thursday 4/17 is OK with me. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:01 AM > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > > Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next > Thursday (4/17)? > > Would that work for you? If not, how about the following > Thursday (4/24)? > > > > Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last > time. See the > > wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need > directions again. > > (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). > > > > Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! > > > > jpt > > _______________________________________________ > > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us Fri Apr 11 06:37:24 2003 From: ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us (ToddCushard@fdle.state.fl.us) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB4C5374@exchange.fdle.gov> Me too. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Scott Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:36 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? My preference is the earliest time that is acceptable to everyone else. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Tillman, James Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:52 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? It looks like a majority of us can make it on Thursday next week, so let's meet then. Anyone have a suggested time? We did 6:30PM last time, I think, but that ended up being a early for me. Anyone interested in moving it to 7:30PM? That might give some time for those of us who work late to grab a bite to eat before coming (Black Dog Cafe doesn't have much in the way of full meals). Let me know what would make things easier for you. jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Hector A. Holguin [mailto:holguinh@homesandland.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:12 PM > To: Tillman, James; tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > Thursday 4/17 is OK with me. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:01 AM > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > > Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next > Thursday (4/17)? > > Would that work for you? If not, how about the following > Thursday (4/24)? > > > > Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last > time. See the > > wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need > directions again. > > (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). > > > > Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! > > > > jpt > > _______________________________________________ > > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From jptillman at comcast.net Sun Apr 13 19:47:26 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? In-Reply-To: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB4C5374@exchange.fdle.gov> References: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB4C5374@exchange.fdle.gov> Message-ID: <1050281247.7141.5.camel@jacob.home> It looks like several of us would prefer to not make the meeting time late than our previous meeting. That's no problem for me at all, so let's make it 6:30PM on Thursday, April 17, 2003 at the Black Dog Cafe in Tallahasee, FL. Again, if you need directions, please check the wiki (link to it from tallahassee.pm.org). I think we'll be on the back deck of the cafe, since we ended up there last time, and it was much more comfortable. Come one; come all! I've got more books to share (see the wiki for what's available, click on "Library" in the upper right hand corner). Also, I've got an interesting proposal to make. You'll have to come to the meeting to find out what it is ;-) jpt On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 07:37, ToddCushard@fdle.state.fl.us wrote: > Me too. > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keller, Scott > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:36 AM > To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > My preference is the earliest time that is acceptable to everyone else. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tillman, James > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:52 AM > To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > It looks like a majority of us can make it on Thursday next week, so let's > meet then. Anyone have a suggested time? We did 6:30PM last time, I think, > but that ended up being a early for me. Anyone interested in moving it to > 7:30PM? That might give some time for those of us who work late to grab a > bite to eat before coming (Black Dog Cafe doesn't have much in the way of > full meals). Let me know what would make things easier for you. > > jpt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hector A. Holguin [mailto:holguinh@homesandland.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:12 PM > > To: Tillman, James; tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > > > > Thursday 4/17 is OK with me. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:01 AM > > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] PerlMongers: How about a date? > > > > > > > Guys: Howzabout we try to make our 2nd PM meeting next > > Thursday (4/17)? > > > Would that work for you? If not, how about the following > > Thursday (4/24)? > > > > > > Regardless of date, we could meet at the same place as last > > time. See the > > > wiki (link from http://tallahassee.pm.org) if you need > > directions again. > > > (I've even got a Yahoo map link on there). > > > > > > Sorry I've been so quiet lately. Things have been awful busy! > > > > > > jpt > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > > > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From jptillman at comcast.net Thu Apr 17 21:19:58 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Second meeting was great! Message-ID: <1050632399.6228.24.camel@jacob.home> Hi all. I just got back from the second meeting of the Tallahassee PerlMongers Group and I feel like it was a great success. We welcomed a new member, Marie Duncan. Others in attendance were Todd Cushard, Scott Keller, and James Tillman (me!). Thanks to all who came. I love that we're forming such an open-minded, free-thinking group. And I'd like to put out a challenge to those who couldn't make it this time to try to make it to the next meeting. We had some good discussions about how to get started on learning Perl and about learning unix-y things. Marie's experience in learning systems prompted a lot of talk about how we learn things in general, and brought up some interesting ideas about how we remember what we learn and how we each learn in different ways. We probably discussed lots of other things, but for some reason I can only remember the first 10 minutes and the last 10 minutes of the meeting... ;-) I brought up an opportunity I had noticed in the most recent issue of the Perl.com email newsletter. The Perl Foundation (http://www.perlfoundation.org) provides funding for worthy projects, and they are currently taking proposals. I thought it might be nice to submit an idea (or ideas) for consideration. Even if we don't get funding, we had already discussed the concept of a "group project" at our last meeting. Surely the possibility of a cash incentive would get our creative juices flowing! Talk mainly centered on projects that I've started in the past, but which have fallen by the wayside due to lack of time and resources, but which could be picked up and continued if we wished: * Guido: http://guido.sf.net/ * paix: http://sf.net/projects/paix/ * CodeBank: http://codebank.sf.net/ But another idea for an implementation of Java's Ant for Perl came up, as well. I made it clear that my ideas should not be the only ones we consider and that we should all put our thinking caps on. We decided to hash out our ideas on the mailing list and on the wiki, and vote later on a couple to write proposals for. I'll soon post the current list of ideas on the wiki (unless someone beats me to it: hint, hint, hint) Who knows, we might get some actual funding to work on these great ideas! So, whether you came to the meeting or not, whether you've been active in the group up until now or not, please feel free to speak up with opinions on the above ideas or your own brand new ideas and let us know what you think. Whatever floats your boat, drop us a note, and then we'll all vote! jpt From jptillman at comcast.net Thu Apr 17 21:24:38 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Damian Conway's Perl Foundation grant Message-ID: <1050632678.6443.3.camel@jacob.home> By the way, it looks like the Perl community got a rather good deal with Damian Conway's grant funding in 2001, despite remarks I made to the contrary at the second PM Tallahassee meeting: http://www.perlfoundation.org/index.cgi?page=damian-case I stand corrected! jpt From marie5150 at fastmail.fm Fri Apr 18 16:13:07 2003 From: marie5150 at fastmail.fm (Marie Duncan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Is this worth considering? Message-ID: <20030418211307.2B65D48D36@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> It looks interesting and since it is sponsered by Perl Mongers it seems like something we might consider attending. http://www.yapc.org/America/ ~marie -- Marie Duncan marie5150@f-m.fm From jptillman at comcast.net Sat Apr 19 11:09:13 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] [Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, April 18] Message-ID: <1050768554.6363.0.camel@jacob.home> -----Forwarded Message----- From: Marsee Henon To: jtillman@bigfoot.com Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, April 18 Date: 18 Apr 2003 11:48:58 -0700 O'Reilly User Group Program Newsletter April 18, 2003 Please share this information with your members... 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Here's how it works. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/04/11/survey.html ================================================ News From Your Peers ================================================ ***SF Java By The Bay Meeting, San Francisco, CA--April 23 Java By The Bay, the Java user group for San Francisco presents Grid Computing: An introduction to Open Grid Services Infrastructure by Sastry Malladi and Creating a Java Development Environment with Open Source Tools and Oracle9i JDeveloper on Linux by Rob Clevenger. Registration and refreshments at 5:30pm and speakers begin at 6 pm. Please RSVP at http://www.vircon.com/events/javabythebay.htm Wednesday April 23, 2003 The Commonwealth Club 595 Market Street, San Francisco, CA ***MD25MD: Celebrating Twenty-Five Years of The Maryland Apple Corps, Baltimore, MD--June 1 The Maryland Apple Corps, in cooperation with The Mid-Atlantic Macintosh User Groups Team celebrates twenty-five years as the Greater Baltimore area's Apple/Macintosh Users Group! Very special keynote address by Steve Wozniak, Apple Co-Founder/Technology & Industry Innovator with special guests: Chuck Joiner (Apple User Group Advisory Board Chairman/Hershey Apple Core President), Dave Marra (Apple K-12 Senior Systems Engineer/User Group Guru), Daniel M. East (Mid-Atlantic Macintosh User Groups Team President), Victor Nazarian (Technologies Expert/Consultant/Maryland Apple Corps Member), Fred Showker (Association of Apple Computer Users & Groups Editor/User Group Network President), Gail Murphy Glore (WiredWomen Founder/Apple Consultants Network Member/Fmr. User Group Advisory Board), and others. June 1, 2:00pm, Baltimore Hebrew Congregation 7401 Park Heights Avenue Baltimore, MD 21208-5490 *event location subject to change based on capacity. http://www.mamugs.org/md25md/ Until next time-- Marsee From mexnix at craonline.org Sun Apr 20 07:14:29 2003 From: mexnix at craonline.org (Ryan Carmelo Briones) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Is this worth considering? References: <20030418211307.2B65D48D36@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <000401c30736$65c3b920$ea289541@mexnix> i've been waiting 3 years to go to YAPC, and since it's in Boca this year, i'm not missing it. it's $85 well spent on some of the best Perl minds in the country. even damian will be there. ------------------------------- ryan carmelo briones e: mexnix@craonline.org w: http://www.mexnix.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Duncan" To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Is this worth considering? > It looks interesting and since it is sponsered by Perl Mongers it seems > like something we might consider attending. > > http://www.yapc.org/America/ > > ~marie > > -- > Marie Duncan > marie5150@f-m.fm > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > From jptillman at comcast.net Tue Apr 29 09:20:40 2003 From: jptillman at comcast.net (James Tillman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Message-ID: <1051626040.2612.24.camel@jacob.home> Ooookay, well nobody has said anything about the Perl Foundation project proposal idea. I can only guess that either no one's got time or no one's interested. If I'm wrong, and you _are_ interested, then please vote for your 2 favorite ideas of those already presented. If we get at least 2 voting members besides me, we can pick the top ones and, if necessary, take a final vote. jpt From marie5150 at fastmail.fm Tue Apr 29 21:30:38 2003 From: marie5150 at fastmail.fm (Marie Duncan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? In-Reply-To: <1051626040.2612.24.camel@jacob.home> References: <1051626040.2612.24.camel@jacob.home> Message-ID: <20030430023038.9D984523EB@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> I'm game for any project the group undertakes, but I'm hesitant to actually place a "vote" since I won't be able to contribute much. ~marie ----- Original message ----- From: "James Tillman" To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:20:40 -0400 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Ooookay, well nobody has said anything about the Perl Foundation project proposal idea. I can only guess that either no one's got time or no one's interested. If I'm wrong, and you _are_ interested, then please vote for your 2 favorite ideas of those already presented. If we get at least 2 voting members besides me, we can pick the top ones and, if necessary, take a final vote. jpt _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm -- Marie Duncan marie5150@f-m.fm From ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Apr 30 05:10:36 2003 From: ToddCushard at fdle.state.fl.us (Cushard, Todd) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB4C53B1@exchange.fdle.gov> Can you restate the 2 ideas already presented? -----Original Message----- From: James Tillman [mailto:jptillman@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:21 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Ooookay, well nobody has said anything about the Perl Foundation project proposal idea. I can only guess that either no one's got time or no one's interested. If I'm wrong, and you _are_ interested, then please vote for your 2 favorite ideas of those already presented. If we get at least 2 voting members besides me, we can pick the top ones and, if necessary, take a final vote. jpt _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Apr 30 07:24:46 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C0089D@exchange.fdle.gov> Here's an excerpt from my previous message: ***SNIP*** Talk mainly centered on projects that I've started in the past, but which have fallen by the wayside due to lack of time and resources, but which could be picked up and continued if we wished: * Guido: http://guido.sf.net/ * paix: http://sf.net/projects/paix/ * CodeBank: http://codebank.sf.net/ But another idea for an implementation of Java's Ant for Perl came up, as well. I made it clear that my ideas should not be the only ones we consider and that we should all put our thinking caps on. We decided to hash out our ideas on the mailing list and on the wiki, and vote later on a couple to write proposals for. I'll soon post the current list of ideas on the wiki (unless someone beats me to it: hint, hint, hint) Who knows, we might get some actual funding to work on these great ideas! ***SNIP*** I hadn't intended on hyping my own stuff so much, but I did forget to mention one other project I had going a while back called DBSchema: http://sf.net/projects/dbschema/. It's intended to be an RDBMS-independent schema translator that would allow you to persist a DB schema (tables/relations/foreign and primary keys) to an xml file and even move it to an entirely different RDBMS (Oracle to Postgres, for example). It currently works with SQL Server and Oracle, but it needs a lot of work (and postgres/mysql support!). Scott Keller also proposed another idea that involved visually creating data transformation pipelines that mapped data fields from one data set (RDBMS data or XML or what-have-you) to another data set, with transforms in the middle, if needed. He mentioned having seen something similar in Microsoft's BizTalk server. It sounded neat. Perhaps he'll speak up and describe his thoughts in his own words? Other ideas? We should really bring the brainstorming to a close this week and make a decision, or we'll might miss whatever deadline there is for the Perl Foundation's application process (they don't have one posted, but you know there's gotta be one). jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Cushard, Todd > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 6:11 AM > To: 'James Tillman'; tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: RE: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? > > > Can you restate the 2 ideas already presented? > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Tillman [mailto:jptillman@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:21 AM > To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? > > > Ooookay, well nobody has said anything about the Perl > Foundation project > proposal idea. I can only guess that either no one's got time or no > one's interested. If I'm wrong, and you _are_ interested, then please > vote for your 2 favorite ideas of those already presented. > > If we get at least 2 voting members besides me, we can pick > the top ones > and, if necessary, take a final vote. > > jpt > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > From ScottKeller at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Apr 30 07:26:08 2003 From: ScottKeller at fdle.state.fl.us (Keller, Scott) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB0437563C@exchange.fdle.gov> I actually had two other ideas, though I haven't fleshed them out a lot. _________________________ 1) It seems in most programming that we do, we are confronted with many different data sources and find the need to map one to the other. With XML, we have a language to communicate between these sources; however, the actual mapping work is often tedious and involves the need to clean data (e.g. date formats) and do other things, such as code translations. What I propose is a type of module that would assist programmers in mapping data by keeping track of: a) which elements from which data sources are similar b) which functions are used when doing the mapping c) field level documentation I haven't really fleshed out this idea. I probably need to do use cases, etc., to figure out that you still have to do the same amount of work and another module might just add overhead. _________________________ 2) Probably a more reasonable idea is to create a module that would take Excel (and perhaps other) spreadsheets and implement functions. I've seen a couple of attempts on CPAN, but they don't look like they work very well. I realize this would be dealing with the "M" word, but I also think there is an awful lot of synergy available if there was a robust, easy to use module that would interface with Excel. __________________________ What do y'all think? I already don't like the data mapping one, since it is so far reaching in scope and so nebulous in its goals. The Excel one, though, would be a very manageable size and I would use it if it existed. Scott -----Original Message----- From: James Tillman [mailto:jptillman@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:21 AM To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Ooookay, well nobody has said anything about the Perl Foundation project proposal idea. I can only guess that either no one's got time or no one's interested. If I'm wrong, and you _are_ interested, then please vote for your 2 favorite ideas of those already presented. If we get at least 2 voting members besides me, we can pick the top ones and, if necessary, take a final vote. jpt _______________________________________________ Tallahassee-pm mailing list Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm From JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us Wed Apr 30 07:42:54 2003 From: JamesTillman at fdle.state.fl.us (Tillman, James) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:37:58 2004 Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? Message-ID: <2265699E79C5D51197940002B31B4EDB06C0089E@exchange.fdle.gov> Marie: I respect your ability to assess your own availability (more so because I lack that skill!), but even the mere act of voting will be a contribution. There are myriad ways to contribute to a software project, only one of which is coding. Please don't hold out on us. Let us know what you think. It matters. jpt > -----Original Message----- > From: Marie Duncan [mailto:marie5150@fastmail.fm] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:31 PM > To: Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? > > > I'm game for any project the group undertakes, but I'm hesitant to > actually place a "vote" since I won't be able to contribute > much. ~marie > > > ----- Original message ----- > From: "James Tillman" > To: tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:20:40 -0400 > Subject: [Tallahassee-pm] Project for Perl Foundation proposal? > > Ooookay, well nobody has said anything about the Perl > Foundation project > proposal idea. I can only guess that either no one's got time or no > one's interested. If I'm wrong, and you _are_ interested, then please > vote for your 2 favorite ideas of those already presented. > > If we get at least 2 voting members besides me, we can pick > the top ones > and, if necessary, take a final vote. > > jpt > > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm > > -- > Marie Duncan > marie5150@f-m.fm > _______________________________________________ > Tallahassee-pm mailing list > Tallahassee-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tallahassee-pm >