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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I was so sorry to not have attended this meeting. I was especially interested considering I've setup our own "Class" implementation that has solved many
problems where I work. I was interested in the Moose interface and I am pretty excited after what I have seen going through the presentation. After discussing this with my team I decided to go to the next step and try it. Uhhh, that didn't work so well.
It was installing many many (did I say many) modules many of them seemed to fail to install or required versions of modules that are not even available. Anybody else using Win32 Activestate version 5.8.8 that could not get this to work? I didn't see any
requirements indicating that it would not. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com@pm.org [mailto:spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com@pm.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Doug Treder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2008 Jul 16 10:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> spug-list@pm.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> stevan.little@iinteractive.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> SPUG: Moose talk slides online<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">thanks for attending my talk on Moose last night at the Seattle Perl Users Group. It was great to have so many smart people together to discuss
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">The slides are online and released CC on my website:
<a href="http://www.dynamicacademy.net">http://www.dynamicacademy.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">There's PDF and HTML versions available - if you would like the Keynote originals, let me know separately and I'll send you the most up-to-date
version.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Moose is under very active development by several fabulous developers, so bugs are fixed quickly, new features are still being added, and discussion
is welcome. I'd highly recommend subscribing to <a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.moose">
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.moose</a> today. They also welcome questions and design suggestions, and it's a really friendly group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">If' you'd like to keep reading and learning about Moose and metaclass theory (after joining the newsgroup), the last few slides have links for additional
reading, which I'll repeat here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Moose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose.pm">http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose.pm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Class::MOP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-MOP/lib/Class/MOP.pm">http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-MOP/lib/Class/MOP.pm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Cookbook WTF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose/Cookbook/WTF.pod">http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose/Cookbook/WTF.pod</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Cookbook FAQ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose/Cookbook/FAQ.pod">http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose/Cookbook/FAQ.pod</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">More theory:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Super and Inner (Method Modifiers)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/publications/oopsla04-gff.pdf">http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/publications/oopsla04-gff.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Putting Metaclasses to Work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Putting-Metaclasses-Work-Ira-Forman/dp/0201433052">http://www.amazon.com/Putting-Metaclasses-Work-Ira-Forman/dp/0201433052</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Uniform Metaclass Composition<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Papers/Duca05ySafeMetaclassTrait.pdf">http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Papers/Duca05ySafeMetaclassTrait.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Safe Metaclass Programming<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/37617.html">http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/37617.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">More Moose Articles and Presentations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.iinteractive.com/moose/">http://www.iinteractive.com/moose/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Moose As Necessary Dependency<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://blog.jrock.us/articles/Myth:%20Moose%20is%20an%20unnecessary%20dependency.pod">http://blog.jrock.us/articles/Myth:%20Moose%20is%20an%20unnecessary%20dependency.pod</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Writing Read-Eval-Print Loop(Moose Tutorial)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://chainsawblues.vox.com/library/post/a-perl-read-excute-print-loop-repl.html">http://chainsawblues.vox.com/library/post/a-perl-read-excute-print-loop-repl.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Moose Extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/search?query=MooseX&mode=all">http://search.cpan.org/search?query=MooseX&mode=all</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">MooseX::Getopt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Getopt/lib/MooseX/Getopt.pm">http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Getopt/lib/MooseX/Getopt.pm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">MooseX::Params::Validate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Params-Validate/">http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Params-Validate/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">MooseX::StrictConstructor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-StrictConstructor/">http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-StrictConstructor/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">MooseX::Storage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Storage/">http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Storage/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Thanks also to Marchex for hosting and the snacks! It's a great location for getting together.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Doug Treder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://dynamicacademy.net">http://dynamicacademy.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://imdb.com">http://imdb.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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