SPUG: Too ignorant to know what to ask
timm at gleason.to
Mon Feb 25 07:08:27 PST 2013
Since it is related to work, I'll give you a pass. But seriously, I was
going to have to petition the board to revoke your nerd card.
However, that being said, have you looked into Word Web from M$?
Not sure how this works into your [redacted] web platform, but some others
have been looking into this as well.
People talk peace. But men give their life's work to war. It won't
stop 'til there is as much brains and scientific study put to aid
peace as there is to promote war. - Will Rogers
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Andrew Sweger <andrew at sweger.net> wrote:
> Howdy folks,
> I need to compose a question but I don't know enough about the subject
> matter to even know what to ask (or even of whom to ask it). I'm turning
> to you, my most trusted local source of technical knowledge, in the hope
> that I can get myself pointed in the right direction or make connections
> with the right people. As the subject is not really Perl-related, feel
> free to ignore this or respond privately (no need to turn this into an
> off-topic discussion). My apologies in advance if I have committed a
> significant faux pas in your view.
> I presently work at a small company that makes and services a web
> application implemented in the [redacted] language. It's a perfect fit for
> me because I know a little [redacted]. It's why I joined this group. I
> want to improve our product by making it easier for my customers to use
> it. One of the things my customers like to do is manage and revise MS Word
> documents within this web application. The documents are held "inside" the
> web application. Normally, to edit one of these documents, one would
> download the file from the web server (over SSL) where it would then be
> saved somewhere on one's computer. One would then locate and open said
> document, making the little changes that one desires, and then saving that
> back to disk. Then one would go back to the web application, tell it you
> want to upload the revised document, click a button, navigate to the
> file's location, select it, and tell the web application to upload it. But
> many of my customers complain that this is a cumbersome process and prone
> to error (and the ones that don't complain just stare and blink at the
> Upload/Download buttons). So, I want to give my customers a thing (let's
> call it a web browser plug-in) they can install that would show them an
> icon of their document right on the web page. They could double-click on
> the icon and, as if by magic, the document would open in their application
> of choice (i.e., MS Word). When they were done making changes and quit the
> application, the document would again, as if by magic, be transported back
> to the web server and safely stored in the "cloud". The "magic" of course
> is just the plug-in quietly downloading the document in the background,
> telling the operating system to open the document in whatever application
> is registered for that type, monitoring the file to see when it's been
> modified/closed, and then uploading the document back to the web server
> (all over SSL).
> Is this even possible? Why, yes! Yes, it is. I heard of a legend of such a
> thing that was installed as an IE Active X control that could be invoked
> by an <object> on a page and it could interact with the web page through
> control after all). It's all true, I swear. But I can't find it. I also
> heard it was written in VB (not even VB.Net) and doesn't play well with
> modern versions of IE or Windows (and has to be installed with local
> administration privileges).
> (Please note that SMB, CIFS, FTP, SFTP, SCP, NFS, AFS, BFP, ACKTHPPPT, and
> WEBDAV have all been ruled out as either not supporting encryption,
> involving more software to install, configure, and operate separately, or
> requiring yet another authentication silo.)
> So, now I'm trying to hire someone to make one of these things. But I want
> it to work with IE 7 through at least IE 10 (desktop mode on Windows 8,
> obviously). And I want it to work with Chrome. And Firefox. And maybe even
> Safari (but maybe not). When I'm feeling particularly ambitious, I want it
> to work with browsers on Mac OS X and even Linux (maybe using the
> Firebreath framework). And I want the whole (Windows version) thing
> wrapped up in an MSI installer package that can be installed by non-admin
> users (in local user data) and that supports customization with MSTs by
> enterprises that like to control every last bit of their employee's
> computer use (with group policies, ability to install in local user data
> or as a system resource).
> (Note that I barely know what much of that Windows technology really means
> and I've probably used the terms incorrectly.)
> When I go looking for web browser plug-in developers, so far I am only
> finding people (or companies) that write plug-ins that do things strictly
> within the web page, like multi-media, graphics, sound, video, or look up
> the price for something on the page at your favorite other site. I need
> something that can break the security sandbox model (because the customer
> operating system shell.
> Where does one look to find this kind of skill in particular? Does it have
> a special name? What targetted keywords will get me closer to what I need.
> What do I tell the recruiter to look for (they are the ones bringing me
> multi-media hackers)?
> Thanks for your time.
> -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several
> things can go wrong at once.
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