From penglish1 at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 19:59:03 2013 From: penglish1 at gmail.com (Paul English) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:59:03 -0800 Subject: SPUG: Registration open for Cascadia IT Conference 2013 Message-ID: Registration for Cascadia IT Conference 2013 is now open. The early bird discount ends February 28th and we expect some of the more popular tutorials to reach capacity. Register now for the best price and to reserve your spot. http://casitconf.org/casitconf13/register-now/ This year we feature an Intermediate version of last year's popular Beginner Root Cause Analysis hands-on workshop. We've also got some exciting tutorials from our keynote speaker David N. Blank-Edelman: "Build a Sysadmin Sandbox" and "Over the Edge System Administration." Learn about IPv6, mastering customer service, navigating the business world as a sysadmin or configuration management with Chef or Puppet. And that is just the Tutorials! While we don't have any direct Perl talks this year, what sysadmin doesn't work with perl? Lightning talks submitted on Saturday are welcome and please ponder what Perl talk you might want to submit next year. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at sweger.net Thu Feb 21 14:27:48 2013 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:27:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: SPUG: Too ignorant to know what to ask Message-ID: Howdy folks, I need to compose a question but I don't know enough about the subject matter to even know what to ask (or even of whom to ask it). I'm turning to you, my most trusted local source of technical knowledge, in the hope that I can get myself pointed in the right direction or make connections with the right people. As the subject is not really Perl-related, feel free to ignore this or respond privately (no need to turn this into an off-topic discussion). My apologies in advance if I have committed a significant faux pas in your view. I presently work at a small company that makes and services a web application implemented in the [redacted] language. It's a perfect fit for me because I know a little [redacted]. It's why I joined this group. I want to improve our product by making it easier for my customers to use it. One of the things my customers like to do is manage and revise MS Word documents within this web application. The documents are held "inside" the web application. Normally, to edit one of these documents, one would download the file from the web server (over SSL) where it would then be saved somewhere on one's computer. One would then locate and open said document, making the little changes that one desires, and then saving that back to disk. Then one would go back to the web application, tell it you want to upload the revised document, click a button, navigate to the file's location, select it, and tell the web application to upload it. But many of my customers complain that this is a cumbersome process and prone to error (and the ones that don't complain just stare and blink at the Upload/Download buttons). So, I want to give my customers a thing (let's call it a web browser plug-in) they can install that would show them an icon of their document right on the web page. They could double-click on the icon and, as if by magic, the document would open in their application of choice (i.e., MS Word). When they were done making changes and quit the application, the document would again, as if by magic, be transported back to the web server and safely stored in the "cloud". The "magic" of course is just the plug-in quietly downloading the document in the background, telling the operating system to open the document in whatever application is registered for that type, monitoring the file to see when it's been modified/closed, and then uploading the document back to the web server (all over SSL). Is this even possible? Why, yes! Yes, it is. I heard of a legend of such a thing that was installed as an IE Active X control that could be invoked by an on a page and it could interact with the web page through JavaScript events. It was called a DropTarget (it was a drag-and-drop control after all). It's all true, I swear. But I can't find it. I also heard it was written in VB (not even VB.Net) and doesn't play well with modern versions of IE or Windows (and has to be installed with local administration privileges). (Please note that SMB, CIFS, FTP, SFTP, SCP, NFS, AFS, BFP, ACKTHPPPT, and WEBDAV have all been ruled out as either not supporting encryption, involving more software to install, configure, and operate separately, or requiring yet another authentication silo.) So, now I'm trying to hire someone to make one of these things. But I want it to work with IE 7 through at least IE 10 (desktop mode on Windows 8, obviously). And I want it to work with Chrome. And Firefox. And maybe even Safari (but maybe not). When I'm feeling particularly ambitious, I want it to work with browsers on Mac OS X and even Linux (maybe using the Firebreath framework). And I want the whole (Windows version) thing wrapped up in an MSI installer package that can be installed by non-admin users (in local user data) and that supports customization with MSTs by enterprises that like to control every last bit of their employee's computer use (with group policies, ability to install in local user data or as a system resource). (Note that I barely know what much of that Windows technology really means and I've probably used the terms incorrectly.) When I go looking for web browser plug-in developers, so far I am only finding people (or companies) that write plug-ins that do things strictly within the web page, like multi-media, graphics, sound, video, or look up the price for something on the page at your favorite other site. I need something that can break the security sandbox model (because the customer wants it that way) bridging the gap between the DOM, JavaScript, and the operating system shell. Where does one look to find this kind of skill in particular? Does it have a special name? What targetted keywords will get me closer to what I need. What do I tell the recruiter to look for (they are the ones bringing me multi-media hackers)? Thanks for your time. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From atom.powers at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 14:47:29 2013 From: atom.powers at gmail.com (Atom Powers) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:47:29 -0800 Subject: SPUG: Too ignorant to know what to ask In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > I need to compose a question but I don't know enough about the subject > matter to even know what to ask (or even of whom to ask it). I'm turning > to you, my most trusted local source of technical knowledge, in the hope > that I can get myself pointed in the right direction or make connections > with the right people. As the subject is not really Perl-related, feel > free to ignore this or respond privately (no need to turn this into an > off-topic discussion). For non-perl related questions the LOPSA (lopsa.org) group might be a better resource for you. LOPSA has a local chapter called SASAG (sasag.org). LOPSA is a world-wide group that would be a great resource for this kind of question. >So, I want to give my customers a thing (let's > call it a web browser plug-in) they can install that would show them an > icon of their document right on the web page. They could double-click on > the icon and, as if by magic, the document would open in their application > of choice (i.e., MS Word). When they were done making changes and quit the > application, the document would again, as if by magic, be transported back > to the web server and safely stored in the "cloud". > (Please note that SMB, CIFS, FTP, SFTP, SCP, NFS, AFS, BFP, ACKTHPPPT, and > WEBDAV have all been ruled out as either not supporting encryption, > involving more software to install, configure, and operate separately, or > requiring yet another authentication silo.) > > I was going to recommend WebDAV, but you seem to have ruled that out already. The only other thing that I can think of that would fit /most/ of your wants would be some kind of VPN, possibly an HTTPS VPN, that would probably implement one of the above protocols inside the web browser. > > When I go looking for web browser plug-in developers, so far I am only > finding people (or companies) that write plug-ins that do things strictly > within the web page, like multi-media, graphics, sound, video, or look up > the price for something on the page at your favorite other site. I need > something that can break the security sandbox model (because the customer > wants it that way) bridging the gap between the DOM, JavaScript, and the > operating system shell. > I would think that breaking the sandbox model would be your biggest hurdle. All modern browsers implement that very strongly for a very good reason. You may end up with a non-browser application that somehow embeds itself into the browser or implements browser-like functionality. > Where does one look to find this kind of skill in particular? Does it have > a special name? What targetted keywords will get me closer to what I need. > What do I tell the recruiter to look for (they are the ones bringing me > multi-media hackers)? > I'm sure some of my colleagues on the LOPSA lists can provide more insight. I would recommend a .NET or Java application developer with web browser development experience. Because of the sandbox model your typical "plugin developer" probably won't know much about interacting with the local or remote file system. -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kesteb at wsipc.org Thu Feb 21 14:57:33 2013 From: kesteb at wsipc.org (Kevin Esteb) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:33 -0800 Subject: SPUG: Too ignorant to know what to ask In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C4D2F304C57FB4EB05DF8A079E1BD26099460B2F1@lan-srv-exch02.wsipc.org> Something like this might work: http://www.kavoir.com/2009/01/using-javascript-to-open-excel-and-word-files-in-html.html Search words: javascript load word document -----Original Message----- From: spug-list [mailto:spug-list-bounces+kesteb=wsipc.org at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sweger Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:28 PM To: SPUG Members Subject: SPUG: Too ignorant to know what to ask Howdy folks, I need to compose a question but I don't know enough about the subject matter to even know what to ask (or even of whom to ask it). I'm turning to you, my most trusted local source of technical knowledge, in the hope that I can get myself pointed in the right direction or make connections with the right people. As the subject is not really Perl-related, feel free to ignore this or respond privately (no need to turn this into an off-topic discussion). My apologies in advance if I have committed a significant faux pas in your view. I presently work at a small company that makes and services a web application implemented in the [redacted] language. It's a perfect fit for me because I know a little [redacted]. It's why I joined this group. I want to improve our product by making it easier for my customers to use it. One of the things my customers like to do is manage and revise MS Word documents within this web application. The documents are held "inside" the web application. Normally, to edit one of these documents, one would download the file from the web server (over SSL) where it would then be saved somewhere on one's computer. One would then locate and open said document, making the little changes that one desires, and then saving that back to disk. Then one would go back to the web application, tell it you want to upload the revised document, click a button, navigate to the file's location, select it, and tell the web application to upload it. But many of my customers complain that this is a cumbersome process and prone to error (and the ones that don't complain just stare and blink at the Upload/Download buttons). So, I want to give my customers a thing (let's call it a web browser plug-in) they can install that would show them an icon of their document right on the web page. They could double-click on the icon and, as if by magic, the document would open in their application of choice (i.e., MS Word). When they were done making changes and quit the application, the document would again, as if by magic, be transported back to the web server and safely stored in the "cloud". The "magic" of course is just the plug-in quietly downloading the document in the background, telling the operating system to open the document in whatever application is registered for that type, monitoring the file to see when it's been modified/closed, and then uploading the document back to the web server (all over SSL). Is this even possible? Why, yes! Yes, it is. I heard of a legend of such a thing that was installed as an IE Active X control that could be invoked by an on a page and it could interact with the web page through JavaScript events. It was called a DropTarget (it was a drag-and-drop control after all). It's all true, I swear. But I can't find it. I also heard it was written in VB (not even VB.Net) and doesn't play well with modern versions of IE or Windows (and has to be installed with local administration privileges). (Please note that SMB, CIFS, FTP, SFTP, SCP, NFS, AFS, BFP, ACKTHPPPT, and WEBDAV have all been ruled out as either not supporting encryption, involving more software to install, configure, and operate separately, or requiring yet another authentication silo.) So, now I'm trying to hire someone to make one of these things. But I want it to work with IE 7 through at least IE 10 (desktop mode on Windows 8, obviously). And I want it to work with Chrome. And Firefox. And maybe even Safari (but maybe not). When I'm feeling particularly ambitious, I want it to work with browsers on Mac OS X and even Linux (maybe using the Firebreath framework). And I want the whole (Windows version) thing wrapped up in an MSI installer package that can be installed by non-admin users (in local user data) and that supports customization with MSTs by enterprises that like to control every last bit of their employee's computer use (with group policies, ability to install in local user data or as a system resource). (Note that I barely know what much of that Windows technology really means and I've probably used the terms incorrectly.) When I go looking for web browser plug-in developers, so far I am only finding people (or companies) that write plug-ins that do things strictly within the web page, like multi-media, graphics, sound, video, or look up the price for something on the page at your favorite other site. I need something that can break the security sandbox model (because the customer wants it that way) bridging the gap between the DOM, JavaScript, and the operating system shell. Where does one look to find this kind of skill in particular? Does it have a special name? What targetted keywords will get me closer to what I need. What do I tell the recruiter to look for (they are the ones bringing me multi-media hackers)? Thanks for your time. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. _____________________________________________________________ Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List POST TO: spug-list at pm.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ From wildwood_players at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 10:07:23 2013 From: wildwood_players at yahoo.com (Richard Wood) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:07:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: SPUG: Archive::Zip:Member::_unixToDosTime problem Message-ID: <1361556443.10194.YahooMailNeo@web160502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi SPUG, ? I am using Archive::Zip to create a MS WORD docx archive on win7 running ActivePerl Build 822 [280952]. It works mostly, but I think it is having problems with files that contain multiple full stops. ? Example: word/_rels/document.xml.rels ? The docx file is created, and I can even open it (sometimes with errors) which I suspect might be related to the complaining that Archive::Zip::Member::_unixToDosTime is doing about the one file that has a funny name (at least for WIN). ? The code isn't much: ? sub zip_docx { ??? $zip = Archive::Zip->new(); ??? $zip->addTree('.'); ??? $zipname = "$id".".docx"; ??? print STDERR "trying to create $zipname\n"; ??? $return = $zip->writeToFileNamed($zipname); ??? if ($return ne AZ_OK) { ?????????print STDERR "Error creating $zipname rc: $return dollar_bang:$! :\n"; ??? } ??? else { ?????????print STDOUT "$zipname created\n"; ??? } } ? Here are the errors: ? C:\Users\nm040a\Desktop\FlatCQ>perl -w ../myperl/ddps/write_word.pl short.xml IO error: Unsupported date before 1980 encountered, moving to 1980 : at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Member.pm line 491 ??????? Archive::Zip::Member::_unixToDosTime(315561600) called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Member.pm line 180 ??????? Archive::Zip::Member::setLastModFileDateTimeFromUnix('Archive::Zip::NewFileMember=HASH(0x38913b4)', 315561600) called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/NewFileMember.pm line 36 ??????? Archive::Zip::NewFileMember::_newFromFileNamed('Archive::Zip::NewFileMember', './word/_rels/document.xml.rels', 'word/_rels/document.xml.rels') called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Member.pm line 54 ??????? Archive::Zip::Member::newFromFile('Archive::Zip::Member', './word/_rels/document.xml.rels', 'word/_rels/document.xml.rels') called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 202 ??????? Archive::Zip::Archive::addFile('Archive::Zip::Archive=HASH(0x386316c)','./word/_rels/document.xml.rels', 'word/_rels/document.xml.rels') called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 607 ??????? Archive::Zip::Archive::addTree('Archive::Zip::Archive=HASH(0x386316c)',.) called at ../myperl/ddps/write_word.pl line 476 ??????? main::zip_docx() called at ../myperl/ddps/write_word.pl line 126 trying to create cms00002173.docx Error creating cms00002173.docx rc: 0 dollar_bang: : ? The direcory structure of the folder is this: ? _rels ????.rels docProps ????app.xml ????core.xml word ????_rels ????????document.xml.rels ????theme ????theme1.xml ????document.xml ????fronTable.xml ????settings.xml ????styles.xml ????webSettings.xml Regards, Rich Wood? Richard O. Wood Wildwood IT Consultants, Inc. wildwood_players at yahoo.com 425.281.1914 mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wildwood_players at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 13:43:41 2013 From: wildwood_players at yahoo.com (Richard Wood) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:43:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: SPUG: Archive::Zip:Member::_unixToDosTime problem In-Reply-To: <1361556443.10194.YahooMailNeo@web160502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1361556443.10194.YahooMailNeo@web160502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1361569421.84714.YahooMailNeo@web160503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Ansering my own question I guess. ? I can't explain it but I reformatted the file that was getting complaints to break up the XML so that there was one tag per line and for some reason, that got rid of the error. Maybe it was because the internal date was messed up and modifying it corrected it. Problem solved. ? Sorry to have sent up a signal because of a corrupt file. ? Regards, ? Rich Wood Richard O. Wood Wildwood IT Consultants, Inc. wildwood_players at yahoo.com 425.281.1914 mobile ________________________________ From: Richard Wood To: "spug-list at pm.org" Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: SPUG: Archive::Zip:Member::_unixToDosTime problem Hi SPUG, ? I am using Archive::Zip to create a MS WORD docx archive on win7 running ActivePerl Build 822 [280952]. It works mostly, but I think it is having problems with files that contain multiple full stops. Example: word/_rels/document.xml.rels The docx file is created, and I can even open it (sometimes with errors) which I suspect might be related to the complaining that Archive::Zip::Member::_unixToDosTime is doing about the one file that has a funny name (at least for WIN). ? The code isn't much: ? sub zip_docx { ??? $zip = Archive::Zip->new(); ??? $zip->addTree('.'); ??? $zipname = "$id".".docx"; ??? print STDERR "trying to create $zipname\n"; ??? $return = $zip->writeToFileNamed($zipname); ??? if ($return ne AZ_OK) { ?????????print STDERR "Error creating $zipname rc: $return dollar_bang:$! :\n"; ??? } ??? else { ?????????print STDOUT "$zipname created\n"; ??? } } ? Here are the errors: ? C:\Users\nm040a\Desktop\FlatCQ>perl -w ../myperl/ddps/write_word.pl short.xml IO error: Unsupported date before 1980 encountered, moving to 1980 : at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Member.pm line 491 ??????? Archive::Zip::Member::_unixToDosTime(315561600) called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Member.pm line 180 ??????? Archive::Zip::Member::setLastModFileDateTimeFromUnix('Archive::Zip::NewFileMember=HASH(0x38913b4)', 315561600) called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/NewFileMember.pm line 36 ??????? Archive::Zip::NewFileMember::_newFromFileNamed('Archive::Zip::NewFileMember', './word/_rels/document.xml.rels', 'word/_rels/document.xml.rels') called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Member.pm line 54 ??????? Archive::Zip::Member::newFromFile('Archive::Zip::Member', './word/_rels/document.xml.rels', 'word/_rels/document.xml.rels') called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 202 ??????? Archive::Zip::Archive::addFile('Archive::Zip::Archive=HASH(0x386316c)','./word/_rels/document.xml.rels', 'word/_rels/document.xml.rels') called at C:/perl/lib/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 607 ??????? Archive::Zip::Archive::addTree('Archive::Zip::Archive=HASH(0x386316c)',.) called at ../myperl/ddps/write_word.pl line 476 ??????? main::zip_docx() called at ../myperl/ddps/write_word.pl line 126 trying to create cms00002173.docx Error creating cms00002173.docx rc: 0 dollar_bang: : ? The direcory structure of the folder is this: ? _rels ????.rels docProps ????app.xml ????core.xml word ????_rels ????????document.xml.rels ????theme ????theme1.xml ????document.xml ????fronTable.xml ????settings.xml ????styles.xml ????webSettings.xml Regards, Rich Wood? Richard O. Wood Wildwood IT Consultants, Inc. wildwood_players at yahoo.com 425.281.1914 mobile _____________________________________________________________ Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List ? ? POST TO: spug-list at pm.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list ? ? MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays ? ? WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timm at gleason.to Mon Feb 25 07:08:27 2013 From: timm at gleason.to (Timm Gleason) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:08:27 -0800 Subject: SPUG: Too ignorant to know what to ask In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andy, Since it is related to work, I'll give you a pass. But seriously, I was going to have to petition the board to revoke your nerd card. However, that being said, have you looked into Word Web from M$? http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps-help/introduction-to-word-web-app-HA010378341.aspx Not sure how this works into your [redacted] web platform, but some others have been looking into this as well. * http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3808867/editing-word-documents-in-a-web-page * * http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1053042/open-word-document-in-browser-with-inline-editing * Timm Gleason -- People talk peace. But men give their life's work to war. It won't stop 'til there is as much brains and scientific study put to aid peace as there is to promote war. - Will Rogers On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Howdy folks, > > I need to compose a question but I don't know enough about the subject > matter to even know what to ask (or even of whom to ask it). I'm turning > to you, my most trusted local source of technical knowledge, in the hope > that I can get myself pointed in the right direction or make connections > with the right people. As the subject is not really Perl-related, feel > free to ignore this or respond privately (no need to turn this into an > off-topic discussion). My apologies in advance if I have committed a > significant faux pas in your view. > > I presently work at a small company that makes and services a web > application implemented in the [redacted] language. It's a perfect fit for > me because I know a little [redacted]. It's why I joined this group. I > want to improve our product by making it easier for my customers to use > it. One of the things my customers like to do is manage and revise MS Word > documents within this web application. The documents are held "inside" the > web application. Normally, to edit one of these documents, one would > download the file from the web server (over SSL) where it would then be > saved somewhere on one's computer. One would then locate and open said > document, making the little changes that one desires, and then saving that > back to disk. Then one would go back to the web application, tell it you > want to upload the revised document, click a button, navigate to the > file's location, select it, and tell the web application to upload it. But > many of my customers complain that this is a cumbersome process and prone > to error (and the ones that don't complain just stare and blink at the > Upload/Download buttons). So, I want to give my customers a thing (let's > call it a web browser plug-in) they can install that would show them an > icon of their document right on the web page. They could double-click on > the icon and, as if by magic, the document would open in their application > of choice (i.e., MS Word). When they were done making changes and quit the > application, the document would again, as if by magic, be transported back > to the web server and safely stored in the "cloud". The "magic" of course > is just the plug-in quietly downloading the document in the background, > telling the operating system to open the document in whatever application > is registered for that type, monitoring the file to see when it's been > modified/closed, and then uploading the document back to the web server > (all over SSL). > > Is this even possible? Why, yes! Yes, it is. I heard of a legend of such a > thing that was installed as an IE Active X control that could be invoked > by an on a page and it could interact with the web page through > JavaScript events. It was called a DropTarget (it was a drag-and-drop > control after all). It's all true, I swear. But I can't find it. I also > heard it was written in VB (not even VB.Net) and doesn't play well with > modern versions of IE or Windows (and has to be installed with local > administration privileges). > > (Please note that SMB, CIFS, FTP, SFTP, SCP, NFS, AFS, BFP, ACKTHPPPT, and > WEBDAV have all been ruled out as either not supporting encryption, > involving more software to install, configure, and operate separately, or > requiring yet another authentication silo.) > > So, now I'm trying to hire someone to make one of these things. But I want > it to work with IE 7 through at least IE 10 (desktop mode on Windows 8, > obviously). And I want it to work with Chrome. And Firefox. And maybe even > Safari (but maybe not). When I'm feeling particularly ambitious, I want it > to work with browsers on Mac OS X and even Linux (maybe using the > Firebreath framework). And I want the whole (Windows version) thing > wrapped up in an MSI installer package that can be installed by non-admin > users (in local user data) and that supports customization with MSTs by > enterprises that like to control every last bit of their employee's > computer use (with group policies, ability to install in local user data > or as a system resource). > > (Note that I barely know what much of that Windows technology really means > and I've probably used the terms incorrectly.) > > When I go looking for web browser plug-in developers, so far I am only > finding people (or companies) that write plug-ins that do things strictly > within the web page, like multi-media, graphics, sound, video, or look up > the price for something on the page at your favorite other site. I need > something that can break the security sandbox model (because the customer > wants it that way) bridging the gap between the DOM, JavaScript, and the > operating system shell. > > Where does one look to find this kind of skill in particular? Does it have > a special name? What targetted keywords will get me closer to what I need. > What do I tell the recruiter to look for (they are the ones bringing me > multi-media hackers)? > > Thanks for your time. > > -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > things can go wrong at once. > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Having been absent awhile: I was the guy who was just learning Perl and wanted to learn C next, and was hoping to find a job. When I got one I quit showing up for the meetings because I was working a lot. I hear Marchex is looking for a sysadmin and I'm about to apply because the view from the office is spectacular. Other than that, if anybody knows who some good places to work in town are, let me know. Feeling a lot more confident this time. I'll be there in April with some code for you guys to look over. I was almost done with a little thing using WWW::Mechanize::Firefox to automate some tasks with their terrible API-less Rails app they called a ticketing system. I'm sure my approach could have been cleaner, so that'll be nice to get some experienced eyes on. Thanks for everything, Chad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: