From webstermontego at gmail.com  Mon Sep 17 15:23:42 2012
From: webstermontego at gmail.com (Webster)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:42 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Talk Tomorrow?
Message-ID: <02A79FCC-FAC9-47DE-9766-8371BE0812E5@gmail.com>

There were some mentionings of a couple people that might be willing to give a talk tomorrow but I never heard anything definite. Is anyone willing to volunteer for tomorrow?

From daotoad at gmail.com  Mon Sep 17 19:44:15 2012
From: daotoad at gmail.com (Mark Swayne)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:44:15 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Talk Tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <02A79FCC-FAC9-47DE-9766-8371BE0812E5@gmail.com>
References: <02A79FCC-FAC9-47DE-9766-8371BE0812E5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACYbuXTsTqzaNw6G-uah-J-WC2J2H57Ofw6vtd=tfYu2i+6yTg@mail.gmail.com>

I will be giving a talk on my SQL generation library called DBIx::PreQL.

DBIx::PreQL - Less awful SQL generation with templates

Executive Summary:

    Do amazing things with SQL by sprinkling it with 7 characters: & | * #
? ! ~

Summary:

Nearly every programmer will work with relational databases at one time or
another, if not every day.  This means we have to work with SQL, whether we
write our queries by hand or use an abstraction layer to generate them.

No generator is perfect, and sometimes you just have to write SQL to get
the results you need.

DBIx::PreQL defines a small templating language that is designed to make it
easy to manage groups of related, complex queries.

For example, if you have a webpage that sells widgets, you may have a bunch
of nearly identical queries that provide:

* A list of available models of widget
* A count of available models of widget
* A count of widgets available of each type
* The above three queries for discontinued models only.
* The first three queries for currently available models only.

These queries are probably 90% identical, with only minor changes.

DBIx::PreQL addresses this problem by adding simple tags to the beginning
of each line of SQL that are used to determine whether or not a line is
included in the final query.

Here's a typical marked-up query:

*  SELECT
&    count(*) !count!
*    model,
*    name,
&    status   !~status!
*  FROM tbl_widget
*  WHERE
&    status = ?status?
&    AND model = ?model?
&    AND name LIKE ?name?



You can see DBIx::PreQL on github right now:
https://github.com/daotoad/DBIx-PreQL
I will be working like a feverish weasel tonight to get it uploaded to CPAN
before the talk.



On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Webster <webstermontego at gmail.com> wrote:
> There were some mentionings of a couple people that might be willing to
give a talk tomorrow but I never heard anything definite. Is anyone willing
to volunteer for tomorrow?
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From mtshomsky at flowersandrobots.com  Tue Sep 18 18:43:25 2012
From: mtshomsky at flowersandrobots.com (Michael)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:43:25 -0700
Subject: SPUG: spug-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1347994822.16525.spug-list@pm.org>
References: <mailman.25.1347994822.16525.spug-list@pm.org>
Message-ID: <85A47978365D4F5194AB797F8B098F9B@flowersandrobots.com>

Cant make it today. 

-- 
Michael


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> 
> I will be giving a talk on my SQL generation library called DBIx::PreQL.
> 
> DBIx::PreQL - Less awful SQL generation with templates
> 
> Executive Summary:
> 
> Do amazing things with SQL by sprinkling it with 7 characters: & | * #
> ? ! ~
> 
> Summary:
> 
> Nearly every programmer will work with relational databases at one time or
> another, if not every day. This means we have to work with SQL, whether we
> write our queries by hand or use an abstraction layer to generate them.
> 
> No generator is perfect, and sometimes you just have to write SQL to get
> the results you need.
> 
> DBIx::PreQL defines a small templating language that is designed to make it
> easy to manage groups of related, complex queries.
> 
> For example, if you have a webpage that sells widgets, you may have a bunch
> of nearly identical queries that provide:
> 
> * A list of available models of widget
> * A count of available models of widget
> * A count of widgets available of each type
> * The above three queries for discontinued models only.
> * The first three queries for currently available models only.
> 
> These queries are probably 90% identical, with only minor changes.
> 
> DBIx::PreQL addresses this problem by adding simple tags to the beginning
> of each line of SQL that are used to determine whether or not a line is
> included in the final query.
> 
> Here's a typical marked-up query:
> 
> * SELECT
> & count(*) !count!
> * model,
> * name,
> & status !~status!
> * FROM tbl_widget
> * WHERE
> & status = ?status?
> & AND model = ?model?
> & AND name LIKE ?name?
> 
> 
> 
> You can see DBIx::PreQL on github right now:
> https://github.com/daotoad/DBIx-PreQL
> I will be working like a feverish weasel tonight to get it uploaded to CPAN
> before the talk.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Webster <webstermontego at gmail.com> wrote:
> > There were some mentionings of a couple people that might be willing to
> 
> give a talk tomorrow but I never heard anything definite. Is anyone willing
> to volunteer for tomorrow?
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From cxreg at pobox.com  Tue Sep 18 19:19:42 2012
From: cxreg at pobox.com (cxreg at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:19:42 -0700
Subject: SPUG: spug-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1
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From chad.cassady at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 14:01:03 2012
From: chad.cassady at gmail.com (Chad Cassady)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:01:03 -0700
Subject: SPUG: self-study recommendations?
Message-ID: <505A328F.10506@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Had a lovely time at last night's meeting, the talk was informative and 
everybody was very nice to the new guy. There was also free cola and an 
excellent view.

I have a question:

Perl is my first language, and I started learning it September 1st. I'm 
working through the O'Reilly book /Learning Perl. /I just got done with 
Chapter 8, so I've (hopefully) learned the syntax of perl, how to work 
with loops and subroutines, hashes, arrays, and scalars, and some 
idioms/shortcuts. Chapters 7 and 8 were devoted to regular expressions. 
There's one more chapter playing with regexes, then some more control 
structures (some of which I've already dabbled with after cruising the 
documentation) and the rest seems to deal with having perl do things to 
the system - file, directory, and process operations (in conjunction 
with more pattern matching to make it more powerful).

My question is, where do I go after /Learning Perl/, and more 
importantly, at what point do I start telling prospective employers that 
I am competent with perl? I need a rubric. My current plan is just to go 
through /Intermediate Perl/ and then write something cool.

If anybody wants to look at my perl landing maneuvers and offer 
constructive criticism, I'm on github.com/beatboxchad. Don't go easy. 
I'm a quick study. No pain, no gain, right?

Thanks,

Chad
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From baronmog at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 16:01:54 2012
From: baronmog at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Noah_R=C3=B8mer?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:01:54 -0700
Subject: SPUG: self-study recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <505A328F.10506@gmail.com>
References: <505A328F.10506@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+7fRCxi9KNXZC7mYRNUKZnqD+JheiD22tO3NHqVr-Usq1A81w@mail.gmail.com>

I would definitely recommend _Modern Perl_ (available for free as an
ebook, or for $ as a printed book). Also useful is Perl Best
Practices, though it's becoming a little long in the tooth.
-- 
It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends on him not understanding it.

- Upton Sinclair

From tsibley at cpan.org  Thu Sep 20 20:43:41 2012
From: tsibley at cpan.org (Thomas Sibley)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:43:41 -0700
Subject: SPUG: self-study recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <505A328F.10506@gmail.com>
References: <505A328F.10506@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <505BE26D.7040307@cpan.org>

On 09/19/2012 02:01 PM, Chad Cassady wrote:
> Perl is my first language, and I started learning it September 1st.

Welcome!  Perl is a great first language.

> My question is, where do I go after /Learning Perl/, and more
> importantly, at what point do I start telling prospective employers that
> I am competent with perl? I need a rubric. My current plan is just to go
> through /Intermediate Perl/ and then write something cool.

/Modern Perl/ is a very good suggestion from Noah.

Just a start at what to dig into next:

* CPAN: http://metacpan.org and http://search.cpan.org
* cpanm: using CPAN
* Moose: (post)modern object system

Does /Learning Perl/ cover objects?  If not, Intermediate should.  It's
certainly worth grokking classic (non-Moose) objects in Perl.

* http://www.perl.org/learn.html
* perlbrew: staying up to date with new Perl releases
* perldoc + Pod::Cpandoc for seamless reading of module doc you don't
have installed (yet!)

Hopefully that helps point you in the next direction a bit.  Scratching
an itch (aka writing something cool ;-) is often a good way to explore a
language and tends to find more motivation than, say, trolling the bug
tracker for random bugs to fix.

Cheers,
Thomas

From chad.cassady at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 20:54:37 2012
From: chad.cassady at gmail.com (Chad Cassady)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:54:37 -0700
Subject: SPUG: self-study recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <505BE26D.7040307@cpan.org>
References: <505A328F.10506@gmail.com> <505BE26D.7040307@cpan.org>
Message-ID: <505BE4FD.9010406@gmail.com>

Thanks guys. This rocks.

Chad

On 09/20/2012 08:43 PM, Thomas Sibley wrote:
> On 09/19/2012 02:01 PM, Chad Cassady wrote:
>> Perl is my first language, and I started learning it September 1st.
> Welcome!  Perl is a great first language.
>
>> My question is, where do I go after /Learning Perl/, and more
>> importantly, at what point do I start telling prospective employers that
>> I am competent with perl? I need a rubric. My current plan is just to go
>> through /Intermediate Perl/ and then write something cool.
> /Modern Perl/ is a very good suggestion from Noah.
>
> Just a start at what to dig into next:
>
> * CPAN: http://metacpan.org and http://search.cpan.org
> * cpanm: using CPAN
> * Moose: (post)modern object system
>
> Does /Learning Perl/ cover objects?  If not, Intermediate should.  It's
> certainly worth grokking classic (non-Moose) objects in Perl.
>
> * http://www.perl.org/learn.html
> * perlbrew: staying up to date with new Perl releases
> * perldoc + Pod::Cpandoc for seamless reading of module doc you don't
> have installed (yet!)
>
> Hopefully that helps point you in the next direction a bit.  Scratching
> an itch (aka writing something cool ;-) is often a good way to explore a
> language and tends to find more motivation than, say, trolling the bug
> tracker for random bugs to fix.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
> _____________________________________________________________
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From cjac at colliertech.org  Wed Sep 26 19:22:09 2012
From: cjac at colliertech.org (C.J. Adams-Collier)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:22:09 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Party with the CIA, see?
Message-ID: <CAJj0Out=MnpTjbpmf8ihvm-whs9dsXfFekXx8W8HFxyM+Xe9Kw@mail.gmail.com>

http://blogs.uw.edu/ciacsec/2012/09/07/november-5-9-2012-certified-ethical-hacker-class/
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From dantaylor08 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 21:32:55 2012
From: dantaylor08 at gmail.com (Daniel Taylor)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:32:55 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Party with the CIA, see?
In-Reply-To: <CAJj0Out=MnpTjbpmf8ihvm-whs9dsXfFekXx8W8HFxyM+Xe9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJj0Out=MnpTjbpmf8ihvm-whs9dsXfFekXx8W8HFxyM+Xe9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPxcuLoawOGdHwOjzJ0hcint7nKQLOs_fkT64-xPqoVNvMF9dg@mail.gmail.com>

Just trying to figure out how to justify this as a 'training' expense.

Daniel

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:22 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier
<cjac at colliertech.org> wrote:
> http://blogs.uw.edu/ciacsec/2012/09/07/november-5-9-2012-certified-ethical-hacker-class/
>
>
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