From cmeyer at helvella.org Fri Jul 2 11:38:12 2010 From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:38:12 -0700 Subject: SPUG: July SPUG? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be very glad to hear either Josh or CJ speak on something Perl related. -Colin. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > Hi, > What's up for July? Are people tired of hearing me blather on? Did we > ever hear from CJ and his DNS editor of awesome? I gave an updated > version of my Memory Efficient Perl talk. The slides for YAPC have > more content you didn't previously see: http://bit.ly/9RHs8h > > Josh > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.mertel at yahoo.com Tue Jul 6 19:18:27 2010 From: mark.mertel at yahoo.com (Mark Mertel) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:18:27 -0700 Subject: SPUG: perl version Message-ID: <4C33E3F3.5020001@yahoo.com> Working on a system that is using 5.8.8 and am wondering about lobbying for an upgrade to 5.10. But which one? I remembering listing to a talk about this at SPUG a while back, and think that the consensus was to go for 5.10.1. Is this still the case? Thanks -- Mark Mertel mark.mertel at yahoo.com From mark.mertel at yahoo.com Tue Jul 6 20:11:45 2010 From: mark.mertel at yahoo.com (Mark Mertel) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:11:45 -0700 Subject: SPUG: perl version In-Reply-To: References: <4C33E3F3.5020001@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C33F071.4070801@yahoo.com> Thanks Jerry. I'll check it out. On 7/6/2010 8:05 PM, jerry gay wrote: > the smartmatch operator is broken (that is, it has incorrect behavior) > in 5.10.0. if you're upgrading, upgrade to at least 5.10.1. however, > why not consider 5.12.1? at least take a look at the changelogs and > compare. > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 19:18, Mark Mertel wrote: > >> Working on a system that is using 5.8.8 and am wondering about lobbying for >> an upgrade to 5.10. But which one? I remembering listing to a talk about >> this at SPUG a while back, and think that the consensus was to go for >> 5.10.1. Is this still the case? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Mark Mertel >> mark.mertel at yahoo.com >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List >> POST TO: spug-list at pm.org >> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list >> MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays >> WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ >> >> > -- Mark Mertel mark.mertel at yahoo.com From jerry.gay at gmail.com Tue Jul 6 20:05:58 2010 From: jerry.gay at gmail.com (jerry gay) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:05:58 -0700 Subject: SPUG: perl version In-Reply-To: <4C33E3F3.5020001@yahoo.com> References: <4C33E3F3.5020001@yahoo.com> Message-ID: the smartmatch operator is broken (that is, it has incorrect behavior) in 5.10.0. if you're upgrading, upgrade to at least 5.10.1. however, why not consider 5.12.1? at least take a look at the changelogs and compare. On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 19:18, Mark Mertel wrote: > Working on a system that is using 5.8.8 and am wondering about lobbying for > an upgrade to 5.10. But which one? I remembering listing to a talk about > this at SPUG a while back, and think that the consensus was to go for > 5.10.1. Is this still the case? > > Thanks > > -- > Mark Mertel > mark.mertel at yahoo.com > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > ? ?POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > ? MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > ? WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > From twists at gmail.com Wed Jul 7 07:05:08 2010 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:05:08 -0700 Subject: SPUG: perl version In-Reply-To: References: <4C33E3F3.5020001@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:05 PM, jerry gay wrote: > the smartmatch operator is broken (that is, it has incorrect behavior) > in 5.10.0. ?if you're upgrading, upgrade to at least 5.10.1. ?however, > why not consider 5.12.1? ?at least take a look at the changelogs and > compare. For what it's worth, if you go up to 5.12 then you're also buying into our newly found enthusiasm for ensure that patch releases in 5.12.x are purely only bug or documentation fixes. You're newly only supposed to get new features if you actually then upgrade to 5.${NEXT}. That was never true for any earlier perl. So this is a case of perl attempting to become even more careful about being backwards compatible (while freeing up our 5.${NEXT} to move at a faster rate, possibly). Josh From mark.mertel at yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 14:56:09 2010 From: mark.mertel at yahoo.com (Mark Mertel) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:56:09 -0700 Subject: SPUG: Meteor Message-ID: <4C364979.8070200@yahoo.com> Is anybody using, or familiar with Meteor for HTTP server push? Looks pretty cool, and its perl, I think. http://meteorserver.org/installation/ -- Mark Mertel mark.mertel at yahoo.com From andrew at sweger.net Thu Jul 8 15:14:23 2010 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? Message-ID: Has a plan been settled on for a SPUG meeting on 7/20? Is it a "go"? (Sorry, I am just barely paying attention. Let me know if I need to do anything, please.) -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From cjac at colliertech.org Thu Jul 8 22:31:11 2010 From: cjac at colliertech.org (C.J. Adams-Collier) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 22:31:11 -0700 Subject: SPUG: Someone buy mst a beer for me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can't make it to OSCON. I'll give one of you beer money if you spend some of it on mst for me. Also, please tell the Walls that I haven't forgotten about the '06 SotU tape I owe them. It just hasn't been processed yet =] sent from my pdp-11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at sweger.net Mon Jul 12 07:32:32 2010 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Last call. On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Has a plan been settled on for a SPUG meeting on 7/20? Is it a "go"? > > (Sorry, I am just barely paying attention. Let me know if I need to do > anything, please.) > > -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From cmeyer at helvella.org Mon Jul 12 09:13:13 2010 From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:13:13 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: If nothing else, let's declare a social meeting. Sadly, I won't be able to attend this month (despite my earlier expressed enthusiasm for the meeting). It's my sweetie's birthday, and well, you all know about priority queues. :D -Colin. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Last call. > > On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > > Has a plan been settled on for a SPUG meeting on 7/20? Is it a "go"? > > > > (Sorry, I am just barely paying attention. Let me know if I need to do > > anything, please.) > > > > > > -- > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > things can go wrong at once. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at sweger.net Mon Jul 12 10:23:53 2010 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A fine idea. For those interested and able to attend*, please discuss the desired venue. The "official" meeting location (Marchex) is an office conference room and may less suitable to a social gathering (plus, volunteer employees at Marchex need to be involved to make it available to us). The usual social gathering place has been the Elephant and Castle pub and the weather may finally be good enough to use the patio. But no reason to limit your choices. Other recommendations? * I too will be unable to attend (working in Redmond, living in N. Seattle, rarely in any mood to socialize after that drive). On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, Colin Meyer wrote: > If nothing else, let's declare a social meeting. > > Sadly, I won't be able to attend this month (despite my earlier expressed > enthusiasm for the meeting). It's my sweetie's birthday, and well, you all > know about priority queues. :D -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From twists at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 13:15:15 2010 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:15:15 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > A fine idea. For those interested and able to attend*, please discuss the > desired venue. The "official" meeting location (Marchex) is an office > conference room and may less suitable to a social gathering (plus, > volunteer employees at Marchex need to be involved to make it available to > us). The usual social gathering place has been the Elephant and Castle > pub and the weather may finally be good enough to use the patio. But no > reason to limit your choices. Other recommendations? Other reasonable recommendations: Within 1-2 blocks of E&C: Rock Bottom: it's about equivalent The Taphouse: seats fewer, *many* beers on tap At the Pike Place Market: Pike Place Brewery: a little less nearby at Pike Place Market, seats fewer and is often loud, excellent beer on tap White Horse: doesn't open til 6PM, in Post Alley next to the market Kell's: in Post Alley next to the market I'd personally vote for going to: Rock Bottom (because it is closest but not actually the same) or Kell's. Often people meet as early as 5pm so White Horse while nice, isn't exactly right. If we go to Kell's, that makes it super-convenient to also go for flipping awesome espresso at Seattle Coffee Works (across the street from the Pike Place Market). Josh From webstermontego at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 20:48:21 2010 From: webstermontego at gmail.com (Webster) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:48:21 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: I'll add my 2 cents... I'm a big fan of Von's RoastHouse at 619 Pine, about a block from Marchex so it's not much more of a walk than usual. They have nearly 1000 different spirits, a large selection of beers, it's always happy hour with the special changing hourly each time they spin the big drink wheel, and a full menu of food. Aside from the crowded bar area they have a backroom full of seating that's available as well as a side room closer to the bar area that's usually available which is nice because it's just far enough from the bar that you can actually carry on a conversation. If I don't get to have my way then I'd vote for Pike Place Brewery as my safety. As Josh said it can be loud and seating is difficult when they are busy but I'm making the naive assumption that Tuesday usually are not too terrible. Webster * Why is it a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your 2 cents in? Somebody is making a penny. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: >> A fine idea. For those interested and able to attend*, please discuss the >> desired venue. The "official" meeting location (Marchex) is an office >> conference room and may less suitable to a social gathering (plus, >> volunteer employees at Marchex need to be involved to make it available to >> us). The usual social gathering place has been the Elephant and Castle >> pub and the weather may finally be good enough to use the patio. But no >> reason to limit your choices. Other recommendations? > > Other reasonable recommendations: > > Within 1-2 blocks of E&C: > Rock Bottom: it's about equivalent > The Taphouse: seats fewer, *many* beers on tap > > At the Pike Place Market: > Pike Place Brewery: a little less nearby at Pike Place Market, seats > fewer and is often loud, excellent beer on tap > White Horse: doesn't open til 6PM, in Post Alley next to the market > Kell's: in Post Alley next to the market > > I'd personally vote for going to: Rock Bottom (because it is closest > but not actually the same) or Kell's. Often people meet as early as > 5pm so White Horse while nice, isn't exactly right. If we go to > Kell's, that makes it super-convenient to also go for flipping awesome > espresso at Seattle Coffee Works (across the street from the Pike > Place Market). > > Josh > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > ? ? POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > ? ?MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > ? ?WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > From dbenhur at whitepages.com Tue Jul 13 09:33:34 2010 From: dbenhur at whitepages.com (Devin Ben-Hur) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:33:34 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <4C3C955E.40404@whitepages.com> On 7/12/10 8:48 PM, Webster wrote: > I'm a big fan of Von's RoastHouse at 619 Pine, about a block from > Marchex so it's not much more of a walk than usual. They have nearly > 1000 different spirits, a large selection of beers, it's always happy > hour with the special changing hourly each time they spin the big > drink wheel, and a full menu of food. ... All that and you fail to mention that they ROAST MEAT IN THE WINDOW. How can you not love a place that has a Meat Window? I'm happy with any of the options discussed so far. But I'm easy. > Webster > > * Why is it a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your 2 cents > in? Somebody is making a penny. If I only had a nickle for every time someone pointed this out... > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Joshua ben Jore wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: >>> A fine idea. For those interested and able to attend*, please discuss the >>> desired venue. The "official" meeting location (Marchex) is an office >>> conference room and may less suitable to a social gathering (plus, >>> volunteer employees at Marchex need to be involved to make it available to >>> us). The usual social gathering place has been the Elephant and Castle >>> pub and the weather may finally be good enough to use the patio. But no >>> reason to limit your choices. Other recommendations? >> >> Other reasonable recommendations: >> >> Within 1-2 blocks of E&C: >> Rock Bottom: it's about equivalent >> The Taphouse: seats fewer, *many* beers on tap >> >> At the Pike Place Market: >> Pike Place Brewery: a little less nearby at Pike Place Market, seats >> fewer and is often loud, excellent beer on tap >> White Horse: doesn't open til 6PM, in Post Alley next to the market >> Kell's: in Post Alley next to the market >> >> I'd personally vote for going to: Rock Bottom (because it is closest >> but not actually the same) or Kell's. Often people meet as early as >> 5pm so White Horse while nice, isn't exactly right. If we go to >> Kell's, that makes it super-convenient to also go for flipping awesome >> espresso at Seattle Coffee Works (across the street from the Pike >> Place Market). >> >> Josh >> _____________________________________________________________ >> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List >> POST TO: spug-list at pm.org >> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list >> MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays >> WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ >> > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ From klevin at eskimo.com Wed Jul 14 12:20:04 2010 From: klevin at eskimo.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Noah_R=F8mer?=) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:20:04 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: <4C3C955E.40404@whitepages.com> References:

<4C3C955E.40404@whitepages.com> Message-ID: <4C3E0DE4.50003@eskimo.com> I'm gonna vote for Von's with a backup position of Kells. -- Noah Romer | It's difficult to get a man to understand klevin at eskimo.com | something when his salary depends on him not PGP key available | understanding it. by finger or email | - Upton Sinclair From twists at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 19:11:59 2010 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:11:59 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: <4C3E0DE4.50003@eskimo.com> References:

<4C3C955E.40404@whitepages.com> <4C3E0DE4.50003@eskimo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Noah R?mer wrote: > I'm gonna vote for Von's with a backup position of Kells Oh, right! Vons! Seriously! Vons! Josh From cmeyer at helvella.org Thu Jul 15 12:01:17 2010 From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:01:17 -0700 Subject: SPUG: status for 7/20 SPUG? In-Reply-To: References:

<4C3C955E.40404@whitepages.com> <4C3E0DE4.50003@eskimo.com> Message-ID: Vons is pretty sweet. Here's a photo of 1/3 of the liquor selection: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5484278&l=6f846e2fa3&id=706068412 -Colin. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Noah R?mer wrote: > > I'm gonna vote for Von's with a backup position of Kells > > Oh, right! Vons! Seriously! Vons! > > Josh > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MichaelRWolf at att.net Mon Jul 19 11:30:02 2010 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:30:02 -0700 Subject: SPUG: OSCON carpool anyone? Message-ID: <287FA521-3117-42AD-825F-78444BDDCC1D@att.net> Any drivers want a passenger to or from OSCON? I'd like to arrive Tuesday night and return Thursday night, but am flexible. Michael -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From andrew at sweger.net Mon Jul 19 11:53:42 2010 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: SPUG social 7/20 @ Von's Roast House Message-ID: I guess Von's "won" in the discussion. Let's say the "official" meeting time is 6:00 pm, Tuesday, July 20th. Folks are welcome to show up any time. I'm completely unfamiliar with Von's and I won't be able to make it. Can anyone suggest an easy way for newcomers to spot the SPUG group? 619 Pine Street Seattle WA 98101 http://www.vonsroasthouse.com/contact.html http://xrl-dot-us/vonsroasthouse (link to google map, long version below) http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=619+pine,+seattle&sll=47.729175,-122.340014&sspn=0.009309,0.017316&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=619+Pine+St,+Seattle,+King,+Washington+98101&ll=47.613946,-122.334588&spn=0.00933,0.017316&z=16&iwloc=r0 -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From webstermontego at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 14:01:13 2010 From: webstermontego at gmail.com (Webster) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:01:13 -0700 Subject: SPUG: SPUG social 7/20 @ Von's Roast House In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Von's has a little spot reserved for our motley crew which is located past their main dining area and bar area. You just walk straight back past the seater/greater person at the door and it's the first area back there. Or to make things even easier, just ask the hostess as the door where the Perl group is. - Webster On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > I guess Von's "won" in the discussion. Let's say the "official" meeting > time is 6:00 pm, Tuesday, July 20th. Folks are welcome to show up any > time. I'm completely unfamiliar with Von's and I won't be able to make it. > Can anyone suggest an easy way for newcomers to spot the SPUG group? > > 619 Pine Street > Seattle WA 98101 > > http://www.vonsroasthouse.com/contact.html > > http://xrl-dot-us/vonsroasthouse (link to google map, long version below) > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=619+pine,+seattle&sll=47.729175,-122.340014&sspn=0.009309,0.017316&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=619+Pine+St,+Seattle,+King,+Washington+98101&ll=47.613946,-122.334588&spn=0.00933,0.017316&z=16&iwloc=r0 > > -- > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?things can go wrong at once. > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > ? ? POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > ? ?MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > ? ?WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > From andrew at sweger.net Mon Jul 19 14:10:09 2010 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: SPUG social 7/20 @ Von's Roast House In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You rock! On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Webster wrote: > Von's has a little spot reserved for our motley crew which is located > past their main dining area and bar area. You just walk straight back > past the seater/greater person at the door and it's the first area > back there. > > Or to make things even easier, just ask the hostess as the door where > the Perl group is. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From twists at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 11:57:38 2010 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:57:38 -0700 Subject: SPUG: SPUG social 7/20 @ Von's Roast House In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Webster wrote: > Von's has a little spot reserved for our motley crew which is located > past their main dining area and bar area. ?You just walk straight back > past the seater/greater person at the door and it's the first area > back there. I can speak only for myself but I had an excellent time of language geekery. I like I'd like to hear more about how exactly to look at whether any of the Strongtalk JIT stuff can be re-used for now or what. I think we need to demo some Seaside to SPUG. Someone made some noise asking if we'd had a talk on Catalyst anytime recently. I've been hearing from Catalyst that a) it's better than sliced bread, b) that it's more advanced than Rails, c) that the Catalyst folks are in an echo chamber and are reading their own press releases. Sooooo... Josh From MichaelRWolf at att.net Thu Jul 22 00:03:31 2010 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:03:31 -0700 Subject: SPUG: If you could represent Perl at OSCON... Message-ID: <2AF23A75-0084-4527-8495-24BA0CE9BD1F@att.net> Part of what I'm doing at OSCON is to staff the booth for The Perl Foundation. Since it takes a community, here's your opportunity to help... Although it's my body at the booth, I'd like to represent ideas of the community (i.e. you). * How would you answer the fairly common question of "What's up with Perl?" to various levels of participants (e.g. Perl illiterate; curious; newbie; 1st time OSCONer; seasoned, but unconnected Perl hacker). Remember, this is a marketing opportunity to be an ambassador, and that it should include a 1-2 year perspective. * What should TPF be learning from these same folks? Independently of OSCON, how would you like to see TPF serve members (and not-yet-members) of the Perl community? Michael -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From andrew at sweger.net Fri Jul 23 08:49:20 2010 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: positive signs Message-ID: Looks like Perl job market is improving: http://spreadsheets0.google.com/oimg?key=0Anof_6QlnNmCdFhUU2doa2hyV3JVVUhmZDVLeFMzMHc&oid=2&zx=uli8oa-9l98co I made this using my email archive of job postings at: http://jobs.perl.org/ -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From MichaelRWolf at att.net Mon Jul 26 17:12:20 2010 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:12:20 -0700 Subject: SPUG: Perl6 - 10 year anniversary *and* upcoming "birth" day Message-ID: Perl6 is 10 years old, *and* about to be born (for some definition of "born") later this week. The impending Rakudo Star release (July 29) was a big buzz at OSCON. We live in great times!!! Happy 10th anniversary, Perl 6 Address : Rakudo Star (a "usable Perl 6") to be released by July 29 Address : -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From MichaelRWolf at att.net Mon Jul 26 17:12:20 2010 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:12:20 -0700 Subject: SPUG: Perl6 - 10 year anniversary *and* upcoming "birth" day Message-ID: [Note: Identical posting, but with better (i.e. non-LinkedIn) URL's] Perl6 is 10 years old, *and* about to be born (for some definition of "born") later this week. The impending Rakudo Star release (July 29) was a big buzz at OSCON. We live in great times!!! Happy 10th anniversary, Perl 6 Address : Rakudo Star (a "usable Perl 6") to be released by July 29 Address : -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From cxreg at pobox.com Tue Jul 27 12:04:12 2010 From: cxreg at pobox.com (Dave Olszewski) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: Perl6 - 10 year anniversary *and* upcoming "birth" day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've done some hacking on Rakudo lately, including authoring the MiniDBD::Pg driver, and working on pl/parrot for postgres stored procedures in parrot-supported-languages, including Perl 6 Sounds like a subject for an upcoming SPUG :) On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Michael R. Wolf wrote: > [Note: Identical posting, but with better (i.e. non-LinkedIn) URL's] > > Perl6 is 10 years old, *and* about to be born (for some definition of "born") later this week. The impending Rakudo Star release (July 29) was a big buzz at OSCON. > > We live in great times!!! > > Happy 10th anniversary, Perl 6 > Address : > > Rakudo Star (a "usable Perl 6") to be released by July 29 > Address : > > -- > Michael R. Wolf > All mammals learn by playing! > MichaelRWolf at att.net > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list at pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > > > From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org Fri Jul 30 17:59:51 2010 From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SPUG: JOB: Java Dev with Perl Experience (contract, DT Seattle) Message-ID: I am currently seeking a Java Dev with Perl experience: REQUIREMENTS: * At least 5+ years of hands on JAVA experience. * Highly proficient with Perl and Java/J2EE/Weblogic/Oracle. * Experience with Apache Struts and Spring. * Experience in Testing Frameworks like WebTest or Selenium. * Extensive experience with Object Oriented Programming. This is a contract position with an open ended completion date. 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