SPUG: FW: Giving up on computer jobs & usefulness of placementfirms

[Peter Darley]

Folks,
	I may not be a very typical resume reviewer/hirer.  I have always been in a
position where the resumes were sent directly to me, I was the only one who
reviewed them and made the final decision.  In a more typical hiring
environment where it first goes by an HR person, who has artificial
constraints on candidate qualifications, such as 'diversity' and such, it's
better to present yourself as well rounded.  For me, geek that I am, I get
excited when an applicant is involved in Seattle Wireless, or has
contributed code to the GNU/Linux (to be PC) codebase.  I probably represent
the hiring criteria of a small business better than larger ones.
Thanks,
Peter Darley

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[mailto:spug-list-bounces at mail.pm.org]On Behalf Of Dan Ebert
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:18 AM
To: Islandman
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Subject: Re: SPUG: FW: Giving up on computer jobs & usefulness of
placementfirms



That's what I was going to say ... I've gotten other jobs BECAUSE I had
interests/experiences outside of the job related stuff.

Dan.

On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 09:59, Islandman wrote:
> Peter Darley wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> >         I have often been in a position to hire tech folks, and the
number one
> > thing that impresses me when looking at a resume is personal interests.
A
> > programmer who writes programs for themselves in their free time is
likely
> > to rise to the top, a network administrator who doesn't have a network
at
> > their home isn't likely to perform well on the job.
>
> Interesting. I've heard it's better to list the things you do OUTSIDE of
> computer work lest you seem too narrow.
>
> -Brian
> Vashon, WA
>
>
> >
> >         The thing that is the biggest red flag to me is an applicant who
focuses a
> > lot on their industry certifications (especially MCSEs).  Having them
isn't
> > a mark against them, but if it's what they put forward as proof that
they
> > know what they're doing that tells me that they probably don't have much
> > real world experience, weather it's at work, school, noodling around at
> > home, etc.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Peter Darley
> >
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