From pap at sotonians.org.uk Tue Oct 3 08:44:10 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Reminder. Message-ID: <20001003144410.A7534@kylie.office.vi.net> Hello Mongers, This Thursday - at the Brief - around 8.30pm. Gareth and I had a quick pint there last week. It was quite reasonable for our purposes. P. From pap at sotonians.org.uk Thu Oct 5 08:49:30 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Meeting Message-ID: <20001005144930.B15590@kylie.office.vi.net> Heya all, I'd like a quick show of hands to see who's going to be at the meeting tonight. Amongst other things, it'll determine what train I get back, and whether or not I partake of free company beer in London. Mail the group to indicate numbers. Other thing, it might be a /whole/ lot busier this week than it was last week. Early trips to Portswood have revealed a shocking leap in population. The students are back. P. From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Thu Oct 5 08:51:46 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Meeting Message-ID: I can attend if everyone is going to, although I may be a little late... G From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Thu Oct 5 08:54:24 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Meeting Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B3922@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Hi. Im allowed off my leash for an while tonight, so I can make it. Daughter still alive after eating artificial coal from gas fire ( ornamental ) withstanding..... regards Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Pap Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] Sent: 05 October 2000 14:50 To: Southampton.pm mailing list. Subject: Meeting Heya all, I'd like a quick show of hands to see who's going to be at the meeting tonight. Amongst other things, it'll determine what train I get back, and whether or not I partake of free company beer in London. Mail the group to indicate numbers. Other thing, it might be a /whole/ lot busier this week than it was last week. Early trips to Portswood have revealed a shocking leap in population. The students are back. P. From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Fri Oct 6 09:16:19 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: nohup Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B392D@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Guys, On Compaq Tru64 ... I nohup a commandline that runs a perl script eg nohup frontend.pl jhgjh kjhkj kjhkjh & It disappears up its own scheduler ( butt ). Any clues ??? a) Without the nohup it works fine. B) put into a .ksh file it works fine C) echo "command"|at now , does not work, so I guess cron wont either I havent tried nohupping the .ksh file, so if that works Ive got egg on my face.. regards Kevin From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Fri Oct 6 10:20:18 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: nohup Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B392E@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Dont worry guys, I just trapped the offending SIGNAL and threw it away. God bless the 'Perl Cookbook'. regards Kevin From pap at sotonians.org.uk Fri Oct 6 10:23:22 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: nohup In-Reply-To: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B392E@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com>; from Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com on Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:20:18PM +0100 References: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B392E@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: <20001006162322.A18565@kylie.office.vi.net> Sorry Kevin, Last day in my current contract. I feel like a hummingbird of some kind. P. On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:20:18PM +0100, Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com wrote: > > Dont worry guys, I just trapped the offending SIGNAL and threw it away. > > God bless the 'Perl Cookbook'. > > regards > > Kevin > From wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk Sun Oct 8 17:57:12 2000 From: wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk (wayne keenan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: nohup References: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B392E@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: <00e201c0317b$18b7a1c0$ce100914@eu.csc.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: nohup > > Dont worry guys, I just trapped the offending SIGNAL and threw it away. > > God bless the 'Perl Cookbook'. One thing that surprised me, reinstalling signal handlers, I dont know about Tru64, but I believe on Linux you have to reinstall signal handlers, just in the way Tom says. So beware. Regards Wayne From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Tue Oct 17 08:00:58 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Meeting Message-ID: Calling all Soton based Perl mongers... As pap has little or no email in his current contract, it has fallen to me to call mongers to arms for a meeting in the esteemed public house that is The Bent Brief... Is everyone available this Thursday eve? Shouts to the usual addresses... Regards G -- Gareth Noyce -- Applications Engineer Pennant E-Services Tel: 023 8090 8218; Fax: 023 8033 6117 -- From pap at sotonians.org.uk Tue Oct 24 13:48:55 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Paul Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Apologies for the last meet. Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001024194418.009714c0@pop3.lineone.net> Hello all, Last Perl meeting was a bit of a disaster. I was stuck in London thanks to the fellows at South West Trains, so apologies to anyone who turned up. Anyway, we're going to get another new member, so I think we're going to have to organise something semi-regular. I'm now working in Southampton, so I promise I'll be at the next one, come hell or high-water, the latter being more likely in Southampton. P. From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Wed Oct 25 02:40:47 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Apologies for the last meet. Message-ID: Do I presume that the next one is this thursday? > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 7:49 PM > To: southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Apologies for the last meet. > > > Hello all, > > Last Perl meeting was a bit of a disaster. I was stuck in > London thanks to > the fellows at South West Trains, so apologies to anyone who turned > up. Anyway, we're going to get another new member, so I > think we're going > to have to organise something semi-regular. I'm now working in > Southampton, so I promise I'll be at the next one, come hell > or high-water, > the latter being more likely in Southampton. > > P. > > From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Wed Oct 25 03:19:41 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Apologies for the last meet. Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B3963@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> I cant make this Thursday due to a leaving do. -----Original Message----- From: Gareth Noyce [mailto:Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk] Sent: 25 October 2000 08:41 To: 'southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: Apologies for the last meet. Do I presume that the next one is this thursday? > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 7:49 PM > To: southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Apologies for the last meet. > > > Hello all, > > Last Perl meeting was a bit of a disaster. I was stuck in > London thanks to > the fellows at South West Trains, so apologies to anyone who turned > up. Anyway, we're going to get another new member, so I > think we're going > to have to organise something semi-regular. I'm now working in > Southampton, so I promise I'll be at the next one, come hell > or high-water, > the latter being more likely in Southampton. > > P. > > From ptaylor at ordsvy.gov.uk Mon Oct 30 05:48:44 2000 From: ptaylor at ordsvy.gov.uk (Taylor, Paul) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Hmm. Once but the learner... Message-ID: <3951D6A730CBD211BFA800805FA7BC4D01A5FF81@ordsvy.gov.uk> Scary. Yours truly is now developing a course for Perl newbies. Expect lots of dangerous Perl coders to spring forth from Britain's National Mapping Agency. P. ------------------------------------------------------ Paul Taylor Perl Developer Ordnance Survey ------------------------------------------------------ Tel: 023 8030 5287 Mob: 077 2044 9005 From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Oct 30 05:47:58 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Hmm. Once but the learner... Message-ID: > Scary. Yours truly is now developing a course for Perl > newbies. Expect > lots of dangerous Perl coders to spring forth from Britain's National > Mapping Agency. I've just informed Mr Schwartz... From ptaylor at ordsvy.gov.uk Mon Oct 30 08:07:36 2000 From: ptaylor at ordsvy.gov.uk (Taylor, Paul) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Hmm. Once but the learner... Message-ID: <3951D6A730CBD211BFA800805FA7BC4D01A5FF84@ordsvy.gov.uk> > I've just informed Mr Schwartz... > He'll be happy, I'm sure. P. From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Oct 30 08:10:40 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Hmm. Once but the learner... Message-ID: > > I've just informed Mr Schwartz... > > > > He'll be happy, I'm sure. If only he knew you were the fat controller of a *PM. He'd have the language lawers on your ass... From ptaylor at ordsvy.gov.uk Tue Oct 31 07:24:30 2000 From: ptaylor at ordsvy.gov.uk (Taylor, Paul) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Thinking about Windows? Message-ID: <3951D6A730CBD211BFA800805FA7BC4D01A5FF8F@ordsvy.gov.uk> Ok. Small recommendation here for people who wind up on the Gate-meister's platform. OS is a bit funny about installing new machines and operating systems. I have no root permission anywhere in the building and the Perl installs effected by the admin team leave something to be desired. I'm trying to teach a trainee about CGI and Perl's general handiness in that arena - but I can't get into the Apache config to specify an area for him to muck about in. Bummer. He's got a Windows box on his desk, and we've both got the coveted "Developer's Rights". So, solution we found was ActiveState Perl and the Xitami Web Server for Windows. Xitami has quite nice handling of CGI - it even supports the UNIX she-bang mechanism - and the Perl modules we wanted to use worked right off the bat. Nice. P. ------------------------------------------------------ Paul Taylor Perl Developer Ordnance Survey ------------------------------------------------------ Tel: 023 8030 5287 Mob: 077 2044 9005 From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Tue Oct 31 09:07:14 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:58 2004 Subject: Thinking about Windows? Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B3979@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Howabout installing a UMDOS linux partition on his box & letting him play big-time. Ive got peanut-linux, which is great for this, and I think uses Xitami. However it does not make the news much nowadays, BigSlack will do nicely, ZipSlack = no windows. -----Original Message----- From: Taylor, Paul [mailto:ptaylor@ordsvy.gov.uk] Sent: 31 October 2000 13:25 To: 'southampton-pm@hfb.pm.org' Cc: 'techlist@sotonians.org.uk' Subject: Thinking about Windows? Ok. Small recommendation here for people who wind up on the Gate-meister's platform. OS is a bit funny about installing new machines and operating systems. I have no root permission anywhere in the building and the Perl installs effected by the admin team leave something to be desired. I'm trying to teach a trainee about CGI and Perl's general handiness in that arena - but I can't get into the Apache config to specify an area for him to muck about in. Bummer. He's got a Windows box on his desk, and we've both got the coveted "Developer's Rights". So, solution we found was ActiveState Perl and the Xitami Web Server for Windows. Xitami has quite nice handling of CGI - it even supports the UNIX she-bang mechanism - and the Perl modules we wanted to use worked right off the bat. Nice. P. ------------------------------------------------------ Paul Taylor Perl Developer Ordnance Survey ------------------------------------------------------ Tel: 023 8030 5287 Mob: 077 2044 9005