From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Tue Jul 14 00:17:45 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:17:45 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Theory's "PostgreSQL Development: Lessons for Perl?" essay Message-ID: <2665a3df0907140017t4f31834cqb5dc21a218a162c8@mail.gmail.com> Hey everybody, Just read this fantastic article by David Wheeler (of Bricolage fame): http://justatheory.com/computers/databases/postgresql/perl/pg-vs-perl-dev.html It's a fantastically interesting article if you're following along with the recent upheavals at p5p. cheers, Gaurav From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Sat Jul 18 10:04:45 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:04:45 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month? Message-ID: Hey everybody, Would you be interested in a Singapore.pm meetup sometime in the next two weeks? I figure we could just meet up somewhere central for food, say Hi to one another and see if there's any interest for regular meetups or other Singapore.pm-ish events. We could also piggyback onto any other events which are happening around this time: I've already met some of you at the post-SLMG dinners! Picking an arbitrary date, I'd suggest Saturday, August 1st - this gives me plenty of time to spread the news on other mailing lists, but isn't too far in the future. Let me know what you think. cheers, Gaurav From singapore-pm at haller.ws Sat Jul 18 10:16:32 2009 From: singapore-pm at haller.ws (Patrick Haller) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:16:32 +0000 Subject: [singapore-pm] Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090718171632.GD4214@haller.ws> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:04:45AM +0800, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: > Hey everybody, > > Would you be interested in a Singapore.pm meetup sometime in the next > two weeks? I figure we could just meet up somewhere central for food, > say Hi to one another and see if there's any interest for regular > meetups or other Singapore.pm-ish events. We could also piggyback onto > any other events which are happening around this time: I've already met > some of you at the post-SLMG dinners! Picking an arbitrary date, I'd > suggest Saturday, August 1st - this gives me plenty of time to spread the > news on other mailing lists, but isn't too far in the future. > > Let me know what you think. I'm in. I'll spread the word to the other perl hackers at work. Patrick From singapore-pm at haller.ws Sat Jul 18 10:26:22 2009 From: singapore-pm at haller.ws (Patrick Haller) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:26:22 +0000 Subject: [singapore-pm] [gaurav@ggvaidya.com: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month?] Message-ID: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> FYI. Singapore Perl Mongers Meeting on August 1st. Anyone have any topics they'd like to talk about? I can give a talk on creating a common runtime environment for your repository of perl scripts. Patrick ----- Forwarded message from Gaurav Vaidya ----- From: Gaurav Vaidya To: singapore-pm at pm.org Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:04:45 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month? Hey everybody, Would you be interested in a Singapore.pm meetup sometime in the next two weeks? I figure we could just meet up somewhere central for food, say Hi to one another and see if there's any interest for regular meetups or other Singapore.pm-ish events. We could also piggyback onto any other events which are happening around this time: I've already met some of you at the post-SLMG dinners! Picking an arbitrary date, I'd suggest Saturday, August 1st - this gives me plenty of time to spread the news on other mailing lists, but isn't too far in the future. Let me know what you think. cheers, Gaurav _______________________________________________ Singapore-pm mailing list Singapore-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/singapore-pm ----- End forwarded message ----- From mayukhdattaroy at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 22:32:08 2009 From: mayukhdattaroy at gmail.com (Mayukh Datta Roy) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:32:08 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month? In-Reply-To: <20090718171632.GD4214@haller.ws> References: <20090718171632.GD4214@haller.ws> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Patrick Haller wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:04:45AM +0800, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: > > Hey everybody, > > > > Would you be interested in a Singapore.pm meetup sometime in the next > > two weeks? I figure we could just meet up somewhere central for food, > > say Hi to one another and see if there's any interest for regular > > meetups or other Singapore.pm-ish events. We could also piggyback onto > > any other events which are happening around this time: I've already met > > some of you at the post-SLMG dinners! Picking an arbitrary date, I'd > > suggest Saturday, August 1st - this gives me plenty of time to spread the > > news on other mailing lists, but isn't too far in the future. > > > > Let me know what you think. > > I'm in. I'll spread the word to the other perl hackers at work. > > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > Singapore-pm mailing list > Singapore-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/singapore-pm > Hi Count me in as well. Just a short introduction: I am a technology analyst at (erstwhile) Merrill Lynch. We are mainly C#/.NET Microsoft shop. I started experimenting with Perl and discovered to my pleasant surprise how much fun Perl programming is. Slowly but surely i have been pushing both Perl and better Perl programming practices in my organization. -- Cheers Mayukh http://sites.google.com/site/mayukhdattaroy/ Registered Linux user #448577 http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Sun Jul 19 10:26:12 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:26:12 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Perl in Singapore Database, was: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month? In-Reply-To: References: <20090718171632.GD4214@haller.ws> Message-ID: <6E4EE6C5-527E-4F71-A730-A223564ABA25@ggvaidya.com> Hi Mayukh, On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Mayukh Datta Roy wrote: > Just a short introduction: > I am a technology analyst at (erstwhile) Merrill Lynch. We are > mainly C#/.NET Microsoft shop. > I started experimenting with Perl and discovered to my pleasant > surprise how much fun Perl programming is. > Slowly but surely i have been pushing both Perl and better Perl > programming practices in my organization. That's brilliant! :) How's the push going? On that subject, by the way, I'm interested in making a list of companies who use Perl - it'll allow us to attack the myth that Perl isn't relevant any more and help Perl companies and Perl programmers find each other. Suggestions and company information welcome! cheers, Gaurav From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Mon Jul 20 01:11:19 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:11:19 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] [gaurav@ggvaidya.com: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month?] In-Reply-To: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> References: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> Message-ID: <2665a3df0907200111u3730a2a5j5ac67a225dd414e4@mail.gmail.com> Hi Patrick and everybody, 2009/7/19 Patrick Haller : > Anyone have any topics they'd like to talk about? > > I can give a talk on creating a common runtime environment for your > repository of perl scripts. Sure, except that I hadn't planned on talks - I thought we'd just meet at a cafe or something. I'll ask around and see if we can't get some sort of space somewhere central by Aug 1; talks would be fun! Please let me know if any of you know of any such space. cheers, Gaurav From singapore-pm at haller.ws Mon Jul 20 04:11:42 2009 From: singapore-pm at haller.ws (Patrick Haller) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:11:42 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] [gaurav@ggvaidya.com: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month?] In-Reply-To: <2665a3df0907200111u3730a2a5j5ac67a225dd414e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> <2665a3df0907200111u3730a2a5j5ac67a225dd414e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090720111142.GO90954@haller.ws> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 04:11:19PM +0800, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: > Sure, except that I hadn't planned on talks - I thought we'd just meet > at a cafe or something. I'll ask around and see if we can't get some > sort of space somewhere central by Aug 1; talks would be fun! > > Please let me know if any of you know of any such space. We can try to get one of the rooms at the Lee Kong Chian library downtown. 1] They have seminar rooms that seem hardly ever used in the evening 2] Strengthening our contacts with the good people at the NLB = awesome 3] Kopitiam next door or Bugis hawker for post-meeting goodies / durian Patrick From mayukhdattaroy at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 07:18:50 2009 From: mayukhdattaroy at gmail.com (Mayukh Datta Roy) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:18:50 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Perl in Singapore Database, was: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month? In-Reply-To: <6E4EE6C5-527E-4F71-A730-A223564ABA25@ggvaidya.com> References: <20090718171632.GD4214@haller.ws> <6E4EE6C5-527E-4F71-A730-A223564ABA25@ggvaidya.com> Message-ID: Well in more than six months i have managed to release three applications, one for the local dev teams, one for Honk Kong users and a web application for Singapore users. Not too bad, hey :) I also did a short talk on Perl programming(Mostly Damian Conway's Perl Best Practices verbatim ) These applications are neither very large/ nor overtly complex though. I think my enthusiasm for Perl is because of the fact i could deliver things much faster. Well i can say one thing, Perl is definitely not dead. We have lots of legacy code in Perl. However there seems to be some reluctance to accept it as the mainstream development platform. As far as Company Information is considered, i see that Bank of America(Our parent company now) is already listed on http://jobs.perl.org/ as companies using Perl. I would be more than happy to broadcast the fact that we use Perl, let me just run it past the communications team at work. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: > Hi Mayukh, > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Mayukh Datta Roy wrote: > >> Just a short introduction: >> I am a technology analyst at (erstwhile) Merrill Lynch. We are mainly >> C#/.NET Microsoft shop. >> I started experimenting with Perl and discovered to my pleasant surprise >> how much fun Perl programming is. >> Slowly but surely i have been pushing both Perl and better Perl >> programming practices in my organization. >> > That's brilliant! :) How's the push going? > > On that subject, by the way, I'm interested in making a list of companies > who use Perl - it'll allow us to attack the myth that Perl isn't relevant > any more and help Perl companies and Perl programmers find each other. > > Suggestions and company information welcome! > > cheers, > Gaurav > -- Cheers Mayukh http://sites.google.com/site/mayukhdattaroy/ Registered Linux user #448577 http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mengwong at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 06:17:40 2009 From: mengwong at gmail.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:17:40 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] [gaurav@ggvaidya.com: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month?] In-Reply-To: <20090720111142.GO90954@haller.ws> References: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> <2665a3df0907200111u3730a2a5j5ac67a225dd414e4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720111142.GO90954@haller.ws> Message-ID: In my experience with mongers elsewhere the talk is optional but the beer is not. Why don't we go straight to the drinking? :-) On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Patrick Haller wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 04:11:19PM +0800, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: >> Sure, except that I hadn't planned on talks - I thought we'd just >> meet >> at a cafe or something. I'll ask around and see if we can't get some >> sort of space somewhere central by Aug 1; talks would be fun! >> >> Please let me know if any of you know of any such space. > > We can try to get one of the rooms at the Lee Kong Chian library > downtown. > > 1] They have seminar rooms that seem hardly ever used in the evening > 2] Strengthening our contacts with the good people at the NLB = > awesome > 3] Kopitiam next door or Bugis hawker for post-meeting goodies / > durian > > > Patrick From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Thu Jul 23 23:15:23 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:15:23 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] [gaurav@ggvaidya.com: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month?] In-Reply-To: <20090720111142.GO90954@haller.ws> References: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> <2665a3df0907200111u3730a2a5j5ac67a225dd414e4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720111142.GO90954@haller.ws> Message-ID: <2665a3df0907232315p14c348e4q20a83f853e826c37@mail.gmail.com> Hey everybody, 2009/7/20 Patrick Haller : > We can try to get one of the rooms at the Lee Kong Chian library > downtown. > > ?1] They have seminar rooms that seem hardly ever used in the evening > ?2] Strengthening our contacts with the good people at the NLB = awesome > ?3] Kopitiam next door or Bugis hawker for post-meeting goodies / durian > I was thinking about that, too, but those seminar rooms aren't in the NLB's facilities list (http://tinyurl.com/sg-nl-facilities), and they've got a line in there about only working with registered organizations. I'm sure we can talk them into it, though. But for the first meetup, I think we should go for something a bit more relaxed. We'll also be publicising this to other FOSS groups, so we don't know how many people will show up - having a casual meeting to begin with means we'll get a good estimate of the number of people who'll show up for the next one, which we could hold at the NL or somewhere equally sophisticated. Barring other suggestions, I've narrowed down our options to, in order of preference: - http://pitstopcafeinfo.blogspot.com/ I've never been here, but I love their website. Central, and seems like a reasonably relaxed place to get some drinks and have a chat. The boardgames aren't that big a deal, since there's a proper boardgame meetup later that evening at Bugis (I'll pass details around when I know more!). - http://www.earshot.com.sg/ I've been a very long time ago, and I remember it as being a nice if slightly expensive place. Central, and last time I went, not too many people were around, so it'll be handy for loud chats, impromtu talks or passionate discussions. - http://geekterminal.com/web/ I've visited; decent place, with good wireless and powerplugs if anybody wants to make a Hackathon of it. Central, too. Likely to be busy. I figured I'd give you all a chance to vote up or down any of these places before approaching them, so one or more of these might not be available on August 1. I'll confirm with one of these places early next week. Meanwhile, I'll visit the first two places over this weekend and check them out. If you really like or dislike one of these places, or think we can find a better place to go to, speak up! Of course, we will all meet up somewhere, and if you don't like the place, we can always go somewhere else from there. cheers, Gaurav From singapore-pm at haller.ws Fri Jul 24 10:47:23 2009 From: singapore-pm at haller.ws (Patrick Haller) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:47:23 +0000 Subject: [singapore-pm] [gaurav@ggvaidya.com: Singapore Perl Mongers meetup this month?] In-Reply-To: <2665a3df0907232315p14c348e4q20a83f853e826c37@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090718172622.GE4214@haller.ws> <2665a3df0907200111u3730a2a5j5ac67a225dd414e4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720111142.GO90954@haller.ws> <2665a3df0907232315p14c348e4q20a83f853e826c37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090724174723.GQ21511@haller.ws> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:15:23PM +0800, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: > Barring other suggestions, I've narrowed down our options to, in order > of preference: - http://pitstopcafeinfo.blogspot.com/ I've never been > here, but I love their website. Central, and seems like a reasonably > relaxed place to get some drinks and have a chat. The boardgames > aren't that big a deal, since there's a proper boardgame meetup later > that evening at Bugis (I'll pass details around when I know more!). - > http://www.earshot.com.sg/ I've been a very long time ago, and I > remember it as being a nice if slightly expensive place. Central, and > last time I went, not too many people were around, so it'll be handy > for loud chats, impromtu talks or passionate discussions. - > http://geekterminal.com/web/ I've visited; decent place, with good > wireless and powerplugs if anybody wants to make a Hackathon of it. > Central, too. Likely to be busy. FYI, I heard that GeekTerminal was possibly dead from James Chan. http://www.motochan.com/2009/07/21/geek-terminal-a-victim-of-the-times/ Patrick From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Mon Jul 27 00:08:46 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:08:46 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Announcing the first Singapore Perl Mongers Meetup: August 1, 1600-1900 Message-ID: <2665a3df0907270008g40185f7s6d4d8113279a3682@mail.gmail.com> Hey everybody, The decisions have been made, the timetables have been drawn up; the first Singapore Perl Mongers meetup (codenamed "Adagio") will be this Saturday (August 1, 2009) at the Earshot Cafe [1] at The Arts House [2] (the Old Parliament Building; it's right behind Victoria Concert Hall near the Singapore river) from 4pm to 7pm in the afternoon/evening. The meetup will then break for drinks or boardgames or whatever. We don't have a fixed agenda for this meetup; Patrick Haller offered a talk on creating a common runtime environment for a repository of Perl scripts, and I don't mind talking about joining in on core module, perl6 or even perl5 development with GitHub, so we've got a bunch of things to talk about (if the Earshot Cafe isn't too crowded). Personally, I'm just interested in meeting up with all of you and finding out what Perl is used for in Singapore, and how Singapore.pm can help promote Perl in Singaporean companies and to Singaporean students. Please let me know if you need directions, want to ask questions or would like to suggest or volunteer talks; my e-mail address is gaurav at ggvaidya.com. If you want to promote this event on Facebook, I've created an "Event" to make that easier [3]. See you all there! cheers, Gaurav [1] http://www.earshot.com.sg/website/contact.asp [2] http://gothere.sg/directions#arts%20house: [3] http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=148139276152 From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Tue Jul 28 01:51:13 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:51:13 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Announcing the first Singapore Perl Mongers Meetup: August 1, 1600-1900 In-Reply-To: <2665a3df0907270008g40185f7s6d4d8113279a3682@mail.gmail.com> References: <2665a3df0907270008g40185f7s6d4d8113279a3682@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2665a3df0907280151w89ab151i8d515106b3344fcb@mail.gmail.com> Heyo, 2009/7/27 Gaurav Vaidya : > The decisions have been made, the timetables have been drawn up; the > first Singapore Perl Mongers meetup (codenamed "Adagio") will be this > Saturday (August 1, 2009) at the Earshot Cafe [1] at The Arts House > [2] (the Old Parliament Building; it's right behind Victoria Concert > Hall near the Singapore river) from 4pm to 7pm in the > afternoon/evening. ... or not. Apparently, they had us double-booked or something, and we've been pushed aside for a wedding. I'll get in touch once we have another venue. cheers, Gaurav From gaurav at ggvaidya.com Wed Jul 29 02:51:59 2009 From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:51:59 +0800 Subject: [singapore-pm] Announcing the first Singapore Perl Mongers Meetup: August 1, 1600-1900 In-Reply-To: <2665a3df0907280151w89ab151i8d515106b3344fcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2665a3df0907270008g40185f7s6d4d8113279a3682@mail.gmail.com> <2665a3df0907280151w89ab151i8d515106b3344fcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2665a3df0907290251s5bd9ae02q99845ef21cb5cc2f@mail.gmail.com> Hey everybody, Sorry about the unexpected rescheduling of the meetup this Saturday. We won't be able to meet up at the Earshot Cafe, as planned, because they've got a wedding on. Instead, I've reserved tables for us at the Mind Cafe on Princep Street [1], from 4pm to 7pm. It's really close to Dhoby Ghaut MRT [2] and SMU. I hope you'll all be able to make it! cheers, Gaurav [1] This joint: http://www.themindcafe.com.sg/TheMindCafe_Outlet_ps.php [2] Here's the map: http://www.themindcafe.com.sg/images/outletsPrinsep_r3_c1.jpg