Eu achei muito legal a iniciativa.
Ricado Stock
ricardostock em bol.com.br
Um bom programador tem um desafio
Um programador mediano, tem um problema.
De: rodrigo em toetec.com.br
Enviada: Terça-feira, 27 de Outubro de 2015 12:43
Para: saopaulo-pm em mail.pm.org
Assunto: [SP-pm] Fullstack Developers São Paulo
Acho que toda terminologia pode ser mistificada ou desmistificada,
assim como o remédio em excesso pode ser veneno! ;)
O comentário do André me fez lembrar desta chamada da
alleyinteractive.com:
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a professional
and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have
a holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a
professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
"
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a professional
and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have
a holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a
professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work with,
but who can also interface with clients in a professional and
intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their
work."
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a professional
and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have
a holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a
professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpufOur
developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a professional
and intelligent way.
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a professional
and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a
holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a professional
and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have
a holistic understanding of the web technology stack they work
with, but who can also interface with clients in a
professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates.
We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who
want to work with some impressive clients and who want to take
pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who
have a holistic understanding of the web technology stack
they work with, but who can also interface with clients in a
professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or
pirates. We're looking for smart, creative, resourceful
developers who want to work with some impressive clients and
who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
On 27-10-2015 07:29, Andre Carneiro
wrote:
Pra mim esse lance de 'fullstack' é um nome bonito para o
'faz-tudo-que-deve-ganhar-a-mesma-merda'. É mais uma
desculpinha esfarrapada do povo de RH que quer 'mostrar
serviço', mostrando que pode contratar uma pessoa que pode
fazer o serviço de três pessoas pelo preço de uma. Isso 'no
ecxiste'!
É muito raro alguém que domine todas as áreas envolvidas em
problemas de TI, ou seja, do design ao backend. Eu não conheço
ninguém.
Cheers!
2015-10-26 23:43 GMT-02:00 Solli
Honorio <shonorio em gmail.com>:
Nilton,
A questão é mais como é que se torna um Fullstack
Dev. Partindo do princípio que não tem coisa melhor (e
nem pior), o Fullstack vem de um profissional que sente
prazer e se diverte com todo o 'enviroment' do
desenvolvimento, e isto incluí a parte do backend.
Com relação as empresas gostarem mais ou menos deste
profissional, está mais relacionado a cultura e
necessidade dela. Se a empresa tem definições rígidas
como desenvolver, talvez não vê num profissional
Fullstack adequado a equipe, e na minha opinião ela tem
ração. Criar equipe é difícil, e ter pessoal com perfil
não aderente a cultura dela é mais difícil ainda.
Abraços,
Solli Honório
Em 26 de outubro de 2015
22:52, Nilton OS <jniltinho em gmail.com>
escreveu:
Thiago, mas Fullstack Developers não é o
cara que sabe desde de desenv ate infra,
será que uma empresa quer um cara assim.
Olha fiquei uns 6 meses sem trampo e percebi
que muitas empresas não são tão fam desses
caras ou não acreditam muito.
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Em 26 de outubro
de 2015 22:42, Nilton OS <jniltinho em gmail.com>
escreveu:
Olhas os eventos de Python que
eu vou e gravo.
Esse foi o ultimo, esse sábado:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZrboFfBDFw
Tem uma lista:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCI7D6WaQZg&list=PLIXNPsQriECwDaMwcuZS1SfjYe14KjE6E
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ago
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SCLA, ITILv3
2011"
Em 26
de outubro de 2015 19:24,
Ricardo Stock <ricardostock em bol.com.br>
escreveu:
tamo
junto
Ricardo Stock
ricardo em stocksistemas.com.br
www.stockssitemas.com.br
- Tel/Whatsapp (13)98826-5700
-----Mensagem
Original----- From:
Thiago Rondon
Sent: Monday, October
26, 2015 8:04 AM
To: São Paulo Perl
Mongers
Subject: [SP-pm]
Fullstack Developers São
Paulo
Pessoal,
Acabei de criar um
meetup, nossa ideia é
desenvolver um evento a
cada
3 meses com
desenvolvedores que
estejam criando soluções
de
"ponta-a-ponta" e
queiram compartilhar
isso.
Em muitos casos, temos
preferencias de atuação
entre back-end,
front-end, banco de
dados, infraestrutura e
por aí vai, além de
tecnologias especificas.
A ideia é misturar tudo,
e debater sobre
soluções criadas por
pessoas que decidiram
fazer tudo.
E o primeiro evento já
tem data, é dia 21 de
novembro.
http://www.meetup.com/Fullstack-Developers-Sao-Paulo/
Quem tiver afim de
participar e falar
sobre, por favor, só
entrar no
meetup e compartilhar o
que queira dizer lá no
grupo mesmo.
Abs!
-Thiago Rondon
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