From kevin at oreilly.com Mon Jan 5 16:11:47 2004 From: kevin at oreilly.com (Kevin Bingham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> Hola Fellow Perl Mongers! Sean Kirkpatrick asked me to announce his Perl course for this spring at the www.srjc.us . So here it is. Tell your friends, or attend yourself! Sure it's a scheduling conflict with our meetings. But IMHO with Sean's enjoyable teaching style, it would be well worth going to. Kudos! -Kevin Your Perl-ish Host ================================== http://www.santarosa.edu/ http://tinyurl.com/ywflb CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI (Formerly CIS 84.23) 6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) scripts for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from the Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit course for grade or CR/NC) Prerequisite: Completion of CIS 10A (or CIS 10 or BDP 10), and completion of CIS 58.51B (or CIS 84.42B). >X-Original-To: kevin@west.ora.com >From: Sean Kirkpatrick >To: Kevin Bingham >Subject: Perl class at the JC > > >Hi Kevin. > >I wonder if you'd send a mailing to the PM list announcing the Perl course >this semester at the JC. The course is taught on Tuesday nights (there >goes my participation in PM this semester! :) from 18.00 to 20.00 at the >SR campus. Details can be found at www.srjc.us, follow the links to the >syllabus. > >Thanks! > > Sean > > From gene at oreilly.com Mon Jan 5 16:21:17 2004 From: gene at oreilly.com (Gene Boggs) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> Message-ID: <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> > CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI > 6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK > > Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report > language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) scripts > for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it > relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from the > Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on > incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit course > for grade or CR/NC) A couple problems here: 1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. 2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. 3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical extraction and reporting language". This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the description is not even close with respect to such simple little things. -Gene Boggs Software engineer and pedantic Bastard From tom_h_anderson at agilent.com Mon Jan 5 16:36:08 2004 From: tom_h_anderson at agilent.com (Tom Anderson (Thomas H)) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> Message-ID: <3FF9E6D8.C0BA8A2F@agilent.com> Perhaps he intends to use the Inline::PERL module. Check out http://search.cpan.org/~jmcnamara/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/PERL.pm "It should work perfectly the first time" -toma -Tom Gene Boggs wrote: > > CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI > > 6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK > > > > Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report > > language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) scripts > > for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it > > relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from the > > Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on > > incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit course > > for grade or CR/NC) > > A couple problems here: > > 1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. > > 2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. > > 3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical > extraction and reporting language". > > This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the > description is not even close with respect to such simple little > things. > > -Gene Boggs > Software engineer and pedantic Bastard From kevin at oreilly.com Mon Jan 5 16:51:31 2004 From: kevin at oreilly.com (Kevin Bingham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <3FF9E6D8.C0BA8A2F@agilent.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> DESCRIPTION PERL is a programming language for writing CGI applications. It's main strength is that it doesn't have any unnecessary warnings or strictures. It is a direct descendent of Perl, a programming language which was used mainly by programmers. However, the original language required too much reading and thinking and so PERL was developed as a language which was more in tune with the requirements of the Internet age. -Kevin At 02:36 PM 1/5/2004 -0800, Tom Anderson (Thomas H) wrote: >Perhaps he intends to use the Inline::PERL module. > >Check out >http://search.cpan.org/~jmcnamara/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/PERL.pm > >"It should work perfectly the first time" -toma > >-Tom > >Gene Boggs wrote: > > > > CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI > > > 6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK > > > > > > Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report > > > language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) scripts > > > for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it > > > relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from the > > > Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on > > > incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit course > > > for grade or CR/NC) > > > > A couple problems here: > > > > 1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. > > > > 2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. > > > > 3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical > > extraction and reporting language". > > > > This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the > > description is not even close with respect to such simple little > > things. > > > > -Gene Boggs > > Software engineer and pedantic Bastard From mike_w3 at pacbell.net Mon Jan 5 17:36:30 2004 From: mike_w3 at pacbell.net (Mike Wong) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> Message-ID: <1073345790.8812.18.camel@bagua.wongguolong.net> Or maybe he's invoking the Pathalogically Eclectic Rubbish Lister form of Perl. In which case, I'd say that the course description very much qualifies. On the other hand, it leads me to wonder who would be interested in CGI programming post-web boom. My own suspicions (backed by a recent experience) leads me to believe that the candidate will likely be an MIS majour. IMHO, MIS majours are interested in CGI from a reduce-IT-costs business point-of-view and not interested in the technology or the culture (or such minour things as implementation and accuracy). Their only interest in technology is that some of these poor souls believe that they will be qualified to manage technical people after taking a few courses. I suspect that the description has been written to appeal to such people, who don't like reading and thinking, but do like telling others what technology to use. I wonder what this means for the JC's agenda? - m. On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 14:51, Kevin Bingham wrote: > DESCRIPTION > > PERL is a programming language for writing CGI applications. It's main > strength is that it doesn't have any unnecessary warnings or strictures. It > is a direct descendent of Perl, a programming language which was used > mainly by programmers. However, the original language required too much > reading and thinking and so PERL was developed as a language which was more > in tune with the requirements of the Internet age. > > > > > > -Kevin > > At 02:36 PM 1/5/2004 -0800, Tom Anderson (Thomas H) wrote: > >Perhaps he intends to use the Inline::PERL module. > > > >Check out > >http://search.cpan.org/~jmcnamara/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/PERL.pm > > > >"It should work perfectly the first time" -toma > > > >-Tom > > > >Gene Boggs wrote: > > > > > > CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI > > > > 6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK > > > > > > > > Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report > > > > language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) scripts > > > > for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it > > > > relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from the > > > > Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on > > > > incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit course > > > > for grade or CR/NC) > > > > > > A couple problems here: > > > > > > 1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. > > > > > > 2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. > > > > > > 3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical > > > extraction and reporting language". > > > > > > This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the > > > description is not even close with respect to such simple little > > > things. > > > > > > -Gene Boggs > > > Software engineer and pedantic Bastard -- Mike Wong From fryman at sonic.net Mon Jan 5 21:21:22 2004 From: fryman at sonic.net (troy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <1073345790.8812.18.camel@bagua.wongguolong.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> <1073345790.8812.18.camel@bagua.wongguolong.net> Message-ID: <20040105192122.A13785@sonic.net> On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 03:36:30PM -0800, Mike Wong wrote: > > Or maybe he's invoking the Pathalogically Eclectic Rubbish Lister form > of Perl. In which case, I'd say that the course description very much > qualifies. I was wondering who'd chime in first with my favorite Perl acronym... > On the other hand, it leads me to wonder who would be interested in > CGI programming post-web boom. We should remember that (despite the best efforts of his holiness Dr. Agrella to discourage it) SRJC is still a /community/ college. That means its target audience should consist not only of career minded individuals, but also of the grandpa who wishes to script pictures of his heirloom tomatoes. I hope SRJC continues to fit that need, but it will require an administration and overall attitude change to make it so. Oh, and most of the catalog descriptions were written years ago. They seldom change... -troy From seank at bitkickers.us Mon Jan 5 21:45:08 2004 From: seank at bitkickers.us (Sean Kirkpatrick) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <1073345790.8812.18.camel@bagua.wongguolong.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> <1073345790.8812.18.camel@bagua.wongguolong.net> Message-ID: <3FFA2F44.5080206@bitkickers.us> Thanks to you all for your delightfully amusing but utterly irrelevant commentary on what is certainly the *least* most significant part of the process. I can't tell you when I've laughed so hard. You must understand though that the Title V outlines for most of the courses offered by the JC are written by and for folks who have one thing in mind: the administration and management of the institution, and not the delivery of educational content. Sometime over a beer (you're buying, of course), I'll tell you just how bogus it all is. ( "...theory as it relates to practice..." - what the hell does *that* mean?) I offer you all the following: 1) If you do have some serious suggestions about how to improve the course, please let me know. As an adjunct faculty member who receives no compensation for the extra duties of improving *actual* coursework, I find it nonsensical in the extreme to create extra work for myself by revising Title V descriptions that only serve to make some PhD or VP all squishy inside. However, I am always willing to incorporate new ideas and suggestions to make the educational content better and more relevant. I especially appreciate these suggestions from those who are actually working in the field, and not just collecting degrees. 2) Consider the possibilty of putting your knowledge where your attitude is by enrolling, and then offering to *teach* a class or two. You may (or may not) be a hell-of-a-programmer, but do you have what it takes to keep a class of widely disparate abilities entertained and learning? My last Perl class had an age range of 20 (she actually skipped class one night to go to her 21st b-day party!) to 60, novices with 1 semester of programming to sysadmins, including 2 "Managers". Some of them were actually *interested* in CGI with perl. Can you imagine? 3) Do remember that this is an "introduction to" and not a graduate level course in Object Oriented Programming in Perl. (The _sensibility_ of doing OOPerl - just because you can doesn't mean that you should - is another topic, and we'll debate that over the second beer that you're going to buy me.) 4) Does it *really* matter whether it capitalized or not? Life is far to short to fight meaningless battles (though it appears that W is clueless on this point also). OTOH, if you're truly serious about your windmills, there is a new translation of Don Quixote published recently. I've heard that it's quite good. See you next week, or not. Sean Mike Wong and several others wrote: >Or maybe he's invoking the Pathalogically Eclectic Rubbish Lister form >of Perl. In which case, I'd say that the course description very much >qualifies. > >On the other hand, it leads me to wonder who would be interested in CGI >programming post-web boom. My own suspicions (backed by a recent >experience) leads me to believe that the candidate will likely be an MIS >majour. IMHO, MIS majours are interested in CGI from a reduce-IT-costs >business point-of-view and not interested in the technology or the >culture (or such minour things as implementation and accuracy). Their >only interest in technology is that some of these poor souls believe >that they will be qualified to manage technical people after taking a >few courses. > >I suspect that the description has been written to appeal to such >people, who don't like reading and thinking, but do like telling others >what technology to use. I wonder what this means for the JC's agenda? > >- m. > >On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 14:51, Kevin Bingham wrote: > > >>DESCRIPTION >> >>PERL is a programming language for writing CGI applications. It's main >>strength is that it doesn't have any unnecessary warnings or strictures. It >>is a direct descendent of Perl, a programming language which was used >>mainly by programmers. However, the original language required too much >>reading and thinking and so PERL was developed as a language which was more >>in tune with the requirements of the Internet age. >> >> >> >> >> >>-Kevin >> >>At 02:36 PM 1/5/2004 -0800, Tom Anderson (Thomas H) wrote: >> >> >>>Perhaps he intends to use the Inline::PERL module. >>> >>>Check out >>>http://search.cpan.org/~jmcnamara/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/PERL.pm >>> >>>"It should work perfectly the first time" -toma >>> >>>-Tom >>> >>>Gene Boggs wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI >>>>>6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK >>>>> >>>>>Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report >>>>>language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) scripts >>>>>for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it >>>>>relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from the >>>>>Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on >>>>>incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit course >>>>>for grade or CR/NC) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>A couple problems here: >>>> >>>>1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. >>>> >>>>2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. >>>> >>>>3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical >>>>extraction and reporting language". >>>> >>>>This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the >>>>description is not even close with respect to such simple little >>>>things. >>>> >>>>-Gene Boggs >>>>Software engineer and pedantic Bastard >>>> >>>> From gene at oreilly.com Tue Jan 6 11:29:12 2004 From: gene at oreilly.com (Gene Boggs) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <3FFA2F44.5080206@bitkickers.us> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> <1073345790.8812.18.camel@bagua.wongguolong.net> <3FFA2F44.5080206@bitkickers.us> Message-ID: <20040106172912.GG19214@oreilly.com> Someone hasn't had their coffee yet. I offer the following in reply: 1) Perl people are pedantic. 2) Perl people find seemingly inconsequential details amusing. 3) Perl people love to flex their sarcasm skills. 4) Perl people are mostly harmless. -gb * On 5-Jan-2004 at 7:51PM PST, Sean Kirkpatrick said: > > Thanks to you all for your delightfully amusing but utterly irrelevant > commentary on what is certainly the *least* most significant part of the > process. I can't tell you when I've laughed so hard. You must understand > though that the Title V outlines for most of the courses offered by the > JC are written by and for folks who have one thing in mind: the > administration and management of the institution, and not the delivery > of educational content. Sometime over a beer (you're buying, of course), > I'll tell you just how bogus it all is. ( "...theory as it relates to > practice..." - what the hell does *that* mean?) > > I offer you all the following: > > 1) If you do have some serious suggestions about how to improve the > course, please let me know. As an adjunct faculty member who receives no > compensation for the extra duties of improving *actual* coursework, I > find it nonsensical in the extreme to create extra work for myself by > revising Title V descriptions that only serve to make some PhD or VP all > squishy inside. However, I am always willing to incorporate new ideas > and suggestions to make the educational content better and more > relevant. I especially appreciate these suggestions from those who are > actually working in the field, and not just collecting degrees. > > 2) Consider the possibilty of putting your knowledge where your > attitude is by enrolling, and then offering to *teach* a class or two. > You may (or may not) be a hell-of-a-programmer, but do you have what it > takes to keep a class of widely disparate abilities entertained and > learning? My last Perl class had an age range of 20 (she actually > skipped class one night to go to her 21st b-day party!) to 60, novices > with 1 semester of programming to sysadmins, including 2 "Managers". > Some of them were actually *interested* in CGI with perl. Can you imagine? > > 3) Do remember that this is an "introduction to" and not a graduate > level course in Object Oriented Programming in Perl. (The _sensibility_ > of doing OOPerl - just because you can doesn't mean that you should - is > another topic, and we'll debate that over the second beer that you're > going to buy me.) > > 4) Does it *really* matter whether it capitalized or not? Life is far > to short to fight meaningless battles (though it appears that W is > clueless on this point also). OTOH, if you're truly serious about your > windmills, there is a new translation of Don Quixote published recently. > I've heard that it's quite good. > > See you next week, or not. > > Sean > > Mike Wong and several others wrote: > > >Or maybe he's invoking the Pathalogically Eclectic Rubbish Lister form > >of Perl. In which case, I'd say that the course description very much > >qualifies. > > > >On the other hand, it leads me to wonder who would be interested in CGI > >programming post-web boom. My own suspicions (backed by a recent > >experience) leads me to believe that the candidate will likely be an MIS > >majour. IMHO, MIS majours are interested in CGI from a reduce-IT-costs > >business point-of-view and not interested in the technology or the > >culture (or such minour things as implementation and accuracy). Their > >only interest in technology is that some of these poor souls believe > >that they will be qualified to manage technical people after taking a > >few courses. > > > >I suspect that the description has been written to appeal to such > >people, who don't like reading and thinking, but do like telling others > >what technology to use. I wonder what this means for the JC's agenda? > > > >- m. > > > >On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 14:51, Kevin Bingham wrote: > > > > > >>DESCRIPTION > >> > >>PERL is a programming language for writing CGI applications. It's main > >>strength is that it doesn't have any unnecessary warnings or strictures. > >>It is a direct descendent of Perl, a programming language which was used > >>mainly by programmers. However, the original language required too much > >>reading and thinking and so PERL was developed as a language which was > >>more in tune with the requirements of the Internet age. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-Kevin > >> > >>At 02:36 PM 1/5/2004 -0800, Tom Anderson (Thomas H) wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Perhaps he intends to use the Inline::PERL module. > >>> > >>>Check out > >>>http://search.cpan.org/~jmcnamara/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/PERL.pm > >>> > >>>"It should work perfectly the first time" -toma > >>> > >>>-Tom > >>> > >>>Gene Boggs wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI > >>>>>6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK > >>>>> > >>>>>Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report > >>>>>language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) > >>>>>scripts > >>>>>for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on theory as it > >>>>>relates to practice. Students will create original Perl scripts from > >>>>>the > >>>>>Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will be placed on > >>>>>incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web site. (Credit > >>>>>course > >>>>>for grade or CR/NC) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>A couple problems here: > >>>> > >>>>1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. > >>>> > >>>>2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. > >>>> > >>>>3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical > >>>>extraction and reporting language". > >>>> > >>>>This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the > >>>>description is not even close with respect to such simple little > >>>>things. > >>>> > >>>>-Gene Boggs From george at metaart.org Tue Jan 6 15:54:32 2004 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl class at the JC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040105140649.00cb48c0@pop3.west.ora.com> <20040105222117.GC19214@oreilly.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040105144208.00cd8670@pop3.west.ora.com> Message-ID: <200401061354.32253.george@metaart.org> Thanks. I somehow had missed the emergence of PERL. Memo to self: bad on me. try to pay attention. Memo to self: start to use the Inline::PERL module. It is in the interest of encouraging this new (?) technology that I make the following proposals: Whereas, when it comes right down to it, no warnings or strictures are really really necessary, and whereas positive reinforcement is often effective, and whereas negative reinforcement is mostly a waste of time anyway, I therefore propose that: (1) All warnings and strictures be permanently removed from PERL. (2) PERL generate the message "Hello World!" whenever it is hopelessly confused and/or can't think of anything nice to say. Notes: (a) Those who favor warnings can always interpret "Hello World!" as ominous, which now that I think of it ... (b) Those who favor strictures might best turn to such scriptures as "Perl, the first postmodern computer language" [See http://www.wall.org/~larry/pm.html ] Or how about any of the scriptures Larry Wall lists under Culture on his PERL page. [See http://www.wall.org/~larry/perl.html ] Or perhaps someone knows of some specifically PERL scriptures. (c) Who knows what wondrous programs will be created by PERL programmers given such positive reinforcement?! (d) I am not set on the content of the message as long as it's normal interpretation is positive. For example, any of the six scriptures that Larry Wall lists under Culture on his Perl page seem to meet my criteria, though some may consider them a tad long. (e) It has been suggested that the song "Alice's Restaurant" be used as the message. While I personally like the song, I think threats by listener sposored radio stations to play it if short term goals are not met, make it an inappropriate choice. (f) One argument in favor of "Hello World!" as the message is that new PERL programmers writing the hello world program as their first program would be more likely to succeed. Long live PERL. George of Oakland.pm and Camelot.pm On Monday 05 January 2004 2:51 pm, Kevin Bingham wrote: > DESCRIPTION > > PERL is a programming language for writing CGI applications. It's main > strength is that it doesn't have any unnecessary warnings or strictures. It > is a direct descendent of Perl, a programming language which was used > mainly by programmers. However, the original language required too much > reading and thinking and so PERL was developed as a language which was more > in tune with the requirements of the Internet age. > > > > > > -Kevin > > At 02:36 PM 1/5/2004 -0800, Tom Anderson (Thomas H) wrote: > >Perhaps he intends to use the Inline::PERL module. > > > >Check out > >http://search.cpan.org/~jmcnamara/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/PERL.pm > > > >"It should work perfectly the first time" -toma > > > >-Tom > > > >Gene Boggs wrote: > > > > CIS 54.31 Perl & CGI > > > > 6675 T 6:00pm- 8:00pm KIRKPATRICK > > > > > > > > Description: An introduction to PERL (program extraction report > > > > language) which is used to create common gateway interface (CGI) > > > > scripts for use in Internet web sites. Emphasis will be placed on > > > > theory as it relates to practice. Students will create original Perl > > > > scripts from the Internet which they will revise. Lab emphasis will > > > > be placed on incorporating the Perl scripts into an existing web > > > > site. (Credit course for grade or CR/NC) > > > > > > A couple problems here: > > > > > > 1) PERL is not written in ALL CAPS because.. > > > > > > 2) ..it is not an acronym and hasn't been quite a few years now. > > > > > > 3) Also that is the wrong acronym anyway. It's actually "Practical > > > extraction and reporting language". > > > > > > This makes me wonder about the quality of such a course when the > > > description is not even close with respect to such simple little > > > things. > > > > > > -Gene Boggs > > > Software engineer and pedantic Bastard From kevin at oreilly.com Fri Jan 23 08:19:06 2004 From: kevin at oreilly.com (Kevin Bingham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:28 2004 Subject: Perl Mongers Meeting: Tuesday January 27th Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20040123061720.00cc92e8@pop3.west.ora.com> Greetings Fellow Perl Mongers! It's time to bring out your Perl! Show it. Share it. Monger it! Computer, projector, and internet connection will be available. When: Tuesday January 27th, 7:30 to 9:00pm. Where: O'Reilly & Associates 1005 Gravenstein Hwy North Sebastopol, CA 95472 And for those who are interested, there's always the optional pizza run from Mary's Pizza Shack. Kudos! -Kevin Bingham kevin@oreilly.com kevin@sonoma.pm.org http://sonoma.pm.org/ Directions: http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/seb_directions.html http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=1005+Gravenstein+Hwy+N&city=Sebastopol&state=CA&zip=95472-2814&country=us