<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Quinn Weaver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quinn@fairpath.com">quinn@fairpath.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey, everyone,<br>
<br>
Sorry I'm catching up late.<br>
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Jeff Bragg wrote:<br>
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> It incorporates both Joe's coat of arms and a less violent but vaguely similar alternative to<br>
> David's suggestion.<br>
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</div>Huh? A coat of arms' association with violence is vestigial at best.<br>
The comparison is like saying that an Edwardian dandy's cane is<br>
violent because it evolved from an Elizabethan nobleman's sword.</blockquote><div><br>"...it amused me to picture a giant camel impaled on one of the towers of the gg bridge."<br><br>I would consider impaling violent. I'm not judging, nor trying to imply that the image or statement in any way characterizes you, simply saying that impaling generally comes up in a context of violence (e.g. Vlad the Impaler). <br>
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In any case, O'Reilly "maintain[s] the trademark on the use of camel<br>
in association with Perl." They tolerate its use by Perl Mongers<br>
groups, but anything that borders on the commercial could be dicey.<br>
This is a good reason to avoid camels.</blockquote><div><br>Fair enough. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
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It's also the reason the Perl onion was invented: to have a symbol<br>
that was owned by the Perl Foundation and truly free to use for the<br>
community . However, the Perl Foundation hasn't really lived up to<br>
this vision; it's very restrictive about giving out hi-res (and SVG)<br>
onion images. See <a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl_trademark" target="_blank">http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl_trademark</a> .<br>
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So it would be really nice to have our own logo that is camel- and<br>
onion-free. Joe's fulfills those criteria, and it's very visually<br>
distinctive. I'm JAGM (just another group member), but I really like<br>
Joe's contribution. YMMV.<br>
<br>
In any case, thanks to Jeff for putting in the work on an alternate<br>
design--it's always good to have alternatives. And thanks to everyone<br>
for their feedback. I love that I am totally superfluous to this<br>
group now ("'Now?'" people say ;) )</blockquote><div><br>yw <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
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PS: Regarding T-shirts: I used to print shirts on Goodstorm, before<br>
they were bought by Zazzle. I don't know how well Zazzle works, but<br>
Goodstorm worked like a charm. I like that they (still) offer<br>
American Apparel, in a variety of cuts and colors--not the bag-shaped<br>
unisex T-shirts you often see at cons.<br>
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Quinn Weaver Consulting, LLC<br>
Full-stack web development<br>
<a href="http://fairpath.com/%0A510-520-5217" target="_blank">http://fairpath.com/<br>
510-520-5217</a><br>
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