From doomvox at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 17:14:15 2018 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 17:14:15 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Announcing Perl 6 Informal Study Sessions Message-ID: Okay, to start with the summary: Perl 6 Informal Study Sessions Sundays, starting on April 15 10am - Noonish "Blue Oak Cafe" at the Oakland Museum 1000 Oak Street (at 10th Street) near Lake Merritt BART https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/37.79841/-122.26579 First reading: https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell And maybe (this comes with the perl6 code): rakudo-star-2018.01/docs/perl6intro.pdf I want to try something new with the SF Perl group: an informal series of study sessions focused on perl6. My idea is to get together for a few hours on Sunday mornings over at the Oakland Museum cafe, and start going through one of the new perl 6 books together (though there's plenty material to look at at this point). Rather than formal classes I'm thinking more like hackfest-style with lots of shoulder surfing. There will be announced readings, but it's up to you how much time you spend on them before hand. For the first gathering, I figure we should start with just this one web page: https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell And after that we can start working through the main "course textbook". My pick for that is the Moritz Lenz book, "Perl 6 Fundamentals", which has a PDF available for free download: https://www.world-of-digitals.com/en/moritz-lenz-perl-6-fundamentals-ebook-pdf You can also get a print-on-demand copy from Apress for a little over $30: https://www.apress.com/us/book/9781484228982 And the code examples from it are on github: https://github.com/Apress/perl-6-fundamentals For the location, I want to try using the Blue Oak Cafe over at the Oakland Museum. Despite being on the museum premises, this is open to the public without paying a museum admission, and it's right by the Lake Merrit BART station. The coffee is good and the food is decent, and I think the environment will work out well. There's no wifi, however, so load-up your laptops in advance. In particular, you can install perl6 from: https://perl6.org/downloads/ Time and date: let's try every Sunday, 10am-Noonish. Let's call the first one official one April 15th (argh, the ides of April... but it's always something). (Though I'm going to be hanging around there this Sunday as a trial run if anyone feels like coming by.) From doomvox at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 15:25:48 2018 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:25:48 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Reminder: Perl 6 Study this Sunday Message-ID: Just a quick reminder: I'm experimenting with getting folks together to play around with Perl 6 on Sunday mornings at the Cafe over in the Oakland Museum. I don't know about you, but I keep playing around with Perl 6, then putting it aside and forgetting what I know. I thought doing something like this might get me over the hump with the language of the future.... Perl 6 Informal Study Sessions Sundays, starting on April 15 10am - Noonish "Blue Oak Cafe" at the Oakland Museum 1000 Oak Street (at 10th Street) near Lake Merritt BART https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/37.79841/-122.26579 First reading: https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell Supplemental reading: rakudo-star-2018.01/docs/perl6intro.pdf (this comes with the perl6 code) Part of the idea here though, is that I want to play around with using this place for gatherings... the cafe is open to the public without paying a museum admission, it's quiet with lots of table space, and it's right by a BART station, and taken all together, that's pretty unusual. The meetup page is here: https://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl/events/249519961/ An RSVP is appreciated, though not at all required, of course-- and in fact if anyone here felt like working on something else, or just dropping by to hang-out, that's fine too. On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > Okay, to start with the summary: > > Perl 6 Informal Study Sessions > Sundays, starting on April 15 > 10am - Noonish > "Blue Oak Cafe" at the Oakland Museum > 1000 Oak Street (at 10th Street) > near Lake Merritt BART > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/37.79841/-122.26579 > > First reading: > https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell > > And maybe (this comes with the perl6 code): > rakudo-star-2018.01/docs/perl6intro.pdf > > > I want to try something new with the SF Perl group: an informal > series of study sessions focused on perl6. > > My idea is to get together for a few hours on Sunday mornings > over at the Oakland Museum cafe, and start going through one of > the new perl 6 books together (though there's plenty material to > look at at this point). Rather than formal classes I'm thinking > more like hackfest-style with lots of shoulder surfing. > There will be announced readings, but it's up to you how much time > you spend on them before hand. > > For the first gathering, I figure we should start with just this > one web page: > > https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell > > And after that we can start working through the main "course textbook". > My pick for that is the Moritz Lenz book, "Perl 6 Fundamentals", > which has a PDF available for free download: > > https://www.world-of-digitals.com/en/moritz-lenz-perl-6-fundamentals-ebook-pdf > > You can also get a print-on-demand copy from Apress for a little over $30: > > https://www.apress.com/us/book/9781484228982 > > And the code examples from it are on github: > > https://github.com/Apress/perl-6-fundamentals > > For the location, I want to try using the Blue Oak Cafe over at > the Oakland Museum. Despite being on the museum premises, this > is open to the public without paying a museum admission, and it's > right by the Lake Merrit BART station. The coffee is good and > the food is decent, and I think the environment will work out > well. There's no wifi, however, so load-up your laptops in advance. > > In particular, you can install perl6 from: > > https://perl6.org/downloads/ > > Time and date: let's try every Sunday, 10am-Noonish. Let's call > the first one official one April 15th (argh, the ides of > April... but it's always something). > > (Though I'm going to be hanging around there this Sunday as a trial run > if anyone feels like coming by.) From doomvox at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 12:02:36 2018 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:02:36 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Reminder: Perl 6 Study this Sunday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Last Sunday's Perl 6 session was fun-- though we didn't get very deep into things-- and I'm going to try plunging ahead with them, but tweaking the parameters a bit. Next Sunday, April 22nd, it'll be the same place, but let's try meeting in the afternoon, from 1pm to roughly 3pm. For the "assigned reading", I suggest the perl6intro.pdf that ships with the perl6 code-- take a look at that first if you can. You can also find it on the web: http://perl6intro.com/ I still like the idea of using the Moritz Lenz "Perl 6 Fundamentals" book as the main text, but we're not into that yet. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > Just a quick reminder: I'm experimenting with getting folks > together to play around with Perl 6 on Sunday mornings at the > Cafe over in the Oakland Museum. I don't know about you, but I > keep playing around with Perl 6, then putting it aside and > forgetting what I know. I thought doing something like this might > get me over the hump with the language of the future.... > > Perl 6 Informal Study Sessions > Sundays, starting on April 15 > 10am - Noonish > "Blue Oak Cafe" at the Oakland Museum > 1000 Oak Street (at 10th Street) > near Lake Merritt BART > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/37.79841/-122.26579 > > First reading: > https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell > > Supplemental reading: > rakudo-star-2018.01/docs/perl6intro.pdf > (this comes with the perl6 code) > > Part of the idea here though, is that I want to play around with > using this place for gatherings... the cafe is open to the public > without paying a museum admission, it's quiet with lots of table > space, and it's right by a BART station, and taken all together, > that's pretty unusual. > > The meetup page is here: > > https://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl/events/249519961/ > > An RSVP is appreciated, though not at all required, of course-- > and in fact if anyone here felt like working on something else, > or just dropping by to hang-out, that's fine too. > > > > > On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote: >> Okay, to start with the summary: >> >> Perl 6 Informal Study Sessions >> Sundays, starting on April 15 >> 10am - Noonish >> "Blue Oak Cafe" at the Oakland Museum >> 1000 Oak Street (at 10th Street) >> near Lake Merritt BART >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/37.79841/-122.26579 >> >> First reading: >> https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell >> >> And maybe (this comes with the perl6 code): >> rakudo-star-2018.01/docs/perl6intro.pdf >> >> >> I want to try something new with the SF Perl group: an informal >> series of study sessions focused on perl6. >> >> My idea is to get together for a few hours on Sunday mornings >> over at the Oakland Museum cafe, and start going through one of >> the new perl 6 books together (though there's plenty material to >> look at at this point). Rather than formal classes I'm thinking >> more like hackfest-style with lots of shoulder surfing. >> There will be announced readings, but it's up to you how much time >> you spend on them before hand. >> >> For the first gathering, I figure we should start with just this >> one web page: >> >> https://docs.perl6.org/language/5to6-nutshell >> >> And after that we can start working through the main "course textbook". >> My pick for that is the Moritz Lenz book, "Perl 6 Fundamentals", >> which has a PDF available for free download: >> >> https://www.world-of-digitals.com/en/moritz-lenz-perl-6-fundamentals-ebook-pdf >> >> You can also get a print-on-demand copy from Apress for a little over $30: >> >> https://www.apress.com/us/book/9781484228982 >> >> And the code examples from it are on github: >> >> https://github.com/Apress/perl-6-fundamentals >> >> For the location, I want to try using the Blue Oak Cafe over at >> the Oakland Museum. Despite being on the museum premises, this >> is open to the public without paying a museum admission, and it's >> right by the Lake Merrit BART station. The coffee is good and >> the food is decent, and I think the environment will work out >> well. There's no wifi, however, so load-up your laptops in advance. >> >> In particular, you can install perl6 from: >> >> https://perl6.org/downloads/ >> >> Time and date: let's try every Sunday, 10am-Noonish. Let's call >> the first one official one April 15th (argh, the ides of >> April... but it's always something). >> >> (Though I'm going to be hanging around there this Sunday as a trial run >> if anyone feels like coming by.) From doomvox at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 12:25:59 2018 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:25:59 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl 6 Informal Study Session: 1pm Sunday April 22nd, at the Oakland Museum Message-ID: Come one, come all-- an informal perl6 study session (meaning a lot of chatting and shoulder-surfing) at the Oakland Museum's cafe. This one is in the afternoon, at 1pm... Assigned reading: if you can, take a look at the perl6intro.pdf that ships with the perl6 code and is also on the web: http://perl6intro.com/ Cost: Free. Museum admission is not required. Time: 1pm to 3pm (starting with the April 22nd meeting) Where: the Blue Oak Cafe in the Oakland Museum, a block north of the Lake Merritt BART station 1000 Oak Street (at 10th Street) Eventually we'll be using the Moritz Lenz book, "Perl 6 Fundamentals" book as a main text, but we're not into that yet. The cafe does have free wifi, but you'll probably want to at least install perl6 in advance: https://perl6.org/downloads/ From wjm1 at caa.columbia.edu Sun Apr 22 17:25:54 2018 From: wjm1 at caa.columbia.edu (William Michels) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:25:54 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Vim "mode-less" settings... . Message-ID: Hi, at our Meetup today, a user asked how to set up Vim to run in "Insert" mode from the get-go. The easiest way is to turn on the 'insertmode' setting (Boolean, default off). :h insertmode >From Normal mode, "colon" to get to "Ex" mode (also known as 'Command' mode or' Last-line' mode), then: :set nocompatible :set insertmode Check settings with: :set compatible? :set insertmode? Toggle 'insertmode' setting with: :set insertmode! These lines can be added to your .vimrc file. For further information, see StackOverflow below, as well as Steve Losh's excellent site: https://stackoverflow.com/a/11464166 http://learnvimscriptthehardway.stevelosh.com/chapters/02.html Best Regards, Bill. From dpchrist at holgerdanske.com Sun Apr 22 19:09:03 2018 From: dpchrist at holgerdanske.com (David Christensen) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:09:03 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl 6 Informal Study Session: 1pm Sunday April 22nd, at the Oakland Museum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> sanfrancisco-pm: Thank you, Joe, for organizing today's meeting, and Bill for attending. :-) Here are the links to books I mentioned: https://hop.perl.plover.com/ http://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/sicp/index.html https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/program/Brooks-Mythical-Man-Month-The-Essays-on-Software-Engineering-Anniversary-Edition-2nd-Edition/PGM172844.html Here is the function that grows really fast: 2018-04-22 19:03:14 dpchrist at vstretch ~/sandbox/perl $ cat growth sub f { my $n = shift @_; my $r = $n; for (2 .. $n) { $r = $n ** $r; } return $r; } print join ' ', $_, f($_), "\n" for 1 .. 4; 2018-04-22 19:03:27 dpchrist at vstretch ~/sandbox/perl $ perl growth 1 1 2 4 3 7625597484987 4 Inf 2018-04-22 19:03:30 dpchrist at vstretch ~/sandbox/perl $ perl6 growth 1 1 2 4 3 7625597484987 Numeric overflow in sub f at growth line 6 in block at growth line 11 Actually thrown at: in block at growth line 11 David From not.com at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 22:30:36 2018 From: not.com at gmail.com (yary) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 01:30:36 -0400 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl 6 Informal Study Session: 1pm Sunday April 22nd, at the Oakland Museum In-Reply-To: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> References: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: -y On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 10:09 PM, David Christensen < dpchrist at holgerdanske.com> wrote: > > > print join ' ', $_, f($_), "\n" for 1 .. 4; > > > 2018-04-22 19:03:30 dpchrist at vstretch ~/sandbox/perl > $ perl6 growth > 1 1 > 2 4 > 3 7625597484987 > Numeric overflow > in sub f at growth line 6 > in block at growth line 11 > > Actually thrown at: > in block at growth line 11 That looks like a bug- have you reported it? Not that I know where to report/check for bugs... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpchrist at holgerdanske.com Sat Apr 28 10:22:58 2018 From: dpchrist at holgerdanske.com (David Christensen) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:22:58 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] =?utf-8?q?Informal_Session=2C_1=3A00_to_4=3A00_PM_on_S?= =?utf-8?q?unday=2C_April_29=2C_at_the_Blue_Oak_caf=C3=A9_=28Oakland_Museu?= =?utf-8?q?m_of_California=29?= In-Reply-To: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> References: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: <7f728844-d1a3-4c98-aae0-b1c9070babce@holgerdanske.com> sanfrancisco-pm: I'd like to meet for another Informal Session, 1:00 to 4:00 PM on Sunday, April 29 (tomorrow), at the Blue Oak caf? (Oakland Museum of California): http://museumca.org/blue-oak-caf%C3%A9 Is anyone else interested? David From doomvox at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 12:34:18 2018 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 12:34:18 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] =?utf-8?q?Informal_Session=2C_1=3A00_to_4=3A00_PM_on_S?= =?utf-8?q?unday=2C_April_29=2C_at_the_Blue_Oak_caf=C3=A9_=28Oaklan?= =?utf-8?q?d_Museum_of_California=29?= In-Reply-To: <7f728844-d1a3-4c98-aae0-b1c9070babce@holgerdanske.com> References: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> <7f728844-d1a3-4c98-aae0-b1c9070babce@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: Sure, I was planning on being there already. There'll be some other folks there at well. Sorry, I should've posted something here-- I've got the meetup group setup as a recurring event every Sunday... I'm going to keep trying to do it every Sunday at 1pm for the near future. Thus far we've been doing things pretty casually-- perl6 is more-or-less the focus, but as you might expect from geek discussions it's been veering off in various directions (functional programming, set-up issues, perl5, and interestingly-- to me-- the R statistical language...). I'm still asking folks to try to look at the perl6into.pdf that comes with the perl6 code, thought there's also an on-line version: http://perl6intro.com/. Eventually we'll try to dig in a little deeper-- I'm still thinking about getting into the Lenz book. And then there's that suggestion that we might pick a project, even a toy project, that we might work on as a group... that sounds like a discussion topic in itself. On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 10:22 AM, David Christensen wrote: > sanfrancisco-pm: > > I'd like to meet for another Informal Session, 1:00 to 4:00 PM on Sunday, > April 29 (tomorrow), at the Blue Oak caf? (Oakland Museum of California): > > http://museumca.org/blue-oak-caf%C3%A9 > > > Is anyone else interested? > > > David > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. > From doomvox at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 14:04:03 2018 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:04:03 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl 6 Informal Study Session: 1pm Sunday April 22nd, at the Oakland Museum In-Reply-To: References: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure where you think the bug is there, Yary. Do you get that this is supposed to be a function that grows insanely fast? It works like: 2 ^ 2 3 ^ 3 ^ 3 4 ^ 4 ^ 4 ^ 4 5 ^ 5 ^ 5 ^ 5 ^ 5 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 (Heinlein used to say that that was the actual "number of the beast".) The emacs calc package agrees on the value for 3. I'm not sure if it'd call the value for 4 infinity, I wasn't willing to wait for it to finish. In perl6 I might do it like this: for (1 .. 4) -> $i { # line 7 my $r = $i; for (2 .. $i) { $r = $i ** $r; # line 10 } print "$i: $r\n"; # line 12 } Running that it behaves similarly, throwing an overflow error. It's funny that it reports three line numbers, though: 1: 1 2: 4 3: 7625597484987 Numeric overflow in block at /home/doom/End/Cave/Eye/bin/davids_insane_func.pl6 line 10 in block at /home/doom/End/Cave/Eye/bin/davids_insane_func.pl6 line 7 Actually thrown at: in block at /home/doom/End/Cave/Eye/bin/davids_insane_func.pl6 line 12 On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 10:30 PM, yary wrote: > > > -y > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 10:09 PM, David Christensen > wrote: >> >> >> >> print join ' ', $_, f($_), "\n" for 1 .. 4; >> >> >> 2018-04-22 19:03:30 dpchrist at vstretch ~/sandbox/perl >> $ perl6 growth >> 1 1 >> 2 4 >> 3 7625597484987 >> Numeric overflow >> in sub f at growth line 6 >> in block at growth line 11 >> >> Actually thrown at: >> in block at growth line 11 > > > That looks like a bug- have you reported it? Not that I know where to > report/check for bugs... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. > From not.com at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 17:52:56 2018 From: not.com at gmail.com (yary) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 00:52:56 +0000 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl 6 Informal Study Session: 1pm Sunday April 22nd, at the Oakland Museum In-Reply-To: References: <4c51a2b0-7abd-cb74-e97a-a081c56475ee@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: I guess it isn't a bug, overflow error is better than Inf, I just assumed that 4 ^ (4 ^ (4 ^ 4) ) would be still small enough to be in a Num. But it is one of those numbers whose digit count is roughly the universe's atom count. Fast growing functions are fun, every time I read about them, I spend an hour plus in math site & wikipedia rabbit holes reading things I know nothing about. See you tomorrow at the study session! -y On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > I'm not sure where you think the bug is there, Yary. Do you get that > this is supposed to be a function that grows insanely fast? It works > like: > > 2 ^ 2 > 3 ^ 3 ^ 3 > 4 ^ 4 ^ 4 ^ 4 > 5 ^ 5 ^ 5 ^ 5 ^ 5 > 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 ^ 6 > > (Heinlein used to say that that was the actual "number of the beast".) > > The emacs calc package agrees on the value for 3. > I'm not sure if it'd call the value for 4 infinity, I wasn't willing > to wait for it to finish. > > In perl6 I might do it like this: > > for (1 .. 4) -> $i { # line 7 > my $r = $i; > for (2 .. $i) { > $r = $i ** $r; # line 10 > } > print "$i: $r\n"; # line 12 > } > > > Running that it behaves similarly, throwing an overflow error. It's > funny that it reports three line numbers, though: > > 1: 1 > 2: 4 > 3: 7625597484987 > Numeric overflow > in block at /home/doom/End/Cave/Eye/bin/davids_insane_func.pl6 line 10 > in block at /home/doom/End/Cave/Eye/bin/davids_insane_func.pl6 > line 7 > > Actually thrown at: > in block at /home/doom/End/Cave/Eye/bin/davids_insane_func.pl6 > line 12 > > > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 10:30 PM, yary wrote: > > > > > > -y > > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 10:09 PM, David Christensen > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> print join ' ', $_, f($_), "\n" for 1 .. 4; > >> > >> > >> 2018-04-22 19:03:30 dpchrist at vstretch ~/sandbox/perl > >> $ perl6 growth > >> 1 1 > >> 2 4 > >> 3 7625597484987 > >> Numeric overflow > >> in sub f at growth line 6 > >> in block at growth line 11 > >> > >> Actually thrown at: > >> in block at growth line 11 > > > > > > That looks like a bug- have you reported it? 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