From fred at redhotpenguin.com Mon Nov 9 22:14:51 2015 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:14:51 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl 6 Release talk video Message-ID: It's here! https://youtu.be/kwxHXgiLsFE From mark.hedges.data at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 11:31:30 2015 From: mark.hedges.data at gmail.com (Mark Hedges) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:31:30 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] part-time perl work? Message-ID: Hi. I live in L.A. Looking for part-time work in the area or by telecommute. I need more time for writing projects and fitness. P.S. check out Apache2::Controller. Thanks have a nice day. -- Mark Hedges, software engineer Business info: http://formdata.biz/ From hartzell at alerce.com Wed Nov 18 08:32:01 2015 From: hartzell at alerce.com (George Hartzell) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:32:01 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Can I silence experimental warnings in someone else's package? Message-ID: <519A8FC3-5FE8-49D2-B23E-1787D2F1900B@alerce.com> Hi All, I have a project X, that uses a package that's been installed by project Y, e.g. Y::Foo.pm. That package was written in the heady days, just after given/when were introduced and it makes profligate, but safe, use of them. I'm migrating project X forward to the modern era (Perl 5.18.2, sigh...) and Y::Foo's use of given/when generates warnings that, amongst other things, cause the compile tests to fail. I know how to fix the problem "at the source", but I can't get project Y to make an updated release. I can't figure out anything that I can do, in Project X's "using" package, that silences the warnings. At this point my options seem to be to install a private copy of the Y::Foo or to disable the tests (and live with the extra output). Can anyone suggest any other options? g. Sent from a device that makes me type with two fingers. From biztos at mac.com Wed Nov 18 09:46:25 2015 From: biztos at mac.com (Kevin Frost) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:46:25 +0100 Subject: [sf-perl] Can I silence experimental warnings in someone else's package? In-Reply-To: <519A8FC3-5FE8-49D2-B23E-1787D2F1900B@alerce.com> References: <519A8FC3-5FE8-49D2-B23E-1787D2F1900B@alerce.com> Message-ID: <2D2369BD-21F8-4DE6-BC56-A2F1698D33A5@mac.com> Wow, that?s a tricky one. I thought I could get around it by subclassing Y::Foo and using the ?experimentals? module but no luck. http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/experimentals-0.015/lib/experimentals.pm Instead I had to do the evil SIG trick, again with a subclass. That way your Project Y can do whatever they want, as long as they don?t much change Y::Foo on you; and you access it through X::Y::Foo, which looks like this: package X::Y::Foo; use strict; use warnings; BEGIN { local $SIG{'__WARN__'} = sub {}; eval 'use base "Y::Foo";' } 1; At least for me, that works, as in: use strict; use warnings; use Test::More tests => 3; use Test::NoWarnings; use lib qw(.); BEGIN { use_ok('X::Bar'); } is( X::Bar->baz, 'bat', 'drives one batty' ); ?which is, I assume, something like what you?re running, since you said the warnings are causing the build to die. By the way, for the warning-inducing Y::Foo I used this, the familiarity of which is not coincidental: package Y::Foo; use v5.14; my $THING = {}; given ( $ENV{FOO} ) { $THING->{abc} = 1 when /^abc/; $THING->{def} = 1 when /^def/; $THING->{xyz} = 1 when /^xyz/; default { $THING->{nothing} = 1 } } sub bar { return 'bat'; } 1; ?and in the interest of completeness, here?s my X::Bar, the stand-in for whatever actual use Project X makes of Y::Foo and thus the object of my tests: package X::Bar; use strict; use warnings; use X::Y::Foo; sub baz { return X::Y::Foo->bar; } 1; Hope that helps. You probably have to add a bunch of ?no critic? to X::Y::Foo, plus a note of POD explaining to future generations why you did such a thing. If you have a StackOverflow account please consider posting the question there, and I?ll post this answer too, so it might be more findable on the commercial Innernets. cheers ? frosty > On Nov 18, 2015, at 5:32 PM, George Hartzell wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a project X, that uses a package that's been installed by project Y, e.g. Y::Foo.pm. That package was written in the heady days, just after given/when were introduced and it makes profligate, but safe, use of them. I'm migrating project X forward to the modern era (Perl 5.18.2, sigh...) and Y::Foo's use of given/when generates warnings that, amongst other things, cause the compile tests to fail. > > I know how to fix the problem "at the source", but I can't get project Y to make an updated release. > > I can't figure out anything that I can do, in Project X's "using" package, that silences the warnings. > > At this point my options seem to be to install a private copy of the Y::Foo or to disable the tests (and live with the extra output). > > Can anyone suggest any other options? > > g. > > Sent from a device that makes me type with two fingers. > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hartzell at alerce.com Thu Nov 19 08:16:45 2015 From: hartzell at alerce.com (George Hartzell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:16:45 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Can I silence experimental warnings in someone else's package? In-Reply-To: <2D2369BD-21F8-4DE6-BC56-A2F1698D33A5@mac.com> References: <519A8FC3-5FE8-49D2-B23E-1787D2F1900B@alerce.com> <2D2369BD-21F8-4DE6-BC56-A2F1698D33A5@mac.com> Message-ID: <134B30A9-F5E7-4ABF-98C2-37D33E61D3B3@alerce.com> Hi Kevin, Thanks. That "fixed" the problem. I don't have a StackOverflow account, but if you think it's worthwhile, I'll set one up over the weekend and we can do an encore performance. g. Sent from a device that makes me type with two fingers. > On Nov 18, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Kevin Frost wrote: > > Wow, that?s a tricky one. I thought I could get around it by subclassing Y::Foo and using the ?experimentals? module but no luck. > > http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/experimentals-0.015/lib/experimentals.pm > > Instead I had to do the evil SIG trick, again with a subclass. That way your Project Y can do whatever they want, as long as they don?t much change Y::Foo on you; and you access it through X::Y::Foo, which looks like this: > > package X::Y::Foo; > > use strict; > use warnings; > > BEGIN { > > local $SIG{'__WARN__'} = sub {}; > eval 'use base "Y::Foo";' > } > > 1; > > At least for me, that works, as in: > > use strict; > use warnings; > > use Test::More tests => 3; > use Test::NoWarnings; > > use lib qw(.); > > BEGIN { > use_ok('X::Bar'); > } > is( X::Bar->baz, 'bat', 'drives one batty' ); > > ?which is, I assume, something like what you?re running, since you said the warnings are causing the build to die. > > By the way, for the warning-inducing Y::Foo I used this, the familiarity of which is not coincidental: > > package Y::Foo; > > use v5.14; > > my $THING = {}; > > given ( $ENV{FOO} ) { > $THING->{abc} = 1 when /^abc/; > $THING->{def} = 1 when /^def/; > $THING->{xyz} = 1 when /^xyz/; > default { $THING->{nothing} = 1 } > } > > sub bar { return 'bat'; } > > 1; > > ?and in the interest of completeness, here?s my X::Bar, the stand-in for whatever actual use Project X makes of Y::Foo and thus the object of my tests: > > package X::Bar; > > use strict; > use warnings; > > use X::Y::Foo; > > sub baz { return X::Y::Foo->bar; } > > 1; > > Hope that helps. You probably have to add a bunch of ?no critic? to X::Y::Foo, plus a note of POD explaining to future generations why you did such a thing. > > If you have a StackOverflow account please consider posting the question there, and I?ll post this answer too, so it might be more findable on the commercial Innernets. > > cheers > > ? frosty > > >> On Nov 18, 2015, at 5:32 PM, George Hartzell wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have a project X, that uses a package that's been installed by project Y, e.g. Y::Foo.pm. That package was written in the heady days, just after given/when were introduced and it makes profligate, but safe, use of them. I'm migrating project X forward to the modern era (Perl 5.18.2, sigh...) and Y::Foo's use of given/when generates warnings that, amongst other things, cause the compile tests to fail. >> >> I know how to fix the problem "at the source", but I can't get project Y to make an updated release. >> >> I can't figure out anything that I can do, in Project X's "using" package, that silences the warnings. >> >> At this point my options seem to be to install a private copy of the Y::Foo or to disable the tests (and live with the extra output). >> >> Can anyone suggest any other options? >> >> g. >> >> Sent from a device that makes me type with two fingers. >> _______________________________________________ >> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biztos at mac.com Thu Nov 19 11:35:19 2015 From: biztos at mac.com (Kevin Frost) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 20:35:19 +0100 Subject: [sf-perl] Can I silence experimental warnings in someone else's package? In-Reply-To: <134B30A9-F5E7-4ABF-98C2-37D33E61D3B3@alerce.com> References: <519A8FC3-5FE8-49D2-B23E-1787D2F1900B@alerce.com> <2D2369BD-21F8-4DE6-BC56-A2F1698D33A5@mac.com> <134B30A9-F5E7-4ABF-98C2-37D33E61D3B3@alerce.com> Message-ID: <92705F0C-4C45-4F13-A093-43840CD7BB1B@mac.com> No need George, let 'em eat list archive! Cheers -- frosty > On Nov 19, 2015, at 17:16, George Hartzell wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Thanks. That "fixed" the problem. > > I don't have a StackOverflow account, but if you think it's worthwhile, I'll set one up over the weekend and we can do an encore performance. > > g. > > Sent from a device that makes me type with two fingers. > >> On Nov 18, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Kevin Frost wrote: >> >> Wow, that?s a tricky one. I thought I could get around it by subclassing Y::Foo and using the ?experimentals? module but no luck. >> >> http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/experimentals-0.015/lib/experimentals.pm >> >> Instead I had to do the evil SIG trick, again with a subclass. That way your Project Y can do whatever they want, as long as they don?t much change Y::Foo on you; and you access it through X::Y::Foo, which looks like this: >> >> package X::Y::Foo; >> >> use strict; >> use warnings; >> >> BEGIN { >> >> local $SIG{'__WARN__'} = sub {}; >> eval 'use base "Y::Foo";' >> } >> >> 1; >> >> At least for me, that works, as in: >> >> use strict; >> use warnings; >> >> use Test::More tests => 3; >> use Test::NoWarnings; >> >> use lib qw(.); >> >> BEGIN { >> use_ok('X::Bar'); >> } >> is( X::Bar->baz, 'bat', 'drives one batty' ); >> >> ?which is, I assume, something like what you?re running, since you said the warnings are causing the build to die. >> >> By the way, for the warning-inducing Y::Foo I used this, the familiarity of which is not coincidental: >> >> package Y::Foo; >> >> use v5.14; >> >> my $THING = {}; >> >> given ( $ENV{FOO} ) { >> $THING->{abc} = 1 when /^abc/; >> $THING->{def} = 1 when /^def/; >> $THING->{xyz} = 1 when /^xyz/; >> default { $THING->{nothing} = 1 } >> } >> >> sub bar { return 'bat'; } >> >> 1; >> >> ?and in the interest of completeness, here?s my X::Bar, the stand-in for whatever actual use Project X makes of Y::Foo and thus the object of my tests: >> >> package X::Bar; >> >> use strict; >> use warnings; >> >> use X::Y::Foo; >> >> sub baz { return X::Y::Foo->bar; } >> >> 1; >> >> Hope that helps. You probably have to add a bunch of ?no critic? to X::Y::Foo, plus a note of POD explaining to future generations why you did such a thing. >> >> If you have a StackOverflow account please consider posting the question there, and I?ll post this answer too, so it might be more findable on the commercial Innernets. >> >> cheers >> >> ? frosty >> >> >>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 5:32 PM, George Hartzell wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I have a project X, that uses a package that's been installed by project Y, e.g. Y::Foo.pm. That package was written in the heady days, just after given/when were introduced and it makes profligate, but safe, use of them. 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URL: From scott at illogics.org Mon Nov 30 10:19:53 2015 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:19:53 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Hello everyone! Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any meetings scheduled on meetup. If the blocker is finding someone to present, I'd be happy to take that bullet. More likely, the blocker is holiday craziness, in which case I'll see you all next major version. Cheers, -scott From doomvox at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 11:13:44 2015 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:13:44 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Hello everyone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, hollowdaze madness doesn't help, but the first question is what do you feel like talking about, and the second is when are you available? I see that some guy named Joseph Brenner reviewed your book "Perl 6 Now" some years back: http://www.news.slashdot.org/story/05/08/16/0511217/perl-6-now-by-scott-walters On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Scott Walters wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any > meetings scheduled on meetup. If the blocker is finding someone to > present, I'd be happy to take that bullet. More likely, the blocker > is holiday craziness, in which case I'll see you all next major > version. > > Cheers, > -scott > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frimicc at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 11:31:41 2015 From: frimicc at gmail.com (Michael Friedman) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:31:41 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Hello everyone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Silicon Valley Perl is having a meeting on Thursday, if you?re willing to come down to Santa Clara. http://www.meetup.com/SVPerl/events/224563336/ ? Mike Friedman > On Nov 30, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > > Well, hollowdaze madness doesn't help, but the first question is what do you feel like talking about, and the second is when are you available? > > I see that some guy named Joseph Brenner reviewed your book "Perl 6 Now" some years back: > > http://www.news.slashdot.org/story/05/08/16/0511217/perl-6-now-by-scott-walters > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Scott Walters > wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any > meetings scheduled on meetup. If the blocker is finding someone to > present, I'd be happy to take that bullet. More likely, the blocker > is holiday craziness, in which case I'll see you all next major > version. > > Cheers, > -scott > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu . > > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fred at redhotpenguin.com Mon Nov 30 13:41:11 2015 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:41:11 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Hello everyone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is the holiday season, so perhaps we could do our annual-ish holiday social, and bundle this in. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > Well, hollowdaze madness doesn't help, but the first question is what do you > feel like talking about, and the second is when are you available? > > I see that some guy named Joseph Brenner reviewed your book "Perl 6 Now" > some years back: > > http://www.news.slashdot.org/story/05/08/16/0511217/perl-6-now-by-scott-walters > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Scott Walters wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any >> meetings scheduled on meetup. If the blocker is finding someone to >> present, I'd be happy to take that bullet. More likely, the blocker >> is holiday craziness, in which case I'll see you all next major >> version. >> >> Cheers, >> -scott >> _______________________________________________ >> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From doomvox at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 14:04:18 2015 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:04:18 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Hello everyone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depends on when Scott's around, don't you think? I was thinking if he's in town for a few weeks we might do a regular talk type thing some time next week (but not on Dec 9, I hope, I'm going to be at the Rick Prellinger deal at the Castro). On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > It is the holiday season, so perhaps we could do our annual-ish > holiday social, and bundle this in. > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Joseph Brenner > wrote: > > Well, hollowdaze madness doesn't help, but the first question is what do > you > > feel like talking about, and the second is when are you available? > > > > I see that some guy named Joseph Brenner reviewed your book "Perl 6 Now" > > some years back: > > > > > http://www.news.slashdot.org/story/05/08/16/0511217/perl-6-now-by-scott-walters > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Scott Walters > wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any > >> meetings scheduled on meetup. 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Probably won't make it to Silicon Valley before Christmas but good to know about it. Hi Mike! Good to hear from you. Long time since Phoenix.PM. Hi Joseph! Thank you for the review way back then =) Any interest at all is nice. Not to argue, but I think problems with prose and structure had more to do with my lack of experience writing than with haste. Or alternatively, maybe the nth re-write of the chapters became hastily. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing I definitively did right was correctly predict that Perl 6 was a ways off and would change a lot before it came out, and refuse to write a straight up Perl 6 book. Cynicism won that round. Also, I guess my half-baked Perl 6 examples became some of the early Pugs unit tests, which is neat. -s On 11/30/15, Joseph Brenner wrote: > Depends on when Scott's around, don't you think? I was thinking if he's in > town for a few weeks we might do a regular talk type thing some time next > week (but not on Dec 9, I hope, I'm going to be at the Rick Prellinger deal > at the Castro). > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > >> It is the holiday season, so perhaps we could do our annual-ish >> holiday social, and bundle this in. >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Joseph Brenner >> wrote: >> > Well, hollowdaze madness doesn't help, but the first question is what >> > do >> you >> > feel like talking about, and the second is when are you available? >> > >> > I see that some guy named Joseph Brenner reviewed your book "Perl 6 >> > Now" >> > some years back: >> > >> > >> http://www.news.slashdot.org/story/05/08/16/0511217/perl-6-now-by-scott-walters >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Scott Walters >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any >> >> meetings scheduled on meetup. If the blocker is finding someone to >> >> present, I'd be happy to take that bullet. More likely, the blocker >> >> is holiday craziness, in which case I'll see you all next major >> >> version. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> -scott >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> >> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> >> email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> > >> > From extasia at extasia.org Mon Nov 30 15:50:41 2015 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:50:41 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] gpgedit Message-ID: hmmm.... when was the last time *i* sent anything to the list? here is something i put up today. i edit files in my dropbox account, and i like to keep them encrypted while they're there. so i wrote < https://github.com/bizcor/gpgedit>. perhaps you might find it useful. -- Our decisions are the most important things in our lives. *** Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** http://extasia.org/resume/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doomvox at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 20:37:43 2015 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:37:43 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Hello everyone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah, okay, good. No rush on the planning then. (You'd be surprised how many people show up in SF for two days and don't think to contact us until they're already here). I've been thinking that maybe we should try starting off the new year with lightning talks (end of January, early February?)... I thought SNOBOL sounded really cool back when I was a young fool reading about computer languages I had no access to... though I have a feeling perl4 was more like SNOBOL than perl5. > Not to argue, but I think problems with prose and structure had more > to do with my lack of experience writing than with haste. I think a real professional would blame it on the copy editors. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Scott Walters wrote: > I'm in Phoenix over Christmas but haven't booked Amtrak yet. I should > be here until Dec 21st. Then I'll be back again some time after > Christmas, and likely vaguely around for a year or two. How's that > for vague plans? > > As for topics, I like to offer a menu. I did an Everything Perl Has, > It Stole From SNOBOL talk for Frozen Perl a while back. It's half > serious and hasn't been done outside of there. I have a joke > Lightning Talk I haven't given yet (wasn't approved), More Continuous > than Continuous Integration. I'm always grateful for a chance to > re-attempt a talk I butchered, such as Building Applications using > WebGUI 8 as an Application Framework (or whatever its actual title > was) or Perl Games. I could also talk about the tech behind the Tempe > Bike Count and related research. > > Probably won't make it to Silicon Valley before Christmas but good to > know about it. > > Hi Mike! Good to hear from you. Long time since Phoenix.PM. > > Hi Joseph! Thank you for the review way back then =) Any interest at > all is nice. > > Not to argue, but I think problems with prose and structure had more > to do with my lack of experience writing than with haste. Or > alternatively, maybe the nth re-write of the chapters became hastily. > As far as I'm concerned, the only thing I definitively did right was > correctly predict that Perl 6 was a ways off and would change a lot > before it came out, and refuse to write a straight up Perl 6 book. > Cynicism won that round. Also, I guess my half-baked Perl 6 examples > became some of the early Pugs unit tests, which is neat. > > -s > > > On 11/30/15, Joseph Brenner wrote: > > Depends on when Scott's around, don't you think? I was thinking if he's > in > > town for a few weeks we might do a regular talk type thing some time next > > week (but not on Dec 9, I hope, I'm going to be at the Rick Prellinger > deal > > at the Castro). > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Fred Moyer > wrote: > > > >> It is the holiday season, so perhaps we could do our annual-ish > >> holiday social, and bundle this in. > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Joseph Brenner > >> wrote: > >> > Well, hollowdaze madness doesn't help, but the first question is what > >> > do > >> you > >> > feel like talking about, and the second is when are you available? > >> > > >> > I see that some guy named Joseph Brenner reviewed your book "Perl 6 > >> > Now" > >> > some years back: > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.news.slashdot.org/story/05/08/16/0511217/perl-6-now-by-scott-walters > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Scott Walters > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi everyone, > >> >> > >> >> I'm in town for a while so I thought I'd say hi. I don't see any > >> >> meetings scheduled on meetup. If the blocker is finding someone to > >> >> present, I'd be happy to take that bullet. More likely, the blocker > >> >> is holiday craziness, in which case I'll see you all next major > >> >> version. > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> -scott > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > >> >> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > >> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups > >> >> "Vanity Alias - Joe Brenner" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> an > >> >> email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > >> > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > >> > > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: