From russt at releasetools.org Thu Nov 14 23:51:16 2013 From: russt at releasetools.org (Russ Tremain) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:51:16 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] [webinar] russ's Git Fusion web show Tuesday 11am Message-ID: Hi, Speaking of Git, I'm hosting a 30 minute webinar next Tuesday at 11:00 am PST, on how to use Perforce Git Fusion to break-up bloated Git repositories into smaller functional views. I will use my Cado open-source project as an example, and break it up into multiple views for dev, qa, docs, etc. (Cado is an easily extended, Perl-based code-generation language, that I originally wrote to generate large Java class hierarchies). Best of all, you can do it for free! Last year, I did a Subversion->Git conversion and remapping for the OpenWSN project at Berkeley EECS, and it was a nightmare. At that time, Git Fusion did not exist, but it is now in stable production. Wish it had been around back then.. Here is where you can sign up: http://info.perforce.com/US_2013Q4_Webinar-Dev-Talk-Git-Hell-REGISTER.html You can sign up now and listen later if you like. cheers, -Russ P.S. if you are being faced with an SCM conversion project, let me know, as I've done a few of them, and can probably recommend some tools. Disclaimer: I now work at Perforce. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Mon Nov 18 08:23:31 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:23:31 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] December Social! Message-ID: <528A3F03.3030204@vmbrasseur.com> I've been mentioning it in meetings for the past couple of months. Finally, it materializes on the calendar. Come on down to Naan-N-Curry on O'Farrell on DECEMBER 12TH to chat and nosh with your fellow Perl Mongers. Bring your friends! Bring your family! Bring your coworkers! It'll be good fun. For more information or to RSVP, check out the event on Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/events/151506622/ See you all very soon! --V @vmbrasseur http://vmbrasseur.com From extasia at extasia.org Wed Nov 20 10:15:00 2013 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:15:00 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] json and xs Message-ID: i installed JSON to get very basic json capabilities. we install non-core modules on a network attached storage device, and so they're usable by multiple hosts. i'm trying to update a homegrown module in production that we've been using in qa for a while. it uses JSON and because of JSON::XS it is incompatible with some of the prod hosts that mount the filesystem containing our non-core modules. i suppose the best thing to do would be to reinstall JSON on our production nas (rather than simply rsyncing from the qa nas to the prod nas. i wonder why JSON depends on an architecture specific module. isn't it just text processing? perhaps it's a matter of optimization. thanks, david -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** Rule of law isn't for everyone. http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Justice-Some-Equality-Powerful/dp/0805092056 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at fetter.org Wed Nov 20 10:31:45 2013 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:31:45 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] json and xs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20131120183145.GA30206@fetter.org> JSON::XS is there because it turns out that even with a "simple" format like JSON, processing it is complex and takes a lot of CPU. How much work is it to get JSON::XS deployed to prod? Cheers, David. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:15:00AM -0800, David Alban wrote: > i installed JSON to get very basic json capabilities. we install non-core > modules on a network attached storage device, and so they're usable by > multiple hosts. > > i'm trying to update a homegrown module in production that we've been using > in qa for a while. it uses JSON and because of JSON::XS it is incompatible > with some of the prod hosts that mount the filesystem containing our > non-core modules. > > i suppose the best thing to do would be to reinstall JSON on our production > nas (rather than simply rsyncing from the qa nas to the prod nas. > > i wonder why JSON depends on an architecture specific module. isn't it > just text processing? perhaps it's a matter of optimization. > > thanks, > david > -- > Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. > *** > Rule of law isn't for everyone. > http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Justice-Some-Equality-Powerful/dp/0805092056 > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter at gmail.com iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From extasia at extasia.org Wed Nov 20 10:36:58 2013 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:36:58 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] json and xs In-Reply-To: <20131120183145.GA30206@fetter.org> References: <20131120183145.GA30206@fetter.org> Message-ID: thanks david. i'm playing around with -I now. i may be getting somewhere with including .../lib/perl/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi so maybe i don't need to reinstall... On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:31 AM, David Fetter wrote: > JSON::XS is there because it turns out that even with a "simple" > format like JSON, processing it is complex and takes a lot of CPU. > How much work is it to get JSON::XS deployed to prod? > > Cheers, > David. > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:15:00AM -0800, David Alban wrote: > > i installed JSON to get very basic json capabilities. we install > non-core > > modules on a network attached storage device, and so they're usable by > > multiple hosts. > > > > i'm trying to update a homegrown module in production that we've been > using > > in qa for a while. it uses JSON and because of JSON::XS it is > incompatible > > with some of the prod hosts that mount the filesystem containing our > > non-core modules. > > > > i suppose the best thing to do would be to reinstall JSON on our > production > > nas (rather than simply rsyncing from the qa nas to the prod nas. > > > > i wonder why JSON depends on an architecture specific module. isn't it > > just text processing? perhaps it's a matter of optimization. > > > > thanks, > > david > > -- > > Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. > > *** > > Rule of law isn't for everyone. > > > http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Justice-Some-Equality-Powerful/dp/0805092056 > > > _______________________________________________ > > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > > -- > David Fetter http://fetter.org/ > Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter > Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter at gmail.com > iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics > > Remember to vote! > Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** Rule of law isn't for everyone. http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Justice-Some-Equality-Powerful/dp/0805092056 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fred at redhotpenguin.com Wed Nov 20 22:50:26 2013 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:50:26 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Pictures from tonight's meeting Message-ID: Here are a few pictures from tonight's meeting. A lot of new faces, but some that have been around, and that we'll be seeing more of. https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403363826101268480 https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403373985838014466 https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403387481388613632 From fred at redhotpenguin.com Wed Nov 20 22:51:44 2013 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:51:44 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Pictures from tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One more of Jeff Thalhammer talking about stratopan.com https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403374706100678656 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > Here are a few pictures from tonight's meeting. A lot of new faces, > but some that have been around, and that we'll be seeing more of. > > https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403363826101268480 > > https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403373985838014466 > > https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403387481388613632 From doomvox at gmail.com Thu Nov 21 09:02:58 2013 From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:02:58 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Pictures from tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh man, I can't believe I missed Larry. Caltrain was a real mess last night... On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > Here are a few pictures from tonight's meeting. A lot of new faces, > but some that have been around, and that we'll be seeing more of. > > https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403363826101268480 > > https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403373985838014466 > > https://twitter.com/sfperlmongers/status/403387481388613632 > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to doom+unsubscribe at kzsu.stanford.edu. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at illywhacker.net Thu Nov 21 16:55:03 2013 From: andrew at illywhacker.net (Andrew Solomon) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 00:55:03 +0000 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Website Survey Message-ID: Hello from London! I'm running a survey to see where Perl's at as a web development language in 2013. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5KDVMRY For the context read below, but I'll be putting together results for everyone to view (names and email addresses won't be published). Thanks in advance, Andrew --- Hello London Perl Mongers For the third year running I'll be giving the Dancer class at LPW http://act.yapc.eu/lpw2013/talk/5030 This year it'll be 4 hours working with Dancer2 where the students will (hopefully) implement one of these: http://art.geekuni.com/ (and if not, they will at least have grokked my sense of humour.) More seriously though, one thing I haven't been able to tell them is the extent to which learning a modern Perl web framework will position them to find a job. I know Perl is still the duct tape holding together the Internet, but to what extent is it used for implementing websites these days? If you could fill this in: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5KDVMRY with Perl sites you know of, I'll publish the results. (Fill it in multiple times if necessary, once for each company) Thanks for your help! Andrew p.s I plan to send this to sanfrancisco-pm at pm.org, sydney-pm at pm.org and the LinkedIn Perl group. Please forward this on to any relevant lists/groups I've missed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From not.com at gmail.com Fri Nov 22 05:14:34 2013 From: not.com at gmail.com (yary) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:14:34 -0500 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Website Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Andrew Solomon wrote: > Hello from London! > > I'm running a survey to see where Perl's at as a web development language in > 2013. > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5KDVMRY > > For the context read below, but I'll be putting together results for > everyone to view (names and email addresses won't be published). > ... [context after the break] I'm forwarding your "tell me about public websites built in perl" survey to the NYC Perl M[ou]nger's list. Also this just scrolled thru my twitter feed, seems relevant: http://www.builtinperl.com/ - they want to know of web startups built in perl, and have a pretty site to showcase them Remind your students that websites with public URL's is the tip of the iceberg- I spent seven years at Lucasfilm writing/expanding an intranet website app in Perl to manage their licensing contracts & royalty invoicing, as part of a small team that did a number of related sites- their business relies heavily on Perl & SQL. (Alas I did not work on the public-facing starwars.com and I never asked if they used Perl for that.) -y On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Andrew Solomon wrote: > ... > Hello London Perl Mongers > > For the third year running I'll be giving the Dancer class at LPW > > http://act.yapc.eu/lpw2013/talk/5030 > > This year it'll be 4 hours working with Dancer2 where the students > will (hopefully) implement one of these: > > http://art.geekuni.com/ > > (and if not, they will at least have grokked my sense of humour.) > > More seriously though, one thing I haven't been able to tell them is > the extent to which learning a modern Perl web framework will position > them to find a job. I know Perl is still the duct tape holding > together the Internet, but to what extent is it used for > implementing websites these days? > > If you could fill this in: > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5KDVMRY > > with Perl sites you know of, I'll publish the results. > (Fill it in multiple times if necessary, once for each company) > > Thanks for your help! > > Andrew > > p.s I plan to send this to sanfrancisco-pm at pm.org, sydney-pm at pm.org > and the LinkedIn Perl group. Please forward this on to any relevant > lists/groups I've missed. > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Fri Nov 22 07:40:59 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:40:59 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Website Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <528F7B0B.8020904@vmbrasseur.com> On 11/22/2013, 05:14 , yary wrote: > I'm forwarding your "tell me about public websites built in perl" > survey to the NYC Perl M[ou]nger's list. Also this just scrolled thru > my twitter feed, seems relevant: > > http://www.builtinperl.com/ - they want to know of web startups built > in perl, and have a pretty site to showcase them Cf.: https://github.com/vmbrasseur/Perl_Companies From andrew at illywhacker.net Fri Nov 22 08:21:50 2013 From: andrew at illywhacker.net (Andrew Solomon) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:21:50 +0000 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Website Survey In-Reply-To: <528F7B0B.8020904@vmbrasseur.com> References: <528F7B0B.8020904@vmbrasseur.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM, VM Brasseur wrote: > On 11/22/2013, 05:14 , yary wrote: >> >> I'm forwarding your "tell me about public websites built in perl" >> survey to the NYC Perl M[ou]nger's list. Also this just scrolled thru >> my twitter feed, seems relevant: >> >> http://www.builtinperl.com/ - they want to know of web startups built >> in perl, and have a pretty site to showcase them > > > Cf.: https://github.com/vmbrasseur/Perl_Companies > Thanks - I didn't know about either of those links. Re: https://github.com/vmbrasseur/Perl_Companies I'm getting slightly different data - but would it be ok for me to add it in to that repo? From jeff at stratopan.com Fri Nov 22 10:20:00 2013 From: jeff at stratopan.com (Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:20:00 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Website Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well done, Andrew! I look forward to seeing the survey results. And while we're on the topic of publicity, I just wanted to remind everyone about the Perl Companies Database: https://github.com/vmbrasseur/Perl_Companies I think this could be a great marketing tool for the community. And there are some really interesting possibilities for data exploration and visualization in there. -Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Thu Nov 28 06:47:26 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 06:47:26 -0800 Subject: [sf-perl] Video/Slides posted for last week's presentation Message-ID: <5297577E.2060507@vmbrasseur.com> [ Apologies for the delay. There were some technical difficulties with the upload. ] If you missed Friedo's presentation on getting started with MongoDB using Perl, you can now watch it on our Internet Archive collection: https://archive.org/details/mikefriedmanbuildingyourfirstappwithmongodbandperl The slides are also available at that link. For those who didn't hear, Larry made a surprise appearance at this meeting. He was kind enough to pop on camera at the end of the meeting and tell us more about what he'll be doing at craigslist. This is included on the video.