From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com  Mon Jul 15 11:05:53 2013
From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:05:53 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] What CPAN modules do we maintain/contribute to?
Message-ID: <51E43A01.8080304@vmbrasseur.com>

I was on the phone with a Perl friend last week and the topic of CPAN 
came up. He asked what modules we in SF.pm maintained. I confess, aside 
from Jeff Thalhamer's Pinto I had no idea.

So, hey, fun roll call! Sound off here to let us all know what module(s) 
you maintain or to which you contribute.

--VM
   @vmbrasseur

From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Tue Jul 16 10:09:33 2013
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:09:33 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] What CPAN modules do we maintain/contribute to?
In-Reply-To: <51E43A01.8080304@vmbrasseur.com>
References: <51E43A01.8080304@vmbrasseur.com>
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:05 AM, VM Brasseur <sfpm at vmbrasseur.com> wrote:
> I was on the phone with a Perl friend last week and the topic of CPAN came
> up. He asked what modules we in SF.pm maintained. I confess, aside from Jeff
> Thalhamer's Pinto I had no idea.
>
> So, hey, fun roll call! Sound off here to let us all know what module(s) you
> maintain or to which you contribute.

I help maintain mod_perl, SOAP::Lite, String::Strip, WWW::Salesforce,
WebService::Yahoo (author), Class::Factory, Class::DBI::Sweet,
Business::PayPal, Any::URI::Escape (author), and a number of other
modules nobody has probably heard of.

From doomvox at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 10:28:18 2013
From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:28:18 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] What CPAN modules do we maintain/contribute to?
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Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com> wrote:

> VM Brasseur <sfpm at vmbrasseur.com> wrote:
> > I was on the phone with a Perl friend last week and the topic of CPAN
> came
> > up. He asked what modules we in SF.pm maintained. I confess, aside from
> Jeff
> > Thalhamer's Pinto I had no idea.
> >
> > So, hey, fun roll call! Sound off here to let us all know what module(s)
> you
> > maintain or to which you contribute.
>
> I help maintain mod_perl, SOAP::Lite, String::Strip, WWW::Salesforce,
> WebService::Yahoo (author), Class::Factory, Class::DBI::Sweet,
> Business::PayPal, Any::URI::Escape (author), and a number of other
> modules nobody has probably heard of.
>
>
I've got a bunch of attempts on CPAN, but the one people actually seem to
use is the small Text::Capitalize module (which does title casing).
Similarly David Muir Sharnoff has quite a bit of good work on CPAN, but he
mentioned to me his Text::Wrap seems to be one of the more widely used.
(I think there's a lesson here for potential module-authors...).

Getting something like a comprehensive list of CPAN stuff SF Perl people
have worked on would be tricky because the boundaries of the group are a
bit fuzzy.
Do you include Tatsuhiko Miyagawa?  Jeremy Zawodny?
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From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com  Mon Jul 22 14:33:37 2013
From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:33:37 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] We now have a Facebook page!
Message-ID: <51EDA531.5000602@vmbrasseur.com>

Some of you will love this.

Some of you will hate this.

Thankfully we recognize that we can't please all of the people all of 
the time, but perhaps if we cover enough bases we can please MOST of the 
people MOST of the time. That's the goal here.

If you're active on Facebook, please Like the page! Once we get 30 Likes 
we can start seeing stats, which will help we admins tweak our outreach 
there to help as many people as possible find happiness in Perl.

https://www.facebook.com/SanFranciscoPerlMongers

--V @vmbrasseur

From saillinux at gmail.com  Mon Jul 22 14:59:12 2013
From: saillinux at gmail.com (Hee Won Kim)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:59:12 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] We now have a Facebook page!
In-Reply-To: <51EDA531.5000602@vmbrasseur.com>
References: <51EDA531.5000602@vmbrasseur.com>
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Thanks for doing this as a facebook employee I have some FB Ad credits so
started advertising SF perl monger pages for a month to gain more likes. I
hope it helps!


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM, VM Brasseur <sfpm at vmbrasseur.com> wrote:

> Some of you will love this.
>
> Some of you will hate this.
>
> Thankfully we recognize that we can't please all of the people all of the
> time, but perhaps if we cover enough bases we can please MOST of the people
> MOST of the time. That's the goal here.
>
> If you're active on Facebook, please Like the page! Once we get 30 Likes
> we can start seeing stats, which will help we admins tweak our outreach
> there to help as many people as possible find happiness in Perl.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/**SanFranciscoPerlMongers<https://www.facebook.com/SanFranciscoPerlMongers>
>
> --V @vmbrasseur
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From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com  Tue Jul 23 09:21:25 2013
From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:21:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] We now have a Facebook page!
In-Reply-To: <CAHT3g4b+-1mGmuFLE_tHs1gULFPc+hGRTHHPLCbCmGg-MuCg7g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <51EEAD85.6030704@vmbrasseur.com>

Wow, thank you! That's remarkably generous and helpful.

We're now over our 30 Like threshold. Achievement unlocked: we can now
see page statistics.

Now, as the community, what would you most like to see on this page? We
already will be doing our best to cross-post meetings as events here. Is
there anything else which you'd like?

On 07/22/2013 14:59 , Hee Won Kim wrote:
> Thanks for doing this as a facebook employee I have some FB Ad credits 
> so started advertising SF perl monger pages for a month to gain more 
> likes. I hope it helps!
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM, VM Brasseur <sfpm at vmbrasseur.com 
> <mailto:sfpm at vmbrasseur.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Some of you will love this.
> 
>     Some of you will hate this.
> 
>     Thankfully we recognize that we can't please all of the people all
>     of the time, but perhaps if we cover enough bases we can please MOST
>     of the people MOST of the time. That's the goal here.
> 
>     If you're active on Facebook, please Like the page! Once we get 30
>     Likes we can start seeing stats, which will help we admins tweak our
>     outreach there to help as many people as possible find happiness in
>     Perl.
> 
>     https://www.facebook.com/__SanFranciscoPerlMongers
>     <https://www.facebook.com/SanFranciscoPerlMongers>
> 
>     --V @vmbrasseur
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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From gatorreina at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 09:42:40 2013
From: gatorreina at gmail.com (Richard Reina)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:42:40 -0500
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
Message-ID: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

my $string = 'The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly';

my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;

print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";


GIVES ME:

Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
test_split.pl line 7.
Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
Second thru last element: The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly

From rjray at blackperl.com  Wed Jul 24 09:50:05 2013
From: rjray at blackperl.com (Randy J. Ray)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:50:05 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>

On 07/24/2013 09:42 AM, Richard Reina wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>
> my $string = 'The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly';
>
> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>
> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>
>
> GIVES ME:
>
> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
> test_split.pl line 7.
> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
> Second thru last element: The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly

You need to put the declaration of $string in double-quotes. Right now, 
you are creating a string with literal "\" + "n" sequences in it, not 
newlines. And when you are trying to split, the regexp is looking for 
newlines. As a result, @str only has one element, the whole of $string. 
Thus, $str[1] is undefined (and $#str is 0, making your range go down 
instead of up, which yields a non-numeric value for the index, which 
causes the warning).

Randy
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rjray at blackperl.com

Silicon Valley Scale Modelers: http://www.svsm.org

From fobispo at isc.org  Wed Jul 24 09:53:25 2013
From: fobispo at isc.org (Francisco Obispo)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:53:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
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Message-ID: <9BBF6340-8E8A-4B97-A49F-FF3D75BFCF7C@isc.org>

Is this what you intended?

#!/usr/bin/env perl

my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";

my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;

print "Second thru last element: " . join(", ", at str[1..$#str]) . "\n";


Look at the double quotes on "my $string", don't use a string literal.

And look at the last line, using a slice of @str.



On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Richard Reina <gatorreina at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> 
> my $string = 'The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly';
> 
> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
> 
> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
> 
> 
> GIVES ME:
> 
> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
> test_split.pl line 7.
> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
> Second thru last element: The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly
> _______________________________________________
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From gatorreina at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 10:12:59 2013
From: gatorreina at gmail.com (Richard Reina)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:12:59 -0500
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
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Sorry I'm still confused.  I get the same thing when I put string in
double quotes.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";

my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;

print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";

OUTPUT:

perl test_split.pl
Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
test_split.pl line 7.
Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
Second thru last element: The good

2013/7/24, Randy J. Ray <rjray at blackperl.com>:
> On 07/24/2013 09:42 AM, Richard Reina wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>>
>> my $string = 'The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly';
>>
>> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>>
>> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>>
>>
>> GIVES ME:
>>
>> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
>> test_split.pl line 7.
>> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
>> Second thru last element: The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly
>
> You need to put the declaration of $string in double-quotes. Right now,
> you are creating a string with literal "\" + "n" sequences in it, not
> newlines. And when you are trying to split, the regexp is looking for
> newlines. As a result, @str only has one element, the whole of $string.
> Thus, $str[1] is undefined (and $#str is 0, making your range go down
> instead of up, which yields a non-numeric value for the index, which
> causes the warning).
>
> Randy
> --
> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> Randy J. Ray      Sunnyvale, CA      http://www.rjray.org
> rjray at blackperl.com
>
> Silicon Valley Scale Modelers: http://www.svsm.org
>

From fobispo at isc.org  Wed Jul 24 10:15:17 2013
From: fobispo at isc.org (Francisco Obispo)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:15:17 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B5D80CC2-DF44-4F0D-B5D2-49E4CB167645@isc.org>

What do you expect the result of this line to be?

On Jul 24, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Richard Reina <gatorreina at gmail.com> wrote:

> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";

Francisco Obispo 
Director of Applications and Services - ISC
email: fobispo at isc.org
Phone: +1 650 423 1374 || INOC-DBA *3557* NOC
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From frimicc at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 10:19:25 2013
From: frimicc at gmail.com (Michael Friedman)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:19:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <B5D80CC2-DF44-4F0D-B5D2-49E4CB167645@isc.org>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
	<CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B5D80CC2-DF44-4F0D-B5D2-49E4CB167645@isc.org>
Message-ID: <024F2FB2-2845-49E1-95FB-1A8B2EE92AE2@gmail.com>

Try this last line (slices require @):

print "Second thru last: " . join(', ', @str[1..$#str]) . "\n";

-- Mike Friedman

On Jul 24, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Francisco Obispo <fobispo at isc.org> wrote:

> What do you expect the result of this line to be?
> 
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Richard Reina <gatorreina at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
> 
> Francisco Obispo 
> Director of Applications and Services - ISC
> email: fobispo at isc.org
> Phone: +1 650 423 1374 || INOC-DBA *3557* NOC
> PGP KeyID = B38DB1BE
> 
> 
> 
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From rjray at blackperl.com  Wed Jul 24 10:21:05 2013
From: rjray at blackperl.com (Randy J. Ray)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:21:05 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
	<CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51F00D01.5020301@blackperl.com>

On 07/24/2013 10:12 AM, Richard Reina wrote:
> Sorry I'm still confused.  I get the same thing when I put string in
> double quotes.
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>
> my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";
>
> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>
> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>
> OUTPUT:
>
> perl test_split.pl
> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
> test_split.pl line 7.
> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
> Second thru last element: The good

Oops, my bad. I didn't notice that you aren't really getting an array 
slice on the last line. That needs to be:

print "Second thru last element: " . @str[1..$#str] . "\n";

Note the "@" before str.

Randy
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rjray at blackperl.com

Silicon Valley Scale Modelers: http://www.svsm.org

From sean at mckennaprod.com  Wed Jul 24 11:21:31 2013
From: sean at mckennaprod.com (Sean McKenna)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:21:31 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <51F00D01.5020301@blackperl.com>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
	<CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F00D01.5020301@blackperl.com>
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I think that the @str[1..$#str] also needs to be double quoted
otherwise you get a Use of uninitialized value in concatenation error.

At least in my version 5.12

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";

my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;

print "Second thru last element: " . "@str[1..$#str]" . "\n";

This works for me

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Randy J. Ray <rjray at blackperl.com> wrote:
> On 07/24/2013 10:12 AM, Richard Reina wrote:
>>
>> Sorry I'm still confused.  I get the same thing when I put string in
>> double quotes.
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>>
>> my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";
>>
>> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>>
>> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>>
>> OUTPUT:
>>
>> perl test_split.pl
>> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
>> test_split.pl line 7.
>> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
>> Second thru last element: The good
>
>
> Oops, my bad. I didn't notice that you aren't really getting an array slice
> on the last line. That needs to be:
>
> print "Second thru last element: " . @str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>
> Note the "@" before str.
>
>
> Randy
> --
> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> Randy J. Ray      Sunnyvale, CA      http://www.rjray.org
> rjray at blackperl.com
>
> Silicon Valley Scale Modelers: http://www.svsm.org
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From rdacker at comcast.net  Wed Jul 24 11:33:18 2013
From: rdacker at comcast.net (ackerman dudley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:33:18 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
In-Reply-To: <CAMxHHFT0qHT7JW1Fy+crQxkYQP1TzhOAod_dQR3dVkhc0YFEow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
	<CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F00D01.5020301@blackperl.com>
	<CAMxHHFT0qHT7JW1Fy+crQxkYQP1TzhOAod_dQR3dVkhc0YFEow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91BB0F3E-1EF5-49B2-8ADE-959026347328@comcast.net>

and of course, it doesn't even have to be created as a separate string:
...
print "Second thru last element:  @str[1..$#str]\n";

On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Sean McKenna <sean at mckennaprod.com> wrote:

> I think that the @str[1..$#str] also needs to be double quoted
> otherwise you get a Use of uninitialized value in concatenation error.
> 
> At least in my version 5.12
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> 
> my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";
> 
> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
> 
> print "Second thru last element: " . "@str[1..$#str]" . "\n";
> 
> This works for me
> 
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Randy J. Ray <rjray at blackperl.com> wrote:
>> On 07/24/2013 10:12 AM, Richard Reina wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry I'm still confused.  I get the same thing when I put string in
>>> double quotes.
>>> 
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>>> 
>>> my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";
>>> 
>>> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>>> 
>>> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>>> 
>>> OUTPUT:
>>> 
>>> perl test_split.pl
>>> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
>>> test_split.pl line 7.
>>> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
>>> Second thru last element: The good
>> 
>> 
>> Oops, my bad. I didn't notice that you aren't really getting an array slice
>> on the last line. That needs to be:
>> 
>> print "Second thru last element: " . @str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>> 
>> Note the "@" before str.
>> 
>> 
>> Randy
>> --
>> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>> Randy J. Ray      Sunnyvale, CA      http://www.rjray.org
>> rjray at blackperl.com
>> 
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From gatorreina at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 13:42:42 2013
From: gatorreina at gmail.com (Richard Reina)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:42:42 -0500
Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone know why won't this work?
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References: <CAKLxnzbR=UnHx_fd1UkX+J2CdFnXj7u20uT9+-RsBozkz83jnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F005BD.3010205@blackperl.com>
	<CAKLxnzZepPKQkhN6TJid5jekxKRe6zFx67p5jjQvU7B6RAvXsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<51F00D01.5020301@blackperl.com>
	<CAMxHHFT0qHT7JW1Fy+crQxkYQP1TzhOAod_dQR3dVkhc0YFEow@mail.gmail.com>
	<91BB0F3E-1EF5-49B2-8ADE-959026347328@comcast.net>
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Thank you all for helping me figure that out.  I really appreciate it.


2013/7/24, ackerman dudley <rdacker at comcast.net>:
> and of course, it doesn't even have to be created as a separate string:
> ...
> print "Second thru last element:  @str[1..$#str]\n";
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Sean McKenna <sean at mckennaprod.com> wrote:
>
>> I think that the @str[1..$#str] also needs to be double quoted
>> otherwise you get a Use of uninitialized value in concatenation error.
>>
>> At least in my version 5.12
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>>
>> my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";
>>
>> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>>
>> print "Second thru last element: " . "@str[1..$#str]" . "\n";
>>
>> This works for me
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Randy J. Ray <rjray at blackperl.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 07/24/2013 10:12 AM, Richard Reina wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I'm still confused.  I get the same thing when I put string in
>>>> double quotes.
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>>>>
>>>> my $string = "The good\n\nThe bad\n\nThe Ugly";
>>>>
>>>> my @str = split /\n\n/, $string;
>>>>
>>>> print "Second thru last element: " . $str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>>>>
>>>> OUTPUT:
>>>>
>>>> perl test_split.pl
>>>> Use of uninitialized value within @str in range (or flip) at
>>>> test_split.pl line 7.
>>>> Argument "" isn't numeric in array element at test_split.pl line 7.
>>>> Second thru last element: The good
>>>
>>>
>>> Oops, my bad. I didn't notice that you aren't really getting an array
>>> slice
>>> on the last line. That needs to be:
>>>
>>> print "Second thru last element: " . @str[1..$#str] . "\n";
>>>
>>> Note the "@" before str.
>>>
>>>
>>> Randy
>>> --
>>> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>> Randy J. Ray      Sunnyvale, CA      http://www.rjray.org
>>> rjray at blackperl.com
>>>
>>> Silicon Valley Scale Modelers: http://www.svsm.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
>>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>> _______________________________________________
>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>
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>

From jeff at imaginative-software.com  Thu Jul 25 06:54:27 2013
From: jeff at imaginative-software.com (Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 06:54:27 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] (video) Stratopan "Stratocast": Searching Your Repository
Message-ID: <E2954AA2-4079-425E-9530-C6E68F0FCB33@imaginative-software.com>

Hi everyone-

Those of you who have been following my work on Stratopan will enjoy this (and even if you haven't)...

This is my first screencast about Stratopan.  This shows the real-time search feature, so you can quickly find all the Perl modules in your repository.

http://blog.stratopan.com/2013/07/stratocast-searching-your-repository/

You can hear the fan in my poor MacBook cranking up as I go along.  I think next time I'll be a little less stodgy.

Don't forget to sign up for the beta at http://stratopan.com.  There's only a few weeks left to get on board.

Cheers,

-Jeff

From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Tue Jul 30 13:24:20 2013
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:24:20 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] New Co-Organizer for SF.pm
Message-ID: <CAHrynWA+D5M18B7B58vF2gH4TQ7Rm=9aLPXQHY+JF49PGSAk1Q@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I'm pleased to announce that VM Brasseur is now an official
Co-Organizer for San Francisco Perl Mongers, with an official title of
'Nerd Whisperer'.

I wanted to say a big 'thanks!' to her for organizing the previous
Perl 5i meeting.

From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com  Tue Jul 30 13:33:13 2013
From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:33:13 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] New Co-Organizer for SF.pm
In-Reply-To: <CAHrynWA+D5M18B7B58vF2gH4TQ7Rm=9aLPXQHY+JF49PGSAk1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrynWA+D5M18B7B58vF2gH4TQ7Rm=9aLPXQHY+JF49PGSAk1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51F82309.4040206@vmbrasseur.com>

On 07/30/2013 13:24 , Fred Moyer wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce that VM Brasseur is now an official
> Co-Organizer for San Francisco Perl Mongers, with an official title of
> 'Nerd Whisperer'.

Hi, all! And thanks for the intro, Fred!

> I wanted to say a big 'thanks!' to her for organizing the previous
> Perl 5i meeting.

My pleasure! Schwern had a great time, BTW, and asked me to remind 
everyone that perl5i contributions (documentation, examples, code, bug 
reports, you name it) are always welcome: https://github.com/schwern/perl5i

--V

From quinn at pgexperts.com  Tue Jul 30 13:36:30 2013
From: quinn at pgexperts.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:36:30 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] New Co-Organizer for SF.pm
In-Reply-To: <WM!c97492c225c0ac14b1495e278b79c4fd17475a303f79c59ec95ba05d0ffac389680aace86250f3cda7f3937dde31b4ee!@asav-1.01.com>
References: <CAHrynWA+D5M18B7B58vF2gH4TQ7Rm=9aLPXQHY+JF49PGSAk1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!c97492c225c0ac14b1495e278b79c4fd17475a303f79c59ec95ba05d0ffac389680aace86250f3cda7f3937dde31b4ee!@asav-1.01.com>
Message-ID: <987F1C33-B3D0-48ED-BF7F-3AE0D7BE2C8F@pgexperts.com>

On July 30, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com> wrote:

> All,
> 
> I'm pleased to announce that VM Brasseur is now an official
> Co-Organizer for San Francisco Perl Mongers, with an official title of
> 'Nerd Whisperer'.
> 
> I wanted to say a big 'thanks!' to her for organizing the previous
> Perl 5i meeting.

Congratulations! This is awesome news. It's really encouraging how the community has continued to draw energetic organizers over its many years of existence.

--
Quinn Weaver
PostgreSQL Experts, Inc.
http://pgexperts.com/
1-888-743-9778 (my extension: 510)



From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com  Tue Jul 30 13:52:56 2013
From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:52:56 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] October Meeting: Git: Learning To Love The DAG For Fun
	And Profit
Message-ID: <51F827A8.1000104@vmbrasseur.com>

Git. It's the new hotness. If you listen to the talking heads of our 
industry, git is all that and a bag of chips.

But what it also is? Difficult to learn and not particularly 
approachable. It's a very special sort of voodoo.

Jonathan "Duke" Leto, Git Witchdoctor Extraordinaire, will be joining us 
on October 22nd to give us an introduction to the arcane mysteries of 
this distributed version control system. No eye of newt or head of 
chicken is required for the love potion he'll brew. By the end of the 
evening you will love Git, too.

Jonathan "Duke" Leto is the Root Commit of PDX Git Together, the world's 
first Git user group as well as a published mathematician and scientist.

Duke is a long-time and active contributor to CPAN, Parrot VM, Perl 5 
and 6, Firefox, and even to Git itself. Duke is a member of Portland 
Perl Mongers and provides strategic Git consulting via Leto Labs LLC. 
Most recently, Duke co-founded BrewPony, a service which delivers 
freshly roasted artisan coffee to your door, within 7 days of roasting. 
He'd like to say all of this keeps him out of trouble, but ? well ? he 
can't.

PLEASE NOTE:

* We only have 30 seats available. Do the right thing and only RSVP if
   you know you'll be able to attend.
* All guests must submit their first and last name for security
   reasons. You will NOT be able to attend if you do not provide this
   information.
* All guests must check in with security upon arrival.
* Please do not arrive before 6:45 pm.
* Dinner and drinks will be served (with vegan/vegetarian options).

RSVP here: 
http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/events/132202742/