From blum.stephen at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 12:34:12 2009 From: blum.stephen at gmail.com (Stephen Blum) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:34:12 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] SanFrancisco-pm Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings, I vote for Little Delhi. Our office has ordered from them many times with excellent results in the realm of general tastiness. I went there last night for my best friend's existence anniversary, deluxe. They live on 83 Eddy st. Best, Stephen On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM, wrote: > Send SanFrancisco-pm mailing list submissions to > sanfrancisco-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sanfrancisco-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sanfrancisco-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SanFrancisco-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown? (Josh Berkus) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:30:01 -0700 > From: Josh Berkus > Subject: Re: [sf-perl] [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown? > To: San Francisco Perl Mongers User Group > Message-ID: <4AC3B1B9.3090006 at agliodbs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 9/29/09 6:59 PM, frosty wrote: > > For future reference, you might also consider Mehfil Indian. > > > > http://mehfilindian.com/ > > Yeah, I looked at them, but they're a bit too expensive for a PUG. > They'd run about $15-$20/person. > > BTW, reviews on Tikka-masala said "no" (late delivery, missing items), > but Little Delhi looks promising for cheap Tandoori delivery. We'll try > them for the next SFPostgres and let you know. > > -- > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL Experts Inc. > www.pgexperts.com > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > > End of SanFrancisco-pm Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 > ********************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blum.stephen at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 12:28:24 2009 From: blum.stephen at gmail.com (Stephen Blum) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:28:24 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] SanFrancisco-pm Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings, I vote for the Little Delhi. Our office has ordered from them many times with excellent results in the realm of general tastiness. I went there last night for my best friend's existence anniversary, deluxe. Best, Stephen On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM, wrote: > Send SanFrancisco-pm mailing list submissions to > sanfrancisco-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sanfrancisco-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sanfrancisco-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SanFrancisco-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown? (Josh Berkus) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:30:01 -0700 > From: Josh Berkus > Subject: Re: [sf-perl] [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown? > To: San Francisco Perl Mongers User Group > Message-ID: <4AC3B1B9.3090006 at agliodbs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 9/29/09 6:59 PM, frosty wrote: > > For future reference, you might also consider Mehfil Indian. > > > > http://mehfilindian.com/ > > Yeah, I looked at them, but they're a bit too expensive for a PUG. > They'd run about $15-$20/person. > > BTW, reviews on Tikka-masala said "no" (late delivery, missing items), > but Little Delhi looks promising for cheap Tandoori delivery. 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URL: From byrne at majordojo.com Sun Oct 4 12:56:23 2009 From: byrne at majordojo.com (Byrne Reese) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:56:23 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Books to Give Away Message-ID: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> I don't attend meetings, but I have a lot of Oreilly Perl books to give away at the next one: * Perl & XML * Advanced Perl Programming * Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C * Learning Perl Objects, References and Modules * Perl Template Toolkit * Perl Cookbook And these: * Flickr Hacks * TiVo Hacks * JavaServer Pages Email me and I will reserve a copy for you to be picked up at the meeting. Otherwise it is first-come, first-served. See you at the next meeting! Byrne http://www.majordojo.com/ From matt at lanier.org Sun Oct 4 13:15:53 2009 From: matt at lanier.org (Matthew Lanier) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Books to Give Away In-Reply-To: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> References: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> Message-ID: you could add it to the growing pile of old oreilly books already donated by rich morin at the last meetng :-) m@ On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Byrne Reese wrote: > I don't attend meetings, but I have a lot of Oreilly Perl books to give away > at the next one: > > * Perl & XML > * Advanced Perl Programming > * Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C > * Learning Perl Objects, References and Modules > * Perl Template Toolkit > * Perl Cookbook > > And these: > > * Flickr Hacks > * TiVo Hacks > * JavaServer Pages > > Email me and I will reserve a copy for you to be picked up at the meeting. > Otherwise it is first-come, first-served. > > See you at the next meeting! > > Byrne > http://www.majordojo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From sfpug at dave.sharnoff.org Sun Oct 4 16:30:55 2009 From: sfpug at dave.sharnoff.org (David Muir Sharnoff) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:30:55 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Books to Give Away In-Reply-To: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> References: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> Message-ID: <23bf65b80910041630n6691cd56pf74989437f704c66@mail.gmail.com> I would take that Advanced Perl Programming if nobody else has claimed it yet. Thanks, -Dave On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Byrne Reese wrote: > I don't attend meetings, but I have a lot of Oreilly Perl books to give away > at the next one: > > * Perl & XML > * Advanced Perl Programming > * Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C > * Learning Perl Objects, References and Modules > * Perl Template Toolkit > * Perl Cookbook > > And these: > > * Flickr Hacks > * TiVo Hacks > * JavaServer Pages > > Email me and I will reserve a copy for you to be picked up at the meeting. > Otherwise it is first-come, first-served. > > See you at the next meeting! > > Byrne > http://www.majordojo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sun Oct 4 17:00:41 2009 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:00:41 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Books to Give Away In-Reply-To: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> (Byrne Reese's message of "Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:56:23 -0700") References: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> Message-ID: <86ocomwvyu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Byrne" == Byrne Reese writes: Byrne> * Learning Perl Objects, References and Modules Wow. That's ancient. I've replaced that with 3 later revisions. Beware. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From bob.goolsby at gmail.com Sun Oct 4 19:47:11 2009 From: bob.goolsby at gmail.com (Bob goolsby) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:47:11 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Books to Give Away In-Reply-To: <86ocomwvyu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <2AA6EE07-B221-4DDA-99C7-33EC9982AA4A@majordojo.com> <86ocomwvyu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <1a208dd0910041947m7a2f6d59hf336f347002761b1@mail.gmail.com> Randall -- Some of us are 'Completists'. If you recall, three or four years ago you signed all three of my Camels, two Llamas and an Alpaca. Bob G On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Byrne" == Byrne Reese writes: > > Byrne> * Learning Perl Objects, References and Modules > > Wow. ?That's ancient. ?I've replaced that with 3 later revisions. > Beware. :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Tue Oct 6 12:27:34 2009 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:27:34 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] slides on the perlnow.el lightning talk Message-ID: <200910061927.n96JRYV3025371@kzsu.stanford.edu> Sorry I waited so long on this lightning talk link, I wanted to fix up the perlnow.el code a bit before pointing anyone at it. http://www.obsidianrook.com/perlnow/new_release_perlnow_version-0.4.html The code, documentation, and so on can be found here: http://www.obsidianrook.com/perlnow/index_docs.html Here's a try at an elevator pitch: perlnow.el is an emacs extension that integrates what might look like two seperate sets of features at first glance: (1) commands to create new code using templates (2) a more complex version of mode-compile specifically to run perl code from within emacs. For example, if you're editing a module, and you use a perlnow command to open a test file, it remembers the association between the files, and if you then issue the perlnow "run" command from either of those buffers it will guess that you want to run that test file. Perlnow also has a version of a "back" command that makes it easier to rapidly switch between the two buffers (because these associations are a bit less ephemeral than the buffer order used by "switch-to-buffer"). And if you use perlnow's "debug" command from either buffer, it guesses that you want to run perldb on the test file, even if the associated module is currently active. An even shorter pitch: Just look at the "perlnow-check" command. If you don't have something like that yet, you need something like it... and my new version has a cute feature, if I do say so myself: with the "C-u" prefix it does a "check harder" that runs podchecker and perlcritic in addition to doing a "perl -cw" I was asked about backwards compatibility: I don't think this this release will mess with the expectations of someone who was used to the 0.3 version, at least not all that much. Most of the new features are accessed by either entering a new command, or preceeding an old command with a "C-u" prefix. From loopeter at yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 14:00:16 2009 From: loopeter at yahoo.com (Peter Loo) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:00:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [sf-perl] use lib and @INC Message-ID: <613535.27523.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello All, ? I don't know if?this is Perl configuration or Apache, but I am having a problem with Perl module loading during execution of a CGI program. ? Here is what I did at the beginning of the CGI program. ? ? use DBI; ? use warnings; ? use CGI qw(-tabindex :standard Vars); ? use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser carpout); ? use File::Basename; ? use Date::Calc qw(:all); ? use lib '/rms/awa/imy/sh'; ? use lib '/rms/awa/common/sh'; ? ? require "local_vars.pm"; ? require "global_routines.pm"; ? When the program is called?in the browser, I get the following error message: ? Software error:Can't locate local_vars.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /rms/awa/common/sh /rms/awa/imy/sh /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /var/apache/cgi-bin/rms/login.cgi line 23. ? This local_vars.pm is located in /rms/awa/imy/sh.? And as you can see that /rms/awa/imy/sh is in fact in @INC. ? The funny thing though is that when I place the local_vars.pm in /var/apache/htdocs/rms/lib, the program locates the file and all is good. ? I was wondering if anyone would know what I am missing here. ? The version of Apache is 1.3.26 and Perl is 5.8.8. Thanks. ? Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pm.org at daveola.com Wed Oct 7 13:01:29 2009 From: pm.org at daveola.com (David Ljung Madison) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:01:29 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] slides on the perlnow.el lightning talk (Joe Brenner) In-Reply-To: <200910061927.n96JRYV3025371@kzsu.stanford.edu> References: <200910061927.n96JRYV3025371@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: > ..if you then issue the perlnow "run" command from.. perlnow sounds fantastic, but I am a vim geek not an emacs geek. While hoping to avoid a religious war, and while recognizing that perlnow offers *much* more than just an ability to test run your scripts, I thought it might be useful to point out a simple utility that I use in it's place. Whenever I talk to programmers I'm surprised they don't do they same thing, and after they hear about it, so are they. I have a script that watches for file changes and upon seeing them runs a command (such as compile or execute the scripts, etc..). I keep a window open running this script and then as many editor windows as I need to edit the source. I simply write the file, look at the other window and see the results. Best development tool I have. You can write your own, or you're welcome to steal mine: http://MarginalHacks.com/#every_change Thanks to Joe for bringing up the topic of script development and his neat emacs environment. Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415 341-5555 ------------ "Preferred over shiny round objects 2-to-1" ------------------ From fred at redhotpenguin.com Wed Oct 7 14:59:59 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:59:59 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] slides on the perlnow.el lightning talk (Joe Brenner) In-Reply-To: References: <200910061927.n96JRYV3025371@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David Ljung Madison wrote: >> ..if you then issue the perlnow "run" command from.. > > perlnow sounds fantastic, but I am a vim geek not an emacs geek. For what it is worth, I am both a vim geek and an emacs geek. I use perlnow on emacs, and perl-support on vim. I've found that vim is great for jumping in and out of files, but the repetitive keystrokes give me rsi when used for extended periods. Emacs takes a bit longer to startup, but is more useful to me if I have to spend more than 5-15 minutes in a file. They are really two different tools when you get to know them, and depending on your personal abilities and needs, can serve equally well for different tasks. I don't see either one as 'better', they are simply 'different', and have different strengths and weaknesses. > > While hoping to avoid a religious war, and while recognizing > that perlnow offers *much* more than just an ability to test > run your scripts, I thought it might be useful to point out > a simple utility that I use in it's place. ?Whenever I talk > to programmers I'm surprised they don't do they same thing, > and after they hear about it, so are they. > > I have a script that watches for file changes and upon > seeing them runs a command (such as compile or execute > the scripts, etc..). > > I keep a window open running this script and then as many editor > windows as I need to edit the source. ?I simply write the file, > look at the other window and see the results. ?Best development > tool I have. ?You can write your own, or you're welcome to steal mine: > > ?http://MarginalHacks.com/#every_change > > Thanks to Joe for bringing up the topic of script development > and his neat emacs environment. > > Dave > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Ljung Madison ? ? ? ? ?http://GetDave.com/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?415 341-5555 > ------------ "Preferred over shiny round objects 2-to-1" ------------------ > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Oct 7 16:55:09 2009 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:55:09 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] slides on the perlnow.el lightning talk (Joe Brenner) In-Reply-To: References: <200910061927.n96JRYV3025371@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200910072355.n97Nt9wo057933@kzsu.stanford.edu> David Ljung Madison wrote: > I have a script that watches for file changes and upon > seeing them runs a command (such as compile or execute > the scripts, etc..). > I keep a window open running this script and then as many editor > windows as I need to edit the source. I simply write the file, > look at the other window and see the results. Sounds like an okay idea, though myself I often save code in an incomplete state, so it would show an awful lot of false positives. Myself, I might try implementing a "nightly build" on my work-station some time... you check your email in the morning, and see if there are any problems you don't know about left over from last night. > Thanks to Joe for bringing up the topic of script development > and his neat emacs environment. Always glad to hear other people's ideas, myself... From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Oct 7 17:33:14 2009 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:33:14 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] slides on the perlnow.el lightning talk (Joe Brenner) In-Reply-To: References: <200910061927.n96JRYV3025371@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200910080033.n980XEML058803@kzsu.stanford.edu> Fred Moyer wrote: > David Ljung Madison wrote: > >> ..if you then issue the perlnow "run" command from.. > > > > perlnow sounds fantastic, but I am a vim geek not an emacs geek. > > For what it is worth, I am both a vim geek and an emacs geek. I use > perlnow on emacs, and perl-support on vim. > > I've found that vim is great for jumping in and out of files, but the > repetitive keystrokes give me rsi when used for extended periods. > Emacs takes a bit longer to startup, but is more useful to me if I > have to spend more than 5-15 minutes in a file. As we emacs geeks tend to point out, there's really no reason to exit emacs, so the start-up time doesn't tend to matter. On my linux box, the emacs uptimes are only a little less than my kernel uptimes... This situation does get a bit worse if you're stuck working remotely over a flaky network connection. I have the impression that vim is working hard to add emacs-like features, and the differences between the two are getting more subtle. Emacs is built around the idea of being extensible -- e.g. ask for help on a keystroke command, it shows you the documentation for the function it's bound to, and from there let's you jump straight into the place in the source code where the function is defined. But if one goes too far with this, one does find oneself in a twisty maze of elisp, which not many would call an advantage. From friedman at highwire.stanford.edu Mon Oct 12 11:30:08 2009 From: friedman at highwire.stanford.edu (Michael Friedman) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:30:08 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] October meeting? Message-ID: Is there going to be an October Perl Mongers' meeting? If so, what's the topic? (I don't see anything on Meetup.com or in my saved email.) -- Mike PS - With the upcoming holidays, are there going to be November and/or December meetings? ______________________________________________________________________________ Mike Friedman | HighWire Press, Stanford Univ | friedman at highwire.stanford.edu From fred at redhotpenguin.com Mon Oct 12 11:42:59 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:42:59 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] October meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, there will be an October meeting! It will probably be mellow, perhaps dinner at Naan and Curry. Other suggestions welcome. I'll send out an announcement one way or another by end of day tomorrow. We will have an event in some form or another in November and December. I plan to keep my word of a year ago that we would have a get together every month :) On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Michael Friedman wrote: > Is there going to be an October Perl Mongers' meeting? > If so, what's the topic? > (I don't see anything on Meetup.com or in my saved email.) > > -- Mike > > PS - With the upcoming holidays, are there going to be November and/or > December meetings? > ______________________________________________________________________________ > Mike Friedman | HighWire Press, Stanford Univ | > friedman at highwire.stanford.edu > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From byrne at majordojo.com Mon Oct 12 11:49:57 2009 From: byrne at majordojo.com (Byrne Reese) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:49:57 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] October meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18A86AA7-09E8-4BB4-97E4-67D1143FC835@majordojo.com> Dinner would be fun. I volunteer to lead a discussion on the latest developments of mod_perlite: http://modperlite.org/ And of course bring my books to give away. Also available for the give away is "Programming Web Services with Perl." On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Fred Moyer wrote: > Yes, there will be an October meeting! > > It will probably be mellow, perhaps dinner at Naan and Curry. Other > suggestions welcome. I'll send out an announcement one way or another > by end of day tomorrow. > > We will have an event in some form or another in November and > December. I plan to keep my word of a year ago that we would have a > get together every month :) > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Michael Friedman > wrote: >> Is there going to be an October Perl Mongers' meeting? >> If so, what's the topic? >> (I don't see anything on Meetup.com or in my saved email.) >> >> -- Mike >> >> PS - With the upcoming holidays, are there going to be November and/ >> or >> December meetings? >> ______________________________________________________________________________ >> Mike Friedman | HighWire Press, Stanford Univ | >> friedman at highwire.stanford.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm From eruby at knowledgematters.net Fri Oct 16 10:56:53 2009 From: eruby at knowledgematters.net (Earl Ruby) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:56:53 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] October meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Fred Moyer wrote: > It will probably be mellow, perhaps dinner at Naan and Curry. ?Other > suggestions welcome. ?I'll send out an announcement one way or another > by end of day tomorrow. Did the announcement go out? I haven't seen anything. -- Earl Ruby http://earlruby.org/ From fred at redhotpenguin.com Fri Oct 16 11:17:18 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:17:18 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] October meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Earl Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Fred Moyer wrote: >> It will probably be mellow, perhaps dinner at Naan and Curry. ?Other >> suggestions welcome. ?I'll send out an announcement one way or another >> by end of day tomorrow. > > Did the announcement go out? I haven't seen anything. Sorry for the delay, been slammed with work. October 27th at 7pm. The official meetup announcement will go out tonight. "Naan-N-Curry" at 336 O'Farrell Street, between Mason and Taylor. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=336+OFarrell+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94102,+USA This place has moved around a few times, and has many satellite locations now, so look at that address carefully. This is across the street from the Hilton, and next to the entrance to a large parking garage. >From the Powell Street Bart station: walk two blocks north along Powell, and 1.5 blocks west. Don't try to walk up Mason or Taylor, unless you're in an adventurous mood. The food is inexpensive, high quality Indian food. They have a buffet these days, which makes things simpler. Free chai. The dining room is double-sized, with large tables: there's no need to worry too much about RSVPs. http://naancurry.com/branches.php?brn=5 This place used to be 24 hours, but I guess they've scaled back to 11:00 AM to 4:00 AM. But I don't think we'll need to rush out of there. From fred at redhotpenguin.com Fri Oct 16 11:20:28 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:20:28 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Fwd: Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group Program--Oct In-Reply-To: <1255712489.2178.0.196283@post.oreilly.com> References: <1255712489.2178.0.196283@post.oreilly.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marsee Henon Date: Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM Subject: Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group Program--Oct To: fred at redhotpenguin.com View this information as HTML in your browser, click here: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zjpejkt89divhk0qgbf34cd0h3r8oqgs2g3sruco Hi there, Snow Leopard, Windows 7, Google Wave, mobile, social media, and ebooks are hot topics around here--if your group is covering these areas please let me know and I'll request some books or give you access to the latest info we have. 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If you would like to stop receiving these newsletters or announcements from O'Reilly, send an email to marsee at oreilly.com ================================================================ From fred at redhotpenguin.com Fri Oct 16 13:20:51 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:20:51 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] October meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's official! http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11643533/ On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Fred Moyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Earl Ruby wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Fred Moyer wrote: >>> It will probably be mellow, perhaps dinner at Naan and Curry. ?Other >>> suggestions welcome. ?I'll send out an announcement one way or another >>> by end of day tomorrow. >> >> Did the announcement go out? I haven't seen anything. > > Sorry for the delay, been slammed with work. > > October 27th at 7pm. ?The official meetup announcement will go out tonight. > > > "Naan-N-Curry" at 336 O'Farrell Street, between Mason and Taylor. > > ?http://maps.google.com/maps?q=336+OFarrell+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94102,+USA > > This place has moved around a few times, and has many satellite > locations now, so look at that address carefully. ?This is across the > street from the Hilton, and next to the entrance to a large parking > garage. > > From the Powell Street Bart station: walk two blocks north along Powell, > and 1.5 blocks west. ?Don't try to walk up Mason or Taylor, unless > you're in an adventurous mood. > > The food is inexpensive, high quality Indian food. They have a buffet > these days, which makes things simpler. ?Free chai. ?The dining room > is double-sized, with large tables: there's no need to worry too much > about RSVPs. > > ?http://naancurry.com/branches.php?brn=5 > > This place used to be 24 hours, but I guess they've scaled back to > 11:00 AM to 4:00 AM. ?But I don't think we'll need to rush out of > there. > From rdm at cfcl.com Mon Oct 19 09:51:31 2009 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:51:31 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] FYI - Ezra Zygmuntowicz talk, 10/22, SV Ruby Meetup Message-ID: Ezra is a very sharp guy and a good speaker. He will be speaking Thursday evening at the SV Ruby Meetup: Date: Thursday, Oct 22nd, 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM Location: Carnegie Mellon University, Bldg 23 Moffet Field Mountain View, CA 94040 Cost: Free Where Do I Put This Data? - Ezra Zygmuntowicz In this talk we will explore the explosion of key value and other alternative storage engines for storing data without using a relational database. There are so many options these days for storing your data, how do you choose what will work for you? When do you really need to get out of the relational model and into a DHT or bigtable style data store. We will explore various options like redis, toyko, couchdb, flare, dynomite and when and why you would choose one of these data stores. Bio: Ezra Zygmuntowicz is a founder and developer at Engine Yard. He has been active in the Ruby community for over five years, and has contributed to many open source projects, including Rails, Merb, Rack and Rubinius. He is co-author of Deploying Rails Applications, published by The Pragmatic Programmers, and speaks at Ruby, Rails and Cloud Computing related events throughout the country. http://www.meetup.com/silicon-valley-ruby/calendar/11277225/ -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm at cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development From fred at redhotpenguin.com Tue Oct 20 14:16:13 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:16:13 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Fwd: Reminder: Perlmongers Dinner is in one week. In-Reply-To: <331162322.1256073302721.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com> References: <331162322.1256073302721.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com> Message-ID: October Perlmongers dinner in 1 week! Please RSVP! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Meetup Reminder Date: Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM Subject: Reminder: Perlmongers Dinner is in one week. To: fred at redhotpenguin.com [image: Meetup] Meetup Reminder San Francisco Perl Mongers Your group has a Meetup Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM! You RSVPed Yes. What Perlmongers Dinner When Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM Who 9 Yes / 0 Maybe Where Naan-N-Curry 336 O'Farrell Street San Francisco CA 94102 Update your RSVP 9 Perl MongersRSVPed Yes, including? *see all * Meetup Description This month we will be holding a group dinner instead of a traditional meeting. The date for this meeting is October 27th at 7pm. "Naan-N-Curry" at 336 O'Farrell Street, between Mason and Taylor. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=336+OFarrell+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94102,+USA This place has moved around a few times, and has many satellite locations now, so look at that address carefully. This is across the street from the Hilton, and next to the entrance to a large parking garage. >From the Powell Street Bart station: walk two blocks north along Powell, and 1.5 blocks west. Don't try to walk up Mason or Taylor, unless you're in an adventurous mood. The food is inexpensive, high quality Indian food. They have a buffet these days, which makes things simpler. Free chai. The dining room is double-sized, with large tables: there's no need to worry too much about RSVPs. http://naancurry.com/branches.php?brn=5 This place used to be 24 hours, but I guess they've scaled back to 11:00 AM to 4:00 AM. But I don't think we'll need to rush out of there. Announcement posted via App::PM::Announce Add *info at meetup.com* to your address book to receive all your Meetup emails. You are receiving this email because you are a member of San Francisco Perl Mongers. To manage your email settings, click here . Questions? You can email Meetup Support at: support at meetup.com Meetup Inc. PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gabor Szabo Date: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:26 PM Subject: [pm_groups] Poll: Which editor(s) or IDE(s) are you using for Perl development? To: PM Groups Please read this and if possible forward this to your PM group ? ---------------- Hi, I have setup a simple 5-second poll to find out what editor(s) or IDE(s) people use for Perl development. I'd appreciate very much if you clicked on the link and answered the question. You can mark up to 3 answers. Please also forward this mail in the company you are working and to people in your previous company so we can get a large and diverse set of responses. The poll will be closed within a week or after we reached 1000 voters. Whichever comes first. Please act now! http://bit.ly/2V8Ltz thanks ? Gabor ?http://szabgab.com/blog.html ?http://perlmongers.wordpress.com/ -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups From fred at redhotpenguin.com Mon Oct 26 13:13:05 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:13:05 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [meeting] Fwd: Reminder: "Perlmongers Dinner" is tomorrow, Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM! In-Reply-To: <1895093405.1256587836245.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com> References: <1895093405.1256587836245.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com> Message-ID: Greetings, Don't forget our Perl Mongers Dinner is tomorrow at Naan-N-Curry! http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11643533/ Also, the mod_perl / SF.pm ApacheCon social is in one week! Hope to see you there! http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11676532/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Meetup Reminder Date: Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:10 PM Subject: Reminder: "Perlmongers Dinner" is tomorrow, Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM! To: fred at redhotpenguin.com [image: Meetup] Meetup Reminder San Francisco Perl Mongers Your group has a Meetup tomorrow! You RSVPed Yes. What Perlmongers Dinner When Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM Who 16 Yes / 1 Maybe Where Naan-N-Curry 336 O'Farrell Street San Francisco CA 94102 Update your RSVP 16 Perl MongersRSVPed Yes, including? *see all * Meetup Description This month we will be holding a group dinner instead of a traditional meeting. The date for this meeting is October 27th at 7pm. "Naan-N-Curry" at 336 O'Farrell Street, between Mason and Taylor. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=336+OFarrell+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94102,+USA This place has moved around a few times, and has many satellite locations now, so look at that address carefully. This is across the street from the Hilton, and next to the entrance to a large parking garage. >From the Powell Street Bart station: walk two blocks north along Powell, and 1.5 blocks west. Don't try to walk up Mason or Taylor, unless you're in an adventurous mood. The food is inexpensive, high quality Indian food. They have a buffet these days, which makes things simpler. Free chai. The dining room is double-sized, with large tables: there's no need to worry too much about RSVPs. http://naancurry.com/branches.php?brn=5 This place used to be 24 hours, but I guess they've scaled back to 11:00 AM to 4:00 AM. But I don't think we'll need to rush out of there. Announcement posted via App::PM::Announce Add *info at meetup.com* to your address book to receive all your Meetup emails. You are receiving this email because you are a member of San Francisco Perl Mongers. To manage your email settings, click here . Questions? You can email Meetup Support at: support at meetup.com Meetup Inc. PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From byrne at majordojo.com Mon Oct 26 13:26:58 2009 From: byrne at majordojo.com (Byrne Reese) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:26:58 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [meeting] Fwd: Reminder: "Perlmongers Dinner" is tomorrow, Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM! In-Reply-To: References: <1895093405.1256587836245.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com> Message-ID: <9B715BA9-ACFA-4FDC-A450-914F92B4C762@majordojo.com> And don't forget - I will be carting with me a slew of Oreilly Perl books to give away. Those that reserved their copies of their preferred titles earlier: don't forget to come! Byrne On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > Greetings, > > Don't forget our Perl Mongers Dinner is tomorrow at Naan-N-Curry! > > http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11643533/ > > > Also, the mod_perl / SF.pm ApacheCon social is in one week! Hope to > see you there! > > http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11676532/ > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Meetup Reminder > Date: Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:10 PM > Subject: Reminder: "Perlmongers Dinner" is tomorrow, Tuesday, > October 27, 2009 7:00 PM! > To: fred at redhotpenguin.com > > > > Meetup Reminder > San Francisco Perl Mongers > Your group has a Meetup tomorrow! > You RSVPed Yes. > What > Perlmongers Dinner > > When > Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:00 PM > > Who > 16 Yes / 1 Maybe > > Where > Naan-N-Curry > 336 O'Farrell Street > San Francisco CA 94102 > Update your RSVP > > 16 Perl Mongers RSVPed Yes, including? > > > > > > > > > > see all > Meetup Description > This month we will be holding a group dinner instead of a traditional > meeting. The date for this meeting is October 27th at 7pm. > > "Naan-N-Curry" at 336 O'Farrell Street, between Mason and Taylor. > > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=336+OFarrell+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94102,+USA > > This place has moved around a few times, and has many satellite > locations now, so look at that address carefully. This is across the > street from the Hilton, and next to the entrance to a large parking > garage. > > From the Powell Street Bart station: walk two blocks north along > Powell, > and 1.5 blocks west. Don't try to walk up Mason or Taylor, unless > you're in an adventurous mood. > > The food is inexpensive, high quality Indian food. They have a buffet > these days, which makes things simpler. Free chai. The dining room > is double-sized, with large tables: there's no need to worry too much > about RSVPs. > > http://naancurry.com/branches.php?brn=5 > > This place used to be 24 hours, but I guess they've scaled back to > 11:00 AM to 4:00 AM. But I don't think we'll need to rush out of > there. > > > Announcement posted via App::PM::Announce > > Add info at meetup.com to your address book to receive all your Meetup > emails. > You are receiving this email because you are a member of San > Francisco Perl Mongers. > To manage your email settings, click here. > Questions? You can email Meetup Support at: support at meetup.com > Meetup Inc. PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm From fred at redhotpenguin.com Tue Oct 27 11:54:16 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:54:16 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [twiki] Fwd: TWiki Helsinki Release Meeting, Mon, 2009-10-26, 17:00 GMT In-Reply-To: <6ebbd8770910271137y34cfb0eas19f01139c8b1b8a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64647D06-6865-4B1F-A8FE-54A584B40BFD@thoeny.org> <6ebbd8770910271137y34cfb0eas19f01139c8b1b8a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Fyi. Looking forward to seeing everyone tonight for the Perl Mongers Dinner! http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11643533/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Quinn Weaver Date: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM Subject: Re: TWiki Helsinki Release Meeting, Mon, 2009-10-26, 17:00 GMT To: Peter Thoeny Cc: Sopan Shewale , Fred Moyer On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Peter Thoeny wrote: > Hi Quinn, > > if you have time, I invite you to join Monday's TWiki release meeting on > IRC. Please feel free to spread the word amongst your S.F. Perl Mongers. > > Cheers, > Peter Hi, Peter, I've retired from running SF Perl Mongers, but I'm CC'ing Fred Moyer, the current president. ?It's up to his discretion whether to pass this on to the list. Anyway, thanks for keeping me in the loop, and thanks for speaking to us in the past. :) -- Quinn Weaver Consulting, LLC Full-stack web design and development http://quinnweaver.com/ 510-520-5217 From byrne at majordojo.com Tue Oct 27 19:30:22 2009 From: byrne at majordojo.com (Byrne Reese) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:30:22 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Sorry I missed everyone! Message-ID: Man-oh-man, I am sorry I missed everyone tonight. I was really looking forward to hanging out with a bunch of people I feel I probably should have been hanging out with years ago. But then a cable on the Bay Bridge broke. And there you have it. See you next time! PS. I would be happy to speak about Melody [1] or mod_perlite [2] at the next meeting for those that might be interested! [1] http://openmelody.org/ [2] http://modperlite.org/ From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Tue Oct 27 23:30:11 2009 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:30:11 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Sorry I missed everyone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200910280630.n9S6UBF8061748@kzsu.stanford.edu> Byrne Reese wrote: > I am sorry I missed everyone tonight. I was really looking forward to > hanging out with a bunch of people I feel I probably should have been > hanging out with years ago. And it turned out to be quite the success tonight, I would say. We had a turn-out of over 20 people, all babbling away about different perlish subjects. > But then a cable on the Bay Bridge broke. And there you have it. Yow. I hadn't heard about that one yet. > PS. I would be happy to speak about Melody [1] or mod_perlite [2] at > the next meeting for those that might be interested! > > [1] http://openmelody.org/ > [2] http://modperlite.org/ I think we've got a speaker lined up for November, and we'll be skipping the December meeting (unless we do an odd one earlier in the month than usual). But, you know: "let's talk". (My vote would by modperlite.) From fred at redhotpenguin.com Wed Oct 28 10:40:42 2009 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:40:42 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Sorry I missed everyone! In-Reply-To: <200910280630.n9S6UBF8061748@kzsu.stanford.edu> References: <200910280630.n9S6UBF8061748@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Joe Brenner wrote: > > Byrne Reese wrote: > >> I am sorry I missed everyone tonight. I was really looking forward to >> hanging out with a bunch of people I feel I probably should have been >> hanging out with years ago. > > And it turned out to be quite the success tonight, I would say. > We had a turn-out of over 20 people, all babbling away about > different perlish subjects. Yes - great meeting everyone! >> But then a cable on the Bay Bridge broke. And there you have it. > > Yow. ?I hadn't heard about that one yet. This illustrates the dangers of making last minute fixes before the work goes to production ;) > I think we've got a speaker lined up for November, and we'll be skipping > the December meeting (unless we do an odd one earlier in the month than > usual). ?But, you know: "let's talk". ?(My vote would by modperlite.) Instead of a December meeting, we'll do another social. The scheduled date would be the 22nd, maybe we can do a get together with the SF Postgres users group.