From MichelleJacobsen at spherion.com Tue Apr 3 14:31:23 2007
From: MichelleJacobsen at spherion.com (Jacobsen, Michelle)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:31:23 -0400
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
Message-ID: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7CD9@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
Hi Quinn,
Thank you very much for your time on the phone this afternoon. As I
mentioned, we have a client in Palo Alto who is looking for 10 Perl
Programmers.
I would love it if you could post this on SFPUG site.
Here is the job description:
Senior Programmer
We have a client in Palo Alto who is looking for talented Senior Perl
Programmers. As a member of the development staff, you would be
spearheading projects to deliver world-class features.
Position Responsibilities:
* Work with project managers to implement features that enhance
the overall user experience
* Design code modules that scale well under heavy load
* Interface with graphic designers to assist with front-end
development
* Work with QA analysts to resolve issues before going live
Desired Qualifications:
* 3+ years experience with PERL and mod_perl
* Solid SQL and relational database knowledge
* HTML fluency
* Understanding how high volume and a load-balanced environment can
affect coding approach.
* Self-motivated problem solver
* Excellent written and oral communication skills
Salary $95k Plus Quarterly Bonuses
Willing to pay relocation
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From MichelleJacobsen at spherion.com Tue Apr 3 14:52:28 2007
From: MichelleJacobsen at spherion.com (Jacobsen, Michelle)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:52:28 -0400
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
Message-ID: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
Hi Quinn,
(Please disregard my first email. I forgot to include my contact
information). I apologize.
Thank you very much for your time on the phone this afternoon. As I
mentioned, we have a client in Palo Alto who is looking for 10 Perl
Programmers.
I would love it if you could post this on SFPUG site.
Here is the job description:
Senior Programmer
We have a client in Palo Alto who is looking for talented Senior Perl
Programmers. As a member of the development staff, you would be
spearheading projects to deliver world-class features.
Position Responsibilities:
* Work with project managers to implement features that enhance
the overall user experience
* Design code modules that scale well under heavy load
* Interface with graphic designers to assist with front-end
development
* Work with QA analysts to resolve issues before going live
Desired Qualifications:
* 3+ years experience with PERL and mod_perl
* Solid SQL and relational database knowledge
* HTML fluency
* Understanding how high volume and a load-balanced environment can
affect coding approach.
* Self-motivated problem solver
* Excellent written and oral communication skills
Salary $95k Plus Quarterly Bonuses
Willing to pay relocation
Please send resume to michellejacobsen at spherion.com.
Thank you Quinn!!! Please send me your resume too. I would love to
keep you in mind about upcoming contract positions.
Michelle Jacobsen
Technical Recruiter
Professional Staffing Group
Spherion Corporation
Recruiting and Staffing Excellence
3825 Hopyard Road Ste 270
Pleasanton, CA 94588
Phone: 925-847-8500 x 32
Main Fax: 925-847-8885
michellejacobsen at spherion.com
www.spherion.com
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From quinn at fairpath.com Tue Apr 3 19:26:20 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 19:26:20 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
Message-ID: <20070404022620.GA79117@fu.funkspiel.org>
Sorry for the lack of [job] prefix in the Subject line, as well as the
superfluous text. Mailman doesn't let me edit messages before sending
them to the list; it just lets me accept or reject them.
Otherwise, I do try to practice what I preach. ;)
--
Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers
http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/
From fred at redhotpenguin.com Tue Apr 3 21:03:33 2007
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:03:33 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070404022620.GA79117@fu.funkspiel.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404022620.GA79117@fu.funkspiel.org>
Message-ID: <46132395.5070705@redhotpenguin.com>
Quinn Weaver wrote:
> Sorry for the lack of [job] prefix in the Subject line, as well as the
> superfluous text. Mailman doesn't let me edit messages before sending
> them to the list; it just lets me accept or reject them.
>
> Otherwise, I do try to practice what I preach. ;)
Seems like the job of adding [job] to the prefix of the Subject line
would be a great task for a perl program :) Are there any hooks into
the list software?
$subject = sprintf("[job] %s", $subject) if $body =~ m/(?:job)/i;
or perhaps something more clever, but you get the idea. I know it can
be done with Qpsmtpd.
From quinn at fairpath.com Tue Apr 3 23:00:22 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:00:22 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <46132395.5070705@redhotpenguin.com>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404022620.GA79117@fu.funkspiel.org>
<46132395.5070705@redhotpenguin.com>
Message-ID: <20070404060022.GA79818@fu.funkspiel.org>
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:03:33PM -0700, Fred Moyer wrote:
> Quinn Weaver wrote:
> > Sorry for the lack of [job] prefix in the Subject line, as well as the
> > superfluous text. Mailman doesn't let me edit messages before sending
> > them to the list; it just lets me accept or reject them.
> >
> > Otherwise, I do try to practice what I preach. ;)
>
> Seems like the job of adding [job] to the prefix of the Subject line
> would be a great task for a perl program :) Are there any hooks into
> the list software?
>
> $subject = sprintf("[job] %s", $subject) if $body =~ m/(?:job)/i;
Good idea. Also a good excuse to learn Python (which Mailman is
written in).
Anyone want to send me a diff? ;)
--
Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers
http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/
From boss at gregerhaga.net Wed Apr 4 00:59:04 2007
From: boss at gregerhaga.net (Greger)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:59:04 +0300
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070404060022.GA79818@fu.funkspiel.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404022620.GA79117@fu.funkspiel.org>
<46132395.5070705@redhotpenguin.com>
<20070404060022.GA79818@fu.funkspiel.org>
Message-ID: <20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:00:22 -0700, Quinn Weaver wrote
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:03:33PM -0700, Fred Moyer wrote:
> > Quinn Weaver wrote:
> > > Sorry for the lack of [job] prefix in the Subject line, as well as the
> > > superfluous text. Mailman doesn't let me edit messages before sending
> > > them to the list; it just lets me accept or reject them.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, I do try to practice what I preach. ;)
> >
> > Seems like the job of adding [job] to the prefix of the Subject line
> > would be a great task for a perl program :) Are there any hooks into
> > the list software?
> >
> > $subject = sprintf("[job] %s", $subject) if $body =~ m/(?:job)/i;
>
> Good idea. Also a good excuse to learn Python (which Mailman is
> written in).
>
> Anyone want to send me a diff? ;)
ah, the above will trigger a false positive with "duuh, what a job this perl
is..."*S*
hehe...
>
> --
> Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco
> Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/
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From james at actionmessage.com Wed Apr 4 04:57:47 2007
From: james at actionmessage.com (James Briggs)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 03:57:47 -0800
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7CD9@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7CD9@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
Message-ID: <20070404115253.M49711@actionmessage.com>
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:31:23 -0400, Jacobsen, Michelle wrote
> Salary $95k Plus Quarterly Bonuses
>
> Willing to pay relocation
Wow, a whole 95K in Silicon Valley!
Somebody should explain to them that:
1) 10 perl programmers is too many for most projects
2) they should rebudget the money for maybe 6 experienced ones instead.
That way they can fill the req, get the work done, and everybody's happy.
But I hear that SV VCs often hand out a salary schedule along with the
term sheet.
Thanks,
James Briggs
From fred at redhotpenguin.com Wed Apr 4 11:42:06 2007
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:42:06 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
Message-ID: <1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 1:17 am, Greger wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:00:22 -0700, Quinn Weaver wrote
>> On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:03:33PM -0700, Fred Moyer wrote:
>> > Seems like the job of adding [job] to the prefix of the Subject line
>> > would be a great task for a perl program :) Are there any hooks
>> into
>> > the list software?
>> >
>> > $subject = sprintf("[job] %s", $subject) if $body =~ m/(?:job)/i;
>>
>> Good idea. Also a good excuse to learn Python (which Mailman is
>> written in).
>>
>> Anyone want to send me a diff? ;)
> ah, the above will trigger a false positive with "duuh, what a job this
> perl
> is..."*S*
> hehe...
Right... Which is why I said 'or something more clever' :) Like;
my @body_terms = split(" ", $body);
local $" = '|'; # change the quoting operator to |
my @job_terms = qw( job hire salary position );
my $subject_trigger = grep { $_ =~ m/@job_terms/i } @body_terms;
add_subject if ($subject_trigger > int(scalar(job_terms)/2));
Not perfect, but I think you can get pretty close with a few revisions.
Now, anyone want to plug this into mailman? :)
From boss at gregerhaga.net Wed Apr 4 23:34:35 2007
From: boss at gregerhaga.net (Greger)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:34:35 +0300
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:42:06 -0700, Fred Moyer wrote
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 1:17 am, Greger wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:00:22 -0700, Quinn Weaver wrote
> >> On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:03:33PM -0700, Fred Moyer wrote:
> >> > Seems like the job of adding [job] to the prefix of the Subject line
> >> > would be a great task for a perl program :) Are there any hooks
> >> into
> >> > the list software?
> >> >
> >> > $subject = sprintf("[job] %s", $subject) if $body =~ m/(?:job)/i;
> >>
> >> Good idea. Also a good excuse to learn Python (which Mailman is
> >> written in).
> >>
> >> Anyone want to send me a diff? ;)
> > ah, the above will trigger a false positive with "duuh, what a job this
> > perl
> > is..."*S*
> > hehe...
>
> Right... Which is why I said 'or something more clever' :) Like;
>
> my @body_terms = split(" ", $body);
> local $" = '|'; # change the quoting operator to |
> my @job_terms = qw( job hire salary position );
> my $subject_trigger = grep { $_ =~ m/@job_terms/i } @body_terms;
> add_subject if ($subject_trigger > int(scalar(job_terms)/2));
>
> Not perfect, but I think you can get pretty close with a few revisions.
>
> Now, anyone want to plug this into mailman? :)
> _______________________________________________
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> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
hmm...probably pretty good, just occured to me:would it be a good idea to put
jobads in a database table someplace, and autosend them once a week or so(or
whatever) to the list? Sure there is jobs.perl.org, but that is sort of a
global service.
just an idea
--
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http://hack-space.biz/
From david at fetter.org Thu Apr 5 09:45:41 2007
From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:45:41 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
Message-ID: <20070405164541.GB6011@fetter.org>
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:34:35AM +0300, Greger wrote:
> hmm...probably pretty good, just occured to me:would it be a good
> idea to put jobads in a database table someplace, and autosend them
> once a week or so(or whatever) to the list? Sure there is
> jobs.perl.org, but that is sort of a global service.
I think it's probably more fun just to ask people to put [job] in the
header, and I say that as a career-long database weenie :)
For local jobs, craigslist.org is excellent.
Cheers,
D
--
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phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666
Skype: davidfetter
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From boss at gregerhaga.net Thu Apr 5 10:10:57 2007
From: boss at gregerhaga.net (Greger)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:10:57 +0300
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405164541.GB6011@fetter.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405164541.GB6011@fetter.org>
Message-ID: <20070405170319.M84653@gregerhaga.net>
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:45:41 -0700, David Fetter wrote
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:34:35AM +0300, Greger wrote:
> > hmm...probably pretty good, just occured to me:would it be a good
> > idea to put jobads in a database table someplace, and autosend them
> > once a week or so(or whatever) to the list? Sure there is
> > jobs.perl.org, but that is sort of a global service.
>
> I think it's probably more fun just to ask people to put [job] in the
> header, and I say that as a career-long database weenie :)
all things are not fun, especially looking for a job.
I still think that collecting perl jobs in one place(regarding one particular
geographical area(sf in this case)) would be a good idea. Posting say each
monday what is on the table, to this list could be good. It would tie perl
enthusiasts/experts in this area to this area, as well as companies needing
help also to the people dealing with the perl technology. Sort of making a
hand-shake between perl expert and companies.
well....
Greg
>
> For local jobs, craigslist.org is excellent.
>
> Cheers,
> D
> --
> David Fetter http://fetter.org/
> phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666
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>
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From david at fetter.org Thu Apr 5 11:07:08 2007
From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:07:08 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405170319.M84653@gregerhaga.net>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405164541.GB6011@fetter.org>
<20070405170319.M84653@gregerhaga.net>
Message-ID: <20070405180708.GG6011@fetter.org>
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 08:10:57PM +0300, Greger wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:45:41 -0700, David Fetter wrote
> > On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:34:35AM +0300, Greger wrote:
> > > hmm...probably pretty good, just occured to me:would it be a
> > > good idea to put jobads in a database table someplace, and
> > > autosend them once a week or so(or whatever) to the list? Sure
> > > there is jobs.perl.org, but that is sort of a global service.
> >
> > I think it's probably more fun just to ask people to put [job] in
> > the header, and I say that as a career-long database weenie :)
>
> all things are not fun, especially looking for a job.
I suppose. When searching for work, I've had a lot more luck going to
geek meetings and other kinds of quasi-social events than trying to
distinguish myself among 5000 other emailed resumes.
> I still think that collecting perl jobs in one place(regarding one
> particular geographical area(sf in this case)) would be a good idea.
> Posting say each monday what is on the table, to this list could be
> good. It would tie perl enthusiasts/experts in this area to this
> area, as well as companies needing help also to the people dealing
> with the perl technology. Sort of making a hand-shake between perl
> expert and companies.
I think it would be easier to show up at SF.pm (and other .pm)
meetings. More fun, too. Getting out of the house is a Very Good
Idea when looking for work.
Cheers,
D
--
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phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666
Skype: davidfetter
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From josh at agliodbs.com Thu Apr 5 11:11:22 2007
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:11:22 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405180708.GG6011@fetter.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070405170319.M84653@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405180708.GG6011@fetter.org>
Message-ID: <200704051111.22772.josh@agliodbs.com>
All,
> I think it would be easier to show up at SF.pm (and other .pm)
> meetings. More fun, too. Getting out of the house is a Very Good
> Idea when looking for work.
Let me also reccomend working conferences. For example, at SCALE5, one of the
people in our booth got a job interview and two independant contractors got
project possibilities. When I used to be a contractor, probably about 25% of
my new projects came from people I met at shows.
--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco
From quinn at fairpath.com Thu Apr 5 12:49:01 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:49:01 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
Message-ID: <20070405194901.GA97167@fu.funkspiel.org>
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:34:35AM +0300, Greger wrote:
> [...]
> hmm...probably pretty good, just occured to me:would it be a good idea to put
> jobads in a database table someplace, and autosend them once a week or so(or
> whatever) to the list? Sure there is jobs.perl.org, but that is sort of a
> global service.
A more general solution is to search the list archives. A search
like the following turns up quite a bit:
http://www.google.com/search?q=job+site%3Amail.pm.org+inurl%3Asanfrancisco-pm&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
(That's Googling job site:mail.pm.org inurl:sanfrancisco-pm).
In fact, I'm planning to put a link to that search on our main web page.
However, I'm held up dealing with some permissions issues on the new
web server. Coming soon!
Suggestions to refine the search terms are desired (iff they come with
examples showing that they give better results).
PS: I agree with David and Josh's advice about getting contracts. :)
--
Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers
http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/
From cba at groundworkopensource.com Thu Apr 5 14:59:33 2007
From: cba at groundworkopensource.com (Chris Barton Anderson)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:59:33 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] BayLISA Monitoring SIG, Weds April 11 7PM
Message-ID: <1175810318.32213.11.camel@peterX20>
(Hi: You're invited to the BayLISA Monitoring SIG, Weds April 11,
7PM. See the meeting announcement pasted below: invite your friends!)
=================================================
April '07 BayLISA Monitoring SIG: SIGnificant Monitoring Tools
Everybody gets to chime in this month as part of our effort to
document and disseminate best monitoring practices. At an earlier
SIG meeting we classified monitoring functionality into four broad
categories: Generation, Collection, Analysis, and Presentation.
We'll flesh this out by 1) defining the specific monitoring
capability that goes in each category and 2) fitting available
monitoring tools into these categories. Newbies: bring your
thorniest (or most basic) monitoring questions and issues. Not-So-
Newbies: come prepared to share your experiences re. successful
deployment, knowledge of specific tools and techniques, etc.
What: BayLISA Monitoring SIG VI: SIGnificant Monitoring Tools
Who: Anyone interested in IT monitoring issues and tools (newbies
particularly welcome!)
When: Wednesday, April 11 2007, 7PM
Where: GroundWork Open Source, 139 Townsend St., San Francisco
How: 139 Townsend St. is very near AT&T Park. It is two blocks from
the CalTrain Depot. Take the new MUNI T trolley to 2nd and King
(ballpark stop) or take the 30 or 45 bus (among others) crosstown.
Free evening street parking can probably be found because the Giants
are out of town that evening.
Cost: Free!!
A potpourri of oven fresh vegetarian and non-vegetarian pizzas,
carbonated and non-carbonated drinks, and high and low calorie snacks
will be provided by GroundWork. We'll open up the doors at 6:30 or so
and start the formal part of the meeting promptly at 7PM.
RSVP (not necessary, but helpful): Peter Mui,
pmui at groundworkopensource.com, 415 992 4573
From moseley at hank.org Thu Apr 5 15:14:28 2007
From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:14:28 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405180708.GG6011@fetter.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405164541.GB6011@fetter.org>
<20070405170319.M84653@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405180708.GG6011@fetter.org>
Message-ID: <20070405221428.GA16898@hank.org>
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:07:08AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> I suppose. When searching for work, I've had a lot more luck going to
> geek meetings and other kinds of quasi-social events than trying to
> distinguish myself among 5000 other emailed resumes.
I wonder where one would have to hang out to find positions in this
this industry: ;)
http://jobs.perl.org/job/5421
Makes the term "fabulously talented product manager" intriguing, no?
--
Bill Moseley
moseley at hank.org
From david at fetter.org Thu Apr 5 16:28:53 2007
From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 16:28:53 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405221428.GA16898@hank.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405164541.GB6011@fetter.org>
<20070405170319.M84653@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405180708.GG6011@fetter.org>
<20070405221428.GA16898@hank.org>
Message-ID: <20070405232853.GI6011@fetter.org>
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 03:14:28PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:07:08AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> > I suppose. When searching for work, I've had a lot more luck
> > going to geek meetings and other kinds of quasi-social events than
> > trying to distinguish myself among 5000 other emailed resumes.
>
> I wonder where one would have to hang out to find positions in this
> this industry: ;)
That depends what "positions" you want. If you want to be part of the
disposable talent, head for the San Fernando Valley and be very
pretty/handsome and accommodating, emphasis on the latter.
> http://jobs.perl.org/job/5421
>
> Makes the term "fabulously talented product manager" intriguing, no?
No.
Cheers,
D
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From boss at gregerhaga.net Thu Apr 5 22:35:39 2007
From: boss at gregerhaga.net (Greger)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 08:35:39 +0300
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Programmer position in Palo Alto
In-Reply-To: <20070405194901.GA97167@fu.funkspiel.org>
References: <546DB00222FE5D449DFD73B0204A26B301CE7D0E@USCSCMSC9.na.entroot.biz>
<20070404075830.M64323@gregerhaga.net>
<1175712132.204EEBB2@dl11.dngr.org>
<20070405063214.M2200@gregerhaga.net>
<20070405194901.GA97167@fu.funkspiel.org>
Message-ID: <20070406053436.M21453@gregerhaga.net>
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:49:01 -0700, Quinn Weaver wrote
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:34:35AM +0300, Greger wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > hmm...probably pretty good, just occured to me:would it be a good idea to put
> > jobads in a database table someplace, and autosend them once a week or so(or
> > whatever) to the list? Sure there is jobs.perl.org, but that is sort of a
> > global service.
>
> A more general solution is to search the list archives. A search
> like the following turns up quite a bit:
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?q=job+site%3Amail.pm.org+inurl%3Asanfrancisco-pm&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>
> (That's Googling job site:mail.pm.org inurl:sanfrancisco-pm).
>
> In fact, I'm planning to put a link to that search on our main web page.
> However, I'm held up dealing with some permissions issues on the new
> web server. Coming soon!
>
> Suggestions to refine the search terms are desired (iff they come
> with examples showing that they give better results).
>
> PS: I agree with David and Josh's advice about getting contracts. :)
>
> --
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> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
right, a site for perl jobs in sf area would not exclude social events. It
would be a complement.
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From quinn at fairpath.com Mon Apr 9 13:23:02 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 13:23:02 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [marsee@oreilly.com: UG News: O'Reilly School of
Technology Launches; Discount for Group Members]
Message-ID: <20070409202302.GA38210@fu.funkspiel.org>
Well, O'Reilly's come out with another wild idea. Looks like a
computer science program that actually teaches the practical stuff...
what a concept. ;)
----- Forwarded message from Marsee Henon -----
From: Marsee Henon
To: qw at sf.pm.org
Subject: UG News: O'Reilly School of Technology Launches; Discount for Group Members
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:02:00 -0700
Hi,
We're excited to release the following news. Please share with your
members if you think they will be interested:
The O'Reilly School of Technology has officially opened its virtual
doors with educational offerings for students looking to further or
launch their IT careers, whether they aspire to become alpha geeks or
not. The school is a unique partnership between O'Reilly Media and the
University of Illinois.
Students can earn a Certificate for Professional Development from the
University of Illinois Office of Continuing Education upon completion of
a selected series of courses. Certificates are currently offered in
Client-Side Web Programming, Linux/Unix System Administration, Web
Programming, Open Source Programming, and .NET Programming.
Courses are offered at beginning, intermediate, and advanced levels.
Whether students take the courses individually or with a certificate in
mind, the completion of each course earns Continuing Education Units
from the University of Illinois, and count toward the certificates that
include that course.
For more information about the O'Reilly School of Technology, including
a current list of certificate and courses, see:
Watch the video to see how it works:
And UG Members Receive a 30% Discount!
As an O'Reilly User Group member, you save on all the courses and
certificate series. To redeem, use Promotion Code "ORALL1," good for a
30% discount, in Step #2 of the enrollment process. Each course comes
with a free O'Reilly book and a 7-day money-back guarantee. Register
online:
Group leaders--post a discount banner on your group's site and I'll send
you the book of your choice:
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From david at fetter.org Mon Apr 9 13:46:36 2007
From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 13:46:36 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [marsee@oreilly.com: UG News: O'Reilly School of
Technology Launches; Discount for Group Members]
In-Reply-To: <20070409202302.GA38210@fu.funkspiel.org>
References: <20070409202302.GA38210@fu.funkspiel.org>
Message-ID: <20070409204635.GE27243@fetter.org>
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 01:23:02PM -0700, Quinn Weaver wrote:
> Well, O'Reilly's come out with another wild idea. Looks like a
> computer science program that actually teaches the practical
> stuff... what a concept. ;)
It's truly an amazing concept. I wonder when somebody's going to do
it.
There's nothing "practical" about learning bad habits you'll get by
using MySQL or Rails or whatever the popular foot-gun is this week. :P
Cheers,
Curmudgeony D
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Marsee Henon -----
>
> From: Marsee Henon
> To: qw at sf.pm.org
> Subject: UG News: O'Reilly School of Technology Launches; Discount for Group Members
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:02:00 -0700
>
> Hi,
>
> We're excited to release the following news. Please share with your
> members if you think they will be interested:
>
> The O'Reilly School of Technology has officially opened its virtual
> doors with educational offerings for students looking to further or
> launch their IT careers, whether they aspire to become alpha geeks or
> not. The school is a unique partnership between O'Reilly Media and the
> University of Illinois.
>
> Students can earn a Certificate for Professional Development from the
> University of Illinois Office of Continuing Education upon completion of
> a selected series of courses. Certificates are currently offered in
> Client-Side Web Programming, Linux/Unix System Administration, Web
> Programming, Open Source Programming, and .NET Programming.
>
> Courses are offered at beginning, intermediate, and advanced levels.
> Whether students take the courses individually or with a certificate in
> mind, the completion of each course earns Continuing Education Units
> from the University of Illinois, and count toward the certificates that
> include that course.
>
> For more information about the O'Reilly School of Technology, including
> a current list of certificate and courses, see:
>
>
> Watch the video to see how it works:
>
>
>
> And UG Members Receive a 30% Discount!
>
> As an O'Reilly User Group member, you save on all the courses and
> certificate series. To redeem, use Promotion Code "ORALL1," good for a
> 30% discount, in Step #2 of the enrollment process. Each course comes
> with a free O'Reilly book and a 7-day money-back guarantee. Register
> online:
>
> Group leaders--post a discount banner on your group's site and I'll send
> you the book of your choice:
>
>
> --Marsee Henon
>
> ================================================================
> O'Reilly
> 1005 Gravenstein Highway North
> Sebastopol, CA 95472
> http://ug.oreilly.com/ http://ug.oreilly.com/creativemedia/
> ================================================================
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> --
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From quinn at fairpath.com Tue Apr 10 12:44:17 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:44:17 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [LA.pm] Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 45, Issue 5
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20070410194417.GA52762@fu.funkspiel.org>
Cross-posted to sanfranciso-pm at pm.org because the JSON part may be
of general interest...
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:32:11PM -0700, Nimish Parmar wrote:
> 5) GoF Design Patterns - in Perl
Not always a good idea! See http://perl.plover.com/yak/design/
(If you found that discussion interesting, you should also check out
and http://blog.plover.com/2006/09/11/ .)
> 8) Webservices using Perl
I did a presentation on this topic at SF.pm a couple of few years ago.
If I'm ever in LA, I'm happy to visit you guys and present it.
Take-home message: Don't use SOAP, because it's not interoperable,
even among open-source implementations (e.g. Perl's SOAP::Lite and Apache
Axis, a Java SOAP toolkit).
With the rise of YAML, I think it's a reasonable serialization medium
for RESTful web services. It's certainly easier to handle than XML.
At one of my clients, we decided to use JSON for serialization (with JSON::XS).
YAML is really a subset of JSON; see
http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/yamlIsJson.html .
By using JSON to represent data on the wire, we get to use the same
code for AJAX calls and web services calls. Nice!
--
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http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/
From Dajen.Huang at Sun.COM Fri Apr 13 15:05:52 2007
From: Dajen.Huang at Sun.COM (Dajen Huang)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:05:52 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Question on Perl math
Message-ID: <461FFEC0.2030700@Sun.COM>
Hello,
Does anyone know why Perl put out .00000000001 on the 30th time of the
following calculation, then back to normal on the 82th time?
I use Perl for microprocessor design and that +/-0.000000001 really
kills me. I assume numbers are converted to full 64 bits floating point
then perform the calculation. But still doesn't make sense to me for
this to happen. They are small numbers so no danger of overflow. Plus I
am not doing '1 divided by 3' type of thing. It's a pure add. I know use
Math::BigFloat ; solves the problem. But that is too much trouble for a
simple add.
Thanks a lot.
Dajen
---------------------------------------
#!/bin/perl
# This is run on Solaris 10 Unix box
$a = 3569;
$b = 8.32;
$foo1 = 3569.28;
while ($i++ < 100) {
$foo1 += $b;
print "$foo1\n";
}
----------------------------------------
3577.6
3585.92
3594.24
3602.56
3610.88
3619.2
3627.52
3635.84
3644.16
3652.48
3660.8
3669.12
3677.44
3685.76
3694.08
3702.4
3710.72
3719.04
3727.36
3735.68
3744
3752.32
3760.64
3768.96
3777.28
3785.6
3793.92
3802.24
3810.56
3818.88000000001
3827.20000000001
3835.52000000001
3843.84000000001
3852.16000000001
3860.48000000001
3868.80000000001
3877.12000000001
3885.44000000001
3893.76000000001
3902.08000000001
3910.40000000001
3918.72000000001
3927.04000000001
3935.36000000001
3943.68000000001
3952.00000000001
3960.32000000001
3968.64000000001
3976.96000000001
3985.28000000001
3993.60000000001
4001.92000000001
4010.24000000001
4018.56000000001
4026.88000000001
4035.20000000001
4043.52000000001
4051.84000000001
4060.16000000001
4068.48000000001
4076.80000000001
4085.12000000001
4093.44000000001
4101.76000000001
4110.08000000001
4118.40000000001
4126.72000000001
4135.04000000001
4143.36000000001
4151.68000000001
4160.00000000001
4168.32000000001
4176.64000000001
4184.96000000001
4193.28000000001
4201.60000000001
4209.92000000001
4218.24000000001
4226.56000000001
4234.88000000001
4243.20000000001
4251.52
4259.84
4268.16
4276.48
4284.8
4293.12
4301.44
4309.76
4318.08
4326.4
4334.72
4343.04
4351.36
4359.68
4368
4376.32
4384.64
4392.96
4401.28
From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Apr 13 17:10:03 2007
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:10:03 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Question on Perl math
In-Reply-To: <461FFEC0.2030700@Sun.COM> (Dajen Huang's message of "Fri,
13 Apr 2007 15:05:52 -0700")
References: <461FFEC0.2030700@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <86tzvjak9w.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "Dajen" == Dajen Huang writes:
Dajen> Hello,
Dajen> Does anyone know why Perl put out .00000000001 on the 30th time of the
Dajen> following calculation, then back to normal on the 82th time?
Dajen> I use Perl for microprocessor design and that +/-0.000000001 really
Dajen> kills me. I assume numbers are converted to full 64 bits floating point
Dajen> then perform the calculation. But still doesn't make sense to me for
Dajen> this to happen. They are small numbers so no danger of overflow. Plus I
Dajen> am not doing '1 divided by 3' type of thing. It's a pure add.
But "0.1" is a "1 divided by 3 thing". See the FAQ:
Found in /usr/libdata/perl5/pod/perlfaq4.pod
Why am I getting long decimals (eg, 19.9499999999999) instead of the numbers I should be getting (eg, 19.95)?
Internally, your computer represents floating-point numbers in binary.
Digital (as in powers of two) computers cannot store all numbers
exactly. Some real numbers lose precision in the process. This is a
problem with how computers store numbers and affects all computer
languages, not just Perl.
perlnumber show the gory details of number representations and
conversions.
To limit the number of decimal places in your numbers, you can use the
printf or sprintf function. See the "Floating Point Arithmetic" for more
details.
printf "%.2f", 10/3;
my $number = sprintf "%.2f", 10/3;
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From dan at keller.com Mon Apr 16 19:47:25 2007
From: dan at keller.com (Dan Keller)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:47:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] IDEs and/or Editors
In-Reply-To: <20070223020059.GM18594@linuxmafia.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20070222170215.02759170@mail.keller.com>
<5113C869AE8FD844B3589414188D35A9AD9B13@PHITPR05EXC01.safeway01.ad.safeway.com>
<20070223020059.GM18594@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070416194559.023dc530@mail.keller.com>
At 07:00 PM 2/22/2007, you wrote:
>Quoting Adam Morgan (Adam.Morgan at safeway.com):
>
>...If, OTOH, the desire is full bug-for-bug compatibility with nvi, just
>$ echo "set nocp" >> ~/.vimrc
Did I thank you for this?
The "nocp" option gives me exactly what I'm used to.
Many thanks!
Dan Keller
dan at keller.com
http://www.keller.com/dan
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+1 415 861-4593 (fax)
From vlb at cfcl.com Fri Apr 20 09:30:27 2007
From: vlb at cfcl.com (Vicki Brown)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:30:27 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] JOB: tech writer FTE in Sunnyvale, CA
Message-ID:
The Company that Employs me has a req to hire a fulltime technical writer.
This is not in my group but it's in a group close to mine, in the same
division and under the same senior director. I know the people in the
group and something about the project and can recommend both as good and
interesting/challenging, respectively.
Please forward to anyone you know (high-quality of course! I'd prefer you
recommend people you've worked with and can vouch for) who meets this
description and ask that person to contact me. The job would be onsite in
Sunnyvale, CA.
The ideal candidate should have experience with:
- Content Management Systems
- Documenting APIs
- Describing technical concepts to non technical audiences
- Writing for both technical and non-technical audiences
- Documenting on the web (we use TWiki)
Must be
- Able to to define a framework for documentation for a large
multi-component system
- Able to work self-managed and still provide results (we're not into
micromanaging or babysitting)
--
- Vicki
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From rdm at cfcl.com Tue Apr 24 17:06:50 2007
From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:06:50 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] BASS Meeting (SF), Wed. April 25
Message-ID:
The Beer and Scripting SIG rides again! If you'd like to
eat good Italian food, chat with other local scripters,
and possibly take a look at laptop-demoed scripting hacks,
this is the place to do it!
For your convenience, here are the critical details:
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 (4th. Wed.)
Time: 8:00 pm
Place: Pasquales Pizzeria
701 Irving St. (At 8th. Ave.)
San Francisco, California, USA
415/661-2140
-r
--
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Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development
From quinn at fairpath.com Wed Apr 25 09:13:18 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:13:18 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] BASS Meeting (SF), Wed. April 25
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20070425161318.GA15806@fu.funkspiel.org>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 05:06:50PM -0700, Rich Morin wrote:
> The Beer and Scripting SIG rides again! If you'd like to
> eat good Italian food, chat with other local scripters,
> and possibly take a look at laptop-demoed scripting hacks,
> this is the place to do it!
>
> For your convenience, here are the critical details:
>
> Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 (4th. Wed.)
> Time: 8:00 pm
> Place: Pasquales Pizzeria
> 701 Irving St. (At 8th. Ave.)
> San Francisco, California, USA
> 415/661-2140
Please consider this the official meeting for April. I apologize for
the late notice. Rich, thanks for calling shotgun.
************************************************************************
******************** NOTE THAT THIS IS A WEDNESDAY! ********************
************************************************************************
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From vlb at cfcl.com Fri Apr 27 17:21:58 2007
From: vlb at cfcl.com (Vicki Brown)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:21:58 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] JOB: FT tech writer; Sunnyvale, CA
Message-ID:
> The Company that Employs me has a req to hire a fulltime technical
>writer.
> If you are a high-quality technical writer or know someone who is
> (preferably someone you would hire yourself if you could) please contact
>me.
Here's the official job description:
The Media Platform team is seeking a highly motivated and experienced
Technical Writer with a strong technical background and aptitude. Position
includes writing API and SDK technical documentation, working with
software engineers to create source code examples. The primary users of
the API and SDK documentation are internal and third-party developers
creating applications using Media Suite Web Services.
PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES:
* Write reference documentation for XML, REST, PHP and web service APIs
* Write code examples or rewrite examples provided by engineers
* Contribute to documentation plans and strategy
* Regularly interview senior engineers and other subject matter experts
* Use existing information model to develop structured content
* Adhere to quality standards and documentation guidelines
* Provide error-free and technically accurate documentation that is
consistent across subject areas
* Improve documentation team processes and tools
* Solicit input from internal and external third-party developers who
use Platform Services
REQUIREMENTS:
* Ability to create documentation in HTML without WYSIWYG tools
* Solid understanding of and experience with mark-up languages (XML,
SGML)
* Experience documenting APIs, SDKs, and/or development frameworks
* Understanding of and experience with REST, JSON-RPC, and web services
* Ability to read and write Java, C#, C++, or PHP
* Proficient with word processing, on-line documentation (e.g. Adobe
Acrobat, DocBook, Dreamweaver, Framemaker, WebWorks, doxygen, XML Mind, or
related tools), desk top publishing, and document control techniques
* Good organizational skills and the ability to prioritize among
multiple work items
* Self-starter and resourceful, with the ability to work in a
fast-paced, dynamic environment
* Ability to meet aggressive deadlines while developing good working
partnerships with various members of the product and writing team.
* Writing samples are a must!
PREFERRED SKILLS:
* Experience with Wiki (preferably TWiki)
* Understanding of database concepts and operations
* Ability to interview developers and write structured content based on
information they provide
* Familiar with source code control tools such as CVS, ClearCase, or
SourceSafe
* Experience as a software developer
* Experience with bug tracking tools
* Web design/user interface design a huge plus
EDUCATION AND/OR RELEVANT EXPERIENCE:
* 4+ years experience writing for a software developer audience
* BA or BS in Computer Science, English, Journalism, Technical
Documentation, or related field.
--
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From quinn at fairpath.com Mon Apr 30 14:37:10 2007
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:37:10 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Nominations for the White Camel awards
Message-ID: <20070430213710.GA18657@fu.funkspiel.org>
Here's your chance to nominate a Perl hacker for a White Camel award (I
can think of a few current and former members of this list who deserve
recognition).
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Subject: [pm_groups] White Camel awards nominations
Date: Thursday 26 April 2007 11:24
From: "David H. Adler" ...
Nominations are now open for the White Camel awards, given for
community-oriented contributions to perl (previous winners can be found
at http://www.perl.org/advocacy/white_camel/).
Nominations are open to the public. If you could let your members know
that they can submit them to whitecamel-suggestions at perl.org until the
end of May 31st, that would be swell.
...
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