From joel at fentin.com Tue Aug 1 20:18:48 2006 From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:18:48 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Finding GD.pm In-Reply-To: <44CECC86.7080606@cox.net> References: <44C1D24A.7070704@fentin.com> <44CECC86.7080606@cox.net> Message-ID: <44D01998.9030008@fentin.com> Douglas Wilson wrote: > > > Joel Fentin wrote: >> Can't locate loadable object for module GD in @INC.... > > GD needs to be compiled, you need more than just the perl code. > You'll need to download the whole tar/gz and go through the whole: > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test > make install > > If you need to install in a different directory you can > supply the PREFIX= attribute to the first step: > perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/some/other/directory > > Or if you can't compile on the system, maybe you can find > a binary package for the OS (or get the ppd if it's Windows). > > HTH, > Doug Doug, Thank you for getting back to me. I'm still stuck. And I want to learn this, because it wont be the last time this is an issue for me. Much of the above is Greek to me. I have only used Windows and before that DOS. GD is installed in my computer and working. I need it on a server. 1. Are you saying that I should download the tar/GZ and then upload it to the server via ftp? 2. Are you saying I should run these programs on the server? perl Makefile.PL make make test make install 3. None of these programs mention GD. Is there something automatic about GD? -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 Email me: http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html Biz Website: http://fentin.com Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me From dgwilson1 at cox.net Wed Aug 2 08:46:27 2006 From: dgwilson1 at cox.net (Douglas Wilson) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:46:27 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Finding GD.pm In-Reply-To: <44D01998.9030008@fentin.com> References: <44C1D24A.7070704@fentin.com> <44CECC86.7080606@cox.net> <44D01998.9030008@fentin.com> Message-ID: <44D0C8D3.5030508@cox.net> Joel Fentin wrote: > Much of the above is Greek to me. I have only used Windows and before > that DOS. GD is installed in my computer and working. I need it on a > server. > > 1. Are you saying that I should download the tar/GZ and then upload it > to the server via ftp? Is the server Unix/Linux, or is it Windows (ActiveState perl)? If it is Windows, then I would get the ppd package from ActiveState. But otherwise, yes, download the tar/gz and upload it to the server. > > 2. Are you saying I should run these programs on the server? > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test > make install > > 3. None of these programs mention GD. Is there something automatic about > GD? This is the "normal" install process that most people not on Windows go through (note: I'm not going to get into CPAN.pm and CPANPLUS.pm for now which are basically shortcuts for the above if you know how to use them). After you unpack the tar/gz file, you cd to the directory, where there should be a Makefile.PL file, and then you run the above commands. If GD has other dependencies, then it should complain during "perl Makefile.PL" and you'll have to repeat the download/install process for any other modules that need to be installed first. HTH, Doug From joel at fentin.com Wed Aug 2 11:19:40 2006 From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:19:40 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Finding GD.pm In-Reply-To: <44D0C8D3.5030508@cox.net> References: <44C1D24A.7070704@fentin.com> <44CECC86.7080606@cox.net> <44D01998.9030008@fentin.com> <44D0C8D3.5030508@cox.net> Message-ID: <44D0ECBC.6020906@fentin.com> Douglas Wilson wrote: > > > Joel Fentin wrote: > >> Much of the above is Greek to me. I have only used Windows and before >> that DOS. GD is installed in my computer and working. I need it on a >> server. >> >> 1. Are you saying that I should download the tar/GZ and then upload it >> to the server via ftp? > > Is the server Unix/Linux, or is it Windows (ActiveState perl)? > > If it is Windows, then I would get the ppd package from ActiveState. > > But otherwise, yes, download the tar/gz and upload it to the server. > >> >> 2. Are you saying I should run these programs on the server? >> perl Makefile.PL >> make >> make test >> make install >> >> 3. None of these programs mention GD. Is there something automatic >> about GD? > > This is the "normal" install process that most people not on Windows > go through (note: I'm not going to get into CPAN.pm and CPANPLUS.pm for > now which are basically shortcuts for the above if you know how to use > them). > > After you unpack the tar/gz file, you cd to the directory, where there > should be a Makefile.PL file, and then you run the above commands. > If GD has other dependencies, then it should complain during > "perl Makefile.PL" and you'll have to repeat the download/install > process for any other modules that need to be installed first. > > HTH, > Doug ========================= ========================= Doug, You didn't quite address my questions. When you say "unpack the tar/gz file", do you mean I ftp them to the server first and unpack them there? Which of the 4 commands you mentioned is the one that unpacks it? When you say "...where there should be a Makefile.PL file...", do you mean to say that I should ftp Makefile.PL up to the server? Remember, I have no direct access to anything perl on the server. Only htdocs and cgi-bin. My idea is to get this into cgi-bin or a subdirectory thereof. Again, since none of the 4 commands mention GD, is there something automatic about GD so that its presence is known? -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 Email me: http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html Biz Website: http://fentin.com Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me From brick at fastpack.com Wed Aug 2 11:35:52 2006 From: brick at fastpack.com (Brick Robbins) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:35:52 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Finding GD.pm In-Reply-To: <44D0ECBC.6020906@fentin.com> References: <44C1D24A.7070704@fentin.com> <44CECC86.7080606@cox.net> <44D01998.9030008@fentin.com> <44D0C8D3.5030508@cox.net> <44D0ECBC.6020906@fentin.com> Message-ID: Joel: you didn't address Doug's question: is the server *nix or Windows? The proceedure is very different. Since you said you have access to cgi-bin and htdocs, it sounds like you are on a Linux or Unix server running Apache. > When you say "unpack the tar/gz file", do you mean I ftp them to the > server first and unpack them there? Which of the 4 commands you > mentioned is the one that unpacks it? If you dont' know what "unpack the tar/gz file" means, then I think you need to get some basic Unix instruction that is beyond the scope of this Perl mailing list. Try this: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ In any event, there is LOTS of information generally available on installing perl modules from a google search for "installing perl modules" On 8/2/06, Joel Fentin wrote: > Douglas Wilson wrote: > > > > > > Joel Fentin wrote: > > > >> Much of the above is Greek to me. I have only used Windows and before > >> that DOS. GD is installed in my computer and working. I need it on a > >> server. > >> > >> 1. Are you saying that I should download the tar/GZ and then upload it > >> to the server via ftp? > > > > Is the server Unix/Linux, or is it Windows (ActiveState perl)? > > > > If it is Windows, then I would get the ppd package from ActiveState. > > > > But otherwise, yes, download the tar/gz and upload it to the server. > > > >> > >> 2. Are you saying I should run these programs on the server? > >> perl Makefile.PL > >> make > >> make test > >> make install > >> > >> 3. None of these programs mention GD. Is there something automatic > >> about GD? > > > > This is the "normal" install process that most people not on Windows > > go through (note: I'm not going to get into CPAN.pm and CPANPLUS.pm for > > now which are basically shortcuts for the above if you know how to use > > them). > > > > After you unpack the tar/gz file, you cd to the directory, where there > > should be a Makefile.PL file, and then you run the above commands. > > If GD has other dependencies, then it should complain during > > "perl Makefile.PL" and you'll have to repeat the download/install > > process for any other modules that need to be installed first. > > > > HTH, > > Doug > ========================= > ========================= > Doug, You didn't quite address my questions. > > When you say "unpack the tar/gz file", do you mean I ftp them to the > server first and unpack them there? Which of the 4 commands you > mentioned is the one that unpacks it? > > When you say "...where there should be a Makefile.PL file...", do you > mean to say that I should ftp Makefile.PL up to the server? > > Remember, I have no direct access to anything perl on the server. Only > htdocs and cgi-bin. My idea is to get this into cgi-bin or a > subdirectory thereof. > > Again, since none of the 4 commands mention GD, is there something > automatic about GD so that its presence is known? > > -- > Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 > Email me: http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html > Biz Website: http://fentin.com > Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > -- Brick Robbins brick at fastpack.com From emileaben at gmail.com Wed Aug 2 11:37:19 2006 From: emileaben at gmail.com (Emile Aben) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:37:19 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Finding GD.pm In-Reply-To: <44D0ECBC.6020906@fentin.com> References: <44C1D24A.7070704@fentin.com> <44CECC86.7080606@cox.net> <44D01998.9030008@fentin.com> <44D0C8D3.5030508@cox.net> <44D0ECBC.6020906@fentin.com> Message-ID: <28e00a750608021137v57e8740cr61163cb2712058e6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Joel, How about some people guiding you through the process of installing this module at the next PM meeting? I would certainly be willing to help you (which would prevent me from sending long emails that are not very helpful to you). Emile On 8/2/06, Joel Fentin wrote: > Douglas Wilson wrote: > > > > > > Joel Fentin wrote: > > > >> Much of the above is Greek to me. I have only used Windows and before > >> that DOS. GD is installed in my computer and working. I need it on a > >> server. > >> > >> 1. Are you saying that I should download the tar/GZ and then upload it > >> to the server via ftp? > > > > Is the server Unix/Linux, or is it Windows (ActiveState perl)? > > > > If it is Windows, then I would get the ppd package from ActiveState. > > > > But otherwise, yes, download the tar/gz and upload it to the server. > > > >> > >> 2. Are you saying I should run these programs on the server? > >> perl Makefile.PL > >> make > >> make test > >> make install > >> > >> 3. None of these programs mention GD. Is there something automatic > >> about GD? > > > > This is the "normal" install process that most people not on Windows > > go through (note: I'm not going to get into CPAN.pm and CPANPLUS.pm for > > now which are basically shortcuts for the above if you know how to use > > them). > > > > After you unpack the tar/gz file, you cd to the directory, where there > > should be a Makefile.PL file, and then you run the above commands. > > If GD has other dependencies, then it should complain during > > "perl Makefile.PL" and you'll have to repeat the download/install > > process for any other modules that need to be installed first. > > > > HTH, > > Doug > ========================= > ========================= > Doug, You didn't quite address my questions. > > When you say "unpack the tar/gz file", do you mean I ftp them to the > server first and unpack them there? Which of the 4 commands you > mentioned is the one that unpacks it? > > When you say "...where there should be a Makefile.PL file...", do you > mean to say that I should ftp Makefile.PL up to the server? > > Remember, I have no direct access to anything perl on the server. Only > htdocs and cgi-bin. My idea is to get this into cgi-bin or a > subdirectory thereof. > > Again, since none of the 4 commands mention GD, is there something > automatic about GD so that its presence is known? > > -- > Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 > Email me: http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html > Biz Website: http://fentin.com > Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > From chung at scripps.edu Wed Aug 2 11:44:02 2006 From: chung at scripps.edu (chung) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:44:02 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Finding GD.pm Message-ID: <44D18906@neo> Howdy just sounds like Joel's on a limited shared hosting environ where he can't compile things as he'd like to do. it's not even clear if he has ssh access to the machine at this stage. it sounds like you need to contact the hosting company to install GD libs for you first even if you can install an associated perl module for it locally. just my 2cents.... john chung scripps research institute >===== Original Message From "Emile Aben" ===== >Hi Joel, > >How about some people guiding you through the process of installing >this module at the next PM meeting? I would certainly be willing to >help you (which would >prevent me from sending long emails that are not very helpful to you). > > >Emile > >On 8/2/06, Joel Fentin wrote: >> Douglas Wilson wrote: >> > >> > >> > Joel Fentin wrote: >> > >> >> Much of the above is Greek to me. I have only used Windows and before >> >> that DOS. GD is installed in my computer and working. I need it on a >> >> server. >> >> >> >> 1. Are you saying that I should download the tar/GZ and then upload it >> >> to the server via ftp? >> > >> > Is the server Unix/Linux, or is it Windows (ActiveState perl)? >> > >> > If it is Windows, then I would get the ppd package from ActiveState. >> > >> > But otherwise, yes, download the tar/gz and upload it to the server. >> > >> >> >> >> 2. Are you saying I should run these programs on the server? >> >> perl Makefile.PL >> >> make >> >> make test >> >> make install >> >> >> >> 3. None of these programs mention GD. Is there something automatic >> >> about GD? >> > >> > This is the "normal" install process that most people not on Windows >> > go through (note: I'm not going to get into CPAN.pm and CPANPLUS.pm for >> > now which are basically shortcuts for the above if you know how to use >> > them). >> > >> > After you unpack the tar/gz file, you cd to the directory, where there >> > should be a Makefile.PL file, and then you run the above commands. >> > If GD has other dependencies, then it should complain during >> > "perl Makefile.PL" and you'll have to repeat the download/install >> > process for any other modules that need to be installed first. >> > >> > HTH, >> > Doug >> ========================= >> ========================= >> Doug, You didn't quite address my questions. >> >> When you say "unpack the tar/gz file", do you mean I ftp them to the >> server first and unpack them there? Which of the 4 commands you >> mentioned is the one that unpacks it? >> >> When you say "...where there should be a Makefile.PL file...", do you >> mean to say that I should ftp Makefile.PL up to the server? >> >> Remember, I have no direct access to anything perl on the server. Only >> htdocs and cgi-bin. My idea is to get this into cgi-bin or a >> subdirectory thereof. >> >> Again, since none of the 4 commands mention GD, is there something >> automatic about GD so that its presence is known? >> >> -- >> Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 >> Email me: http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html >> Biz Website: http://fentin.com >> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me >> _______________________________________________ >> San-Diego-pm mailing list >> San-Diego-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm >> >_______________________________________________ >San-Diego-pm mailing list >San-Diego-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm From rkleeman at energoncube.net Wed Aug 9 14:10:21 2006 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:10:21 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting on Monday! Message-ID: <20060809211021.GH7023@energoncube.net> Fellow Perl Mongers, Monday we will be having our monthly meeting at the Panera Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd. Come to meet and greet your Perl buddies and chat about various topics. We'll start around 7 PM, so come on by. Oh, and if anyone wants a T-Shirt, speak up *now*. Send me email for more info, if you haven't already. From chris at chrisgrau.com Thu Aug 10 15:34:56 2006 From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:34:56 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting on Monday! In-Reply-To: <20060809211021.GH7023@energoncube.net> References: <20060809211021.GH7023@energoncube.net> Message-ID: <20060810223455.GA11129@chrisgrau.com> On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 02:10:21PM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote: > Fellow Perl Mongers, > > Monday we will be having our monthly meeting at the Panera Bread on > Mira Mesa Blvd. Come to meet and greet your Perl buddies and chat > about various topics. We'll start around 7 PM, so come on by. Looking forward to it. I'll be there to relate some OSCON stories. > Oh, and if anyone wants a T-Shirt, speak up *now*. Send me email for > more info, if you haven't already. I'd like one. What do I need to know/do? -chris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/san-diego-pm/attachments/20060810/1c2dc19d/attachment.bin From rkleeman at energoncube.net Mon Aug 14 10:27:55 2006 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:27:55 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting Tonight! Message-ID: <20060814172755.GB862@energoncube.net> Hello San Diego, Just a reminder that there is a meeting tonight, so if you're interested, please come on down to the Panera Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd tonight around 7 PM. We'll be chatting about this, that, and the other things, so bring whatever questions, comments, concerns, or querries you may have. From menolly at mib.org Mon Aug 14 10:36:35 2006 From: menolly at mib.org (Menolly) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting Tonight! In-Reply-To: <20060814172755.GB862@energoncube.net> References: <20060814172755.GB862@energoncube.net> Message-ID: I'll be there around 8:30, I think -- in addition to my usual yoga class, I need to run by Office Depot this evening. On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Bob Kleemann wrote: > Hello San Diego, > > Just a reminder that there is a meeting tonight, so if you're interested, > please come on down to the Panera Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd tonight around > 7 PM. We'll be chatting about this, that, and the other things, so bring > whatever questions, comments, concerns, or querries you may have. > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > -- menolly at mib.org http://www.livejournal.com/~nolly/ On that day, many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?" And then will I declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from me you evildoers." -- Matt 7:20-23, RSV From emileaben at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 23:43:01 2006 From: emileaben at gmail.com (Emile Aben) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:43:01 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] pointer from the August 2006 meeting Message-ID: <28e00a750608142343y2985e46aq128428ffb7ad8e8c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, A link I promised to post from the Aug 2006 meeting: * PLEAC - Programming Language Examples Alike Cookbook: http://pleac.sourceforge.net/ emile