From rkleeman at energoncube.net Tue Jul 8 16:22:19 2003 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:48 2004 Subject: Local Company looking for some Perl help Message-ID: <20030708212219.GF18500@energoncube.net> ~sdpm~ I'm forwarding this on from someone who is looking for a Perl programmer to help him debug some issues. If you are interested, please contact him. ----- Forwarded message from User Support ----- From: User Support To: 'Bob Kleemann' Subject: RE: Perl Mongers Importance: Normal Bob: I am up in north county / oceanside. Right now I need the CGI error on this wwwboard troubleshot: http://www.100insurers.com/amica3.htm http://www.100insurers.com/allstate3.htm I have a dedicated server with about 90 websites, so we are always doing something. I prefer to start small with someone new. You can have them call me at 619-709-4595 or 760-967-9259. Sincerely, C Casey User Support Team Annuity & Insurance Gateway http://www.deferred.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kleemann [mailto:rkleeman@energoncube.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:12 PM To: User Support Subject: Re: Perl Mongers Craig, I know of several good programmers in the area, some are even looking for jobs. What exactly are you looking for? On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 01:48:55PM -0700, User Support wrote: > Bob: > > Do you kow any good local programmers? I am tired of using the ones > in russia that only know php. I have tried to learn perl several times > myself but just get frustrated. Maybe there is a "perl for complete > idiots" book out there. > > Craig Casey > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at energoncube.net Fri Jul 11 16:59:52 2003 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:48 2004 Subject: Updating HTML docs? In-Reply-To: <3F0F1668.8060209@schnapp.org> References: <20030708212219.GF18500@energoncube.net> <3F0F1668.8060209@schnapp.org> Message-ID: <20030711215952.GD12114@energoncube.net> ~sdpm~ On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:56:24PM -0700, Russ Schnapp wrote: > > I am virtually certain that this question will result in my > embarrassment, but what the heck... > > ActiveState Perl, on the Windows platforms, comes with a very nice > HTML-ified version of the POD documentation embedded in the library they > distribute with it. > > Using ppm and cpan, I've since added more goodies to the /perl/site/lib. > Is there some way to invoke, e.g., Pod::Html's pod2html() to > automatically rebuild the HTML documentation, including *everything* now > in /perl/site/lib? > > I see that /perl/bin/pod2html.bat seems to have batch-ified an > invocation of pod2html, but it doesn't seem to provide the requisite > default arguments. > > Any suggestions? I'd love to be able to answer your question directly, but I don't have much experience with ActiveState Perl. My first suggestion would be to ask the local Perl Mongers list. If that doesn't work out for you, I'd try searching ActiveState's website for a FAQ or something else along those lines. ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rlssdpm at schnapp.org Fri Jul 11 17:09:58 2003 From: rlssdpm at schnapp.org (Russ Schnapp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:48 2004 Subject: Updating HTML docs? References: <20030708212219.GF18500@energoncube.net> <3F0F1668.8060209@schnapp.org> <20030711215952.GD12114@energoncube.net> Message-ID: <3F0F35B6.9080500@schnapp.org> ~sdpm~ Well, I'm embarrassed already, Bob! I intended to send that message to the SDPM list, which is why I switched to my encoded email address (rlssdpm@schnapp.org). Apparently, I only sent it to you. Argh. I followed netiquette and searched ActiveState's FAQs before asking. I've even (since) Googled the question -- and the results seem to indicate that my embarrassment about the question may be unjustified. Others have commented on this gaping hole. For what it's worth, I ended up manually running pod2html for the group of modules in which I'm interested. And then I manually edited perltoc.html, to incorporate the generated files. It should be relatively easy to build a perl script to do the rebuild, but I don't think I'm going to find the time in the very near future... Thanks for the response! ...Russ On 7/11/2003 2:59 PM, Bob Kleemann wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:56:24PM -0700, Russ Schnapp wrote: >> >> I am virtually certain that this question will result in my >> embarrassment, but what the heck... >> >> ActiveState Perl, on the Windows platforms, comes with a very nice >> HTML-ified version of the POD documentation embedded in the library they >> distribute with it. >> >> Using ppm and cpan, I've since added more goodies to the /perl/site/lib. >> Is there some way to invoke, e.g., Pod::Html's pod2html() to >> automatically rebuild the HTML documentation, including *everything* now >> in /perl/site/lib? >> >> I see that /perl/bin/pod2html.bat seems to have batch-ified an >> invocation of pod2html, but it doesn't seem to provide the requisite >> default arguments. >> >> Any suggestions? > > I'd love to be able to answer your question directly, but I don't have > much experience with ActiveState Perl. My first suggestion would be to > ask the local Perl Mongers list. If that doesn't work out for you, I'd > try searching ActiveState's website for a FAQ or something else along > those lines. > > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rlssdpm at schnapp.org Fri Jul 11 17:44:13 2003 From: rlssdpm at schnapp.org (Russ Schnapp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Updating HTML docs? References: Message-ID: <3F0F3DBD.1060400@schnapp.org> ~sdpm~ On 7/11/2003 3:22 PM, Stewart, Alan SPAWAR wrote: > I use this from the ActivePerl docs under ActivePerl::DocTools; > > #!perl > > # update HTML TOC after non-ppm installation > > use ActivePerl::DocTools; > > ActivePerl::DocTools::WriteTOC(); > Well, shiver my timbers! (Can you tell I've seen Pirates of the Carribean?) How the heck did you discover that? I see the module in site/lib/ActivePerl, but the html documentatino I've got doesn't even mention an ActivePerl module! Thanks, Alan. I'm going to try it. ...Russ ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rlssdpm at schnapp.org Fri Jul 11 17:53:27 2003 From: rlssdpm at schnapp.org (Russ Schnapp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Updating HTML docs? References: Message-ID: <3F0F3FE7.7060708@schnapp.org> ~sdpm~ On 7/11/2003 3:22 PM, Stewart, Alan SPAWAR wrote: > I use this from the ActivePerl docs under ActivePerl::DocTools; > > #!perl > > # update HTML TOC after non-ppm installation > > use ActivePerl::DocTools; > > ActivePerl::DocTools::WriteTOC(); > > This (re)generates the TOC from any and all HTML in the dir tree. Actually, from looking at DocTools.pm, it sure looks like what I want to do is ActivePerl::DocTools::UpdateHTML(); ...which will go through all the modules (in @INC, presumably -- I am as yet unfamiliar with Pod::Find::pod_find()) and build the HTML documentation. And THEN it also invokes WriteTOC(). ...Russ ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at energoncube.net Mon Jul 14 17:49:11 2003 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Meeting tommorow Message-ID: <20030714224911.GE1638@energoncube.net> ~sdpm~ "Is it that time already?" Yup, there is a meeting tommorow evening. It will be at the same time, 7PM, at the same location, the food court at UTC by the Rubio's and the Cinabon. What are we going to talk about this month? Well, why don't you come by and find out. Bring your own questions, if you have any, and we'll hopefully go through a bunch of good topics. ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From tdrsubs_2003 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 00:10:41 2003 From: tdrsubs_2003 at yahoo.com (Todd Rockhold) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Meeting tommorow In-Reply-To: <20030714224911.GE1638@energoncube.net> Message-ID: <20030715051041.91626.qmail@web41706.mail.yahoo.com> OK. I have been threatening to do this for the last couple of months but haven't delivered yet. A question for the list and/or meeting attendees: What is the most important Perl module not written yet? Or, alternatively, the most important Perl module which hasn't been updated for a long time and needs to be? Unfortunately, it looks like a strong bet that I will not be able to attend the meeting tomorrow night. Bob Kleemann wrote: ~sdpm~ "Is it that time already?" Yup, there is a meeting tommorow evening. It will be at the same time, 7PM, at the same location, the food court at UTC by the Rubio's and the Cinabon. What are we going to talk about this month? Well, why don't you come by and find out. Bring your own questions, if you have any, and we'll hopefully go through a bunch of good topics. ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/san-diego-pm/attachments/20030714/9654cd2f/attachment.htm From joel at fentin.com Mon Jul 14 21:10:35 2003 From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Possible meeting topics for the future In-Reply-To: <20030714224911.GE1638@energoncube.net> References: <20030714224911.GE1638@energoncube.net> Message-ID: <3F13629B.2040804@fentin.com> ~sdpm~ Code changes when converting from perl to mod perl templating integrating html & perl server issues error handling debug techniques experiences on different web hosts server side includes web security session tracking without cookies How to dump a database or file to a user's computer OOP perl Vs. HTML Making code work in all browsers -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 email: joel@fentin.com Biz: http://fentin.com Personal: http://fentin.com/me/ ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From sjw at lemniscate.net Tue Jul 15 13:07:00 2003 From: sjw at lemniscate.net (Steve J. West) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Meeting tommorow In-Reply-To: <20030715051041.91626.qmail@web41706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ~sdpm~ On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Todd Rockhold wrote: > A question for the list and/or meeting attendees: > > What is the most important Perl module not written yet? Or, alternatively, the most important Perl module which hasn't been updated for a long time and needs to be? Does strict count? That surely is the most important module of all. :-) > Bob Kleemann wrote: > Yup, there is a meeting tommorow evening. It will be at the same > time, 7PM, at the same location, the food court at UTC by the Rubio's > and the Cinabon. Hey, LD2! Can you make this one? It would be good for us to finally meet face to face. ~W ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From dgwilson at gtemail.net Tue Jul 15 17:43:34 2003 From: dgwilson at gtemail.net (Douglas Wilson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: Meeting tommorow Message-ID: <20030715224335.11266.qmail@verizonmail.com> ~sdpm~ From: "Steve J. West" > Does strict count? That surely is the most important module of all. :-) Strictly speaking (haha), strict is a pragma, not a module. I leave as an exercise figuring out what the difference is. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free Verizonmail at www.verizonmail.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at energoncube.net Sun Jul 20 18:22:43 2003 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: [tmornini@infomania.com: Local Perl Job Fairs?] Message-ID: <20030720232243.GB3247@energoncube.net> ~sdpm~ I do not know this person or anything about him. This email has a strong smell of mass mailing rather than a legitimate inquiry, but if you are interested please contact him and let us know how it goes. ----- Forwarded message from Tom Mornini ----- Subject: Local Perl Job Fairs? From: Tom Mornini To: Tom Mornini Hello! I obtained your email address from www.perl.org as the coordinator of a local Perl Mongers group. I'm a Perl programming professional that does contracting work on the side. During a recent meeting with a large employer in Seattle, it was explained to me that they were looking for a large number of highly qualified Perl programmers during the next 12 months. They are looking for full time employees willing to move to Seattle. This company is a major concern that offers stability, good pay, benefits and perks. They are nearly 100% mod_perl/Mason. They prefer full time employees onsite for many reasons, and have little interest in contractors of any sort, particular offsite contractors. Any Perl Monger looking for a job and willing to move to Seattle would likely jump at the opportunity to work for this company. It occurred to me that rather than acting as contractor, or employee, I might benefit more by recruiting Perl programmers for them. With the current job market and relative lack of Perl jobs (compared to Java and Microsoft technologies, bleh) the timing seems ideal. That's why I'm writing you. Your group may provide access to a large and concentrated group of talented Perl programmers, some of which might be looking for a new opportunity. I'd like to access your members to gauge their interest. If enough qualified people are interested, then I could schedule to attend a meeting and meet the potential candidates in person. Meeting the people in person is very important. While this company is absolutely looking for the top Perl talent they are also looking for communications skills, social skills, situational awareness and business saavy in addition. I feel that these additional attributes are best judged in person. Would this be of interest to you and your group members? If so, how can we arrange to advertise this opportunity and gauge interest? Thanks for your time. I'm eagerly awaiting your response. -- -- Tom Mornini -- -- ICQ: 113526784, AOL, Yahoo, MSN and Jabber: tmornini ----- End forwarded message ----- ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From cabney at ucsd.edu Tue Jul 22 14:41:24 2003 From: cabney at ucsd.edu (C. Abney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:49 2004 Subject: !@#$!#@$ binmode in GD Message-ID: <1058902642.1123.900.camel@vespa> ~sdpm~ Hmm. I wonder who decided binmode would become mandatory for using GD... Or am I just doing something wrong? I mean, besides wasting three hours chasing this thing down. Grmblmbl Yours, Charles -- Charles Abney Polymorphism Research Laboratory, 0603 UCSD School of Medicine 9500 Gilman Dr. La Jolla, CA 92093-0603 ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human.