From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 6 16:50:23 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Local Rochester Party for "Digital Professionals" Message-ID: Hey everyone, Just got wind of this organization. It's a group of people in Rochester who are organizing "networking" type parties around the city. This next party is at Tonic on East Ave, Sept 14. This would probably be a good place to evangalize Rochester.PM, as well as a good place for any of us to gain contacts, etc. I was thinking of feeling out the scene, then maybe handing out Rochester.PM flyers, etc. Before I do that though, I think we need to settle on a meeting place. U of R has been mentioned. Anyway, for more info on the gathering: http://www.digitalrochester.com/ -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Fri Sep 8 10:24:32 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Interview with Larry Wall on Perl 6 Message-ID: Here's an interview with Larry Wall on Perl 6. 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NOTE: Please make certain to unsubscribe from the email address at which you receive this message For non-automated human help email onperl@oreillynet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 20 13:44:38 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? Message-ID: Hello everyone, Sorry this is so late, but I've been offline for the past few weeks. Only got back on last night. Anyway, Going by the schedule (3rd Wednesday of the month), today would be a meeting. Seeing as this is pretty short notice, how many people would be interested in having one? Jonathan has a room for us at UofR that we can use. I've also got some review copies of ORA books for anyone who wants to write a review. I guess everythings probably good except the time element. Please give me some feedback, thanks. -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com Wed Sep 20 15:27:37 2000 From: Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com (Dao, Thomas H) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? Message-ID: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAE9@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> how about 8:00 pm? what room? -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mathis [mailto:bmathis@directedge.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:45 PM To: rochester-pm-list@pm.org Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? Hello everyone, Sorry this is so late, but I've been offline for the past few weeks. Only got back on last night. Anyway, Going by the schedule (3rd Wednesday of the month), today would be a meeting. Seeing as this is pretty short notice, how many people would be interested in having one? Jonathan has a room for us at UofR that we can use. I've also got some review copies of ORA books for anyone who wants to write a review. I guess everythings probably good except the time element. Please give me some feedback, thanks. -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 20 16:10:14 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? In-Reply-To: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAE9@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: Heh, what I meant was, is this too short of notice. I dunno, seeing as it's already 5:00, I guess we should forget about it for this month. I'm planning on revamping the web site soon, so if anyone has any ideas, or wants to help out, let me know. :) On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dao, Thomas H wrote: > how about 8:00 pm? what room? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Mathis [mailto:bmathis@directedge.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:45 PM > To: rochester-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? > > > Hello everyone, > > Sorry this is so late, but I've been offline for the past few weeks. Only > got back on last night. > > Anyway, Going by the schedule (3rd Wednesday of the month), today would be > a meeting. Seeing as this is pretty short notice, how many people would > be interested in having one? Jonathan has a room for us at UofR that we > can use. I've also got some review copies of ORA books for anyone who > wants to write a review. > > I guess everythings probably good except the time element. Please give me > some feedback, thanks. > > -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From jpt at cif.rochester.edu Wed Sep 20 16:24:55 2000 From: jpt at cif.rochester.edu (Jonathan P Tomer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:27:37 EDT." <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAE9@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <200009202124.RAA21945@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> > how about 8:00 pm? what room? The room is 703 in the Computer Studies Building. Directions by car: Enter the UR campus from the main (Elmwood Ave) entrance, and turn right at the first stop sign. Take a right into the parking lot (Trustee Rd. Lot). The gate should be open since it's after 5pm. Park in the lot and cross Trustee Road to get to the Computer Studies Building; it's the big one with blue windows and a revolving door directly in front of the crosswalk. Go in and turn right; take the elevators up to the seventh floor. The room I have reserved is 703 (turn left off the elevators and follow the halls for a bit). Hope to see someone there... if there doesn't happen to be anyone around who knows what to do at a PM meeting (i sure don't :p) then we can all go home again or something. -- j. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com Wed Sep 20 16:53:23 2000 From: Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com (Dao, Thomas H) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? Message-ID: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAEA@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> I think the meeting has been called off. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan P Tomer [mailto:jpt@cif.rochester.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:25 PM To: rochester-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? > how about 8:00 pm? what room? The room is 703 in the Computer Studies Building. Directions by car: Enter the UR campus from the main (Elmwood Ave) entrance, and turn right at the first stop sign. Take a right into the parking lot (Trustee Rd. Lot). The gate should be open since it's after 5pm. Park in the lot and cross Trustee Road to get to the Computer Studies Building; it's the big one with blue windows and a revolving door directly in front of the crosswalk. Go in and turn right; take the elevators up to the seventh floor. The room I have reserved is 703 (turn left off the elevators and follow the halls for a bit). Hope to see someone there... if there doesn't happen to be anyone around who knows what to do at a PM meeting (i sure don't :p) then we can all go home again or something. -- j. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com Wed Sep 20 16:53:47 2000 From: Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com (Dao, Thomas H) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? Message-ID: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAEB@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> maybe we can schedule one next week. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan P Tomer [mailto:jpt@cif.rochester.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:25 PM To: rochester-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? > how about 8:00 pm? what room? The room is 703 in the Computer Studies Building. Directions by car: Enter the UR campus from the main (Elmwood Ave) entrance, and turn right at the first stop sign. Take a right into the parking lot (Trustee Rd. Lot). The gate should be open since it's after 5pm. Park in the lot and cross Trustee Road to get to the Computer Studies Building; it's the big one with blue windows and a revolving door directly in front of the crosswalk. Go in and turn right; take the elevators up to the seventh floor. The room I have reserved is 703 (turn left off the elevators and follow the halls for a bit). Hope to see someone there... if there doesn't happen to be anyone around who knows what to do at a PM meeting (i sure don't :p) then we can all go home again or something. -- j. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From jpt at cif.rochester.edu Wed Sep 20 17:38:40 2000 From: jpt at cif.rochester.edu (Jonathan P Tomer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:53:47 EDT." <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAEB@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <200009202238.SAA02741@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> > maybe we can schedule one next week. ok... well, the same room will be available next week too. -- j. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Thu Sep 21 23:48:02 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] test message Message-ID: <39CAE482.E19A8231@directedge.com> I changed the subject prefix on the list, it was a little too long :) This is a test. -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Fri Sep 22 18:55:17 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] Re: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? References: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CAEB@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <39CBF165.A3E649C8@directedge.com> Good idea. How does Wednesday, Sep 27th sound? 8:00pm Here's some things we can talk about: - O'Reilly books: I've got a review copy of "CGI Programming with Perl". Now we need someone to take the book home, read through it, and write up a review of it (at least a few paragraphs). - We should decide if the person doing the review gets to keep the book :) - other Perl related stuff :) "Dao, Thomas H" wrote: > > maybe we can schedule one next week. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan P Tomer [mailto:jpt@cif.rochester.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:25 PM > To: rochester-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? > > > how about 8:00 pm? what room? > > The room is 703 in the Computer Studies Building. Directions by car: > > Enter the UR campus from the main (Elmwood Ave) entrance, and turn right > at the first stop sign. Take a right into the parking lot (Trustee Rd. > Lot). The gate should be open since it's after 5pm. Park in the lot and > cross Trustee Road to get to the Computer Studies Building; it's the big > one with blue windows and a revolving door directly in front of the > crosswalk. Go in and turn right; take the elevators up to the seventh > floor. The room I have reserved is 703 (turn left off the elevators and > follow the halls for a bit). > > Hope to see someone there... if there doesn't happen to be anyone around > who knows what to do at a PM meeting (i sure don't :p) then we can all > go home again or something. > > -- j. > "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight > straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" > PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt > -- > For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit > http://rochester.pm.org > -- > For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Tue Sep 26 12:06:27 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] [Fwd: Boston.pm BBQ social] Message-ID: <39D0D793.6FDB40F8@directedge.com> Anyone going to be in Boston this weekend? I'd be willing to bet that all of the Perl bigwigs will be here... -- Brian Mathis -------- Original Message -------- From: Uri Guttman Subject: Boston.pm BBQ social To: groups@lists.panix.com to all perl groups: boston.pm is having a big BBQ bash this sunday, october 1. i am inviting all pm types who can make it to this party. so please forward this to your local list if you think anyone would be interested in attending. please rsvp to sean and note that this is a potluck and follow the instructions to see what kind of dish you should bring. thanx, uri ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: Sean Quinlan Subject: [Boston.pm] BBQ social Good afternoon everyone! I've got the baby today, and he's been a bit fussy, so I'm writing this in snippits. Please let me know if I miss something. OK, here's the details. I am hosting a mongers social on Sunday, October 1st. It is planned as an outdoor event (ok so the subject BBQ social probably gave that away), so let's hope the weathers good! ;-} We live in a house on the same property as the horse farm where my wife works (no, we don't own it). It's called Rising Star Equestrian Center (http://www.risingstareqctr.com), and sits on 15 acres, with a pond, paddocks, etc. This is a potluck event,. I will provide grill and charcoal, a case or two of beer, a Frisbee, and some paper plates and plastic utensils (thanks BJ's!). Uri submitted a suggestion for low maintenance potluck organization that seems like a fine guideline. "one idea we use is to have people bring dishes from a category based on the initial of their last name: A-E appetizers F-J side dishes K-N salads/veggies O-S main dishes T-Z desserts" For those ride sharing or making the long trek by public transportation (see below), or for anyone who would prefer, I will gladly pick up grillables from my local grocer for reimbursement. Please feel free to arrive anytime after noon. You can arrive before then and wander around, but I'll probably ignore you ;-}. I plan on lighting the grill at around 2pm, and again at around 6ish for those who can't come until later (or who are hungry again). We have about an acre of lawn in front of the house to play in. There are a few big trees for shade, and you are welcome to wander around the property. The pond is at the opposite side of the property. Dogs are welcome, but are not allowed in the barn. An 8'x8' kennel and a medium weight, 50' dog run are available to use as well (for the _dogs_). I'll have a couple of tables and I think I can get about 12-15 patio chairs. Most of the land is taken up by barn and paddocks. For those who are interested, feel free to check out the barn - it's home to about 35 horses, has an indoor ring, grooming area, and all that fun stuff. Most of the horses are privately owned, and they are all used for equestrian sports. So please don't tease, feed or pet them without the permission of their owner or an employee of the barn. Boilerplate: Perl Mongers BBQ social - Sunday, October 1st, 2000. 12 noon - till' Hosted by Sean & Kathryn Quinlan at 145 Summer St. Medway, MA 02053 508-533-0582 or 508-783-0681 Outrageously long mapquest link: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn/twn-map_results&zoom_level =7&uid=ucdar0oaq1g4n5se:r55yyx5y7&SNVData=3mad3-5.fy%28wangrb_%29z25qa1%3bah 7-%3durs%2b%15%10HTDC%2bEJ%28HJQN%13%18%3aF%13%3d6a2da_l9r8_F%15%2851uzgl%3a _a9wrxh%3aa%3bwh%7c2 We are located on Rt. 126, about halfway between Rte. 16 and Rte. 109. There is a sign for Rising Star Equestrian Center by the driveway. The house is just up the driveway on the left (white). Please park in the main parking lot just past the house. Directions: You can get to our house by I495, Rte. 16 or Rte. 109 (or Rte. 126 if you happen to live a little closer). Which is faster will depend on where you are coming from. Both Rte. 16 and Rte. 109 cross I95/Rte. 128, so if you are close to I95, look at a map and see which of those are closer to you. From downtown Boston, take the pike out. You can either take it all the way to 495 (head south on 495) or take the Rte. 30/Weston(?) exit and cut over to Rte. 16 in Wellesley(sp?). 495 is the least complicated path, but takes a little longer. It usually takes me about 40-45m to get home from BU when traffic is light. The I90 to I495 path take 10-15 minutes longer. If your are not sure which path is best for you, please feel free to email me for suggestions. Let me know where you will be coming from, and what your preference is for difficulty/speed ratio. >From 495 - take exit 19 (Milford/Medway Rte. 109 exit). Head north on Rte. 109 (left if heading South on 495). A couple miles up you come to the intersection of 109 and 126 - it's your first traffic light, and there is a large fire station. Take a left onto Rte. 126 (Summer St.). Our house is a little over a mile down on the left. Look for a large white house set a ways back from the road with a stone wall along the road. >From 109 South - After passing through 'downtown' Medway, you will come to a set of lights, with a church on your right. Be careful here, as Rte. 109 actually forks of to the right - follow the signs. About a half mile further you come to the intersection of Rte. 109 and Rte. 126. There is a traffic light, and a large fire station. Take a right onto Rte. 126 (Summer St.). Our house is a little over a mile down on the left. Look for a large white house set a ways back from the road with a stone wall along the road. >From Rte. 16 - Rte. 16 and Rte. 126 merge in Holliston by a Bertucci's. You will stay on 16/126 almost all the way through Hollison. At the top of a rise, Rte. 126 will turn left and 16 will continue forward. Take a left and stay on Rte. 126, which is Summer St. after the turn. We are about a mile and a half down on the right. A couple hundred yards after entering Medway, watch for a guardrail on the right side, with paddocks on the other side of the trees. Our driveway is next. Commuter rail - The last stop on the Franklin line is Forge Park. This station is just off I495, and about 12m from our house. See http://www.mbta.com/schedmaps/commuter-rail/schedules/franklin/frankstsu.cfm for the schedule. If anyone takes the commuter line out, please call 508-783-0681 when you are sure which train you will be on, and a pickup will be arranged. I hope to see you Sunday! Sean P. Quinlan mailto:sean@quinlan.org 508-533-0582 ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Uri Guttman --------- uri@sysarch.com ---------- http://www.sysarch.com SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting The Perl Books Page ----------- http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-bin/perl_books The Best Search Engine on the Net ---------- http://www.northernlight.com **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe groups" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com Tue Sep 26 13:05:41 2000 From: Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com (Dao, Thomas H) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] [Fwd: Boston.pm BBQ social] Message-ID: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CB0F@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Is there a meeting still on for tomorrow?? Time and Place? BTW, did anybody attend the IT social sponsored by digitalrochester.com two weeks ago? Any comments??? -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From jpt at cif.rochester.edu Tue Sep 26 15:43:01 2000 From: jpt at cif.rochester.edu (Jonathan P Tomer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] meeting tomorrow Message-ID: <200009262043.QAA25755@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> The 7th floor conference room in the UR Computer Studies Building IS reserved for a meeting tomorrow at 8p. I can repost directions if anybody wants. (in case anyone was interested in coming by bus, RTS lines 18, 19, 70, and 72 all come to the University; i can give detailed directions on how to get from the bus stop to CSB if anyone asks.) -- p. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Tue Sep 26 16:11:57 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] [Fwd: Boston.pm BBQ social] References: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CB0F@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <39D1111D.3FC29A25@directedge.com> "Dao, Thomas H" wrote: > > Is there a meeting still on for tomorrow?? > Time and Place? > > BTW, did anybody attend the IT social sponsored by digitalrochester.com > two weeks ago? Any comments??? Yes, let's get together tomorrow. Looks like Jonathan has a room for us too :). I went to the digital rochester thing, we can talk about it there. -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 27 14:49:38 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] REPOST: Meeting directions Message-ID: <39D24F52.E97A8F9@directedge.com> Here's a repost of directions to the meeting place tonight. Thanks Jonathan. -------- Original Message -------- From: Jonathan P Tomer Subject: Re: [rochester-pm-list] Meeting, tonight? To: rochester-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > how about 8:00 pm? what room? The room is 703 in the Computer Studies Building. Directions by car: Enter the UR campus from the main (Elmwood Ave) entrance, and turn right at the first stop sign. Take a right into the parking lot (Trustee Rd. Lot). The gate should be open since it's after 5pm. Park in the lot and cross Trustee Road to get to the Computer Studies Building; it's the big one with blue windows and a revolving door directly in front of the crosswalk. Go in and turn right; take the elevators up to the seventh floor. The room I have reserved is 703 (turn left off the elevators and follow the halls for a bit). Hope to see someone there... if there doesn't happen to be anyone around who knows what to do at a PM meeting (i sure don't :p) then we can all go home again or something. -- j. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 27 15:12:16 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] meeting tomorrow References: <200009262043.QAA25755@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> Message-ID: <39D254A0.ED8261E3@directedge.com> Jonathan P Tomer wrote: > > The 7th floor conference room in the UR Computer Studies Building IS > reserved for a meeting tomorrow at 8p. I can repost directions if > anybody wants. (in case anyone was interested in coming by bus, RTS > lines 18, 19, 70, and 72 all come to the University; i can give detailed > directions on how to get from the bus stop to CSB if anyone asks.) > > -- p. Do you happen to have directions on how to get to the UofR area? Some of us (including myself :) may have never been there. Maybe a mapblast link or something? -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From jpt at cif.rochester.edu Wed Sep 27 17:59:22 2000 From: jpt at cif.rochester.edu (Jonathan P Tomer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:21 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:12:16 EDT." <39D254A0.ED8261E3@directedge.com> Message-ID: <200009272259.SAA19458@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> > Jonathan P Tomer wrote: > > > > The 7th floor conference room in the UR Computer Studies Building IS > > reserved for a meeting tomorrow at 8p. I can repost directions if > > anybody wants. (in case anyone was interested in coming by bus, RTS > > lines 18, 19, 70, and 72 all come to the University; i can give detailed > > directions on how to get from the bus stop to CSB if anyone asks.) > > > > -- p. > > Do you happen to have directions on how to get to the UofR area? Some of us > (including myself :) may have never been there. Maybe a mapblast link or > something? oops, forgot to mention that part. University of Rochester main entrance is on Elmwood Ave just east of the River. If you're approaching from the west, take a left one light after Plymouth Ave.; from the east, it's a right just beyond the big University of Rochester bridge; after that directions are as in my previous post. http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/map.mb?CMD=GEO&CT=&IC=&LV=&GMI=&GAD1=&GAD2=&GAD3=&GAD4=&AD2=elmwood+%26+wilson&noPrefs=&req_action=crmap&skip=&serch=&PHONE=&noBRP=&remLoc=&AD4=USA&AD2_street=elmwood+%26+wilson&AD3=Rochester%2C+NY&apmenu=&apcode=&selCategory=&x=65&y=5 is a map of the immediate area. Hope that helps, if not i'll be around my mail until 8 so reply fast. -- p. "But the sheep seem to shower off this office tower, nine-point-eight straight down." -- The Barenaked Ladies, "When I Fall" PGP 5.0 key (0xE024447449) at http://cif.rochester.edu/~jpt/pubkey.txt -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 27 23:57:32 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] [Fwd: O'Reilly Seeks Peer to Peer Survey Participants] Message-ID: <39D2CFBC.C6758A@directedge.com> More from ORA, this time a survey. Brian -------- Original Message -------- Hello, O'Reilly invites you and your group members to participate in a survey that will help O'Reilly understand the technical potential of the peer to peer wave in technology. The survey information will assist in developing the structure of an upcoming O'Reilly Conference: Peer to Peer (P2P). Take the survey, and you will be entered to win 10 books of your choice. For those of you who aren't familiar with peer to peer, take a look at this article by Andy Oram: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2000/09/22/p2psummit.html to participate in the survey go to: http://www.oreilly.com/news/p2p_survey.html The Peer to Peer Conference will take place at the St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco, February 14 to 16. Early next year we are also publishing "Peer-to-Peer: The Disruptive Potential of Collaborative Networking". We'd be grateful if you'd fill in the survey and let others know about its existence. We feel that an important new technological trend is building but we don't have a handle on its shape or who's interested in it. As you know, we at O'Reilly were at the forefront of the commercialization of the Internet, the early development of the Web, and have been a major force behind the growth of Open Source. Tim O'Reilly, our founder and CEO, strongly believes that Peer-to-Peer constitutes another such groundbreaking force for change. The information in the survey is strictly for our internal analysis. Thanks for your support. :) Denise -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Wed Sep 27 23:56:14 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] [Fwd: Leverage OpenGL's power to build mesmerizing black holes] Message-ID: <39D2CF6E.FEF1D926@directedge.com> Here are some interesting tech articles from O'Reilly. Looks like they have a decent news, etc.. -- Brian Mathis -------- Original Message -------- Sharing articles I think your group might find interesting: If physics or astronomy have ever fascinated you, then I think you'll be interested in an article just published on the O'Reilly Network. Author Chris Halsall describes how you can simulate building a black hole, complete with a mesmerizing visual display. Chris uses OpenGL, an API developed by Silicon Graphics (SGI) in order to make 3D application developers' lives easier. Chris includes the program and makefile with the article, and there are links to other articles about OpenGL. Chris is the President of Open Source Solutions Inc. and a specialist at automating information gathering and presentation systems. Building a Black Hole with OpenGL http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2000/09/15/blackhole.html?page=1 Accompanying Articles: Creating Real Time 3D Graphics with OpenGL http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/06/23/magazine/opengl_intro.html OpenGL Rendering and Drawing http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/06/23/magazine/opengl_render.html Preparing to Build an OpenGL Application http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/06/23/magazine/opengl_build.html Other Links O'Reilly Network: http://www.oreillynet.com O'Reilly Network Linux affiliate: http://oreilly.linux.com Open Source Solutions Inc.: http://www.os-s.com/ :) Denise -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Fri Sep 29 03:35:39 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] New web site Message-ID: <39D4545B.B3CEAC65@directedge.com> Hey everyone. I've been working on a new web site for the past few days. Since the old one was pretty out of date, I put up the new one tonight. Take a look at it, let me know what you think. Any improvements and suggestions will be added (I still have to add a few things we talked about at the meeting this week). http://rochester.pm.org -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From HEDAAN at simon.rochester.edu Fri Sep 29 09:03:12 2000 From: HEDAAN at simon.rochester.edu (HEDA, ANURAG) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] New web site Message-ID: <60DB751B107FD411ABC000D0B789B9CE010FDE05@mail2.ssb.rochester.edu> the site looks great. fast too. Brian, can you keep the job listings in an XML document and then publish that somewhere (http://rochester.pm.org/jobs/jobs.xml)? i can grab it and traverse it easily them and transform it to whatever i may need. if you need help with a simple schema let me know. (btw, i m happy that the meetings are on the UR campus. i m a new student at The Simon School.) /anu -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mathis [mailto:bmathis@directedge.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:36 AM To: Rochester Perl Mongers Subject: [roch-pm] New web site Hey everyone. I've been working on a new web site for the past few days. Since the old one was pretty out of date, I put up the new one tonight. Take a look at it, let me know what you think. Any improvements and suggestions will be added (I still have to add a few things we talked about at the meeting this week). http://rochester.pm.org -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com Fri Sep 29 09:51:44 2000 From: Thomas.Dao at usa.xerox.com (Dao, Thomas H) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] New web site Message-ID: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CB2F@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Was interested in how the perl website was created and using what tools. Also, I can be of some assistance if needed. Tom -----Original Message----- From: HEDA, ANURAG [mailto:HEDAAN@simon.rochester.edu] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:03 AM To: 'rochester-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: [roch-pm] New web site the site looks great. fast too. Brian, can you keep the job listings in an XML document and then publish that somewhere (http://rochester.pm.org/jobs/jobs.xml)? i can grab it and traverse it easily them and transform it to whatever i may need. if you need help with a simple schema let me know. (btw, i m happy that the meetings are on the UR campus. i m a new student at The Simon School.) /anu -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mathis [mailto:bmathis@directedge.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:36 AM To: Rochester Perl Mongers Subject: [roch-pm] New web site Hey everyone. I've been working on a new web site for the past few days. Since the old one was pretty out of date, I put up the new one tonight. Take a look at it, let me know what you think. Any improvements and suggestions will be added (I still have to add a few things we talked about at the meeting this week). http://rochester.pm.org -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Fri Sep 29 13:48:37 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] New web site References: <60DB751B107FD411ABC000D0B789B9CE010FDE05@mail2.ssb.rochester.edu> Message-ID: <39D4E405.E31CF50A@directedge.com> "HEDA, ANURAG" wrote: > the site looks great. > fast too. > > Brian, > can you keep the job listings in an XML document and then publish > that somewhere (http://rochester.pm.org/jobs/jobs.xml)? i can grab it and > traverse it easily them and transform it to whatever i may need. > if you need help with a simple schema let me know. > > (btw, i m happy that the meetings are on the UR campus. i m a new student at > The Simon School.) > > /anu That's a good idea. I had planned on just sending the job postings directly to the mailing list. Sort of an incentive to get people in the list for not only job stuff, but also announcements and discussion. What do you think about that? -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From bmathis at directedge.com Fri Sep 29 13:58:26 2000 From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] New web site References: <7C9F0BB3FDC5D3119C5900805FC7361591CB2F@usa0207ms1.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <39D4E652.C8B46287@directedge.com> "Dao, Thomas H" wrote: > > Was interested in how the perl website was created and using what tools. > Also, I can be of some assistance if needed. > > Tom I did the initial layout in Photoshop, then cut up everything in ImageReady. After that, I took it to 'vi' and started manually ripping things apart and putting them back together :). Once I got the initial layout done, it was just matter of cloning each page and adding content. More help would be great. Now the big fun is just making sure everything stays current. There's not much on there that changes often (by design), so it shouldn't be that bad. I got rid of the calendar because it was a big chore updating it. I tried to avoid stuff like that for this version. -- Brian Mathis Direct Edge http://www.directedge.com -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org From whyte at eznet.net Fri Sep 29 16:09:01 2000 From: whyte at eznet.net (The Whytes) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:19:22 2004 Subject: [roch-pm] New web site References: <39D4545B.B3CEAC65@directedge.com> Message-ID: <39D504ED.FDDDC217@eznet.net> Brian, I really like the site. Its easy on the eyes and says it all. Tony Brian Mathis wrote: > Hey everyone. > > I've been working on a new web site for the past few days. Since the old one > was pretty out of date, I put up the new one tonight. Take a look at it, let me > know what you think. > > Any improvements and suggestions will be added (I still have to add a few things > we talked about at the meeting this week). > > http://rochester.pm.org > > -- > Brian Mathis > Direct Edge > http://www.directedge.com > -- > For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit > http://rochester.pm.org -- For information on unsubscribing from this list, please visit http://rochester.pm.org