[rochester-pm-list] [Fwd: www.perl.com: Report from the Perl Conference]
Brian Mathis
bmathis at directedge.com
Thu Aug 24 22:32:15 CDT 2000
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> PERL 6 NEWS
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> The Perl 6 discussion process seems to be going pretty well. The
> original 'bootstrap' list has done its job, and there are now about
> twenty seperate mailing lists for discussing what Perl 6 should be
> like. One hundred and thirty-six formal proposals have been advanced
> so far, and more are arriving every day. The idea is that Larry is
> going to look over the proposals and see what people want and then
> design the new language.
>
> There are a few reasons to have formal proposals, which are called
> 'RFC's, in the style of Internet RFCs. One reason to have formal RFCs
> is to make it easier to track the subsequent discussion. In the past,
> the p5p list would come to a halt for a week because everyone would be
> discussing some controversial technical topic. Then a few months
> later, the same topic would come up and p5p would come to a halt for
> another week. The hope is that that won't happen any more, because
> when the same topic comes up for the second time, people will just say
> "Oh, that is RFC 2387 and we discussed it in October of 2003 and
> decided it was a bad idea; here is a pointer to the archive of the
> relevant messages." Having numbered RFCs enables this.
>
> Another reason for having formal proposals it to encourage people to
> think through their ideas before spewing them into the mailing lists.
> This seems to be working pretty well. There have been some rather
> half-baked proposals, but the proposals that have been advanced
> without RFC documents have been quarter-baked. The working group
> chairpeople are supposed to be keeping a lid on quarter-baked
> discussion but they haven't all been doing as good a job as they
> might.
>
> The working group chairs are also supposed to be producing weekly
> reports of the activities of their groups. Some of those have
> started to crop up.
>
> In early September www.perl.com will have an overview of all this
> activity, including a description of each working group and mailing
> list, links to the summaries so far, and whatever other observations
> I can come up with.
>
> In the meantime, the RFCs are available at: http://dev.perl.org/rfc/
>
> Most of the mailing lists are archived at: http://www.mailing-lists.com/
>
> Do a search for 'perl6' to find the Perl 6 lists.
>
> The perl6-announce mailing list may be of interest to casual
> observers. It carries all new RFCs, and announcements of new mailing
> lists. To subscribe, send mail to perl6-announce-subscribe at perl.org.
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> WHAT'S NEW ON THE SITE
>
> I originally wanted to have lightning conference reports from TPC54,
> with ten or fifteen people each contributing a short report, but that
> fell through. Instead, Joe Kline was nice enough to write up a
> detailed report from his notes. Joe's conference report:
>
> http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/08/tpc4.html
>
> I also got a little surprise. As you know, Joe Johnston has been
> working on an interview of Ilya Zakharevich for some time. The
> interview is coming out even more interesting than we expected, since
> Ilya has a lot to say. But it is also much longer than we expected,
> and it isn't finished yet. Joe surprised me by producing, apparently
> from nowhere, an interview with Dr. Damian Conway. Dr. Conway is the
> author of the excellent book _Object Oriented Perl_ and the three-time
> winner of the annual Larry Wall award for Practical Utility, for
> modules such as Parse::RecDescent, which writes parser programs in
> Perl, and Coy, which turns all your error messages into haiku.
> Joe's interview with Dr. Conway is available at:
>
> http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/08/conway.html
>
> COMING UP
>
> The Ilya interview, at last. A guide to the Perl 6 mailing lists and
> RFCs. Walt Mankowski may divulge how Perl helped him win the office
> football pool.
>
> Thank you all. I will be in touch again in two weeks.
>
> Mark Dominus
> Managing Editor
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> Report from the Perl Conference
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>
> Profiles: Damian Conway Talks Shop
> http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/08/conway.html?wwwrrr_20000822.txt
> The author of Object-Oriented Perl talks about the Dark Art of
> programming, motivations for taking on projects, and the
> "deification" of technology.
>
>
> Article: Report from the Perl Conference
> http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/08/tpc4.html?wwwrrr_20000822.txt
> One conference-goer shares with us his thoughts, experiences and
> impressions of YAPC 2000.
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