From bmathis at directedge.com  Mon Jan 18 20:47:22 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] hello
Message-ID: <36A3F23A.A65A2245@directedge.com>

welcome to the mailing list

From bmathis at directedge.com  Tue Jan 19 18:27:24 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] test message
Message-ID: <36A522EC.C6AE1965@directedge.com>

hello

From bmathis at directedge.com  Tue Jan 19 18:39:19 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] test
Message-ID: <36A525B7.223C45B5@directedge.com>

test

From bmathis at directedge.com  Tue Jan 19 18:41:44 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] still testing
Message-ID: <36A52648.66E68D99@directedge.com>

testiiln

From bmathis at directedge.com  Tue Jan 19 18:47:02 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] test
Message-ID: <36A52786.B0AF8B3E@directedge.com>

yet another test

From bmathis at directedge.com  Tue Jan 19 18:47:32 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] test
References: <36A52786.B0AF8B3E@directedge.com>
Message-ID: <36A527A4.8C38E2BF@directedge.com>

testing follow up messages

Brian Mathis wrote:
> 
> yet another test

From bmathis at directedge.com  Tue Jan 19 23:59:05 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Welcome!
Message-ID: <36A570A9.C05F9232@directedge.com>

As you have probably figured out by the last message, I have finally
gotten a mailing list set up.  I'd like to think of this as a first step
to creating a cool users group.

Why don't we start out with introductions?

I'm Brian Mathis.  I'm currently working at Kodak doing all around
Intranet and System administration, etc..  I also do miscellaneous Perl
and web work on the side.

I've been working with Perl for over 5 years now, and it's my language
of choice.  I've tried my hand at writing a few modules and all sorts of
other stuff for / in perl, mostly system utilities and CGI scripts...

So what about the rest of you?  We need to start somewhere.  Remember,
this is as much a social group as it is a resource for Perl.

Can't wait to hear from you,
Brian

-- 
$_=",.,,,.,,.,,.,,,,..,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,..,..,,.,,
  ,,,,";s/\s//gs;tr/,./05/;@a=split(//);$_=<DATA>;tr/~`'"^/0-4/;map{$o
  .=$a[$i]+$_;$i++}split(//);@a=$o=~m!...!g;map{print chr}@a; __DATA__
~'^``'``~```~"'~^'``~```````~^`~```^~"'``'`~```^`~"~"'`~^~^'~^^`~'`~```^

From tjwitte at shell.servtech.com  Wed Jan 20 06:33:56 1999
From: tjwitte at shell.servtech.com (Tony Witte)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Glad to see Rochester PM
In-Reply-To: <36A570A9.C05F9232@directedge.com>
Message-ID: <199901201234.MAA07635@shell.servtech.com>

I've been perl-ing only for a short while.  Actually I got into it 
gradually.  Two years ago I modified a form-to-email script for our web 
site and had no idea what I was doing, but managed to get it to work.  
Then last spring I was determined to get a search engine up on our web 
site, and had to learn some perl.  That was followed by installing a 
message board (Selena Sol/extropia.com script) with a couple of useful 
modifications. Last summer a local mortician asked if we could post 
obituaries on our community web site.  I didn't want to have to code 
those obits myself, so I wrote a cgi script so the morticians' can load 
the obits themselves. Now I really had the perl bug.  So when our library 
director asked me to write a cgi so she can post a list of new books, I 
was thrilled.

I am a family physician and computerphile in Dansville, a village of 
5000.  I am co-webmaster for our community web site
Dansville Community Home Page
http://dansville.lib.ny.us
and I dare say it is a great resource for the community.

I also volunteer at our local library and school district, helping with 
various computer issues.

Some of my scripts are posted on my URL.  
http://www.servtech.com/~tjwitte/tony.html
Feel free to use them. I'm particularly fond of the mailing list script 
and the book list.

So far in learning Perl I used Quigley's "Perl by Example" but was 
particulary helped by O'Reilly's "Learning Perl," and "Quick Reference 
Guide."  And the site http://www.cgi101.com/ was very helpful as well.

Tony Witte
Dansville, NY

From webmaster at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jan 20 07:54:31 1999
From: webmaster at rochester.rr.com (Justin C. Sherrill)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Howdy
In-Reply-To: <199901201234.MAA07635@shell.servtech.com>
Message-ID: <000f01be447c$676d4380$4e01a8c0@burp.rochester.rr.com>

I'm the Rochester Road Runner webmaster, and an active Perl user.  I'm
currently removing a lot of VBScript and ActiveX material from our site,
coded by someone else, and replacing it with Perl scripts.
(http://www.rochester.rr.com)

Here's a question for other Perl users around here.  RG&E has a CPAN archive
there, which is nice, but it's very slow, at least for me.  Have other
people had this problem?  I've been thinking about becoming a CPAN mirror
(among other things) if it would be helpful.

I'm currently reading the Perl Cookbook - it's very handy.

Justin C. Sherrill
Rochester Road Runner webmaster
webmaster@rochester.rr.com
"Think slow, type fats."


From ats2410 at rit.edu  Wed Jan 20 12:20:26 1999
From: ats2410 at rit.edu (Drew Szemiot)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Drew here
Message-ID: <36A61E6A.7CE6524A@rit.edu>

Hello all,

My name is Drew, and I'm currently a 4th year student at RIT finishing
up a Bachelor's Degree in Information Technology concentrating my
studies in web design/development and databases. Unfortunately there
have been no classes offered here at RIT for PERL, so I have been
learning it on my own. I've only been toying with it for the past few
months so I guess I can be considered the newbie of the group. :)

However, I will be using PERL extensively soon for creating online forms
that retrieve from databases. Though I'm not an avid fan of programming,
I have several years of C++ and VB experience, but PERL captivated  me
as easier (syntax-wise) and much more fun to learn (structure-wise) than
say, C++. Therefore I'm anxious to learn more. Nice to know that a few
share my interests.

-Drew


From rmd0549 at ritvax.isc.rit.edu  Wed Jan 20 15:25:57 1999
From: rmd0549 at ritvax.isc.rit.edu (rmd)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Bob here too!
Message-ID: <001401be44bb$782de780$996a1581@d106-h025.rit.edu>

Hi,

I am a first year student in IT, at RIT. I started learning PERL around the
time I arrived here in September. As of now, I consider myself fairly well
versed in PERL. I have been programming for several years and am experienced
in C/C++, the Windows 95/98/NT API, MFC, Visual Basic, HTML, JavaScript,
VBScript etc... and of course, my favorite, GWBasic. (joke ;-) PERL is a
great language to learn since the majority of CGIs are written in them. I
first started fooling around with C based CGIs and found them not nearly as
'flowing' as those written in PERL. While ASP technology is extremely useful
as well, being an IT professional means I have to be fluent in both. I think
this mailing list is a great idea and look forward to more news!

Robert Downey



From ScottB at asymetrix.com  Wed Jan 20 15:59:39 1999
From: ScottB at asymetrix.com (Scott Barton)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Hello
Message-ID: <499505BEB14CD21183A600A0C9DD41BB14A358@email-ny1.meliora.com>

Thought I'd jump on the band wagon and introduce myself.  I'm a 5th year
Info Tech student at RIT.  I started  learning PERL last year while I was on
co-op with  Cabletron.  I was working on their intranet and most of their
scripts were in PERL.  I found PERL to be very easy to learn and very
powerful to use.  I also have programming experience with VB, C++, Java,
HTML, JavaScript, VBScript, and ASP.  I am currently working part time doing
VB and ASP stuff on a product that accesses SQL and Oracle Databases, but I
want to continue to hone my PERL skills.  

-Scott

Scott Barton
Asymetrix Learning Systems, Inc.
(716) 461-1900 ext. 1033
mailto:ScottB@Asymetrix.com
http://www.asymetrix.com

From fat_hot at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 20 21:46:26 1999
From: fat_hot at yahoo.com (james wilson)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Welcome!
Message-ID: <19990121034626.23963.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com>


Brian Mathis <bmathis@directedge.com> wrote:
>
> As you have probably figured out by the last message, I have finally
> gotten a mailing list set up.  I'd like to think of this as a first
step
> to creating a cool users group.
> 
> Why don't we start out with introductions?

hey y'all. I hate to talk about myself but since you've twisted my arm
I'll do it this once. I work for West Group (the entity which
swallowed LCP) which has been described as the Microsoft of legal
publishing. I'm mainly doing SGML processing, and have managed to
spread the love of Perl throughout my department. (People used to use
C++ for all their text processing - yee.) 

Now that it's fully entrenched I'm starting to evangelize for Python
since I think it ends up being more maintainable when you have an
endless procession of no-talents like myself hacking and rehacking the
same pieces of code. Nevertheless Perl retains my deep affection for
being so weird and twisty.

James

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


From John.Zimmerman at usa.xerox.com  Wed Jan 20 22:08:50 1999
From: John.Zimmerman at usa.xerox.com (Zimmerman, John)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Welcome!
Message-ID: <8005AF72AA57D111B4EC00805FEDAE4A013F6812@USA0838MS1>

I'm John Zimmerman. I work for EDS, currently supporting Xerox. I do a wide
variety of things with Infrastructure systems. I've been using Perl for
about 4 years, mainly for systems utils, text processing and systems
management reporting. I've found Perl to be my preferred language do to ease
of moving scripts between Win32 and Unix platforms.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Mathis [mailto:bmathis@directedge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 12:59 AM
To: rochester-pm-list@hfb.pm.org
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Welcome!


As you have probably figured out by the last message, I have finally
gotten a mailing list set up.  I'd like to think of this as a first step
to creating a cool users group.

Why don't we start out with introductions?

I'm Brian Mathis.  I'm currently working at Kodak doing all around
Intranet and System administration, etc..  I also do miscellaneous Perl
and web work on the side.

I've been working with Perl for over 5 years now, and it's my language
of choice.  I've tried my hand at writing a few modules and all sorts of
other stuff for / in perl, mostly system utilities and CGI scripts...

So what about the rest of you?  We need to start somewhere.  Remember,
this is as much a social group as it is a resource for Perl.

Can't wait to hear from you,
Brian

-- 
$_=",.,,,.,,.,,.,,,,..,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,..,..,,.,,
  ,,,,";s/\s//gs;tr/,./05/;@a=split(//);$_=<DATA>;tr/~`'"^/0-4/;map{$o
  .=$a[$i]+$_;$i++}split(//);@a=$o=~m!...!g;map{print chr}@a; __DATA__
~'^``'``~```~"'~^'``~```````~^`~```^~"'``'`~```^`~"~"'`~^~^'~^^`~'`~```^

From dxcits at osfmail.isc.rit.edu  Thu Jan 21 08:08:21 1999
From: dxcits at osfmail.isc.rit.edu (Dower Chin)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Hello
Message-ID: <0F5X005F50LIPR@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>

Hello All,

I figured since we are all doing introductions, My name is Dower Chin, I am
the webmaster at the Rochester Institute of Technology. I first learned Perl
4 years ago on my first job, doing cgi's for the USNews Online website.
Since then I have programmed in many other languages, including Server Side
Javascript, C++, and ASP. Now that I am at RIT, I am making use of Perl to
add functionality to RIT's sites. I am hoping to learn more from the Perl
programmers on this list, and maybe I can be of assistance too.

Dower Chin

oOo---------------------------oOo
Webmaster
Rochester Institute of Technology
dxcits@rit.edu
http://www.rit.edu/webmaster
(716) 475-7991
ICQ: 19711346
oOo---------------------------oOo

 

From bmathis at directedge.com  Sat Jan 23 13:01:42 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Ok, now what?
Message-ID: <36AA1C96.CDF67B99@directedge.com>

Ok, it's nice to see that people are interested and excited about
rochester.pm.  Now, the next question is: What do you want to get out of
rochester.pm?

Here are some of my ideas:
    Help each other out with problems or questions we might run into
    Set up meetings where we could go over particular topics
    Try to get a social thing going
    Take a look at/ showcase different projects we have worked on to
demonstrate new techniques
    Set up a web page for rochester.pm (http://rochester.pm.org)
    Try to get some perl "celebrities" to hang out, give talks, etc..
    Use rochester.pm as a local resource for additional programming
talent on various projects

Well, that's all i can think of right now.  Anyone else have any ideas? 
Not like some of mine?  Let me know..  Let's get a discusion going..

Brian

From webmaster at rochester.rr.com  Sat Jan 23 18:12:27 1999
From: webmaster at rochester.rr.com (Justin C. Sherrill)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Ok, now what?
Message-ID: <001201be472e$3c20c1c0$77015d18@justin-laptop>

>Well, that's all i can think of right now.  Anyone else have any ideas?
>Not like some of mine?  Let me know..  Let's get a discusion going..


All these notions sound good to me.  The most helpful item to me would be to
see examples of problem solutions from other people - I'm sure a good number
of us hit the same troubles, repeatedly..

For instance:  Anyone authenticated NT users with perl scripts yet?  I
haven't found an obvious solution yet.

Justin


From tjwitte at shell.servtech.com  Wed Jan 27 05:46:22 1999
From: tjwitte at shell.servtech.com (Tony Witte)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Ok, now what?
In-Reply-To: <36AA1C96.CDF67B99@directedge.com>
Message-ID: <199901271146.LAA11290@shell.servtech.com>

I'm not at all sure what I'm looking for in rochester.pm.  I feel like 
both the "old man" (41) and the newbie, as I may be the chronologically 
oldest, but the newest to computing and programming. Sounds like most 
pm's are IT pros or college/graduate level computer scientists.  I'm a 
hobbiest, or maybe (I flatter myself) a hacker.  But I like this stuff, 
and down here in Dansville haven't found others similarly interested in 
such things.

I'm looking forward to picking your collective brains when I encounter a 
stumbling block.  I'm intersted in hearing about your perl creations and 
new ideas.

I've done (very little) CGI consulting, and would be interested in more 
such work.  How to get more business?

Tony Witte
http://www.servtech.com/~tjwitte/tony.html

From havoc at boldo.com  Thu Jan 28 13:12:53 1999
From: havoc at boldo.com (Patrick Ludwig)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Welcome!
In-Reply-To: <36A570A9.C05F9232@directedge.com>
Message-ID: <199901290251.VAA22560@mail1.eznet.net>

> Why don't we start out with introductions?

Greetings!

I'm Pat Ludwig.  I work for Xerox as a programmer in an internet 
division. I use Perl almost exclusively to tie together everything 
including databases, web sites, mail, office apps, etc.

Without Perl I don't know where I'd be today! Discovering Perl 
definitely revitalized my career.

I look forward to meeting everyone.

From dts7209 at rit.edu  Fri Jan 29 13:24:50 1999
From: dts7209 at rit.edu (Dave)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Greetings & Question!
Message-ID: <36B20B02.960C2B3C@rit.edu>

Greetings!
    My name is David Simcik and I'm presently a fourth-year Information
Technology major at RIT. Perl is rather new to me. I've just recently
begun to make forays into learning this language after studying several
years of C++, Visual Basic (cringe...), and Java.
    Here's my question. I need some great websites that not only teach
Perl, but also provide archives to modules and scripts. Any and all help
is greatly appreciated!

Much thanks.
David Simcik


--
     David T. Simcik
                     The Neo Maxo Zoom Dweebie
                        And damn proud of it!
                       ----------------------
                 Web: http://www.rit.edu/~dts7209/
                      Email: dts7209@rit.edu
                      Home Phone: 716.321.0451
        Work Phone: 716.475.4967



From rmd0549 at ritvax.isc.rit.edu  Fri Jan 29 14:16:40 1999
From: rmd0549 at ritvax.isc.rit.edu (rmd)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Greetings & Question!
Message-ID: <000e01be4bc4$48140f60$996a1581@d106-h025.rit.edu>

For those of you looking for good PERL web sites:

www.webmonkey.com

It has some nice easy beginner stuff as well as some cool advanced progs.

- Bob


From tjwitte at servtech.com  Fri Jan 29 17:48:32 1999
From: tjwitte at servtech.com (Tony Witte)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Greetings & Question!
In-Reply-To: <000e01be4bc4$48140f60$996a1581@d106-h025.rit.edu>
Message-ID: <199901292349.XAA26214@shell.servtech.com>

I'd also suggest www.extropia.com for some well-developed cgi scripts and 
some links to othr script archives.

And don't overlook CPAN ftp://mirror.xmission.com/CPAN/CPAN.html

Tony

From bmathis at directedge.com  Sun Jan 31 22:44:15 1999
From: bmathis at directedge.com (Brian Mathis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:19:44 2004
Subject: [rochester-pm-list] Greetings & Question!
References: <36B20B02.960C2B3C@rit.edu>
Message-ID: <36B5311F.50B8BCC6@directedge.com>

Dave wrote:
{..}
>     Here's my question. I need some great websites that not only teach
> Perl, but also provide archives to modules and scripts. Any and all help
> is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Much thanks.
> David Simcik

When looking for info on learning Perl, I'd recommend staying away from
"web stuff" until you get comfortable with the language.  It's true that
Perl is used very much on the web, but that's not the only place it's
used.  Trying to learn the nuances of both Perl and CGI at the same time
can be a daunting task.

A good book to learn with is "Learning Perl", from O'Reilly.  It's
really the only good tutorial type of thing that I know of.

Which brings up an interesting point, and possibly a project for
Rochester.pm.  Since there aren't many easily accessible tutorials out
there, what about getting together and writing a beginner's tutorial to
be included with the Perl distribution?

Brian