[Rio-pm] Ajuda com Threads - tempo de abertura

João André Simioni jasimioni em gmail.com
Domingo Julho 11 19:57:34 PDT 2010


Foi um typo - erro de digitação - o Net::Ping testa TCP e UDP. O ping
externo ICMP.

Mas assim, eu preciso resolver o problema com esse teste em Perl -
como eu disse, essa parte do código é só um pedaço de um sistema
maior. SNMP já é usado para várias outras coisas, mas dependem de
access lists em routers e eu não tenho como liberar.

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2010/7/11 Thiago Glauco Sanchez <thiagoglauco em ticursos.net>:
> O que eu quero dizer: você testou com o ping externo que é um teste icmp...
> depois fez outro teste icmp com o Net::Ping...
>
> Não seria mais interessante testar de outra forma?
>
>    $p = Net::Ping->new("tcp", 2);
>    $p->port_number(getservbyname("http", "tcp"));
>
> Mais umas coisas: Suas máquinas/equipamentos em teste estão via internet ou
> rede local?
> Já pensou em usar SNMP? Já tive um problema parecido e iria utilizar um
> processo para cada equipamento por desempenho e acabai optando por utilizar
> o Net:SNMP
> que permite utilizar uma função de callback em vez de utilizar um processo
> para cada equipamento. Eu mando uma requisição para todos os equipamentos e
> conforme eles respondem
> a função de call-back trata a requisição.
>
> Porém, não conheço o seu ambiente. Apenas acho que criar 4000 threads não
> seja a melhor solução.
>
>
> Em 11/07/2010 23:18, João André Simioni escreveu:
>>
>> É typo - já está certo no código. ICMP vai via comando externo, UDP e
>> TCP via Net::Ping.
>>
>> Com relação aos testes, é normal um momento de sobrecarga causar a não
>> resposta de testes - essas sobrecargas não devem duram mais que 5
>> segundos. Por isso o sleep - assim eu faço o mesmo teste 3x, com
>> intervalos de 3 segundos.
>>
>> []'s
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Blabos de Blebe<blabos em gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Não seria um typo?
>>>
>>> icmp ->  ping;
>>> tcp e udp ->  Net::Ping
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Thiago Glauco Sanchez
>>> <thiagoglauco em ticursos.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sim sim, entendi sua preocupação.
>>>> Mas em vez de:
>>>>
>>>> for (1..3) {
>>>>           my $ping = `/bin/ping -c 1 -w 1 $ip`;
>>>>
>>>> não seria melhor já mandar pingar as 3 vezes no comando ou apenas 1?
>>>> Você
>>>> está gerando 3 processos externos sem necessidade real.
>>>>
>>>> outra... o comando ping já não é icmp?
>>>> my $p = Net::Ping->new('icmp')???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 11/07/2010 17:04, João André Simioni escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eu quero fazer o ping de 3 formas - UDP Echo / TCP Echo e ICMP Echo.
>>>>> Alguns clientes tem filtros e assim eu evito falsos positivos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Net::Ping mesmo com root tem resultados incoerentes quando uso ICMP e
>>>>> Threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> []'s
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Thiago Glauco Sanchez
>>>>> <thiagoglauco em ticursos.net>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Endosso a solução do Lorn. Use o POE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E cara... pra que isso??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sub checkIp {
>>>>>>    my $ip = shift;
>>>>>>    my $pingOk = 0;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    eval {
>>>>>>        for (1..3) {
>>>>>>            my $ping = `/bin/ping -c 1 -w 1 $ip`;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            if (grep { / 0% packet loss/ } $ping) {
>>>>>>                $pingOk = 1;
>>>>>>                return 1;
>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            if ($pingOk == 0) {
>>>>>>                my $p = Net::Ping->new('icmp');
>>>>>>                $p->service_check(1);
>>>>>>                if ($p->ping($ip, 1)) {
>>>>>>                    $pingOk = 1;
>>>>>>                    return 1;
>>>>>>                }
>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            if ($pingOk == 0) {
>>>>>>                my $p = Net::Ping->new('udp');
>>>>>>                $p->service_check(1);
>>>>>>                if ($p->ping($ip, 1)) {
>>>>>>                    $pingOk = 1;
>>>>>>                    return 1;
>>>>>>                }
>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            sleep 3;
>>>>>>        }
>>>>>>    };
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Para pingar com ping externo, depois com o Net::Ping via icmp e depois
>>>>>> com
>>>>>> net::Ping udp? Ah... se não me engano, Net::Ping precisa de permissão
>>>>>> root
>>>>>> para retornar um icmp de forma correta...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 09/07/2010 17:48, João André Simioni escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Caros,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tenho um script para testar cerca de 4700 equipamentos, usando ping.
>>>>>>> Queria usar cerca 250 threads para isso, então o que eu fiz foi
>>>>>>> quebrar o grupo de 4300 em grupos 18 elementos e abri uma thread para
>>>>>>> cada.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Não há nenhum problema com o código, o que acontece é que o tempo de
>>>>>>> abertura das threads é muito alto. E quanto mais threads eu abro,
>>>>>>> maior o tempo para abertura das próximas. As primeiras abrem em 30ms,
>>>>>>> mas perto da thread 70 esse tempo já vai para quase 1 segundo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vocês sabem como otimizar esse tempo de abertura? Ou alguma outra
>>>>>>> solução?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Segue o output do script como exemplo:
>>>>>>> Para 4677 cpes, e 250 threads, tenho no final 246 grupos, com 19
>>>>>>> elementos
>>>>>>> cada
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.61858
>>>>>>> Created thread 1 (1) - took 0.030138 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.92080
>>>>>>> Created thread 2 (2) - took 0.042668 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.134968
>>>>>>> Created thread 3 (3) - took 0.064245 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.199430
>>>>>>> Created thread 4 (4) - took 0.082642 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.282278
>>>>>>> Created thread 5 (5) - took 0.128257 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.410769
>>>>>>> Created thread 6 (6) - took 0.136458 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.547383
>>>>>>> Created thread 7 (7) - took 0.208085 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.755594
>>>>>>> Created thread 8 (8) - took 0.173014 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:50 2010.928756
>>>>>>> Created thread 9 (9) - took 0.132713 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:51 2010.61608
>>>>>>> Created thread 10 (10) - took 0.127795 seconds to create
>>>>>>> Trying to create thread in Fri Jul  9 17:46:51 2010.189536
>>>>>>> Created thread 11 (11) - took 0.301836 seconds to create
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obrigado
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> João André Simioni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> use strict;
>>>>>>> use DBI;
>>>>>>> use Net::Ping;
>>>>>>> use Time::HiRes qw/usleep tv_interval gettimeofday/;
>>>>>>> use threads ('yield', 'stack_size' =>      32*4096, 'exit' =>
>>>>>>> 'threads_only', 'stringify');
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my $host = '192.168.160.179';
>>>>>>> my $sid  = 'HOMOLOG';
>>>>>>> my $user = 'mac_user';
>>>>>>> my $pass = 'mac_user';
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my $dbh = DBI->connect("dbi:Oracle:host=$host;sid=$sid", $user,
>>>>>>> $pass,
>>>>>>> { AutoCommit =>      1 });
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my $sth = $dbh->prepare('SELECT CPE_ID, CLIENTE_ID, CPE_DESC,
>>>>>>> CPE_IP_WAN, CPE_NODE, CPE_IF FROM MAC_CPE WHERE CPE_PING = ? AND
>>>>>>> CPE_ATIVO = ?');
>>>>>>> $sth->execute('1', 'A');
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my @cpes;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> while (my (@row) = $sth->fetchrow_array) {
>>>>>>>     push @cpes, [ @row ];
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $dbh->disconnect();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my $maxThreads = 250;
>>>>>>> my $total      = @cpes;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my $cpePerThread = int($total / $maxThreads);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my @toMonitor;
>>>>>>> my $i = 0;
>>>>>>> my $c = 0;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> foreach my $cpe (@cpes) {
>>>>>>>     push @{$toMonitor[$i]}, $cpe;
>>>>>>>     $c++;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     if ($c>      $cpePerThread) {
>>>>>>>         $i++;
>>>>>>>         $c = 0;
>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> print "Para $total cpes, e $maxThreads threads, tenho no final $i
>>>>>>> grupos, com ", scalar @{$toMonitor[0]}, " elementos cada\n";
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sub processResult {
>>>>>>>     my $r = shift;
>>>>>>>     if (ref $r ne 'ARRAY') {
>>>>>>>         print STDERR "Erro na thread\n";
>>>>>>>         return 0;
>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>     my ($result, $host, $ifs) = @$r;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sub testeClient {
>>>>>>>     my $threadNum = shift;
>>>>>>>     my $cpeGroup  = shift;
>>>>>>>     foreach my $cpe (@{$cpeGroup}) {
>>>>>>>         my ($cpeId, $clientId, $cpeDesc, $cpeIp, $cpeNode, $cpeIf) =
>>>>>>> @$cpe;
>>>>>>>         my $pingOk =&checkIp($cpeIp);
>>>>>>>         my $status = $pingOk ? 'RESPONDE' : 'MORTO';
>>>>>>>         # print join(", ", $threadNum, $cpeId, $clientId, $cpeDesc,
>>>>>>> $cpeIp, $cpeNode, $cpeIf, $status), "\n";
>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>     # print "Finishing thread $threadNum\n";
>>>>>>>     return([1, 0]);
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my $threadCount = 1;
>>>>>>> foreach my $cpeGroup (@toMonitor) {
>>>>>>>     print "Trying to create thread";
>>>>>>>     my $t0 = [gettimeofday];
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     print " in ", scalar localtime $t0->[0], ".", $t0->[1], "\n";
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     my $thr = threads->create({scalar =>      '1'}, 'testeClient',
>>>>>>> $threadCount, $cpeGroup);
>>>>>>>     my $elapsed = tv_interval ( $t0, [gettimeofday]);
>>>>>>>     print "Created thread $thr ($threadCount) - took $elapsed seconds
>>>>>>> to create\n";
>>>>>>>     $threadCount++;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     while (threads->list()>= $maxThreads) {
>>>>>>>         my @joinable = threads->list(threads::joinable);
>>>>>>>         for (@joinable) {
>>>>>>>             my $r = $_->join();
>>>>>>>             &processResult($r);
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>         usleep(10000);
>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>     my $elapsed = tv_interval ( $t0, [gettimeofday]);
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> while (threads->list()) {
>>>>>>>     my @joinable = threads->list(threads::joinable);
>>>>>>>     for (@joinable) {
>>>>>>>         my $r = $_->join();
>>>>>>>         &processResult($r);
>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>     usleep(10000);
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sub checkIp {
>>>>>>>     my $ip = shift;
>>>>>>>     my $pingOk = 0;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     eval {
>>>>>>>         for (1..3) {
>>>>>>>             my $ping = `/bin/ping -c 1 -w 1 $ip`;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             if (grep { / 0% packet loss/ } $ping) {
>>>>>>>                 $pingOk = 1;
>>>>>>>                 return 1;
>>>>>>>             }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             if ($pingOk == 0) {
>>>>>>>                 my $p = Net::Ping->new('icmp');
>>>>>>>                 $p->service_check(1);
>>>>>>>                 if ($p->ping($ip, 1)) {
>>>>>>>                     $pingOk = 1;
>>>>>>>                     return 1;
>>>>>>>                 }
>>>>>>>             }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             if ($pingOk == 0) {
>>>>>>>                 my $p = Net::Ping->new('udp');
>>>>>>>                 $p->service_check(1);
>>>>>>>                 if ($p->ping($ip, 1)) {
>>>>>>>                     $pingOk = 1;
>>>>>>>                     return 1;
>>>>>>>                 }
>>>>>>>             }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             sleep 3;
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>     };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     return $pingOk;
>>>>>>> }
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> stopped banging their heads against?
>>>>>> —Larry Wall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thiago Glauco Sanchez
>>>>>> Intrutor Perl e Redes
>>>>>> www.ticursos.net
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