[DMCA_Discuss] Where's MS in all this?

[tom poe]

Hi, Simon:  You're right.  The O'Reilly site is right on this, and here's the 
link:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/1305

I've been slugging along with this dissertation that lies at the heart of 
Simon's thinking on this stuff:
http://www1.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/top.htm
Thanks,
Tom
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On Friday 19 April 2002 16:17, Simon Drabble wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, tom poe wrote:
> > Hi:  Something tells me we still have MS standing in the wings on this
> > one. In the meantime, my efforts to get the W3.org folks to cough up a
> > readable list of what standards are royalty-free and what standards are
> > patent-encumbered is being met with obfuscation and gobbledy-gook.  And,
> > richard stallman is playing dumb, as well.  Tell me I'm wrong, but we
> > could easily be headed for some real rough water, if we let the W3.org
> > continue with this RAND nonsense, and let corporations take control of
> > the standards. Of course, the folks at W3.org will each have their little
> > "pensions" to take with them from the corporate sponsors, leaving the
> > world with crap for standards.
> >
> > When the future comes, and these corporate jerks hold the key to the
> > gate, the cost of accessing the Internet actively is raised.  Just like
> > what's happened to web radio.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
>
> Tom,
>
> I don't see existing standards going away any time soon, and unless W3 can
> find a way to render TCP useless (like, for instance, buying up all cisco
> routers and manufacturing replacements which speak, say, MS-CP) I don't
> know why we need rely on them at all.
>
> Seems they are a dinosaur, like RIAA et all, attempting to exert some last
> desperate grabs for control.
>
> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but really, what /do/ we need them for
> anymore? M$ and netscape have had /their/ own standards (or extensions) for
> years.
>
>
> Si.