[suse-schools-usa] Fwd: [alg] Was in Linuxjournal now /.ed

tom poe tompoe at renonevada.net
Thu Apr 18 14:28:10 CDT 2002


Hi, Andrew:  Try this on for size:
http://www.worldccr.org/kiosks.htm

Now, there's a systemic solution!  If you're into marketing, this is a 
multi-million dollar commission, waiting for the right connection, and all 
you have to do, is get to the right corporate decision-maker for any 
developing country project of choice.
Thanks,
Tom Poe
Reno, NV
http://www.studioforrecording.org/
http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/
http://renotahoe.pm.org/


On Thursday 18 April 2002 07:41, Andrew Choens wrote:
> Hmm,
> 	I disagree because of the type of problem being discussed.  This is not a
> localized issue.  This is a systemic issue that is becoming ingrained in
> the fundamental structure of our society.  We are truly at risk at becoming
> a very divided country.  When that happens, social instability is always
> the outcome.
> 	Because this is a systemic problem, some sort of a radical systemic action
> may be required.  Linux coders got tired of the system and revolutionized
> computing.  See the direction I'm going here?  If computers can be
> harnessed at the community level, they can become tools of social
> empowerment. Schools are very likely to continue trudging along in the
> direction they have been going in for years.  Heck, churches might be the
> ideal medium.  They have large numbers of people coming to them, and people
> trust them, and churches tend to have an interest in education (not all of
> course).  But, in poor areas, people tend to use the church down the
> street, not the other side of town, so the kids would have easy access to
> the cluster.
> 	As for destruction, I was actually referring to the system configuration.
> Permissions would need to be set up very carefully giving them access to
> some configuration options but nothing too powerful, or they might really
> confuse things, which would drive maintenance costs up.  But, I do think
> they should be able to change languages, styles, and all other superficial
> settings as they explore the workings of the system.
> 	Installation of new programs should even be allowed, but not
> removal....see what I'm getting at?
>
> Peace
> --andy choens
>
> On Thursday 18 April 2002 02:26 pm, tom poe wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 April 2002 06:38, Andrew Choens wrote:
> >  If we set the boxes up so
> >
> > > they could tinker with, but not destroy the computers set-up, we might
> > > be amazed what they could teach themselves.  There are lots of
> > > community based groups out there that might be interested in this sort
> > > of a plan.
> >
> > Hi:  No problem, Andrew.  They destroy, and fix, and support is available
> > through volunteers.  The malicious destruction isn't a big problem, I
> > don't think.  Could be wrong, but at the same time, I don't think there's
> > a realistic solution that would lend itself to this issue.  We'll just
> > have to deal with it, and make sure the schools have support available.
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Poe
> > Reno, NV
> > http://www.studioforrecording.org/
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/
> > http://renotahoe.pm.org/
>
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