From jacoby.david at gmail.com  Mon May  5 11:13:27 2014
From: jacoby.david at gmail.com (Dave Jacoby)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] Since we're talking JSON and comparative languages
Message-ID: <CAGbe8xqLvgm8tN5piQPVwxeDQ56JsBDPNi85i8ST7RX+98keeA@mail.gmail.com>

Celogeek compares JSON parsing between Perl, Python and Ruby.

http://blog.celogeek.com/201405/556/simple-json-and-mongo-speed-test-between-perl-ruby-and-python/

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From jacoby.david at gmail.com  Tue May  6 10:47:46 2014
From: jacoby.david at gmail.com (Dave Jacoby)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 13:47:46 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] reading JSON with different programming languages
In-Reply-To: <535EB02C.8070502@purdue.edu>
References: <24079.1397586627@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>
	<535E9177.2040703@csociety.org> <535EB02C.8070502@purdue.edu>
Message-ID: <CAGbe8xpX+jEtWKcsL64pevRA0fbN6ZrOjvvqFU9MsLPDqvcNKQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you try to do cryptography without using pre-written libraries, you're
going to forget something and it'll be a mess. If you do CGI programming in
Perl and don't use CGI, there's going to be a hole and you're doing it
wrong. While in Javascript, var object = eval( '(' + json + ')' ) works, it
is suggested you use JSON.parse() or some other parser because of the
potential for Bobby Tables style attacks.

So, yeah, I say use libraries, and I'm using libraries.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Joe Kline <gizmo at purdue.edu> wrote:

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> Are we to write our own JSON parsers, or can we use the languages JSON
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> Just asking since I wasn't at the meeting and such.
>
> Thanks,
>
> joe
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From mark at ecn.purdue.edu  Sun May 11 17:36:42 2014
From: mark at ecn.purdue.edu (Mark Senn)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 20:36:42 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] reading JSON with different programming languages
In-Reply-To: <24079.1397586627@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>
References: <24079.1397586627@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>
Message-ID: <14740.1399855002@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>

Mark Senn <mark at purdue.edu> wrote on 2014-04-15 at 18:30:27 GMT
|  Derrick Kearney is going to prepare some JSON and the following people
|  will talk and/or write about how they read it with the following
|  programming languages before or at the Purdue Perl Mongers meeting on
|  May 20, 2014.  Send email to markiest at purdue.edu (remove "iest" from
|  the email address) with any corrections or additions to the below list.
|  
|  LANGUAGE       WHO
|  Mathematica    Mark Senn
|  Perl           Dave Jacoby
|  PHP            Chris Orr
|  pro            Mark Senn
|  Python         Joe Kline
|  Ruby           Rick Westerman
|  
|  Mark Senn, Systems Programmer,
|  Engineering Computer Network, Purdue University

Thanks to Derrick for preparing the JSON challenge problem.

Originally I said I'd do this in Mathematica.  Mathematica is the
combination of a programming language and a graphical user interface
(GUI).  Wolfram Research is coming out with a new version of the
programming language separately from the GUI ---it is called "Wolfram".
It has lots of cool new stuff including "Associations" and "DataSets"
that look likke they may be able to elegantly do the challenge problem.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell the documentation for it is not
quite ready yet.  I sent a note to Wolfram Research asking for a clue
but if I don't get one I don't plan to pursue doing this in
Mathematica---my solution wouldn't be pretty.

Pro is essentially an extensible macro processor written in Perl 5.
Since the problem is mostly data manipulation and not much only
reading data I don't plan to do this.  It wouldn't add much value
to the Perl 5 solution.

I'm working on a Perl 6 solution.  I don't see any documentation on
the web for how to delete a hash element so that part may not be pretty.

The new language assignment list

LANGUAGE       WHO
Perl 5         Dave Jacoby
Perl 6         Mark Senn
PHP            Chris Orr
pro            Mark Senn
Python         Joe Kline
Ruby           Rick Westerman
Wolfram        Mark Senn (waiting on Wolfram Research for good
               Associaton and DataSet documentation)

Mark Senn, Systems Programmer, Engineering Computer Network, Purdue University

From bradley.d.andersen at gmail.com  Wed May 14 15:57:44 2014
From: bradley.d.andersen at gmail.com (Bradley Andersen)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 18:57:44 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] yapc::na 2014
Message-ID: <CAN+Wnj3AabF_Fho47wPAbPs3ui-+SPh8WoTCPNRTNA7SO1qQgQ@mail.gmail.com>

anyone know what is going on with yapc::na this year?

the website looks a skeleton, and barely works (as one example, try to edit
your profile info without manually typing in the correct link).  no updates
in 2.5 months, no schedule, etc.

last year the organization was great.  this year it almost looks like the
organizer gave up and didn't tell anyone.

?
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From bradley.d.andersen at gmail.com  Thu May 15 04:59:25 2014
From: bradley.d.andersen at gmail.com (Bradley Andersen)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 07:59:25 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] yapc::na 2014
In-Reply-To: <CAN+Wnj3AabF_Fho47wPAbPs3ui-+SPh8WoTCPNRTNA7SO1qQgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN+Wnj3AabF_Fho47wPAbPs3ui-+SPh8WoTCPNRTNA7SO1qQgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN+Wnj0icZTh5XAMqe0b6HTcf40wKuKhxi+YKcTiNZKPyyvpTg@mail.gmail.com>

it looks like someone noticed the profile issue, because now the link seems
to work.

i have reached out to the organizers to see if they need any help, and to
see if i might help.

turning complaints into action!

:)

/bda




On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Bradley Andersen <
bradley.d.andersen at gmail.com> wrote:

> anyone know what is going on with yapc::na this year?
>
> the website looks a skeleton, and barely works (as one example, try to
> edit your profile info without manually typing in the correct link).  no
> updates in 2.5 months, no schedule, etc.
>
> last year the organization was great.  this year it almost looks like the
> organizer gave up and didn't tell anyone.
>
> ?
>
>
>
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From gizmo at purdue.edu  Thu May 15 05:39:33 2014
From: gizmo at purdue.edu (Joe Kline)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:39:33 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] yapc::na 2014
In-Reply-To: <CAN+Wnj3AabF_Fho47wPAbPs3ui-+SPh8WoTCPNRTNA7SO1qQgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN+Wnj3AabF_Fho47wPAbPs3ui-+SPh8WoTCPNRTNA7SO1qQgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5374B585.4010905@purdue.edu>

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On 05/14/2014 06:57 PM, Bradley Andersen wrote:
> anyone know what is going on with yapc::na this year?
> 
> the website looks a skeleton, and barely works (as one example, try
> to edit your profile info without manually typing in the correct
> link).  no updates in 2.5 months, no schedule, etc.
> 
> last year the organization was great.  this year it almost looks
> like the organizer gave up and didn't tell anyone.
> 

I know that they sort of split the roles up a bit.

I'm not sure if there is any one person in charge of the web site or
not. I know that has been a bit of sore spot for some. Mostly the code
used to run it (ACT, I think( and the shared database of registrants.
Many Perl conferences/workshops use the same software so you don't
have to keep a bunch of different profiles.

joe
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From jacoby.david at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:30:02 2014
From: jacoby.david at gmail.com (Dave Jacoby)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 22:30:02 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] perldelta talk at Chicago PM
Message-ID: <CAGbe8xogjz87JDfb-GrNyMz6DrFKC-Jk807-2Dsd3p=+kz7TSQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/183534582/?a=me2_grp&rv=me2

I like this idea. Don't know if we could drag someone down, but we could
easily cover this.

-- 
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From mark at ecn.purdue.edu  Fri May 16 20:30:58 2014
From: mark at ecn.purdue.edu (Mark Senn)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 23:30:58 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] perldelta talk at Chicago PM
In-Reply-To: <CAGbe8xogjz87JDfb-GrNyMz6DrFKC-Jk807-2Dsd3p=+kz7TSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGbe8xogjz87JDfb-GrNyMz6DrFKC-Jk807-2Dsd3p=+kz7TSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13334.1400297458@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>

Dave Jacoby <jacoby.david at gmail.com> wrote on 2014-05-17 at 02:30:02 GMT:
|  http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/183534582/?a=me2_grp&rv=me2

I recommend extending it to cover Perl 6.  I can do that part of the
presentation if you want---just let me know the schedule.    -mark

From jacoby.david at gmail.com  Mon May 19 04:59:41 2014
From: jacoby.david at gmail.com (jacoby.david at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 04:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Purdue-pm] REMINDER: Purdue Perl Mongers meets TOMORROW!
Message-ID: <5379f22d.2a67320a.59a1.77ff@mx.google.com>

Greetings!

This is an automated message to announce that Purdue Perl Mongers
will meet TOMORROW at 11:30am in WSLR 116.

Generally, we discuss computing, dynamic languages, Purdue and the
overlap of those three (plus whatever else comes up) until Noon,
then have one or more more formal presentations. We don't always
discuss Perl -- we have had presentations on Python, Javascript,
HTML4, Selenium, and many other topics -- so if you are not an
experienced Perl user, there's still a place for you.

Check our Twitter feed (@purduepm), our Google+ Community
(https://plus.google.com/communities/100780979348959606696)
or our web page (http://pm.purdue.org) for more information.



From mark at purdue.edu  Mon May 19 18:44:05 2014
From: mark at purdue.edu (Mark Senn)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 21:44:05 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] JSON challenge problem: Perl 6 solution
Message-ID: <16532.1400550245@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>

The Perl 6 JSON software is not ready for production in my opinion.
I don't plan to discuss this solution tomorrow at the meeting.

There isn't any documentation for Perl 6's JSON::Tiny as for as I know.
NULL values aren't handled correctly and I cheated when changing
"value5" to "value4".

See the "json.p6" Perl 6 program or the "output" file for more information.

-mark

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From mark at purdue.edu  Mon May 19 18:51:08 2014
From: mark at purdue.edu (Mark Senn)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 21:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] sorry, forgot to state this in last message
Message-ID: <17179.1400550668@pier.ecn.purdue.edu>

I left inserting code to check for errors
as an exercise for the reader.    -mark

From gizmo at purdue.edu  Wed May 21 05:55:13 2014
From: gizmo at purdue.edu (Joe Kline)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:55:13 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] programming collective intelligence challenge
Message-ID: <537CA231.3050002@purdue.edu>

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There is a github repo with the examples

https://github.com/cataska/programming-collective-intelligence-code

I don't think the pdf that is available for free download is "legal". I
didn't find anything at oreilly or the author's web site about there
being a free download.

On the plus side since I own the print version I was able to get the
digital versions for $5.


Derrick, I can excerpt the appropriate text out and pass that along for
the challenge if you like. Could save you some typing. :-)

Looks pages 7-18 are the relevant ones.

joe
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From gizmo at purdue.edu  Wed May 21 06:08:26 2014
From: gizmo at purdue.edu (Joe Kline)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:08:26 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] programming collective intelligence challenge
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Here's the relevant text and the json file.

I'll let Derrick outline the challenge parameters.

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From gizmo at purdue.edu  Wed May 21 07:49:35 2014
From: gizmo at purdue.edu (Joe Kline)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:49:35 -0400
Subject: [Purdue-pm] programming collective intelligence challenge
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On 05/21/2014 09:27 AM, Dave Jacoby wrote:
> On 5/21/2014 8:55 AM, Joe Kline wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think the pdf that is available for free download is
>> "legal". I
> 
> If this is the book, it's available through the campus subscription
> to Safari.
> 
> http://proquestcombo.safaribooksonline.com/book/web-development/9780596529321
>
> 
> 
> 

Yep, that's the book.

joe
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